[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Jan Visser wrote: > Wayne and Kirby (others?), > > I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It’s a > different use of the technology than what’s normally being done. Papert’s > work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those > alternative uses. It’s therefore different also from the underlying > philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives. > Greetings Jan -- OLPC is a fairly esoteric and futuristic project, is helping drive down the cost of laptops by turning them into netbooks. The XO-2 has an even smaller form factor. The XO comes pre-loaded with some educational materials, otherwise has a rather ordinary Mozilla-based web browser. This idea of one laptop per child (1:1 ratio) is not the development model in many ecosystems, and can't be presumed by every curriculum writer. As someone who works around the Python subculture, I'm linked to OLPC in the sense that the default user interface is implemented in the Python language, as are many of the activities. The machine also knows FORTH. I just upgraded one of the XOs the other night, getting some expert assistance. My other one is still running a rather ancient version of the RedHat system. I was in a long meeting with Alan Kay fairly recently in London, courtesy of Mark Shuttleworth. Guido van Rossum, the inventor of Python, was also at this meeting. We agreed that many educational initiatives are orthogonal to OLPC meaning great if there's a 1:1 ratio, but we're prepared for other contingencies. > > > I took a look at the freedom toaster. I’m not sure if I understood the > concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or > acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading > it with whatever you want to load it with? I’m thinking of places where I > worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids > to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board; > teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic > sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional > portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported > with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to > upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet > access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That > may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small > device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a > photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized > screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger > devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job. > The idea of a Freedom Toaster is its a filling station for static media such as CDs and DVDs. You may not have easy Internet access but if you go to a freedom toaster you can legally burn all manner of digital assets to sharable media. I don't know to what extent said Toasters are themselves self updating. Juke boxes (music players) in some public places now phone home for the current music, don't sport any disks locally. > > > Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If > reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and > printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility. > Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information. > Surprisingly or not, cell phones—shared by many—are in those circumstances > often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable > hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing > songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning > resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances > vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local > environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological > resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of > the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local > level. > > > > Thoughts? > Freedom Toasters could easily contain copyleft audio books etc., not sure to what extent they already do as we don't have any of said toasters in my neck of the woods (Pacific Northwest near 45th parallel, Seattle's longitude), think we ought to, maybe by the next Open Source Conference (OSCON 2010)? We do have a lot of XOs around, plus billboards for G1G1 (the "give one get one" campaign, where you pay for two, donate one to the program). http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157...@n00/3224155740/sizes/l/ (example poster from a previous run) Kirby > > > Jan > > > > -- > > Jan Visser, Ph.D. > > President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute > > E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org > > Check out: htt
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS
Hi Jan, in addition to carrying CD's around, there is a significant social impact associated with the freedom toaster concept. The freedom toaster alerts society to the fact that they do not need to purchase a non-free software license in order to have a fully functional computer system. It informs society about freedom of choice, especially that there is no need to be tempted into using illegal copies of software for lack of money. The freedom toaster is about emancipation with the added benefit of saving considerable costs in bandwidth. When you combine this with projects like Tuxlabs which put old computer hardware to good use, widening access to ICTs in ways which were not possible before -- that's a significant innovation. Moreover, with projects like Wikipedia, it is possible also to provide remote rural schools running open source thin client labs, access to a local version of the largest encyclopaedia developed in the history of human kind. There are innovative projects like MobileEd which harness the potential of Mobile telophony combined with the amazing world of wikis. This is qualitatively different from what has gone before all possible because of a commitment to the essential freedoms :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/11/16 Jan Visser > After further reading I think I understand the concept better. But it’s > still the problem that even when carrying CD’s around to places like the > ones I described, the assumption is that you’ll find some minimal > infrastructure and equipment there that allows you to play them. But I > agree, it solves at least a significant part of existing problems. Regarding > the other part, read my post below. And I’m interested in additional > thoughts from others. > > > > Jan > > > > > -- > > *From:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto: > wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jan Visser > *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:06 PM > *To:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all > the free content? > > > > Wayne and Kirby (others?), > > I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It’s a > different use of the technology than what’s normally being done. Papert’s > work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those > alternative uses. It’s therefore different also from the underlying > philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives. > > > > I took a look at the freedom toaster. I’m not sure if I understood the > concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or > acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading > it with whatever you want to load it with? I’m thinking of places where I > worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids > to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board; > teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic > sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional > portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported > with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to > upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet > access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That > may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small > device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a > photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized > screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger > devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job. > > > > Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If > reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and > printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility. > Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information. > Surprisingly or not, cell phones—shared by many—are in those circumstances > often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable > hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing > songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning > resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances > vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local > environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological > resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of > the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local > level. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Jan &g
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS
Hi Jan You have reminded us of the range of learners to be helped. Expanding mobile phones capabilities bypass many of the problems that you describe and we are seeing amazing progress there. We can be working to immediately benefit learners in less challenging situations. There is an enormous opportunity to work with learners who do have some connectivity and access to online content, although perhaps this is shared or limited by time or location. Providing content and pedagogy with multiple access and delivery options expands the population that can benefit. But, we need to keep the millions of learners in the "tail" in mind as we go forward. Thanks ..Valerie On Nov 15, 3:19 am, "Jan Visser" wrote: places like the > ones I described, the assumption is that you'll find some minimal > infrastructure and equipment there that allows you to play them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 03:05, Jan Visser wrote: > Wayne and Kirby (others?), > > I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It’s a > different use of the technology than what’s normally being done. Papert’s > work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those > alternative uses. It’s therefore different also from the underlying > philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives. Seymour Papert, Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Jerome Bruner, and many others, not only from their roots 40 years ago, but from work that they have continued to do ever since. (In Seymour Papert's case, up until the brain damage from being run down by a motorcycle during an education conference in Vietnam.) How do you see the difference in philosophies? > I took a look at the freedom toaster. I’m not sure if I understood the > concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or > acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading > it with whatever you want to load it with? I’m thinking of places where I > worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids > to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board; > teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic > sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional > portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported > with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to > upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet > access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That > may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small > device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a > photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized > screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger > devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job. The OLPC XO is currently the best and least expensive book reader for such environments, when you include its revolutionary screen technology, ruggedness, extremely low power requirements, and other such design elements. > Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If > reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and > printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility. > Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information. Sugar Labs is working on multi-language text-to-speech conversion. > Surprisingly or not, cell phones—shared by many—are in those circumstances > often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable > hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing > songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning > resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances > vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local > environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological > resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of > the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local > level. Particularly when coupled with renewable electricity, broadband Internet, and microfinance. > Thoughts? > > > > Jan > > > > -- > > Jan Visser, Ph.D. > > President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute > > E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org > > Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev > > Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/ [snip] -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS
After further reading I think I understand the concept better. But it's still the problem that even when carrying CD's around to places like the ones I described, the assumption is that you'll find some minimal infrastructure and equipment there that allows you to play them. But I agree, it solves at least a significant part of existing problems. Regarding the other part, read my post below. And I'm interested in additional thoughts from others. Jan _ From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jan Visser Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:06 PM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? Wayne and Kirby (others?), I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It's a different use of the technology than what's normally being done. Papert's work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those alternative uses. It's therefore different also from the underlying philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives. I took a look at the freedom toaster. I'm not sure if I understood the concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading it with whatever you want to load it with? I'm thinking of places where I worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board; teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job. Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility. Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information. Surprisingly or not, cell phones-shared by many-are in those circumstances often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local level. Thoughts? Jan -- Jan Visser, Ph.D. President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/ _ From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:05 AM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? Hi Kirby, Wow -- its a small world :-). I'm a South African by birth and very familiar with both the Freedom Toaster and Tuxlabs projects -- both inspirational projects. We can learn a lot from these projects and find ways to collaborate. I've always maintained that real ICT innovation in education will come from the developing world. Africa launched a continental information society initiative back in the mid 1990s, long before other regional collectives. Designing within constraints results in real innovation :-). I too have my reservations about the XO project -- however, the strength of the OLPC initiative lies in the projects foresight to think differently about ICTs in education -- namely starting from a pedagogic foundation rather than attempting to replicate existing PC technology. Off to take look at the CS Unplugged' curriculum -- thanks for the link. Cheers Wayne 2009/11/15 kirby urner On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: > Hi Kirby, > > You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital >
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Wayne and Kirby (others?), I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It's a different use of the technology than what's normally being done. Papert's work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those alternative uses. It's therefore different also from the underlying philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives. I took a look at the freedom toaster. I'm not sure if I understood the concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading it with whatever you want to load it with? I'm thinking of places where I worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board; teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job. Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility. Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information. Surprisingly or not, cell phones-shared by many-are in those circumstances often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local level. Thoughts? Jan -- Jan Visser, Ph.D. President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/ _ From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:05 AM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? Hi Kirby, Wow -- its a small world :-). I'm a South African by birth and very familiar with both the Freedom Toaster and Tuxlabs projects -- both inspirational projects. We can learn a lot from these projects and find ways to collaborate. I've always maintained that real ICT innovation in education will come from the developing world. Africa launched a continental information society initiative back in the mid 1990s, long before other regional collectives. Designing within constraints results in real innovation :-). I too have my reservations about the XO project -- however, the strength of the OLPC initiative lies in the projects foresight to think differently about ICTs in education -- namely starting from a pedagogic foundation rather than attempting to replicate existing PC technology. Off to take look at the CS Unplugged' curriculum -- thanks for the link. Cheers Wayne 2009/11/15 kirby urner On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: > Hi Kirby, > > You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital > content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world > where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt, > modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the differentiating > feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content. > > For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New > Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector > (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which can > be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation > (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ Ministry > of Education funded TKI project > (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:40, kirby urner wrote: > > My impression is there's a huge amount of free content if (a) you have > access to the Internet and (b) you have enough education to know how > to read and study the materials, find your peer groups, organize a > learning experience resulting in credentials and opportunities. > > Both (a) and (b) cannot be taken for granted. Indeed. This is part of the Earth Treasury mission, which adds to the One Laptop Per Child (hardware), Sugar Labs (software), and various Free content projects, including Creative Commons and others. Part of the aim is to network up to a billion children together in a collaborative education enterprise, creating the conditions in which they can create Free Software and Free content to suit their needs, and breaking free of the current barriers to education, collaboration, and sharing. It will take a while to make the scope of the plan clear, and longer to make it all happen. > Even with the copyright problem removed completely, we still have few > safe environments for concerted study. Many schools and libraries > curtail access, as much out of necessity and a need to share scarce > bandwidth as out of a lust for censorship, although in the case of > schools, many do practice various kinds of filtering, some more > insidious than others. Bandwidth is rapidly becoming less scarce, even in Africa, which has lagged farthest behind in the past. Multiple fiber optic cables are being laid along both East and West coasts of Africa, and joined to the landlocked countries of the continent, starting with Rwanda and soon continuing with all of the others. I and others at FLOSS Manuals wrote How to Bypass Internet Censorship, with methods to access blocked and filtered content, and to evade surveillance. http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/CircumventionTools/WebHome > In many cultures, young people have the best access through Wifi > Cafes, either over the shoulder (under tutelage), renting time on a > shop machine, or lucky enough to have their own laptop. Some cafes > also rent time on larger screens where more meetings and collaboration > might occur. > > The second most frequent access site is from work, where performance > may be monitored, but where furthering one's education, including > through social networking sites, is increasingly seen as job-relevant > in some lines of work. Studying accounting in a slow moving hair > salon, waiting for customers, can't be all bad, especially if the > bandwidth is being paid for regardless, true of many service provider > contracts. Another need is prepaid e-commerce cards to be sold in cybercafes, so that students can buy books online, and for other purposes. This is because credit cards issued by banks in Africa cannot be used online, since the banks are not integrated into the global banking network. As fiber optic connections become available, this will change, but there remains a great need in the meantime. > In sum, whereas I see a need for more copylefted and license-free > materials, I think the more pointed shortages revolve not around > content, but around access and a shortage of study time except in > formal school settings, to which many are unable to afford access. The essential lacks are electricity, bandwidth, microfinance, and Free replacements for printed textbooks. These support each other, so that all can be expanded together, at a profit overall for all concerned. > The rise of co-working studios, sometimes in working partnerships with > the Wifi Cafes, is probably suggestive of how the younger generation > is self-organizing to overcome these insidious barriers to its future > productivity. > > Once on-line, contributing to Wikis is a great way to start > establishing a track record as a free content provider, building a > portfolio. People need to see what it is that you contribute. This > is what social networking is all about and the evidence suggests > intelligent use of these skills aids in finding collaborators and > staffing companies. Musicians tend to use Myspace. Management > consultants use LinkedIn, Plaxo and so on. More teachers are starting > to use Wikieducator. These are promising signs. > > Kirby > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Minhaaj ur Rehman wrote: >> >> I am pretty sure when Bob Dylan said 'mountain', he didnt only refer >> to copyrighted material, he used it for all 'licensed' material be it >> creative commons or FSF licenses. Freedom is freedom, it doesn't come >> with CC-BY-SA. I would be interested to see how long that mountain >> stands. >> >> On 14 Nov, 00:38, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely. >>> >>> So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and >>> reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a >>> free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and >>
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Wayne, Eliza and others, Here is what we are doing on WikiEducator to facilitate the process of introducing educators to the use of technology one step at a time: http://wikieducator.org/Integrating_Technology_for_Active_Learning Everyone is invited to join. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Wayne Mackintosh < mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Eliza, > > That's a good point. Self-organising, peer production communities are very > different from the traditional model, hence the fear of organisations to try > it out. > > Administrators and decision-makers who don't have experience of the > effectiveness and agility of self-organising systems find it hard to take > decisions committing time and resources to this kind of approach. In some > respects, its like learning to swim -- you have got to get your feet wet. > > One way that has worked well for us is the pilot project approach. We > encourage and support organisations to test the waters with a small but > focused project. Once members of the project team see and experience the > benefits of the self-organising approach -- they're sold. It takes time -- > but authentic experience is a powerful approach in supporting organisations > with incremental transformation. > > Cheers > Wayne > > 2009/11/15 eliza papajanis > >> Hi, there is one point to be added to the list;it`s to protect the victims >> ( teachers or educators) from the bad guys stiil conjacted to the old ways >> and the archaic view of the education; some of them they do it for money >> and/or security and they think there is not a better way. They should be >> encouraged to think differently and it can not be done with the old board of >> authorities hidden in the rooms of all sorts of administration bureau.You >> know what I am speaking about - it is world wilde spret malady.My question >> is: HOW IS IT TO BE DONE.? >> >> 2009/11/14 Wayne Mackintosh >> >> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge >>> freely. >>> >>> So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify >>> and reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a >>> free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and >>> society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it >>> comes to education? >>> >>> To paraphrase Bob Dylan: >>> >>> " How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist >>> Before it's washed to the sea? >>> Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist >>> Before they're allowed to be free? >>> Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads], >>> Pretending [we] just don't see? >>> The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind, >>> The answer is blowin' in the wind." >>> >>> The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a >>> "no-brainer". Getting back to Dylan's refrain "The answer, my friend, is >>> blowin' in the wind" has been described as "impenetrably ambiguous: either >>> the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as >>> intangible as the wind" (see: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind) >>> >>> I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture >>> movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national >>> curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ). >>> >>> >>>- Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa). >>>- During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our >>>site with a full-time staff of two people. >>>- WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more >>>than 110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who >>> share >>>knowledge freely. >>>- WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6% >>>of the number of the registered users compared to WV) >>>- WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical >>>constraints of the Commonwealth. >>> >>> WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is >>> an amazing story and you are making it happen! >>> >>> However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5 >>> years away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in >>> achieving our goal of free digital resources in support of all national >>> curricula. >>> >>>- WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in >>>becoming active contributors to our common goal >>>- WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly >>>easier to use) >>>- WE need to conti
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Hi Valerie, With thanks to dedicated WikiEducators like yourself (and hundreds of others) -- WE, as a community, is now in a position to scale up our original vision of developing digital OERs in support of all national curricula. One advantage of open self organising systems is the ability to solve problems in parallel. For example, we don't need to wait to solve all the distribution challenges before we can start collaborating on high-demand content areas. (That said -- we've made significant progress in tackling on the wiki ==> pdf challenge, and pretty soon teachers around the world will be able to download WikiEducator collections in open document format for editing locally offline -- saving on expensive connectivity costs :-) ) In terms of getting a pilot started, we could for example: - Make contact with Vincent Kizza who is taking leadership in establishing an national OER portal for Uganda (See: http://www.wikieducator.org/OERUG ) -- Ask Vincent about high priority content areas. - Reuse ideas and concepts from the the OERNZ project ( http://www.wikieducator.org/New_Zealand_Schools_OER_Portal ) which is starting to think about different types of OER that may be useful in the school sector (http://tinyurl.com/yld88n2) - Take Declan up on his offer for us to remix, collaborate and add value to the amazing set of lesson materials in Biology for Elementary Schools developed by his students (http://tinyurl.com/yg6wqut ) I'm sure there are many other ideas we could consider, but this would be a good starting point for a proof-of-concept? Other ideas? Cheers Wayne 2009/11/15 valerie > > Thanks Wayne > > Many of us would like to work on exactly this sort of project. > > What do we know about the content needs for this? Can we layout a > foundation so we can collaborate on content creation and assembly, in > parallel with resolving distribution issues? Is there some subject and > grade level that could be used as a pilot program? > > It would be nice to find a specific high-demand content area to work > through as a proof-of-concept. > > ..Valerie > > > On Nov 14, 2:17 pm, Wayne Mackintosh > wrote: > How can OER help these children? This is why we need to think > creatively > about technologies that can generate printed text books for children > who > will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of > creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning > with > national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the > traditional > models of educational provision. This is a tough challenge -- but > with > concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is > part > of the solution. > > > -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Hi Wayne & Kirby, Please keep us informed of the developments here - this could be a great leadership statement, and a challenge to other CS departments 'round the world to follow... - Randy On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Wayne Mackintosh < mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Kirby, > > Wow -- its a small world :-). I'm a South African by birth and very > familiar with both the Freedom Toaster and Tuxlabs projects -- both > inspirational projects. We can learn a lot from these projects and find ways > to collaborate. > > I've always maintained that real ICT innovation in education will come from > the developing world. Africa launched a continental information society > initiative back in the mid 1990s, long before other regional collectives. > Designing within constraints results in real innovation :-). > > I too have my reservations about the XO project -- however, the strength of > the OLPC initiative lies in the projects foresight to think differently > about ICTs in education -- namely starting from a pedagogic foundation > rather than attempting to replicate existing PC technology. > > Off to take look at the CS Unplugged' curriculum -- thanks for the link. > > Cheers > Wayne > > 2009/11/15 kirby urner > >> >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh >> wrote: >> > Hi Kirby, >> > >> > You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital >> > content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world >> > where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt, >> > modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the >> differentiating >> > feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content. >> > >> > For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New >> > Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector >> > (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material >> which can >> > be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation >> > (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ >> Ministry >> > of Education funded TKI project >> > (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples >> there is >> > no cost associated with viewing or making copies for educational >> purposes. >> > However, the most important freedom for educators -- namely the right to >> > adapt, modify and redistribute the content to better meet the needs of >> the >> > learners we serve are restricted :-(. >> > >> >> We're applaud the 'CS Unplugged' curriculum, made a link to it from my >> notes on one of our digital math meetings (a group of professional >> educators, lobbying for State of Oregon to make 2010 a launch year for >> some of our pilots): >> >> http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/08/education-planning.html (CS >> Unplugged linked from 2nd paragraph FYI). >> >> > Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet >> access in >> > a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to >> basic >> > access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan >> Africa >> > of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system >> will >> > not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher. >> There >> > is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough >> > teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn. >> > >> > How can OER help these children? This is why we need to think >> creatively >> > about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who >> > will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of >> > creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning >> with >> > national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the >> traditional >> > models of educational provision. This is a tough challenge -- but with >> > concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is >> part >> > of the solution. >> > >> >> OER might want to consider Freedom Toaster as another way of >> distributing content, perhaps a subset of WikiEducator site >> specifically designed for off-line readers. >> >> http://www.freedomtoaster.org/ >> >> In the South Africa ecosystem, there's this notion of TuxLabs (free >> access to computer labs), though not all of them are branded this way. >> >> One Laptop Per Child remains a relatively exotic approach, coupled >> with its G1G1 marketing campaign (I have two XOs myself, which I loan >> out to curious students -- there's a Python connection). >> >> In addition to printed textbooks, sometimes blank notebooks and >> writing implements are in even scarcer supply. >> >> > That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these >> > challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER >> fits >> > into the bigger picture. >> > >> > Cheers >> > Wayne >> > >> >> I'm glad this list is available for these sorts of discussions, >> look
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Hi Kirby, Wow -- CS unplugged is very smart!!! Any possibility of getting the course materials released under a license that meets the requirements of the free cultural works definition? A few essential freedoms missing in the current license being used :-(. ND & NC clauses restricting the potential here IMHO. Next time I travel to ChristChurch -- I'm more than happy to have a chat with the Computer Science department to see if we can get release of the materials under a free content license. Cheers Wayne 2009/11/15 kirby urner > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh > wrote: > > Hi Kirby, > > > > You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital > > content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world > > where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt, > > modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the > differentiating > > feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content. > > > > For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New > > Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector > > (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which > can > > be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation > > (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ > Ministry > > of Education funded TKI project > > (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples > there is > > no cost associated with viewing or making copies for educational > purposes. > > However, the most important freedom for educators -- namely the right to > > adapt, modify and redistribute the content to better meet the needs of > the > > learners we serve are restricted :-(. > > > > We're applaud the 'CS Unplugged' curriculum, made a link to it from my > notes on one of our digital math meetings (a group of professional > educators, lobbying for State of Oregon to make 2010 a launch year for > some of our pilots): > > http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/08/education-planning.html (CS > Unplugged linked from 2nd paragraph FYI). > > > Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet access > in > > a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to > basic > > access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan > Africa > > of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system > will > > not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher. > There > > is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough > > teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn. > > > > How can OER help these children? This is why we need to think creatively > > about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who > > will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of > > creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning > with > > national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the > traditional > > models of educational provision. This is a tough challenge -- but with > > concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is > part > > of the solution. > > > > OER might want to consider Freedom Toaster as another way of > distributing content, perhaps a subset of WikiEducator site > specifically designed for off-line readers. > > http://www.freedomtoaster.org/ > > In the South Africa ecosystem, there's this notion of TuxLabs (free > access to computer labs), though not all of them are branded this way. > > One Laptop Per Child remains a relatively exotic approach, coupled > with its G1G1 marketing campaign (I have two XOs myself, which I loan > out to curious students -- there's a Python connection). > > In addition to printed textbooks, sometimes blank notebooks and > writing implements are in even scarcer supply. > > > That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these > > challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER fits > > into the bigger picture. > > > > Cheers > > Wayne > > > > I'm glad this list is available for these sorts of discussions, > looking forward to more. > > I'm pleased to discover OER is such a committed and creative organization. > > Kirby > > > > -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Hi Kirby, Wow -- its a small world :-). I'm a South African by birth and very familiar with both the Freedom Toaster and Tuxlabs projects -- both inspirational projects. We can learn a lot from these projects and find ways to collaborate. I've always maintained that real ICT innovation in education will come from the developing world. Africa launched a continental information society initiative back in the mid 1990s, long before other regional collectives. Designing within constraints results in real innovation :-). I too have my reservations about the XO project -- however, the strength of the OLPC initiative lies in the projects foresight to think differently about ICTs in education -- namely starting from a pedagogic foundation rather than attempting to replicate existing PC technology. Off to take look at the CS Unplugged' curriculum -- thanks for the link. Cheers Wayne 2009/11/15 kirby urner > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh > wrote: > > Hi Kirby, > > > > You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital > > content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world > > where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt, > > modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the > differentiating > > feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content. > > > > For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New > > Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector > > (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which > can > > be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation > > (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ > Ministry > > of Education funded TKI project > > (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples > there is > > no cost associated with viewing or making copies for educational > purposes. > > However, the most important freedom for educators -- namely the right to > > adapt, modify and redistribute the content to better meet the needs of > the > > learners we serve are restricted :-(. > > > > We're applaud the 'CS Unplugged' curriculum, made a link to it from my > notes on one of our digital math meetings (a group of professional > educators, lobbying for State of Oregon to make 2010 a launch year for > some of our pilots): > > http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/08/education-planning.html (CS > Unplugged linked from 2nd paragraph FYI). > > > Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet access > in > > a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to > basic > > access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan > Africa > > of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system > will > > not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher. > There > > is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough > > teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn. > > > > How can OER help these children? This is why we need to think creatively > > about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who > > will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of > > creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning > with > > national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the > traditional > > models of educational provision. This is a tough challenge -- but with > > concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is > part > > of the solution. > > > > OER might want to consider Freedom Toaster as another way of > distributing content, perhaps a subset of WikiEducator site > specifically designed for off-line readers. > > http://www.freedomtoaster.org/ > > In the South Africa ecosystem, there's this notion of TuxLabs (free > access to computer labs), though not all of them are branded this way. > > One Laptop Per Child remains a relatively exotic approach, coupled > with its G1G1 marketing campaign (I have two XOs myself, which I loan > out to curious students -- there's a Python connection). > > In addition to printed textbooks, sometimes blank notebooks and > writing implements are in even scarcer supply. > > > That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these > > challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER fits > > into the bigger picture. > > > > Cheers > > Wayne > > > > I'm glad this list is available for these sorts of discussions, > looking forward to more. > > I'm pleased to discover OER is such a committed and creative organization. > > Kirby > > > > -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: > Hi Kirby, > > You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital > content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world > where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt, > modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the differentiating > feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content. > > For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New > Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector > (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which can > be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation > (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ Ministry > of Education funded TKI project > (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples there is > no cost associated with viewing or making copies for educational purposes. > However, the most important freedom for educators -- namely the right to > adapt, modify and redistribute the content to better meet the needs of the > learners we serve are restricted :-(. > We're applaud the 'CS Unplugged' curriculum, made a link to it from my notes on one of our digital math meetings (a group of professional educators, lobbying for State of Oregon to make 2010 a launch year for some of our pilots): http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/08/education-planning.html (CS Unplugged linked from 2nd paragraph FYI). > Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet access in > a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to basic > access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan Africa > of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system will > not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher. There > is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough > teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn. > > How can OER help these children? This is why we need to think creatively > about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who > will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of > creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning with > national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the traditional > models of educational provision. This is a tough challenge -- but with > concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is part > of the solution. > OER might want to consider Freedom Toaster as another way of distributing content, perhaps a subset of WikiEducator site specifically designed for off-line readers. http://www.freedomtoaster.org/ In the South Africa ecosystem, there's this notion of TuxLabs (free access to computer labs), though not all of them are branded this way. One Laptop Per Child remains a relatively exotic approach, coupled with its G1G1 marketing campaign (I have two XOs myself, which I loan out to curious students -- there's a Python connection). In addition to printed textbooks, sometimes blank notebooks and writing implements are in even scarcer supply. > That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these > challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER fits > into the bigger picture. > > Cheers > Wayne > I'm glad this list is available for these sorts of discussions, looking forward to more. I'm pleased to discover OER is such a committed and creative organization. Kirby --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Thanks Wayne Many of us would like to work on exactly this sort of project. What do we know about the content needs for this? Can we layout a foundation so we can collaborate on content creation and assembly, in parallel with resolving distribution issues? Is there some subject and grade level that could be used as a pilot program? It would be nice to find a specific high-demand content area to work through as a proof-of-concept. ..Valerie On Nov 14, 2:17 pm, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: How can OER help these children? This is why we need to think creatively about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning with national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the traditional models of educational provision. This is a tough challenge -- but with concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is part of the solution. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Hi Kirby, You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt, modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the differentiating feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content. For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector ( http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which can be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation ( http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ Ministry of Education funded TKI project (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples there is no cost associated with viewing or making copies for educational purposes. However, the most important freedom for educators -- namely the right to adapt, modify and redistribute the content to better meet the needs of the learners we serve are restricted :-(. Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet access in a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to basic access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan Africa of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system will not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher. There is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn. How can OER help these children? This is why we need to think creatively about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning with national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the traditional models of educational provision. This is a tough challenge -- but with concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is part of the solution. That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER fits into the bigger picture. Cheers Wayne 2009/11/15 kirby urner > > My impression is there's a huge amount of free content if (a) you have > access to the Internet and (b) you have enough education to know how > to read and study the materials, find your peer groups, organize a > learning experience resulting in credentials and opportunities. > > Both (a) and (b) cannot be taken for granted. > > Even with the copyright problem removed completely, we still have few > safe environments for concerted study. Many schools and libraries > curtail access, as much out of necessity and a need to share scarce > bandwidth as out of a lust for censorship, although in the case of > schools, many do practice various kinds of filtering, some more > insidious than others. > > In many cultures, young people have the best access through Wifi > Cafes, either over the shoulder (under tutelage), renting time on a > shop machine, or lucky enough to have their own laptop. Some cafes > also rent time on larger screens where more meetings and collaboration > might occur. > > The second most frequent access site is from work, where performance > may be monitored, but where furthering one's education, including > through social networking sites, is increasingly seen as job-relevant > in some lines of work. Studying accounting in a slow moving hair > salon, waiting for customers, can't be all bad, especially if the > bandwidth is being paid for regardless, true of many service provider > contracts. > > In sum, whereas I see a need for more copylefted and license-free > materials, I think the more pointed shortages revolve not around > content, but around access and a shortage of study time except in > formal school settings, to which many are unable to afford access. > > The rise of co-working studios, sometimes in working partnerships with > the Wifi Cafes, is probably suggestive of how the younger generation > is self-organizing to overcome these insidious barriers to its future > productivity. > > Once on-line, contributing to Wikis is a great way to start > establishing a track record as a free content provider, building a > portfolio. People need to see what it is that you contribute. This > is what social networking is all about and the evidence suggests > intelligent use of these skills aids in finding collaborators and > staffing companies. Musicians tend to use Myspace. Management > consultants use LinkedIn, Plaxo and so on. More teachers are starting > to use Wikieducator. These are promising signs. > > Kirby > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Minhaaj ur Rehman > wrote: > > > > I am pretty sure when Bob Dylan said 'mountain', he didnt only refer > > to copyrighted material, he used it for al
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Hi Eliza, That's a good point. Self-organising, peer production communities are very different from the traditional model, hence the fear of organisations to try it out. Administrators and decision-makers who don't have experience of the effectiveness and agility of self-organising systems find it hard to take decisions committing time and resources to this kind of approach. In some respects, its like learning to swim -- you have got to get your feet wet. One way that has worked well for us is the pilot project approach. We encourage and support organisations to test the waters with a small but focused project. Once members of the project team see and experience the benefits of the self-organising approach -- they're sold. It takes time -- but authentic experience is a powerful approach in supporting organisations with incremental transformation. Cheers Wayne 2009/11/15 eliza papajanis > Hi, there is one point to be added to the list;it`s to protect the victims > ( teachers or educators) from the bad guys stiil conjacted to the old ways > and the archaic view of the education; some of them they do it for money > and/or security and they think there is not a better way. They should be > encouraged to think differently and it can not be done with the old board of > authorities hidden in the rooms of all sorts of administration bureau.You > know what I am speaking about - it is world wilde spret malady.My question > is: HOW IS IT TO BE DONE.? > > 2009/11/14 Wayne Mackintosh > > Hi Everyone, >> >> A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge >> freely. >> >> So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify >> and reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a >> free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and >> society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it >> comes to education? >> >> To paraphrase Bob Dylan: >> >> " How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist >> Before it's washed to the sea? >> Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist >> Before they're allowed to be free? >> Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads], >> Pretending [we] just don't see? >> The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind, >> The answer is blowin' in the wind." >> >> The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a >> "no-brainer". Getting back to Dylan's refrain "The answer, my friend, is >> blowin' in the wind" has been described as "impenetrably ambiguous: either >> the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as >> intangible as the wind" (see: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind) >> >> I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture >> movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national >> curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ). >> >> >>- Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa). >>- During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site >>with a full-time staff of two people. >>- WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more >>than 110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share >>knowledge freely. >>- WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6% >>of the number of the registered users compared to WV) >>- WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical >>constraints of the Commonwealth. >> >> WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is an >> amazing story and you are making it happen! >> >> However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5 >> years away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in >> achieving our goal of free digital resources in support of all national >> curricula. >> >>- WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in >>becoming active contributors to our common goal >>- WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly >>easier to use) >>- WE need to continue our commitment to provide free training to any >>warm-blooded (as in mammal) educator in the world who wants to learn wiki >>skills >>- WE need to connect educators across international boundaries and >>- WE need to have fun while contributing to the social good of >>education. >>- What else do WE need to do? >> >> >> Is the answer so obvious or as intangible as the wind? >> >> Let's continue making OER futures happen for the world -- the wiki way. >> >> Cheers >> Wayne >> >> >> -- >> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. >> Director, >> International Centre for Open Education, >> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. >> Board of Directors, OER Foundation. >> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org >> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 >> Skype: WGMNZ1 >> Twitter: OERFoundation
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
My impression is there's a huge amount of free content if (a) you have access to the Internet and (b) you have enough education to know how to read and study the materials, find your peer groups, organize a learning experience resulting in credentials and opportunities. Both (a) and (b) cannot be taken for granted. Even with the copyright problem removed completely, we still have few safe environments for concerted study. Many schools and libraries curtail access, as much out of necessity and a need to share scarce bandwidth as out of a lust for censorship, although in the case of schools, many do practice various kinds of filtering, some more insidious than others. In many cultures, young people have the best access through Wifi Cafes, either over the shoulder (under tutelage), renting time on a shop machine, or lucky enough to have their own laptop. Some cafes also rent time on larger screens where more meetings and collaboration might occur. The second most frequent access site is from work, where performance may be monitored, but where furthering one's education, including through social networking sites, is increasingly seen as job-relevant in some lines of work. Studying accounting in a slow moving hair salon, waiting for customers, can't be all bad, especially if the bandwidth is being paid for regardless, true of many service provider contracts. In sum, whereas I see a need for more copylefted and license-free materials, I think the more pointed shortages revolve not around content, but around access and a shortage of study time except in formal school settings, to which many are unable to afford access. The rise of co-working studios, sometimes in working partnerships with the Wifi Cafes, is probably suggestive of how the younger generation is self-organizing to overcome these insidious barriers to its future productivity. Once on-line, contributing to Wikis is a great way to start establishing a track record as a free content provider, building a portfolio. People need to see what it is that you contribute. This is what social networking is all about and the evidence suggests intelligent use of these skills aids in finding collaborators and staffing companies. Musicians tend to use Myspace. Management consultants use LinkedIn, Plaxo and so on. More teachers are starting to use Wikieducator. These are promising signs. Kirby On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Minhaaj ur Rehman wrote: > > I am pretty sure when Bob Dylan said 'mountain', he didnt only refer > to copyrighted material, he used it for all 'licensed' material be it > creative commons or FSF licenses. Freedom is freedom, it doesn't come > with CC-BY-SA. I would be interested to see how long that mountain > stands. > > On 14 Nov, 00:38, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely. >> >> So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and >> reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a >> free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and >> society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it >> comes to education? >> >> To paraphrase Bob Dylan: >> >> " How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist >> Before it's washed to the sea? >> Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist >> Before they're allowed to be free? >> Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads], >> Pretending [we] just don't see? >> The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind, >> The answer is blowin' in the wind." >> >> The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a >> "no-brainer". Getting back to Dylan's refrain "The answer, my friend, is >> blowin' in the wind" has been described as "impenetrably ambiguous: either >> the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as >> intangible as the wind" >> (see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind) >> >> I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture >> movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national >> curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ). >> >> - Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa). >> - During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site >> with a full-time staff of two people. >> - WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more than >> 110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share >> knowledge freely. >> - WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6% of >> the number of the registered users compared to WV) >> - WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical >> constraints of the Commonwealth. >> >> WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is an >> amazing story and you are making it happen! >> >> However, we
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
I am pretty sure when Bob Dylan said 'mountain', he didnt only refer to copyrighted material, he used it for all 'licensed' material be it creative commons or FSF licenses. Freedom is freedom, it doesn't come with CC-BY-SA. I would be interested to see how long that mountain stands. On 14 Nov, 00:38, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely. > > So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and > reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a > free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and > society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it > comes to education? > > To paraphrase Bob Dylan: > > " How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist > Before it's washed to the sea? > Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist > Before they're allowed to be free? > Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads], > Pretending [we] just don't see? > The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind, > The answer is blowin' in the wind." > > The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a > "no-brainer". Getting back to Dylan's refrain "The answer, my friend, is > blowin' in the wind" has been described as "impenetrably ambiguous: either > the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as > intangible as the wind" > (see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind) > > I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture > movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national > curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ). > > - Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa). > - During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site > with a full-time staff of two people. > - WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more than > 110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share > knowledge freely. > - WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6% of > the number of the registered users compared to WV) > - WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical > constraints of the Commonwealth. > > WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is an > amazing story and you are making it happen! > > However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5 years > away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in achieving our > goal of free digital resources in support of all national curricula. > > - WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in > becoming active contributors to our common goal > - WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly easier > to use) > - WE need to continue our commitment to provide free training to any > warm-blooded (as in mammal) educator in the world who wants to learn wiki > skills > - WE need to connect educators across international boundaries and > - WE need to have fun while contributing to the social good of education. > - What else do WE need to do? > > Is the answer so obvious or as intangible as the wind? > > Let's continue making OER futures happen for the world -- the wiki way. > > Cheers > Wayne > > -- > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. > Director, > International Centre for Open Education, > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > Board of Directors, OER Foundation. > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380 > Skype: WGMNZ1 > Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Hi, there is one point to be added to the list;it`s to protect the victims ( teachers or educators) from the bad guys stiil conjacted to the old ways and the archaic view of the education; some of them they do it for money and/or security and they think there is not a better way. They should be encouraged to think differently and it can not be done with the old board of authorities hidden in the rooms of all sorts of administration bureau.You know what I am speaking about - it is world wilde spret malady.My question is: HOW IS IT TO BE DONE.? 2009/11/14 Wayne Mackintosh > Hi Everyone, > > A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely. > > > So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and > reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a > free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and > society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it > comes to education? > > To paraphrase Bob Dylan: > > " How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist > Before it's washed to the sea? > Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist > Before they're allowed to be free? > Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads], > Pretending [we] just don't see? > The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind, > The answer is blowin' in the wind." > > The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a > "no-brainer". Getting back to Dylan's refrain "The answer, my friend, is > blowin' in the wind" has been described as "impenetrably ambiguous: either > the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as > intangible as the wind" (see: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind) > > I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture > movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national > curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ). > > >- Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa). >- During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site >with a full-time staff of two people. >- WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more than >110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share >knowledge freely. >- WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6% >of the number of the registered users compared to WV) >- WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical >constraints of the Commonwealth. > > WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is an > amazing story and you are making it happen! > > However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5 > years away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in > achieving our goal of free digital resources in support of all national > curricula. > >- WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in >becoming active contributors to our common goal >- WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly >easier to use) >- WE need to continue our commitment to provide free training to any >warm-blooded (as in mammal) educator in the world who wants to learn wiki >skills >- WE need to connect educators across international boundaries and >- WE need to have fun while contributing to the social good of >education. >- What else do WE need to do? > > > Is the answer so obvious or as intangible as the wind? > > Let's continue making OER futures happen for the world -- the wiki way. > > Cheers > Wayne > > > -- > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. > Director, > International Centre for Open Education, > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > Board of Directors, OER Foundation. > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380 > Skype: WGMNZ1 > Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
This is really impressive, Wayne. WikiEducator has grown into the most active open source online platform there is globally and it has been a privilege to have been part of this growing community and project from the get go. It has been an exciting journey to this point and I am looking forward to much more to come. Cheers, Patricia On Nov 13, 3:38 pm, Wayne Mackintosh wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely. > > So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and > reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a > free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and > society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it > comes to education? > > To paraphrase Bob Dylan: > > " How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist > Before it's washed to the sea? > Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist > Before they're allowed to be free? > Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads], > Pretending [we] just don't see? > The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind, > The answer is blowin' in the wind." > > The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a > "no-brainer". Getting back to Dylan's refrain "The answer, my friend, is > blowin' in the wind" has been described as "impenetrably ambiguous: either > the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as > intangible as the wind" > (see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind) > > I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture > movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national > curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ). > > - Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa). > - During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site > with a full-time staff of two people. > - WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more than > 110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share > knowledge freely. > - WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6% of > the number of the registered users compared to WV) > - WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical > constraints of the Commonwealth. > > WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is an > amazing story and you are making it happen! > > However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5 years > away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in achieving our > goal of free digital resources in support of all national curricula. > > - WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in > becoming active contributors to our common goal > - WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly easier > to use) > - WE need to continue our commitment to provide free training to any > warm-blooded (as in mammal) educator in the world who wants to learn wiki > skills > - WE need to connect educators across international boundaries and > - WE need to have fun while contributing to the social good of education. > - What else do WE need to do? > > Is the answer so obvious or as intangible as the wind? > > Let's continue making OER futures happen for the world -- the wiki way. > > Cheers > Wayne > > -- > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. > Director, > International Centre for Open Education, > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > Board of Directors, OER Foundation. > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380 > Skype: WGMNZ1 > Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---