Re: [WikiEducator] Draft agenda for OER university planning meeting posted for comment

[Wayne Mackintosh]

Hi Leo,

Good questions. The purpose of the planning meeting is to identify the
questions we need to be asking and to start developing a high level logic
model for implementation. The diagram on the OER
universitypage
provides an overview of the main components (initatives) that we will
need to consider. Initial answers to your questions (and I'm sure these will
refine over time.)

   - Informal students refer to students who participate in online courses
   as non-credit students -- in other words they have not formerly enrolled for
   a course at any given institution. Therefore, these formal registered
   students may choose or elect to participate in some of the OER courses (due
   to timetable clashes or courses which are not offered by their host
   institution.)
   - We are very serious about designing the OER university concept (a
   virtual collaboration of institutions) to provide credible credentials.
   These will need to map to existing qualifications offered by participating
   institutions.
   - You are right, cross-border articulation of qualifications is complex
   and one of the areas we need to resolve in collaboration with national
   qualifications authorities and credentialising agencies.
   - To be honest, I not sure how credentialisation would work in China (and
   many other countries for that matter) because I'm not an expert in
   international credentialisation -- this is why it is so important for
   representatives from all countries to join in and help with the design and
   development of the logic model for an OER university. We also invite
   national qualifications authorities to join in the planning. So for example,
   I believe that the National Qualification's Authority of Samoa will be
   joining in the meeting remotely from a streamed site.

To cite Professor Jim Taylor from the University of Southern Queensland in
Australia: "*The OER for assessment and credit for students project aims to
create a parallel learning universe to augment and add value to traditional
models through effective collaboration networks."  *

The OER university concept aims to make education more affordable, more
accessible and more efficient through collaboration, OER and the open web.
It is conceivable that we can provide free learning for all students
worldwide with pathways to obtain credible qualifications. This purpose of
the open planning meeting -- to bring together the knowledge and expertise
to achieve these futures.

We look forward to your participation in the meeting.

Members of the list can find more information from the links posted in the
press release:

http://wikieducator.org/Towards_an_OER_university:_Free_learning_for_all_students_worldwide

Cheers
Wayne


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Wong Leo  wrote:

> just registered  my name ,  as i am from china , and working with a college
> in china , wonder a few things ,for oer courses , the applicablilty here in
> china , maybe others have similar questions pls share
>
>- the informal students can it mean by students from a formal
>university ? or have to be totally Adult students ?
>
>
>- if any of international university would like to offer courses in a
>different country , ie a chinese students can get credits or recognized  ,
>what are the difficulities would be ?
>- vice versa , if any of international students would like to get a
>degree or diploma from other university , why would him or her choose on
>line learning except the cost maybe lower ?
>- we have universities who will come to china to give us yearly quality
>assurance , how this can be done online to become more process assessment ?
>- what are the advantages for countries like china india , those
>third-world countries to partipate and voice out ?
>
> sorry for those questions may sound not professtional ,but actually the
> practical questions we face . tks
> 2011/2/1 gene loeb 
>
>> Thanks for the reference. It was helpful in multiple ways. Sorry I work aa
>> bit slower-comes with age, but am receptive to ideas on what to focus on. I
>> am a retired college professor experienced in alternative education programs
>> as well as traditional, observing the ever ongoing new concepts and
>> materials. Sorry to be so long winded.
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the pointer David
>>>
>>> I will add this to the list of resources for the meeting.
>>>
>>> I agree, and suspect that there are many lessons and policy protocol
>>> examples we can remix from the Prior Learning and Assessment Recognition
>>> (PLAR) experiences for OER futures. It is serendipitous that you should
>>> mention this, as we speak Athabasca University is planning an international
>>> comparative study of policy protocols relating to PLAR to identify reuse
>>> potential for the "OER

Re: [WikiEducator] Draft agenda for OER university planning meeting posted for comment

[Wong Leo]

just registered  my name ,  as i am from china , and working with a college
in china , wonder a few things ,for oer courses , the applicablilty here in
china , maybe others have similar questions pls share

   - the informal students can it mean by students from a formal university
   ? or have to be totally Adult students ?


   - if any of international university would like to offer courses in a
   different country , ie a chinese students can get credits or recognized  ,
   what are the difficulities would be ?
   - vice versa , if any of international students would like to get a
   degree or diploma from other university , why would him or her choose on
   line learning except the cost maybe lower ?
   - we have universities who will come to china to give us yearly quality
   assurance , how this can be done online to become more process assessment ?
   - what are the advantages for countries like china india , those
   third-world countries to partipate and voice out ?

sorry for those questions may sound not professtional ,but actually the
practical questions we face . tks
2011/2/1 gene loeb 

> Thanks for the reference. It was helpful in multiple ways. Sorry I work aa
> bit slower-comes with age, but am receptive to ideas on what to focus on. I
> am a retired college professor experienced in alternative education programs
> as well as traditional, observing the ever ongoing new concepts and
> materials. Sorry to be so long winded.
> Gene
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the pointer David
>>
>> I will add this to the list of resources for the meeting.
>>
>> I agree, and suspect that there are many lessons and policy protocol
>> examples we can remix from the Prior Learning and Assessment Recognition
>> (PLAR) experiences for OER futures. It is serendipitous that you should
>> mention this, as we speak Athabasca University is planning an international
>> comparative study of policy protocols relating to PLAR to identify reuse
>> potential for the "OER university" concept.
>>
>> Gut feel tells, me that we have two challenges to overcome -- I don't
>> think that classical PLAR approaches will scale well (for example,
>> assessment of portfolios is time intensive for both learners and assessors.)
>> and I think that we can engineer more cost effective ways of doing this. But
>> its still early days. Lot's of thinking and reflection needed.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:40 PM, David Wiley wrote:
>>
>>> The latest issue of IRRODL is dedicated to Prior Learning Assessments,
>>> and may contain information useful to this discussion.
>>>
>>> http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Wayne Mackintosh
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Hi everyone,
>>> >
>>> > We've posted the draft agenda for the open planning meeting for the OER
>>> for
>>> > assessment and credit for students project.
>>> >
>>> > See:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011
>>> >
>>> > Please post your ideas, suggestions and feedback on the draft agenda on
>>> the
>>> > corresponding talk page:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://wikieducator.org/Talk:OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011
>>> >
>>> > The review team comprising anchor partners and meeting sponsors will
>>> > consider all submissions for the meeting.
>>> >
>>> > Let's build the OER university together.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> > Wayne
>>> >
>>> > Register your  participation in this open planning meeting here:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meetings
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>>> > Director OER Foundation
>>> > Director, International Centre for Open Education,
>>> > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>>> > Founder and elected Community Council Member, Wikieducator
>>> > Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>>> > Skype: WGMNZ1
>>> > Twitter | identi.ca
>>> >
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Mackintosh , Ph.D.
>> Director OER Foundation 
>> Director, International Centre for Open Education,
>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>> Founder and elected Community Council Member, 
>> Wikieducator
>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>> Skype: WGMNZ1
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>>
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Re: [WikiEducator] Draft agenda for OER university planning meeting posted for comment

[gene loeb]

Thanks for the reference. It was helpful in multiple ways. Sorry I work aa
bit slower-comes with age, but am receptive to ideas on what to focus on. I
am a retired college professor experienced in alternative education programs
as well as traditional, observing the ever ongoing new concepts and
materials. Sorry to be so long winded.
Gene

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the pointer David
>
> I will add this to the list of resources for the meeting.
>
> I agree, and suspect that there are many lessons and policy protocol
> examples we can remix from the Prior Learning and Assessment Recognition
> (PLAR) experiences for OER futures. It is serendipitous that you should
> mention this, as we speak Athabasca University is planning an international
> comparative study of policy protocols relating to PLAR to identify reuse
> potential for the "OER university" concept.
>
> Gut feel tells, me that we have two challenges to overcome -- I don't think
> that classical PLAR approaches will scale well (for example, assessment of
> portfolios is time intensive for both learners and assessors.) and I think
> that we can engineer more cost effective ways of doing this. But its still
> early days. Lot's of thinking and reflection needed.
>
> Cheers
> Wayne
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:40 PM, David Wiley wrote:
>
>> The latest issue of IRRODL is dedicated to Prior Learning Assessments,
>> and may contain information useful to this discussion.
>>
>> http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Wayne Mackintosh
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > We've posted the draft agenda for the open planning meeting for the OER
>> for
>> > assessment and credit for students project.
>> >
>> > See:
>> >
>> >
>> http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011
>> >
>> > Please post your ideas, suggestions and feedback on the draft agenda on
>> the
>> > corresponding talk page:
>> >
>> >
>> http://wikieducator.org/Talk:OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011
>> >
>> > The review team comprising anchor partners and meeting sponsors will
>> > consider all submissions for the meeting.
>> >
>> > Let's build the OER university together.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> > Register your  participation in this open planning meeting here:
>> >
>> >
>> http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meetings
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>> > Director OER Foundation
>> > Director, International Centre for Open Education,
>> > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>> > Founder and elected Community Council Member, Wikieducator
>> > Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>> > Skype: WGMNZ1
>> > Twitter | identi.ca
>> >
>> > --
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> > Groups "WikiEducator" group.
>> > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org
>> > To visit the discussion forum:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator
>> > To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com
>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh , Ph.D.
> Director OER Foundation 
> Director, International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Founder and elected Community Council Member, 
> Wikieducator
> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> Skype: WGMNZ1
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Re: [WikiEducator] Draft agenda for OER university planning meeting posted for comment

[Wayne Mackintosh]

Thanks for the pointer David

I will add this to the list of resources for the meeting.

I agree, and suspect that there are many lessons and policy protocol
examples we can remix from the Prior Learning and Assessment Recognition
(PLAR) experiences for OER futures. It is serendipitous that you should
mention this, as we speak Athabasca University is planning an international
comparative study of policy protocols relating to PLAR to identify reuse
potential for the "OER university" concept.

Gut feel tells, me that we have two challenges to overcome -- I don't think
that classical PLAR approaches will scale well (for example, assessment of
portfolios is time intensive for both learners and assessors.) and I think
that we can engineer more cost effective ways of doing this. But its still
early days. Lot's of thinking and reflection needed.

Cheers
Wayne

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:40 PM, David Wiley  wrote:

> The latest issue of IRRODL is dedicated to Prior Learning Assessments,
> and may contain information useful to this discussion.
>
> http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl
>
> David
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Wayne Mackintosh
>  wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We've posted the draft agenda for the open planning meeting for the OER
> for
> > assessment and credit for students project.
> >
> > See:
> >
> >
> http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011
> >
> > Please post your ideas, suggestions and feedback on the draft agenda on
> the
> > corresponding talk page:
> >
> >
> http://wikieducator.org/Talk:OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011
> >
> > The review team comprising anchor partners and meeting sponsors will
> > consider all submissions for the meeting.
> >
> > Let's build the OER university together.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Wayne
> >
> > Register your  participation in this open planning meeting here:
> >
> >
> http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meetings
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> > Director OER Foundation
> > Director, International Centre for Open Education,
> > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> > Founder and elected Community Council Member, Wikieducator
> > Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> > Skype: WGMNZ1
> > Twitter | identi.ca
> >
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>



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Director, International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
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Wikieducator
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Skype: WGMNZ1
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Re: [WikiEducator] Draft agenda for OER university planning meeting posted for comment

[David Wiley]

The latest issue of IRRODL is dedicated to Prior Learning Assessments,
and may contain information useful to this discussion.

http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl

David

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Wayne Mackintosh
 wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We've posted the draft agenda for the open planning meeting for the OER for
> assessment and credit for students project.
>
> See:
>
> http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011
>
> Please post your ideas, suggestions and feedback on the draft agenda on the
> corresponding talk page:
>
> http://wikieducator.org/Talk:OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011
>
> The review team comprising anchor partners and meeting sponsors will
> consider all submissions for the meeting.
>
> Let's build the OER university together.
>
> Cheers
> Wayne
>
> Register your  participation in this open planning meeting here:
>
> http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meetings
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director OER Foundation
> Director, International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Founder and elected Community Council Member, Wikieducator
> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> Skype: WGMNZ1
> Twitter | identi.ca
>
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[WikiEducator] Draft agenda for OER university planning meeting posted for comment

[Wayne Mackintosh]

Hi everyone,

We've posted the draft agenda for the open planning meeting for the OER for
assessment and credit for students
project
.

See:

http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011

Please post your ideas, suggestions and feedback on the draft agenda on the
corresponding talk page:

http://wikieducator.org/Talk:OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meeting_Agenda_-_23_Feb_2011

The review team comprising anchor partners and meeting sponsors will
consider all submissions for the meeting.

Let's build the OER university together.

Cheers
Wayne

Register your  participation in this open planning meeting here:

http://wikieducator.org/OER_for_Assessment_and_Credit_for_Students/Meetings







-- 
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Director OER Foundation 
Director, International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Founder and elected Community Council Member,
Wikieducator
Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
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