[WikiEducator] HYN 2009
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[WikiEducator] Re: Building a sustainable WE OER Textbook initiative
Hello Wayne, As I mentioned to Maria, the presentation on Connections was the first I attended. It was short (I made a post about it: http://beespace.net/oer-at-stoa/) and I have not had the opportunity to test the platform to see how it works myself so have no experience in that domain. I was attracted though by the apparent facility of combining different contributed bits and pieces to create your own, something which seems to be more difficult in the wiki, where you create all from scratch and it remains (in my limited view) a bit static. WikiEducator is founded on the wiki-model of peer collaboration whereas Connexions' processes are more akin to the producer-consumer model of OER content development. Both approaches have their respective advantages and disadvantages. Why do you mean by peer as opposed to producer-consumer and what would be the advantages and disadvantages of each, as you see it? Warm regards, Bee -- Barbara Dieu http://barbaradieu.com http://beespace.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Building a sustainable WE OER Textbook initiative
Hi Bee, Responses in text below. On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 16:42 -0200, Barbara Dieu wrote: I was attracted though by the apparent facility of combining different contributed bits and pieces to create your own, something which seems to be more difficult in the wiki, where you create all from scratch and it remains (in my limited view) a bit static. Technically the collection feature in WikiEducator enables users to reuse existing collections and/or recreate customised collections. Also, I think that there are considerable opportunities for us to improve reusability through design. For example, identifying the educational elements with a high probability for customisation (eg activities) as discrete objects in the materials, for instance pedagogical templates or individual subsections. In this way we can reduce the time and effort required for reuse and customisation. With this model -- different teachers can then easily build customised collections for their teaching. I do agree that we will need to refine the user interface for making it easier to build customised collections in WE. This is something I'd be keen for us to focus on in the new year. So any thoughts on how we can improve the ability to customise and reuse resources is most welcome. We can build these recommendations into the technical development specifications. If all goes well -- we should be able to raise the funding necessary for these refinements :-). WikiEducator is founded on the wiki-model of peer collaboration whereas Connexions' processes are more akin to the producer-consumer model of OER content development. Both approaches have their respective advantages and disadvantages. Why do you mean by peer as opposed to producer-consumer and what would be the advantages and disadvantages of each, as you see it? Towards the end of 2007, Ken Udas from the World Campus at PSU, Chris Geith from MSU Global and myself had a bash at distinguishing these approaches: http://www.wikieducator.org/Internationalising_online_programs/OER_producer-consumer_and_co-production_models I think the table attempting to compare these approaches needs some refinement and improvement ;-) -- but is nonetheless is a starting point to think about these differences. I think that the mass-collaboration approach which underpins peer-production models has greater potential for leveraging the benefits of self-organising OER systems (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organization ) -- What's interesting about self-organising systems is the fact that its difficult to predict future benefits -- they emerge over time. Also, self-organising systems are also more responsive and can adapt more easily to changing needs. I also have a strong sense that the emerging approaches will be more aligned with the principles of mass-customisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_customization ) as opposed to the more traditional model of mass-standardisation we have become accustomed to in the classical academic publishing model. In reality -- its still very early days in the world of mass collaboration and peer-production OER models in education. There is still lots that we need to learn. That's what I find so exciting with projects like WikiEducator -- we're making the future happen! Cheers Wayne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Building a sustainable WE OER Textbook initiative
Thanks for the links and explanation...for the time being, I am experimenting...and will share with you my findings and impressions. That's what I find so exciting with projects like WikiEducator -- we're making the future happen! So do I. A toast to 2009 and the years to come! May new forms of peer-production and collaboration emerge! Warm regards and off to the coast to spend New Year by the sea with my feet in the water as required by our local mores and lores :-) Check last year's pic http://flickr.com/photos/bee/340747926/ Bee -- Barbara Dieu http://barbaradieu.com http://beespace.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Building a sustainable WE OER Textbook initiative
Hi Leigh, I'm just catching up on emails, posts, etc. I am interested in your post, as it relates to reaching the 'last mile of development'. You outline a very workable hybrid of technology and smart-thinking to achieve a specific objective. These insights are very valuable, as local ingenuity coupled with necessity and use of available resources and technologies seems to deal with many of the last-mile problems that often plague development projects. What would you call this? I think it would be cool to develop a page of these types of locally devised solutions what do you think? - Randy On Dec 5, 11:03 pm, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com wrote: This thread is about your text book proposal right? So, do you want me to explain this in practical terms relating to text books? Or do you want me to post a manifesto? On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Wayne wmackint...@col.org wrote: Hi Leigh In practical terms -- can you describe the teaching-learning system you envisage in terms of the functions of teaching and elements of the system. I'm not sure that I understand what you are talking about. Cheers Wayne On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 14:21 +1100, Leigh Blackall wrote: I'm not convinced we are pioneers at all. Illich is significant to me not for hi Deschooling Society, but for his vision of learning webs. As he describes it (in chapter 6 I think), Bolivia was rolling out OER in the form of television. The cost of television back then meant that Bolivia could afford 1 tv per 5000 Bolivians. Illich proposed a networked communication through audio cassette recordings. At the time, he proposed that Bolivia could afford 1 cassette recorder per 5 Bolivians with enough money left over to set up a postal service to facilitate the exchange of audio recordings being sent in by farmers and kids. He was talking about audio blogging, where today the cost of achieving what Illich envisioned is greatly reduced for us in the wealthy economies, but still impossible for your average Bolivian I guess. Even with OLPCs the difficulty of using a cassette recorder and postal service compared to an OLPC is laughable. Illich was talking about networked learning, without the middle man. Our OER efforts, and especially the production of text books with learning design interwoven is more broadcast, middle man OER like Bolivia's TV idea, distance learning, and to some extent the OLPCs.. nothing new at all. The only thing new in it is the copyright and the technology.. and seeing your historical reference predates modern history Wayne, even our new approach to copyright is nothing new. Peter Rawsthorne and James Neill have been talking about student generated content initiaties on Wikieducator for quite some time, and in many regards this is similar to networked learning accept that it tends to focus on a demographic we call students, that is typically made up in crude class systems like K12 and everything in between - leaving out the contributions that someone outside that class might have to offer - such as traditional, subsistance, local even mystical. I'd hazard a guess that the funding is easily geared towards text books. They are tangible and have established processes and protocols. But this doesn't make it a good idea. A text book with learning designed in it, over powers so much of what might be otherwise possible. A straight text with a range of culturally appropriate learning design held seperately would be far more scalable and versatile. Especially with strong learning networks around each text. Strong networks like in Wikibooks and blogs for example, or any number of offline networks Better would be a straight text with a learning network to go with it. In the poorer countries this is obviously not through the Internet and computers, but the ideas and models we have through the Internet could inform new approaches to radio, newspaper, telephone, and postal services.. even distance learning. On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Wayne wmackint...@col.org wrote: Hi Leigh On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 08:57 +1300, Leigh Blackall wrote: Illich's Learning Webs idea for Bolivia, cited in his book Deschooling Society - predating ODL, ignoring instructional design, and predicting post industrial society enabled by networked communications. Illich was interested in networked communications empowering subsistance living. Illich's Deschooling Society is a seminal text and is a highly recommended read for those dabbling in the future of OER. On a minor historical technicality ;-) Illich's Deschooling Society did not predate the practice, research and publication in the field of DE/ODL. I believe Deschooling Society was published in 1971. Their are published references on DE dating back to 1728. However mainstream DE research as a field of research endeavour started appearing in the
[WikiEducator] Re: Building a sustainable WE OER Textbook initiative
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 19:52 -0500, Maria Droujkova wrote: In the spirit of refinement, where would learners as co-creators of content fit? At a first glance, it seems to belong in the co-production models, but maybe it's a separate dimension altogether. possibilities: producer-consumer-learner vs. co-production-learning vs. co-production together with learners, as an integral part of the learning process. Hi Maria --- that's a very good question. In WikiEducator, two examples come to mind where learners are actively engaged in co-producing learning materials. Apology for the long-winded response -- but this is a fascinating discussion. 1) Biology in elementary schools is a project at St Michael's College where student teachers produce OER lessons (http://www.wikieducator.org/Biology_in_elementary_schools) and are graded on their work as part of the course; 2) Ruth Lawson, a lecturer at Otago Polytechnic in New Zealand is developing learning activities on WikiEducator based on her OER text on the Anatomy and Physiology of Animals on Wikibooks (see: http://www.wikieducator.org/The_Anatomy_and_Physiology_of_Animals). Ruth reports that students assist in refening and improving the activities on WikiEducator. So one classification option under the co-production model could be based on two points of a continuum: a) OERs produced solely by learners, and b) OER produced solely by teachers The middle ground of this continuum would represent OER co-produced by teachers and learners. Thinking out loud here -- do we need a discrete category for learner generated OER? Or does the co-production model subsume the continuum of learner engagement as co-producers. Another interesting angle in the co-production model is the idea that learners become teachers, and teachers become learners. I think there is wisdom in the old adage that if you want to learn something --- teach it. Also teachers (or subject matter experts) developing content in the wiki become learners in the sense that through collaboration they are exposed to experiential learning with reference to learning design, multimedia design and visual design. --- clearly our typology and our evolving classification framework needs some refinement :-). Thanks for your reflections. Cheers Wayne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
