[WikiEducator] Re: Building a sustainable WE OER Textbook initiative

2009-01-05 Thread valerie

Hi Derek

I think one significant feature of Connexions is the captured in the
quote you quoted
 open-source, online education system. It cuts out the
 textbook

Implicitly, the OERs a big - full courses, textbook replacements, open
textbooks. That's fine, and for many instructors and institutions this
is a huge benefit.

I started working with OERs in 2000 when the current thinking was the
smaller, the better - more flexibility, more opportunity for reuse
and customized collection and redistribution. Eventually, it became
clear that some OER adopters needed bigger, more complete lessons and
even whole courses - but not everyone.

Like buying a computers - some folks just want to purchase something
that works to enable/support what they want to do. Others want/need
various level of customization to make it just right and are
prepared to put in the time and money to get this.

The OER space covers a vast spectrum of creators and users
(instructors and learners). There is plenty of opportunity for
everyone to be successful. Finding your way around is somewhat
confusing as the tools are not well established, yet. Are you looking
for the plug-and-play version? Or are you prepared to shop around and
fiddle with the parts until it is just the way you want it?

This is why I think Maria's work is so interesting. They may be onto
providing some of the tools that will significantly improve locating
(and using) OERs. This is very exciting and greatly needed IMHO.

It's all here somewhere. Finding it is the first challenge. :o)

..Valerie


On Jan 2, 5:12 am, Derek Chirnside derek.chirns...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Dabbling only in this discussion: at this stage.

 I quote:
 About this talk

 Rice University professor Richard Baraniuk explains the vision behind
 Connexions, his open-source, online education system. It cuts out the
 textbook, allowing teachers to share and modify course materials freely,
 anywhere in the world.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups WikiEducator group.
To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org
To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator
To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



[WikiEducator] Re: Math gurus: Help needed :-)

2009-01-05 Thread Gladys Gahona

Maria,
I recently visited your website http://www.naturalmath.com where I
found this lovely page: http://www.naturalmath.com/multpics/index.php

I guess I've got your idea concerning to link math concepts to nature
and culture.
Please see http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A/Angle and post your
comments.

For more info about the aims of the project, please visit
http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss

By the way, if you have some free time, please join the project. I am
certain you have excellent ideas.
Warm wishes
Gladys Gahona
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808

On 31 dic 2008, 08:39, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like to ask about the goals of this endeavor, just to clarify style and
 content needs. I use Wolfram's MathWorld for my math dictionary. It's
 imperfect because it's not pedagogically sound: the definitions don't have
 newbie-friendly versions or enough connections to other areas of human life.
 I love 3d animations, pictures, and the level of detail, though.

 My dream online math dictionary has multiple levels of definitions,
 pedagogical supports for beginners such as metaphors and rich illustrations,
 and web as a platform tools for taking the dictionary with you, so to
 speak, as you browse other pages. The goal would be to help math newbies,
 especially kids, to mathematize their usual web activities, bringing more
 cool math into whatever they do. As you can see, dictionary contents depend
 on goals...

 Cheers,
 MariaD

 On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Wayne wmackint...@col.org wrote:
   Hi everyone,

  This is an invitation to all Math educators in WikiEducator

  Gladys Gahona (http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808) has started
  developing a Math Glossary in WikiEducator.

  See:  http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A

  This is an open invitation to all WikiEducators with a passion for Math to
  assist Gladys in developing this resource.

  Follow the example from this page:

 http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A

  If you have a free moment --- feel free to add your favourite definition to
  the glossary :-)

  Cheers
  Wayne
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups WikiEducator group.
To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org
To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator
To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



[WikiEducator] Re: Math gurus: Help needed :-)

2009-01-05 Thread Gladys Gahona

Hi Leigh,

These are the kind of documentaries I adore.

This one deserves the design of a special Math resource, lets see if
some of the WE Math Gurus takes the initiative.

Cheers

Gladys Gahona
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808

On 4 ene, 21:38, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hope you add this to the Math's text:

 the drama and humour of
 numbershttp://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/01/drama-and-humour-of-numbers.html

 By Bill Kerr
 The Story of 
 1http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Story-Of-One-Terry-Jones-BBC-numbe...(60
 minutes)

 I just saw this excellent TV show about the history of numbers (ABC
 reviewhttp://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/netw/200901/programs/ZY8042A001D101200...)
 and, for joy, it's available on the internet too :-)

 Some Australian aboriginal tribes did not have a number system, just one and
 many. Arithmetic evolved in cities which had more complexity which required
 calculations. The first writing was with numbers.

 3000 BC: The Egyptians conceived of 1 million. Also they invented the cubit,
 a unit of measurement, required for the buildings they constructed

 Pythagoras invented odd and even numbers, things such as magic triangles (1,
 2, 3, 4) and explored the relationship between music and the size of
 containers (the music of the spheres). But his dogmatic idealism about
 number led to tragedy. One of his disciples discovered irrational numbers
 and was drowned.

 The Romans murdered Archimedes and then imposed their crummy numerals onto
 the world. They were so useless for doing calculations that the abacus was
 used instead.

 Our decimal system and most notably the number zero wasn't thought of until
 500 AD by someone in India. From there it was passed onto the Arabic Muslim
 world. Then the decimal system was brought to Europe by Fibonacci.

 There ensued a struggle between the Roman numerals and the decimals system
 which lasted for hundreds of years. Eventually the decimal system won out
 because of the need for capitalism to calculate compound interest
 accurately.

 Finally, Liebnitz invented the binary system but we had to wait another 200
 years for the computer

 This video is very enlightening and funny being narrated by Terry Jones of
 Monty Python fame. The simulated battles between our modern sprightly
 numbers and clunky Roman numerals are fabulous.



 On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Gladys,

  Yes, you're right.

  I think that it's a good idea for this stage in our development.

  In future, it might be more appropriate to have it linked from the main
  content pagebut to a certain degree, we are in the process of
  'educating' folks within, new, and visiting our community.

  - Randy

  On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Gladys Gahona gladysgah...@gmail.comwrote:

  I think one way to quickly find the WikiEducator Glossary (
 http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator/Glossary)   is inserting a
  link in the navigation side bar, so it will be permanently reachable
  for everyone.
  HNY
  Gladys Gahona
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808

  --
  
  Randy Fisher
  Change/Transition Management; Performance, Collaboration  Engagement;
  Sustainable Communities  Organizations

  + 1 604.684.2275
  wikira...@gmail.com

 http://www.wikieducator.org- Member, WikiEducator Community Council
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher

  * Can You Do the Wiki-Wiki?http://www.wikieducator.org/Wiki_Wiki

  Skype: wikirandy

 --
 --
 Leigh Blackall
 +64(0)21736539
 skype - leigh_blackall
 SL - Leroy 
 Goalposthttp://learnonline.wordpress.comhttp://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups WikiEducator group.
To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org
To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator
To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



[WikiEducator] Re: Math gurus: Help needed :-)

2009-01-05 Thread Maria Droujkova
Can we mass-populate this from an existing math dictionary? If we are
creating it from scratch, what are we doing that distinguishes it from all
other math dictionaries created until now? If it's just the format, we can
get a robot to re-format stuff for us, I bet. Failing that, kids ::evil
grin::

We played a game with kids called definition war devoted to creating
definitions. Kids take turns creating definitions and then objecting (they
love yelling Objection! like Ace Attorney) and then fixing definitions,
etc. It takes about half an hour to make a good definition.

For my part, I am yet to see a good definition of multiplication in any
dictionary. By good I mean both pedagogically sound and mathematically
rigorous, and including enough models of multiplication at least to cover
all major number types. Repeated addition kinda fails for Pi*e

For Angle, I rather like this dictionary's definition:
http://www.teachers.ash.org.au/jeather/maths/dictionary.html
It has an applet, a chart, and a bright frame around it all. How can we
improve on it? We can use this idea of angles in nature and culture - a
collection, open for people's additions... That's beyond a plain
dictionary though!

I can imagine a format with a convergent and a divergent part. The
convergent part is a short definition people can refine and improve. The
divergent part, potentially infinite, is where everybody adds their
pictures, poetry, movies and what not, illustrating the definition.
Something like my MultArt, for each topic. A good model for that, which is a
lot of fun, is a wiki called TV Tropes:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage It has a trope
description, and then an open collection of examples.

What do you think?

MariaD

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Gladys Gahona gladysgah...@gmail.comwrote:


 Maria,
 I recently visited your website http://www.naturalmath.com where I
 found this lovely page: http://www.naturalmath.com/multpics/index.php

 I guess I've got your idea concerning to link math concepts to nature
 and culture.
 Please see http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A/Angle and post your
 comments.

 For more info about the aims of the project, please visit
 http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss

 By the way, if you have some free time, please join the project. I am
 certain you have excellent ideas.
 Warm wishes
 Gladys Gahona
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808

 On 31 dic 2008, 08:39, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd like to ask about the goals of this endeavor, just to clarify style
 and
  content needs. I use Wolfram's MathWorld for my math dictionary. It's
  imperfect because it's not pedagogically sound: the definitions don't
 have
  newbie-friendly versions or enough connections to other areas of human
 life.
  I love 3d animations, pictures, and the level of detail, though.
 
  My dream online math dictionary has multiple levels of definitions,
  pedagogical supports for beginners such as metaphors and rich
 illustrations,
  and web as a platform tools for taking the dictionary with you, so to
  speak, as you browse other pages. The goal would be to help math newbies,
  especially kids, to mathematize their usual web activities, bringing
 more
  cool math into whatever they do. As you can see, dictionary contents
 depend
  on goals...
 
  Cheers,
  MariaD
 
  On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Wayne wmackint...@col.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
 
   This is an invitation to all Math educators in WikiEducator
 
   Gladys Gahona (http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808) has started
   developing a Math Glossary in WikiEducator.
 
   See:  http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A
 
   This is an open invitation to all WikiEducators with a passion for Math
 to
   assist Gladys in developing this resource.
 
   Follow the example from this page:
 
  http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A
 
   If you have a free moment --- feel free to add your favourite
 definition to
   the glossary :-)
 
   Cheers
   Wayne



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups WikiEducator group.
To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org
To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator
To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



[WikiEducator] Re: Math gurus: Help needed :-)

2009-01-05 Thread Leigh Blackall
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Maths

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can we mass-populate this from an existing math dictionary? If we are
 creating it from scratch, what are we doing that distinguishes it from all
 other math dictionaries created until now? If it's just the format, we can
 get a robot to re-format stuff for us, I bet. Failing that, kids ::evil
 grin::

 We played a game with kids called definition war devoted to creating
 definitions. Kids take turns creating definitions and then objecting (they
 love yelling Objection! like Ace Attorney) and then fixing definitions,
 etc. It takes about half an hour to make a good definition.

 For my part, I am yet to see a good definition of multiplication in any
 dictionary. By good I mean both pedagogically sound and mathematically
 rigorous, and including enough models of multiplication at least to cover
 all major number types. Repeated addition kinda fails for Pi*e

 For Angle, I rather like this dictionary's definition:
 http://www.teachers.ash.org.au/jeather/maths/dictionary.html
 It has an applet, a chart, and a bright frame around it all. How can we
 improve on it? We can use this idea of angles in nature and culture - a
 collection, open for people's additions... That's beyond a plain
 dictionary though!

 I can imagine a format with a convergent and a divergent part. The
 convergent part is a short definition people can refine and improve. The
 divergent part, potentially infinite, is where everybody adds their
 pictures, poetry, movies and what not, illustrating the definition.
 Something like my MultArt, for each topic. A good model for that, which is a
 lot of fun, is a wiki called TV Tropes:
 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage It has a trope
 description, and then an open collection of examples.

 What do you think?

 MariaD


 On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Gladys Gahona gladysgah...@gmail.comwrote:


 Maria,
 I recently visited your website http://www.naturalmath.com where I
 found this lovely page: http://www.naturalmath.com/multpics/index.php

 I guess I've got your idea concerning to link math concepts to nature
 and culture.
 Please see http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A/Angle and post your
 comments.

 For more info about the aims of the project, please visit
 http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss

 By the way, if you have some free time, please join the project. I am
 certain you have excellent ideas.
 Warm wishes
 Gladys Gahona
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808

 On 31 dic 2008, 08:39, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd like to ask about the goals of this endeavor, just to clarify style
 and
  content needs. I use Wolfram's MathWorld for my math dictionary. It's
  imperfect because it's not pedagogically sound: the definitions don't
 have
  newbie-friendly versions or enough connections to other areas of human
 life.
  I love 3d animations, pictures, and the level of detail, though.
 
  My dream online math dictionary has multiple levels of definitions,
  pedagogical supports for beginners such as metaphors and rich
 illustrations,
  and web as a platform tools for taking the dictionary with you, so to
  speak, as you browse other pages. The goal would be to help math
 newbies,
  especially kids, to mathematize their usual web activities, bringing
 more
  cool math into whatever they do. As you can see, dictionary contents
 depend
  on goals...
 
  Cheers,
  MariaD
 
  On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Wayne wmackint...@col.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
 
   This is an invitation to all Math educators in WikiEducator
 
   Gladys Gahona (http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808) has
 started
   developing a Math Glossary in WikiEducator.
 
   See:  http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A
 
   This is an open invitation to all WikiEducators with a passion for
 Math to
   assist Gladys in developing this resource.
 
   Follow the example from this page:
 
  http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A
 
   If you have a free moment --- feel free to add your favourite
 definition to
   the glossary :-)
 
   Cheers
   Wayne



 



-- 
--
Leigh Blackall
+64(0)21736539
skype - leigh_blackall
SL - Leroy Goalpost
http://learnonline.wordpress.com
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups WikiEducator group.
To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org
To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator
To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



[WikiEducator] Re: Math gurus: Help needed :-)

2009-01-05 Thread Gladys Gahona

Maria,

The current math glossary we are developing has been concibed to be a
resource addressing to secondary and terciary
level (13 to 18 yr) students.

In this stage of developing, We have already defined the layout,
consisting of :

- Definition (s)
- Supplementary definition (wikipedia)
- Examples
- External Links

As the amount of defined terms grow, we easily will be able to cross-
refence them.

We have just started to fill in some definitions and extending
invitations to the WE community to join the project.
Anyone can add their favorite definitons, this means we may have
several definitions for each item.

So far the glossary contains mostly plain text. I agree Well-designed
animations (better if interactive) may help students learn faster and
easier. The good news are we can put all kind of media for
exemplificating each term. e.g. still images, animated gifs, flash
animations, interactive flash animations, collaborative videos
(kaltura), audio, etc.

The limit is our imagination and the availability of free media we can
cater from the web or from the creativity of volunteer graphic/flash
designers. I am certain You have and idea on how expensive a simple
pedagogical animation could be for each term definition (money 
time). For example, please see http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A/Algebra.
I authored the still image, and I easily could convert it to an
animated gif, or even more... make a flash animation  (not
interactive). But it would take time and we are talking about only for
one picture.

We still don't have a math glossary for grades (K-6). Maybe you can
lead the WE project, which will have its appropiate layout. I gladly
could assist you if you decide to take the initiative. Don't worry
about colors, we can make a colorfull and interactive resource for the
kids. The divergent part of your vision of math glossary, fits
perfectly with the wiki platform.

In any case, we will need a growing collection of media (I love flash
interactive animations), and a huge band of WikiEducators commited
with the projects. They absolutely will give added value to any
resource we develop for WE.

We also count with a geek team in WE, who can solve all the
technical issues we may face on the way to develop a well
diferenciated and pedagogical resource for both levels. (a new
glossary for kids and the existing one).

Leigh has linked the math books collection alocated in Wikibooks. I
personally like the Wikibook site,  I am linking many glossary terms
to a wikibook page. I think we can take advantage of the already
developed contents in order to not being redundant. Wiktionary offers
its own definitions but from a different scope, so I think a Math
Glossary is still a
good and helpfull resource for WE.

What do you think?

Cheers,
Gladys Gahona
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808

Note: I apologize in advance for any english grammar mistake. I am on
my way to improve my english :-).

On 5 ene, 18:00, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can we mass-populate this from an existing math dictionary? If we are
 creating it from scratch, what are we doing that distinguishes it from all
 other math dictionaries created until now? If it's just the format, we can
 get a robot to re-format stuff for us, I bet. Failing that, kids ::evil
 grin::

 We played a game with kids called definition war devoted to creating
 definitions. Kids take turns creating definitions and then objecting (they
 love yelling Objection! like Ace Attorney) and then fixing definitions,
 etc. It takes about half an hour to make a good definition.

 For my part, I am yet to see a good definition of multiplication in any
 dictionary. By good I mean both pedagogically sound and mathematically
 rigorous, and including enough models of multiplication at least to cover
 all major number types. Repeated addition kinda fails for Pi*e

 For Angle, I rather like this dictionary's 
 definition:http://www.teachers.ash.org.au/jeather/maths/dictionary.html
 It has an applet, a chart, and a bright frame around it all. How can we
 improve on it? We can use this idea of angles in nature and culture - a
 collection, open for people's additions... That's beyond a plain
 dictionary though!

 I can imagine a format with a convergent and a divergent part. The
 convergent part is a short definition people can refine and improve. The
 divergent part, potentially infinite, is where everybody adds their
 pictures, poetry, movies and what not, illustrating the definition.
 Something like my MultArt, for each topic. A good model for that, which is a
 lot of fun, is a wiki called TV 
 Tropes:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePageIt has a trope
 description, and then an open collection of examples.

 What do you think?

 MariaD

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups WikiEducator group.
To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org
To visit the