Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?
Thank you. This is excellent. Is anybody in your department, or elsewhere working with you, looking at the issues of infrastructure for adult education? For example, West Africa has had an optical fiber connection for only a few years, and East Africa got its first just last summer. There are six more cables in various stages of deployment or organization. There is a funded plan to run optical fiber cables from the coastal landing points to the dozen landlocked countries of Africa, with Rwanda in the lead. Rwanda also has an international communications company laying out a system of optical fiber cables from the capital to all of its other cities, with plans for further connections in a mix of technologies all the way to the villages. The other essential element of infrastructure is electricity. Plans for national power grids are far behind communications deployments. This means that we need research and development to find and deploy the most appropriate renewable power solutions locally for every inhabited terrain and climate. Options include solar (PV or thermal), wind, microhydro, biofuels (preferably not made from food crops, unless a quite large surplus can be created), animal, and (for schools) child power. Two other essential elements are microfinance and replacing printed textbooks with interactive electronic learning materials. OLPC XO laptops already cost less than textbooks in most countries, and with the expected appearance of a $75 successor to the XO, that will extend to all but the poorest of poor countries, those that simply cannot afford good textbooks of any kind now. Microfinance is essential for the creation of jobs in countries with bad government planning and policies, and also to fund the infrastructure for both jobs and education. Each of these is an area where training of adults is vital--teachers, entrepreneurs, microbankers, translators, subject-matter experts to create the learning materials on local agriculture, forest products, water, health, and all the rest. We need at least one electricity vendor and one sysadmin/ISP person per village, able to maintain equipment and services and manage a business. Then we can discuss e-commerce for art and craft items unique to a village or a region; larger business opportunities by processing, storing, and marketing fresh and processed agricultural products; IT services for other businesses, including Web sites and software development; outsourcing; and the rest of the base for a globally integrated economy. I have tried to interest business schools in these topics, so far to no avail. Everybody talks about the bottom of the pyramid, but it seems that nobody wants to be the one to do anything about it. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 22:11, joyce.mckni...@esc.edu wrote: It will be quite comprehensive and will include several different strands that will enable students to design their degree programs (as they can in our undergraduate programs). It does have an international stands, an online/distance learning stand, and a social justice strand (along with a human resource development thread and an adult learning/cognition strand). We think that most students will already be practitioners who want a high quality online program that can be designed around their own area of practice. We will use a praxis model. The social justice thread that I am helping to create will be largely based on Freire, Myles Horton, and Gandhi among others and will include literacy issues. The international and distance learning components will include OER. As I said, students will be able to mix and match studies under the guidance of a faculty mentor. Since we are one of the largest primarily adult serving educations in the US and have about forty years of serving adults with limited access to higher education, we anticipate that those students who do not presently have a practice site will be able to work with us in internships. (Pardon me if my terminology is shaky...it is 1 a.m. here. J. Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Sent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com 12/17/2009 10:00 PM PSTPlease respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.com To wikieducator@googlegroups.com cc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNY Subject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Will your curriculum cover adult education in the US only, or will you take a wider view? I have done some work on adult literacy, and there are many other such issues. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 21:57, joyce.mckni...@esc.edu wrote: Yes sir. In fact we are in the process of developing our graduate curriculum right now in preparation for applying to the Department of Education of the State of New York for certification. I am part of the team creating the program and will suggest that we offer this course as a part of our curriculum. I have already suggested something similar. J. Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Sent by: wikieducator
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This is indeed interesting and enlightening. Our expertise is not so much in the hardware of online communication but more in developing ways of effectively teaching adults at a distance and designing effective learning strategies. In fact, we are constantly trying to better understand the issues and meet them. Interestingly, some of our students in inner cities and rural areas in the US have some of the problems you outline...not so much lack of a grid although some say the US grid is in danger of collapse...but in terms of things like the cost of textbooks and availability of reasonably priced computers. One of the things the developing world and the OER movement at least talks about doing is using phones and other hand held devices for communication...we are behind in that technology but want to explore using it, not only to assist the developing world but to better reach some of our own students. Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.comSent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/18/2009 12:21 AM PSTPlease respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Thank you. This is excellent.Is anybody in your department, or elsewhere working with you, lookingatthe issues of infrastructure for adult education? For example, WestAfricahas had an optical fiber connection for only a few years, andEastAfrica got its first just last summer. There are six more cablesinvarious stages of deployment or organization. There is a fundedplanto run optical fiber cables from the coastal landing points tothedozen landlocked countries of Africa, with Rwanda in the lead.Rwandaalso has an international communications company laying out asystemof optical fiber cables from the capital to all of its othercities,with plans for further connections in a mix of technologiesallthe way to the villages.The other essential element of infrastructure is electricity. Plansfornational power grids are far behind communications deployments.Thismeans that we need research and development to find and deploythemost appropriate renewable power solutions locally for everyinhabitedterrain and climate. Options include solar (PV or thermal),wind,microhydro, biofuels (preferably not made from food crops,unlessa quite large surplus can be created), animal, and (forschools)child power.Two other essential elements are microfinance and replacing printedtextbookswith interactive electronic learning materials. OLPC XOlaptopsalready cost less than textbooks in most countries, and withtheexpected appearance of a $75 successor to the XO, that will extendtoall but the poorest of poor countries, those that simply cannotaffordgood textbooks of any kind now. Microfinance is essential forthecreation of jobs in countries with bad government planning andpolicies,and also to fund the infrastructure for both jobs andeducation.Each of these is an area where training of adults is vital--teachers,entrepreneurs,microbankers, translators, subject-matter experts tocreatethe learning materials on local agriculture, forest products,water,health, and all the rest. We need at least one electricityvendorand one sysadmin/ISP person per village, able to maintainequipmentand services and manage a business. Then we can discusse-commercefor art and craft items unique to a village or a region;largerbusiness opportunities by processing, storing, and marketingfreshand processed agricultural products; IT services for otherbusinesses,including Web sites and software development; outsourcing;andthe rest of the base for a globally integrated economy.I have tried to interest business schools in these topics, so far tonoavail. Everybody talks about the bottom of the pyramid, but itseemsthat nobody wants to be the one to do anything about it.On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 22:11, joyce.mckni...@esc.edu wrote:It will be quite comprehensive and will include several different strandsthat will enable students to design their degree programs (as they can inour undergraduate programs). It does have an international stands, anonline/distance learning stand, and a social justice strand (along with ahuman resource development thread and an adult learning/cognition strand).We think that most students will already be practitioners who want a highquality online program that can be designed around their own area ofpractice. We will use a praxis model. The social justice thread that I amhelping to create will be largely based on Freire, Myles Horton, and Gandhiamong others and will include literacy issues. The international anddistance learning components will include OER. As I said, students will beable to mix and match studies under the guidance of a faculty mentor.Since we are one of the largest primarily adult serving educations in the USand have about forty years of serving adults with limited access to highereducation, we anticipate that those students who do not presently have apractice site will be able to work
Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?
Very inspirational, Wayne. So, let's get those signatures, from the membership institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission, coming in. Where do WE start? :) Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie, WE commend your example of sharing -- without this culture of gifting, humanity looses its reason for existence. Much of our work in general and that of WikiEducator in particular has been inspired by Mahatma Gandhi -- as Gandhi said: Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man [woman] whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him [her]. Will he [she] gain anything by it? Will it restore him [her] to a control over his [her] own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to swaraj [freedom] for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away. The OER Foundation is committed to finding ways of realising Gandhi's vision through open education -- with the help of all WikiEducators, we can! For example we can encourage our institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission (less than an average business lunch in the industrial world for a standard membership). In the real world -- without money coming in (through grant funding, institutional membership contributions, government contracts etc) -- we will not have the funding to make you lead facilitator to pay those who join you as co-facilitators :-). You (and many others) in our family exemplify sharing and gifting to help WE's mission -- Thank you! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, I have been a lead facilitator for quite a few workshops and have volunteered to many more as co-facilitator in the last year. In addition, I have seen others volunteer as co-facilitators but the numbers are small and it's harder to find more than a name on the list of co-facilitators because it appears people do not have the incentive to actively engage in helping for free. To encourage others to co-facilitate, I am now sharing my pay with the co-facilitators so that I can contribute to Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. So, Wayne, I encourage you to make me a lead facilitator so I can share my pay with those who joins me as co-facilitators. I hope to encourage other members of WikiEducator to do the same. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie, I agree -- Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. This is one of the prime reasons the OER Foundation subscribes to the free cultural works definition to respect the rights and freedom of individuals to earn a living from OER. Since the inception of WikiEducator and the Learning4Content project -- to date with generous funding support from the Hewlett Foundation the Commonwealth of Learning we have paid a facilitators fee for the lead facilitator of each workshop. We are also very fortunate because many WikiEducators have volunteered and gifted their time as co-facilitators (which we do not remunerate due to funding constraints.) I am proud to see so many of our L4C facilitators who volunteer their time to support other workshops as co-facilitators when they're not being paid as lead facilitator. As Wikieducator grows and prepares for scaling-up and building a sustainable OER ecosystem there will be more opportunities for us to honour Article 23 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights :-). Working together we will achieve these aims and every WikiEducator will be able to contribute to our future success in a variety of roles. Lets make the future happen! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, WE volunteers are passionate about the cause but need to make a living. Money is not a dirty word and everyone who spends hours
Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?
Hi Nellie Good question! A good place to start is by reading the planing documents for the OER Foundation: http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Planning (and supporting FAQ's etc.) - and hey -- if these are not up to scratch, we can improve them through discussions and multiple iterations. This is our project. Let's cultivate a shared vision for the future -- the wiki way. With this knowledge -- as individuals we can inform our institutions about what we are doing and why we're doing it. We can show our institutions how to become more productive and effective using OER. For those of us working in the formal education sector, we can encourage our institutions to consider memberships --- WE are the marketing team for our WE futures! If there are questions, ideas or requests for guidance and support -- post them on this list. Remember our community motto -- Just try it, our community will support you! I don't know how our future path will evolve -- but I do know that working together, we can make the future happen. Think about the future as an asset -- rather than an unknown entity. With this knowledge -- we can do the magic :-) Gee -- we live in exciting times. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Very inspirational, Wayne. So, let's get those signatures, from the membership institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission, coming in. Where do WE start? :) Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie, WE commend your example of sharing -- without this culture of gifting, humanity looses its reason for existence. Much of our work in general and that of WikiEducator in particular has been inspired by Mahatma Gandhi -- as Gandhi said: Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man [woman] whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him [her]. Will he [she] gain anything by it? Will it restore him [her] to a control over his [her] own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to swaraj [freedom] for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away. The OER Foundation is committed to finding ways of realising Gandhi's vision through open education -- with the help of all WikiEducators, we can! For example we can encourage our institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission (less than an average business lunch in the industrial world for a standard membership). In the real world -- without money coming in (through grant funding, institutional membership contributions, government contracts etc) -- we will not have the funding to make you lead facilitator to pay those who join you as co-facilitators :-). You (and many others) in our family exemplify sharing and gifting to help WE's mission -- Thank you! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, I have been a lead facilitator for quite a few workshops and have volunteered to many more as co-facilitator in the last year. In addition, I have seen others volunteer as co-facilitators but the numbers are small and it's harder to find more than a name on the list of co-facilitators because it appears people do not have the incentive to actively engage in helping for free. To encourage others to co-facilitate, I am now sharing my pay with the co-facilitators so that I can contribute to Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. So, Wayne, I encourage you to make me a lead facilitator so I can share my pay with those who joins me as co-facilitators. I hope to encourage other members of WikiEducator to do the same. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie, I agree -- Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. This is one of the prime reasons the OER Foundation subscribes to the free cultural works
Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?
Wayne, This is very doable so let's get started as a team because as a team WE can make a difference to all its members. Thank you. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie Good question! A good place to start is by reading the planing documents for the OER Foundation: http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Planning (and supporting FAQ's etc.) - and hey -- if these are not up to scratch, we can improve them through discussions and multiple iterations. This is our project. Let's cultivate a shared vision for the future -- the wiki way. With this knowledge -- as individuals we can inform our institutions about what we are doing and why we're doing it. We can show our institutions how to become more productive and effective using OER. For those of us working in the formal education sector, we can encourage our institutions to consider memberships --- WE are the marketing team for our WE futures! If there are questions, ideas or requests for guidance and support -- post them on this list. Remember our community motto -- Just try it, our community will support you! I don't know how our future path will evolve -- but I do know that working together, we can make the future happen. Think about the future as an asset -- rather than an unknown entity. With this knowledge -- we can do the magic :-) Gee -- we live in exciting times. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Very inspirational, Wayne. So, let's get those signatures, from the membership institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission, coming in. Where do WE start? :) Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie, WE commend your example of sharing -- without this culture of gifting, humanity looses its reason for existence. Much of our work in general and that of WikiEducator in particular has been inspired by Mahatma Gandhi -- as Gandhi said: Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man [woman] whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him [her]. Will he [she] gain anything by it? Will it restore him [her] to a control over his [her] own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to swaraj [freedom] for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away. The OER Foundation is committed to finding ways of realising Gandhi's vision through open education -- with the help of all WikiEducators, we can! For example we can encourage our institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission (less than an average business lunch in the industrial world for a standard membership). In the real world -- without money coming in (through grant funding, institutional membership contributions, government contracts etc) -- we will not have the funding to make you lead facilitator to pay those who join you as co-facilitators :-). You (and many others) in our family exemplify sharing and gifting to help WE's mission -- Thank you! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, I have been a lead facilitator for quite a few workshops and have volunteered to many more as co-facilitator in the last year. In addition, I have seen others volunteer as co-facilitators but the numbers are small and it's harder to find more than a name on the list of co-facilitators because it appears people do not have the incentive to actively engage in helping for free. To encourage others to co-facilitate, I am now sharing my pay with the co-facilitators so that I can contribute to Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. So, Wayne, I encourage you to make me a lead facilitator so I can share my pay with those who joins me as co-facilitators. I hope to encourage other members of WikiEducator to do the same. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ:
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Hi Nellie, Absolutely -- team work is the foundation of our / WE success. This is why the OER Foundation practices open philanthropy -- including the development of all our funding proposals! We can stand proud that every successful funding grant WE have received was developed openly in the wiki! Few organisations and communities can attest to that accomplishment. In this way organic teams can emerge. Next steps? I'd like our team to have marketing material, brochures etc when they're talking to folk to consider signing up. All being developed in the wiki :-) We have a community volunteer working on the development of a logo and visual identity for the OER Foundation --- this will help with the professionalism of our proposals. Any other thoughts, and ideas? Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, This is very doable so let's get started as a team because as a team WE can make a difference to all its members. Thank you. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie Good question! A good place to start is by reading the planing documents for the OER Foundation: http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Planning (and supporting FAQ's etc.) - and hey -- if these are not up to scratch, we can improve them through discussions and multiple iterations. This is our project. Let's cultivate a shared vision for the future -- the wiki way. With this knowledge -- as individuals we can inform our institutions about what we are doing and why we're doing it. We can show our institutions how to become more productive and effective using OER. For those of us working in the formal education sector, we can encourage our institutions to consider memberships --- WE are the marketing team for our WE futures! If there are questions, ideas or requests for guidance and support -- post them on this list. Remember our community motto -- Just try it, our community will support you! I don't know how our future path will evolve -- but I do know that working together, we can make the future happen. Think about the future as an asset -- rather than an unknown entity. With this knowledge -- we can do the magic :-) Gee -- we live in exciting times. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Very inspirational, Wayne. So, let's get those signatures, from the membership institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission, coming in. Where do WE start? :) Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie, WE commend your example of sharing -- without this culture of gifting, humanity looses its reason for existence. Much of our work in general and that of WikiEducator in particular has been inspired by Mahatma Gandhi -- as Gandhi said: Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man [woman] whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him [her]. Will he [she] gain anything by it? Will it restore him [her] to a control over his [her] own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to swaraj [freedom] for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away. The OER Foundation is committed to finding ways of realising Gandhi's vision through open education -- with the help of all WikiEducators, we can! For example we can encourage our institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission (less than an average business lunch in the industrial world for a standard membership). In the real world -- without money coming in (through grant funding, institutional membership contributions, government contracts etc) -- we will not have the funding to make you lead facilitator to pay those who join you as co-facilitators :-). You (and many others) in our family exemplify sharing and gifting to help WE's mission -- Thank you! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, I have been a lead facilitator for quite a few workshops and have volunteered to many more as co-facilitator in the last year. In addition, I have seen others
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Hi All, I think this is important stuff - and we need it on the wiki - so, I've posted it in this namespace: http://www.wikieducator.org/OERF:Financial_Sustainability Wayne, I'm still having trouble with the OERF_nav templatewhy's that? - Randy On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER sites. The OER Foundation will generate income and support from multiple sources, including: - Grant funding (from international donor agencies and international development agencies). For example, strategic projects currently funded by the Hewlett Foundation and the financial contribution from the Commonwealth of Learning to help pay for the hosting of our servers. - Institutional membership contributions from tertiary education institutions. We have a range of different membership categories ranging from a base line membership - to bronze, silver, gold and platinum membership levels. ( http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Join#Table_of_OERF_membership_benefits_-_Detailed_Comparison) . Each membership category provides a range of benefits and services. As a global project it is possible for the OER Foundation to design a model whereby the dollar value of services exceeds the cost of voluntary membership contributions :-) - Voluntary public donations -- WE will implement a donation button on our site for people who would like to support our international work. Every year we will run a global donation campaign with the first campaign scheduled for February / March 2010. - Government and corporate contracts, for example the work we are doing for the Ministry of Education in New Zealand to establish a national OER commons for New Zealand teachers. (see: http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ_News ) WikiEducator has extensive reach in the developing world and we recognise that many organisations may not have the money to become contributing members. Therefore we have a special category of membership called FTE4WikiEducator Members. These organisations will allocate dedicated staff time and the OER Foundation will seek to find sponsorship from platinum members and the international donor community to assist in covering the costs of membership. As you know, the OER Foundation subscribes to open philanthropy which means that all our planning documents are developed openly and transparently in the wiki :-). If you're interested you can review our strategic plans here: http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Planning OER is a sustainable and renewable resource -- and working together on an international scale we can achieve more than working alone! WE are about to start our recruitment drive for founding members. Any organisation who becomes a contributing member before 30 June 2009 will be recognised as a founding member. This is an opportunity for organisations to make the future happen and be recorded in history of transforming education for the better. So spread the word, blog about what we're doing and we will be able to tell our grandchildren how WE nurtured and succeeded in building a sustainable OER ecosystem. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 Wong Leo leolao...@gmail.com http://www.hudong.com/ is a wiki software are getting quite strong lately in China ,where a lot of Chinese educator there to share and talk , I am wondering if there is possiblity for wikieducator to make money in the future ? or how for a OER turned into a a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_entrepreneurship ??( now China have unblocked the Wikipedia for many months ) I would like to know your idea Leo -- Leo Wong -- http://helpsuzhou.blogbus.com/ HELP There is something very special and powerful about engaging directly with the real teacher and real Kids -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
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Thank you, Randy. I added the OER Nav. It was a question of caps on the N. I hope that's what you wanted. If not, you can always delete it. Do you want to add financial sustainability to the template? Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I think this is important stuff - and we need it on the wiki - so, I've posted it in this namespace: http://www.wikieducator.org/OERF:Financial_Sustainability Wayne, I'm still having trouble with the OERF_nav templatewhy's that? - Randy On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER sites. The OER Foundation will generate income and support from multiple sources, including: - Grant funding (from international donor agencies and international development agencies). For example, strategic projects currently funded by the Hewlett Foundation and the financial contribution from the Commonwealth of Learning to help pay for the hosting of our servers. - Institutional membership contributions from tertiary education institutions. We have a range of different membership categories ranging from a base line membership - to bronze, silver, gold and platinum membership levels. ( http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Join#Table_of_OERF_membership_benefits_-_Detailed_Comparison) . Each membership category provides a range of benefits and services. As a global project it is possible for the OER Foundation to design a model whereby the dollar value of services exceeds the cost of voluntary membership contributions :-) - Voluntary public donations -- WE will implement a donation button on our site for people who would like to support our international work. Every year we will run a global donation campaign with the first campaign scheduled for February / March 2010. - Government and corporate contracts, for example the work we are doing for the Ministry of Education in New Zealand to establish a national OER commons for New Zealand teachers. (see: http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ_News ) WikiEducator has extensive reach in the developing world and we recognise that many organisations may not have the money to become contributing members. Therefore we have a special category of membership called FTE4WikiEducator Members. These organisations will allocate dedicated staff time and the OER Foundation will seek to find sponsorship from platinum members and the international donor community to assist in covering the costs of membership. As you know, the OER Foundation subscribes to open philanthropy which means that all our planning documents are developed openly and transparently in the wiki :-). If you're interested you can review our strategic plans here: http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Planning OER is a sustainable and renewable resource -- and working together on an international scale we can achieve more than working alone! WE are about to start our recruitment drive for founding members. Any organisation who becomes a contributing member before 30 June 2009 will be recognised as a founding member. This is an opportunity for organisations to make the future happen and be recorded in history of transforming education for the better. So spread the word, blog about what we're doing and we will be able to tell our grandchildren how WE nurtured and succeeded in building a sustainable OER ecosystem. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 Wong Leo leolao...@gmail.com http://www.hudong.com/ is a wiki software
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I don't have much time to contribute especially now at the end of the semester, but I am pretty good at budgeting,fund raising, and things andcould add some of the brainpower we have around SUNY/Empire State's Center for Distance Learning. The institution can't contribute money right now but links to brains (and perhaps our grants office might be somewhat useful, right?) Joyce McKnight, SUNY Empire State CollegeNELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.comSent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/17/2009 12:00 AM PSTPlease respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Very inspirational, Wayne. So, let's get those signatures, from the membership institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission, coming in. Where do WE start? :)Warm wishes,Nellie DeutschSharing is Caring!Doctoral StudentEducational LeadershipCurriculum and InstructionIntegrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pdGet ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/WorkshopsOn Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Nellie,WE commend your example of sharing -- without this culture of gifting, humanity looses its reason for existence.Much of our work in general and that of WikiEducator in particular has been inspired by Mahatma Gandhi -- as Gandhi said:Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man [woman] whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him [her]. Will he [she] gain anything by it? Will it restore him [her] to a control over his [her] own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to swaraj [freedom] for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away.The OER Foundation is committed to finding ways of realising Gandhi's vision through open education -- with the help of all WikiEducators, we can! For example we can encourage our institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission (less than an average business lunch in the industrial world for a standard membership). In the real world -- without money coming in (through grant funding, institutional membership contributions, government contracts etc) -- we will not have the funding to make you lead facilitator to pay those who join you as co-facilitators :-).You (and many others) in our family exemplify sharing and gifting to help WE's mission -- Thank you!CheersWayne2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.comWayne,I have been a lead facilitator for quite a few workshops and have volunteered to many more as co-facilitator in the last year. In addition, I have seen others volunteer as co-facilitators but the numbers are small and it's harder to find more than a name on the list of co-facilitators because it appears people do not have the incentive to actively engage in helping for free. To encourage others to co-facilitate, I am now sharing my pay with the co-facilitators so that I can contribute to Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. So, Wayne, I encourage you to make me a lead facilitator so I can share my pay with those who joins me as co-facilitators. I hope to encourage other members of WikiEducator to do the same. Warm wishes,Nellie DeutschSharing is Caring!Doctoral StudentEducational LeadershipCurriculum and InstructionIntegrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pdGet ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/WorkshopsOn Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Nellie, I agree -- Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights states:Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.This is one of the prime reasons the OER Foundation subscribes to the free cultural works definition to respect the rights and freedom of individuals to earn a living from OER. Since the inception of WikiEducator and the Learning4Content project -- to date with generous funding support from the Hewlett Foundation the Commonwealth of Learning we have paid a facilitators fee for the lead facilitator of each workshop. We are also very fortunate because many WikiEducators have volunteered and gifted their time as co-facilitators (which we do not remunerate due to funding constraints.) I am proud to see so many of our L4C facilitators who volunteer their time to support other workshops as co-facilitators when they're not being paid as lead facilitator.As Wikieducator grows and prepares
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Hi Joyce, All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists of institutions of who we might like to approach for prospective memberships and keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedback etc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-) Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important for us -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity in partnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of us in the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than we contribute. You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated with modern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration in OER. That's a good point. We are also planning to cover the research mission through the launch of WikiResearcher.org in the near future :-) These are exciting times and WE're most appreciate of your advice and guidance in helping us make OER futures happen. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.edu Idea: How about making a list (if you don't already have one of well-established distance education institutions that we especially want to have as partners and develop a strategy for courting them. In the US the Pennsylvania State University World Campus and the University of Maryland would be two in addition, of course, to SUNY/Empire State College I am sure there are many others worldwide. In the US public universities have a research, teaching, and public service as the three legs of the mission. Wikieducator with its focus on the developing world (and for that matter peripheral areas of the so called developed world) clearly would be within the public service mission of these organizations. Within the institutional level, you might want to identify and court folks who share your Gandhian views. You have certainly hooked me that way. :-) All the best. Joyce McKnight, SUNY/Empire State College -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 User Page: http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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The research arm is a great idea. Will you be working with Athabasca on that? SUNY/Empire State College has close connections there both institutionally and personally with Terry Anderson. We are also seeking to increase our research publications especially in adult and online learning (and education) and are in the process of trying to launch a Master's of Arts in Adult Learning that will have strong social justice and online components. My own leaning is toward a Gandhian approach so philosophically it is a perfect match for me and for many others here as well. This is deeply exciting to me. Joyce McKnightWayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.comSent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/18/2009 10:13 AM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce,All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists of institutions of who we might like to approach for prospective memberships and keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedback etc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-)Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important for us -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity in partnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of us in the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than we contribute.You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated with modern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration in OER. That's a good point. We are also planning to cover the research mission through the launch of WikiResearcher.org in the near future :-)These are exciting times and WE're most appreciate of your advice and guidance in helping us make OER futures happen.CheersWayne2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.eduIdea: How about making a list (if you don't already have one of well-established distance education institutions that we especially want to have as partners and develop a strategy for courting them. In the US the Pennsylvania State University World Campus and the University of Maryland would be two in addition, of course, to SUNY/Empire State College I am sure there are many others worldwide. In the US public universities have a research, teaching, and public service as the three legs of the mission. Wikieducator with its focus on the developing world (and for that matter peripheral areas of the so called developed world) clearly would be within the public service mission of these organizations. Within the institutional level, you might want to identify and court folks who share your Gandhian views. You have certainly hooked me that way. :-) All the best. Joyce McKnight, SUNY/Empire State College -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups WikiEducator group.To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.orgTo visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducatorTo post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.comTo unsubscribe from this group, send email towikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.Director,International Centre for Open Education,Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.Board of Directors, OER Foundation.Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380User Page: http://wikieducator.org/User:MackiwgSkype: WGMNZ1Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups WikiEducator group.To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.orgTo visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducatorTo post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.comTo unsubscribe from this group, send email towikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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Hi Ed, That will be most helpful - also, it would be great if others in our community apply to these granting institutions / organizations, and include an open education component - i.e., hosting the content on WikiEducator.), and writing the proposal on WE - see: www.wikieducator.org/Open_Philanthropy. If they're successful, we'd hope they would become members of the OER Foundation. smile Good luck with your move Ed - I've just gone through one, so I'm sending you my best wishes. - Randy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: There are numerous sources for large amounts of education grant funding springing up, some of it specifically targeted for electronic learning materials, and some for educational innovation. I don't have time to list them today, because I am moving from California to Indiana, but I can provide them after I get reconnected there. The US Dept. of Education is the biggest source. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 19:21, Wong Leo leolao...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.hudong.com/ is a wiki software are getting quite strong lately in China ,where a lot of Chinese educator there to share and talk , I am wondering if there is possiblity for wikieducator to make money in the future ? or how for a OER turned into a a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_entrepreneurship ??( now China have unblocked the Wikipedia for many months ) I would like to know your idea Leo -- Leo Wong -- http://helpsuzhou.blogbus.com/ HELP There is something very special and powerful about engaging directly with the real teacher and real Kids -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant, Organization Development, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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All of those are great ideas Randy. Joyce McKnightRandy Fisher wikira...@gmail.comSent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/17/2009 06:39 PMPlease respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Ed,That will be most helpful - also, it would be great if others in our community apply to these granting institutions / organizations, and include an open education component - i.e., hosting the content on WikiEducator.), and writing the proposal on WE - see: www.wikieducator.org/Open_Philanthropy. If they're successful, we'd hope they would become members of the OER Foundation. smileGood luck with your move Ed - I've just gone through one, so I'm sending you my best wishes.- RandyOn Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote:There are numerous sources for large amounts of education grantfunding springing up, some of it specifically targeted for electroniclearning materials, and some for educational innovation. I don't havetime to list them today, because I am moving from California toIndiana, but I can provide them after I get reconnected there. The USDept. of Education is the biggest source.On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 19:21, Wong Leo leolao...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.hudong.com/is a wiki software are getting quite strong lately in China ,where a lot of Chinese educator there to share andtalk , I am wondering if there is possiblity for wikieducator to make money in the future ? or how for a OER turned into a a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_entrepreneurship??( now China have unblocked the Wikipedia for many months ) I would like to know your idea Leo -- Leo Wong -- http://helpsuzhou.blogbus.com/ HELP There is something very special and powerful about engaging directly with the real teacher and real Kids -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com--Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) CherlinSilent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.http://www.earthtreasury.org/--You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups WikiEducator group.To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.orgTo visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducatorTo post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.comTo unsubscribe from this group, send email towikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com-- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource.Randy Fisher, MA, OMDSenior Consultant, Organization Development, Intersol Group, CanadaSenior Consultant, Organization Business DevelopmentInternational Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New ZealandElected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST)Skype: wikirandyTwitter: wikirandy* Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance* Organization Design Development* Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building* E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice* Coaching Facilitation * My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups WikiEducator group.To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.orgTo visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducatorTo post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.comTo unsubscribe from this group, send email towikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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Hi Joyce, The answer is 'yes' - I've spoken with Rory (Terry's colleague), and he's definitely interested. Athabasca is hosting our servers, so there's a number of points of mutual interest. I've had some conversations with folks about WikiResearcher, and there's a nice cluster beginning to form - could you sign your name here - http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:OER_Foundation/WikiResearcher Also, you might be interested, that there's a few of us who have done some research, and published it on the wiki. Peter Rawsthorne (User:Prawstho) comes to mind; Peter McCrory of the UK (User:Wikipeedy) will be writing his Master's thesis in the coming months; I gather Nellie is doing some work in her Ph.D subject; and I wrote mine on educators motivation in the open wiki environment - http://www.wikieducator.org/OMD/MPII/MP_Paper_II Of course, we'd be delighted to have you develop some research and content, on the wiki! - Randy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM, joyce.mckni...@esc.edu wrote: The research arm is a great idea. Will you be working with Athabasca on that? SUNY/Empire State College has close connections there both institutionally and personally with Terry Anderson. We are also seeking to increase our research publications especially in adult and online learning (and education) and are in the process of trying to launch a Master's of Arts in Adult Learning that will have strong social justice and online components. My own leaning is toward a Gandhian approach so philosophically it is a perfect match for me and for many others here as well. This is deeply exciting to me. Joyce McKnight *Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com* Sent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com 12/18/2009 10:13 AM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.com To wikieducator@googlegroups.com cc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNY Subject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce, All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists of institutions of who we might like to approach for prospective memberships and keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedback etc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-) Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important for us -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity in partnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of us in the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than we contribute. You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated with modern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration in OER. That's a good point. We are also planning to cover the research mission through the launch of WikiResearcher.org in the near future :-) These are exciting times and WE're most appreciate of your advice and guidance in helping us make OER futures happen. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 *joyce.mckni...@esc.edu* Idea: How about making a list (if you don't already have one of well-established distance education institutions that we especially want to have as partners and develop a strategy for courting them. In the US the Pennsylvania State University World Campus and the University of Maryland would be two in addition, of course, to SUNY/Empire State College I am sure there are many others worldwide. In the US public universities have a research, teaching, and public service as the three legs of the mission. Wikieducator with its focus on the developing world (and for that matter peripheral areas of the so called developed world) clearly would be within the public service mission of these organizations. Within the institutional level, you might want to identify and court folks who share your Gandhian views. You have certainly hooked me that way. :-) All the best. Joyce McKnight, SUNY/Empire State College -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: *http://www.wikieducator.org* To visit the discussion forum: * http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator* To post to this group, send email to *wikieduca...@googlegroups.com* To unsubscribe from this group, send email to *wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com* -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, *www.wikieducator.org* Mobile +64 21 2436 380 User Page: *http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg* Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: *http://www.wikieducator.org* To visit the discussion forum: * http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator* To post to this group, send email
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I signed up but the date didn't show for some reason. If I get the funding to go across the country, I will be presenting wikieducator and some of my own work in developing an Institute for the Support of Community Initiative that I have been describing as the 21st century follow up to the twentieth century work of several adult educators with a social justice bent at the 51st. Adult Education Research Conference in California in late May. It might be fun to develop the full paper on wikieducator together to show my adult ed colleagues what can be done...it might net us a whole small but feisty group of researchers as the AERC is rather important in the adult education world in the US. Just a thought. JoyceRandy Fisher wikira...@gmail.comSent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/17/2009 06:48 PMPlease respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc Peter McCrory petemccr...@btinternet.com, Peter Rawsthorne pe...@rawsthorne.org, NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.combcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce,The answer is 'yes' - I've spoken with Rory (Terry's colleague), and he's definitely interested. Athabasca is hosting our servers, so there's a number of points of mutual interest.I've had some conversations with folks about WikiResearcher, and there's a nice cluster beginning to form - could you sign your name here - http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:OER_Foundation/WikiResearcherAlso, you might be interested, that there's a few of us who have done some research, and published it on the wiki. Peter Rawsthorne (User:Prawstho) comes to mind; Peter McCrory of the UK (User:Wikipeedy) will be writing his Master's thesis in the coming months; I gather Nellie is doing some work in her Ph.D subject; and I wrote mine on educators motivation in the open wiki environment - http://www.wikieducator.org/OMD/MPII/MP_Paper_IIOf course, we'd be delighted to have you develop some research and content, on the wiki!- RandyOn Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM, joyce.mckni...@esc.edu wrote:The research arm is a great idea. Will you be working with Athabasca on that? SUNY/Empire State College has close connections there both institutionally and personally with Terry Anderson. We are also seeking to increase our research publications especially in adult and online learning (and education) and are in the process of trying to launch a Master's of Arts in Adult Learning that will have strong social justice and online components. My own leaning is toward a Gandhian approach so philosophically it is a perfect match for me and for many others here as well. This is deeply exciting to me. Joyce McKnightWayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.comSentby: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/18/200910:13 AM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce,All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists of institutions of who we might like to approach for prospective memberships and keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedback etc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-)Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important for us -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity in partnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of us in the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than we contribute.You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated with modern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration in OER. That's a good point. We are also planning to cover the research mission through the launch of WikiResearcher.org in the near future :-)These are exciting times and WE're most appreciate of your advice and guidance in helping us make OER futures happen.CheersWayne2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.eduIdea: How about making a list (if you don't already have one of well-established distance education institutions that we especially want to have as partners and develop a strategy for courting them. In the US the Pennsylvania State University World Campus and the University of Maryland would be two in addition, of course, to SUNY/Empire State College I am sure there are many others worldwide. In the US public universities have a research, teaching, and public service as the three legs of the mission. Wikieducator with its focus on the developing world (and for that matter peripheral areas of the so called developed world) clearly would be within the public service mission of these organizations. Within the institutional level, you might want to identify and court folks who share your Gandhian views. You have certainly hooked me that way. :-) All the best. Joyce McKnight, SUNY/Empire State College -- You received this message because you
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Hi Joyce, Following up on Randy's note --- Rory McGreal (Associate VP Research) at Athabasca University is the international representative on the OER Foundation's Board of Director's. Terry is colleague and will be visiting us in New Zealand next year for the DEANZ conference. Here is a link to AU's press release on the launch of the OER Foundation: http://www2.athabascau.ca/aboutau/news/news_item.php?newid=9 Apart from being Canada's premier online / distance teaching University -- AU is a leader in open education. Most notably, Athabasca University Press is dedicated to open access publishing -- and to the best of my knowledge, is the first university press in the world who has dedicated all its publications to open access publishing. In this way, the OER Foundation seeks to provide seamless links between teaching, research and publication using the open education model. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com Hi Joyce, The answer is 'yes' - I've spoken with Rory (Terry's colleague), and he's definitely interested. Athabasca is hosting our servers, so there's a number of points of mutual interest. I've had some conversations with folks about WikiResearcher, and there's a nice cluster beginning to form - could you sign your name here - http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:OER_Foundation/WikiResearcher Also, you might be interested, that there's a few of us who have done some research, and published it on the wiki. Peter Rawsthorne (User:Prawstho) comes to mind; Peter McCrory of the UK (User:Wikipeedy) will be writing his Master's thesis in the coming months; I gather Nellie is doing some work in her Ph.D subject; and I wrote mine on educators motivation in the open wiki environment - http://www.wikieducator.org/OMD/MPII/MP_Paper_II Of course, we'd be delighted to have you develop some research and content, on the wiki! - Randy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM, joyce.mckni...@esc.edu wrote: The research arm is a great idea. Will you be working with Athabasca on that? SUNY/Empire State College has close connections there both institutionally and personally with Terry Anderson. We are also seeking to increase our research publications especially in adult and online learning (and education) and are in the process of trying to launch a Master's of Arts in Adult Learning that will have strong social justice and online components. My own leaning is toward a Gandhian approach so philosophically it is a perfect match for me and for many others here as well. This is deeply exciting to me. Joyce McKnight *Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com* Sent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com 12/18/2009 10:13 AM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.com To wikieducator@googlegroups.com cc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNY Subject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce, All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists of institutions of who we might like to approach for prospective memberships and keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedback etc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-) Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important for us -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity in partnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of us in the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than we contribute. You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated with modern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration in OER. That's a good point. We are also planning to cover the research mission through the launch of WikiResearcher.org in the near future :-) These are exciting times and WE're most appreciate of your advice and guidance in helping us make OER futures happen. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 *joyce.mckni...@esc.edu* Idea: How about making a list (if you don't already have one of well-established distance education institutions that we especially want to have as partners and develop a strategy for courting them. In the US the Pennsylvania State University World Campus and the University of Maryland would be two in addition, of course, to SUNY/Empire State College I am sure there are many others worldwide. In the US public universities have a research, teaching, and public service as the three legs of the mission. Wikieducator with its focus on the developing world (and for that matter peripheral areas of the so called developed world) clearly would be within the public service mission of these organizations. Within the institutional level, you might want to identify and court folks who share your Gandhian views. You have certainly hooked me that way. :-) All the best. Joyce McKnight, SUNY/Empire State College -- You received this message because you are subscribed
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Hi Randy TVM for the link I will have a look a little later. Just been with the sponsors for the RAAM today, cheque in the pocket ;-) Cheers Peter McCrory T. +44 1522 514422 M. +44 7812 080853 E. petemccr...@btinternet.com Skype. peter.mccrory Twitter: @Peter_RAFUltra www.wikieducator.org/User:Wikipeedy Follow our progress in preparing for the World's Toughest Bike Race at www.raf-ultra.co.uk From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Fisher Sent: 17 December 2009 12:11 To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi All, I think this is important stuff - and we need it on the wiki - so, I've posted it in this namespace: http://www.wikieducator.org/OERF:Financial_Sustainability Wayne, I'm still having trouble with the OERF_nav templatewhy's that? - Randy On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER sites. The OER Foundation will generate income and support from multiple sources, including: * Grant funding (from international donor agencies and international development agencies). For example, strategic projects currently funded by the Hewlett Foundation and the financial contribution from the Commonwealth of Learning to help pay for the hosting of our servers. * Institutional membership contributions from tertiary education institutions. We have a range of different membership categories ranging from a base line membership - to bronze, silver, gold and platinum membership levels. (http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Join#Table_of_OERF_membership_benefits_-_Detai led_Comparison ) . Each membership category provides a range of benefits and services. As a global project it is possible for the OER Foundation to design a model whereby the dollar value of services exceeds the cost of voluntary membership contributions :-) * Voluntary public donations -- WE will implement a donation button on our site for people who would like to support our international work. Every year we will run a global donation campaign with the first campaign scheduled for February / March 2010. * Government and corporate contracts, for example the work we are doing for the Ministry of Education in New Zealand to establish a national OER commons for New Zealand teachers. (see: http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ_News ) WikiEducator has extensive reach in the developing world and we recognise that many organisations may not have the money to become contributing members. Therefore we have a special category of membership called FTE4WikiEducator Members. These organisations will allocate dedicated staff time and the OER Foundation will seek to find sponsorship from platinum members and the international donor community to assist in covering the costs of membership. As you know, the OER Foundation subscribes to open philanthropy which means that all our planning documents are developed openly and transparently in the wiki :-). If you're interested you can review our strategic plans here: http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Planning OER is a sustainable and renewable resource -- and working together on an international scale we can achieve more than working alone! WE are about to start our recruitment drive for founding members. Any organisation who becomes a contributing member before 30 June 2009 will be recognised as a founding member. This is an opportunity for organisations to make the future happen and be recorded in history of transforming education for the better. So spread the word, blog about what we're doing and we will be able to tell our grandchildren how WE nurtured and succeeded in building a sustainable OER ecosystem. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 Wong Leo leolao...@gmail.com http://www.hudong.com/ is a wiki software are getting quite strong lately in China ,where a lot of Chinese educator there to share
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Hi Edward, Thanks for those pointers --- As you know, the OER Foundation is committed to open philanthropy including the development of all our funding proposals as free content :-). The power of the open model when focused on grant funding for the development of open technologies and free content is the fact that it doesn't matter who gets the funding. We all benefit by sharing the outcomes and outputs of these projects :-). The OER Foundation will gladly host and share access to all our past successful proposals --- WE have no problems with grant writers remixing and sharing components our successful proposals in building the future sustainability of open education. I wish you success with your move --- having done a few international relocations myself over the past couple of years --- I'm pleased to be back home again. Still have one more move to tackle from our temporary rental to our new home. Not looking forward to the big pack :-(. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com There are numerous sources for large amounts of education grant funding springing up, some of it specifically targeted for electronic learning materials, and some for educational innovation. I don't have time to list them today, because I am moving from California to Indiana, but I can provide them after I get reconnected there. The US Dept. of Education is the biggest source. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 19:21, Wong Leo leolao...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.hudong.com/ is a wiki software are getting quite strong lately in China ,where a lot of Chinese educator there to share and talk , I am wondering if there is possiblity for wikieducator to make money in the future ? or how for a OER turned into a a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_entrepreneurship ??( now China have unblocked the Wikipedia for many months ) I would like to know your idea Leo -- Leo Wong -- http://helpsuzhou.blogbus.com/ HELP There is something very special and powerful about engaging directly with the real teacher and real Kids -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 User Page: http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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Hi Joyce, With reference to your new MA in Adult Learning -- you may be interested in a project we will be moving forward in the new year. The OER Foundation will be co-coordinating and facilitating the development (and remix of available materials) for a graduate level course on OER. The idea is for individual organisations to get the necessary approvals for an OER elective in their respective degree and/or graduate certificate courses. We will collaborate on the development and remix of learning resources which can be used for the OER elective. These core materials on OER will be licensed under a free cultural works approved license. Athabasca University, Massey University (here in New Zealand), Otago Polytechnic and BYU have indicated a strong interest in getting the local certifications and approvals in place for a graduate OER elective. There are other institutions who have expressed interest -- but are still to confirm participation. Perhaps SUNY/Empire State College would like to join us on this adventure :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.edu The research arm is a great idea. Will you be working with Athabasca on that? SUNY/Empire State College has close connections there both institutionally and personally with Terry Anderson. We are also seeking to increase our research publications especially in adult and online learning (and education) and are in the process of trying to launch a Master's of Arts in Adult Learning that will have strong social justice and online components. My own leaning is toward a Gandhian approach so philosophically it is a perfect match for me and for many others here as well. This is deeply exciting to me. Joyce McKnight *Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com* Sent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com 12/18/2009 10:13 AM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.com To wikieducator@googlegroups.com cc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNY Subject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce, All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists of institutions of who we might like to approach for prospective memberships and keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedback etc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-) Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important for us -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity in partnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of us in the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than we contribute. You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated with modern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration in OER. That's a good point. We are also planning to cover the research mission through the launch of WikiResearcher.org in the near future :-) These are exciting times and WE're most appreciate of your advice and guidance in helping us make OER futures happen. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 *joyce.mckni...@esc.edu* Idea: How about making a list (if you don't already have one of well-established distance education institutions that we especially want to have as partners and develop a strategy for courting them. In the US the Pennsylvania State University World Campus and the University of Maryland would be two in addition, of course, to SUNY/Empire State College I am sure there are many others worldwide. In the US public universities have a research, teaching, and public service as the three legs of the mission. Wikieducator with its focus on the developing world (and for that matter peripheral areas of the so called developed world) clearly would be within the public service mission of these organizations. Within the institutional level, you might want to identify and court folks who share your Gandhian views. You have certainly hooked me that way. :-) All the best. Joyce McKnight, SUNY/Empire State College -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: *http://www.wikieducator.org* To visit the discussion forum: * http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator* To post to this group, send email to *wikieduca...@googlegroups.com* To unsubscribe from this group, send email to *wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com* -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, *www.wikieducator.org* Mobile +64 21 2436 380 User Page: *http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg* Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: *http://www.wikieducator.org* To visit the discussion forum: * http
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Yes sir. In fact we are in the process of developing our graduate curriculum right now in preparation for applying to the Department of Education of the State of New York for certification. I am part of the team creating the program and will suggest that we offer this course as a part of our curriculum. I have already suggested something similar. J.Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.comSent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/18/2009 05:12 PM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce,With reference to your new MA in Adult Learning -- you may be interested in a project we will be moving forward in the new year.The OER Foundation will be co-coordinating and facilitating the development (and remix of available materials) for a graduate level course on OER. The idea is for individual organisations to get the necessary approvals for an OER elective in their respective degree and/or graduate certificate courses. We will collaborate on the development and remix of learning resources which can be used for the OER elective. These core materials on OER will be licensed under a free cultural works approved license. Athabasca University, Massey University (here in New Zealand), Otago Polytechnic and BYU have indicated a strong interest in getting the local certifications and approvals in place for a graduate OER elective. There are other institutions who have expressed interest -- but are still to confirm participation. Perhaps SUNY/Empire State College would like to join us on this adventure :-)CheersWayne2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.eduThe research arm is a great idea. Will you be working with Athabasca on that? SUNY/Empire State College has close connections there both institutionally and personally with Terry Anderson. We are also seeking to increase our research publications especially in adult and online learning (and education) and are in the process of trying to launch a Master's of Arts in Adult Learning that will have strong social justice and online components. My own leaning is toward a Gandhian approach so philosophically it is a perfect match for me and for many others here as well. This is deeply exciting to me. Joyce McKnightWayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.comSentby: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/18/200910:13 AM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce,All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists of institutions of who we might like to approach for prospective memberships and keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedback etc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-)Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important for us -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity in partnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of us in the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than we contribute.You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated with modern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration in OER. That's a good point. We are also planning to cover the research mission through the launch of WikiResearcher.org in the near future :-)These are exciting times and WE're most appreciate of your advice and guidance in helping us make OER futures happen.CheersWayne2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.eduIdea: How about making a list (if you don't already have one of well-established distance education institutions that we especially want to have as partners and develop a strategy for courting them. In the US the Pennsylvania State University World Campus and the University of Maryland would be two in addition, of course, to SUNY/Empire State College I am sure there are many others worldwide. In the US public universities have a research, teaching, and public service as the three legs of the mission. Wikieducator with its focus on the developing world (and for that matter peripheral areas of the so called developed world) clearly would be within the public service mission of these organizations. Within the institutional level, you might want to identify and court folks who share your Gandhian views. You have certainly hooked me that way. :-) All the best. Joyce McKnight, SUNY/Empire State College -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups WikiEducator group.To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.orgTo visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducatorTo post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.comTo unsubscribe from this group, send email towikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.Director,International Centre for Open Education
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Will your curriculum cover adult education in the US only, or will you take a wider view? I have done some work on adult literacy, and there are many other such issues. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 21:57, joyce.mckni...@esc.edu wrote: Yes sir. In fact we are in the process of developing our graduate curriculum right now in preparation for applying to the Department of Education of the State of New York for certification. I am part of the team creating the program and will suggest that we offer this course as a part of our curriculum. I have already suggested something similar. J. Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Sent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com 12/18/2009 05:12 PM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.com To wikieducator@googlegroups.com cc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNY Subject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce, With reference to your new MA in Adult Learning -- you may be interested in a project we will be moving forward in the new year. The OER Foundation will be co-coordinating and facilitating the development (and remix of available materials) for a graduate level course on OER. The idea is for individual organisations to get the necessary approvals for an OER elective in their respective degree and/or graduate certificate courses. We will collaborate on the development and remix of learning resources which can be used for the OER elective. These core materials on OER will be licensed under a free cultural works approved license. Athabasca University, Massey University (here in New Zealand), Otago Polytechnic and BYU have indicated a strong interest in getting the local certifications and approvals in place for a graduate OER elective. There are other institutions who have expressed interest -- but are still to confirm participation. Perhaps SUNY/Empire State College would like to join us on this adventure :-) Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.edu The research arm is a great idea. Will you be working with Athabasca on that? SUNY/Empire State College has close connections there both institutionally and personally with Terry Anderson. We are also seeking to increase our research publications especially in adult and online learning (and education) and are in the process of trying to launch a Master's of Arts in Adult Learning that will have strong social justice and online components. My own leaning is toward a Gandhian approach so philosophically it is a perfect match for me and for many others here as well. This is deeply exciting to me. Joyce McKnight Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com Sent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com 12/18/2009 10:13 AM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.com To wikieducator@googlegroups.com cc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNY Subject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Hi Joyce, All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists of institutions of who we might like to approach for prospective memberships and keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedback etc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-) Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important for us -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity in partnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of us in the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than we contribute. You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated with modern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration in OER. That's a good point. We are also planning to cover the research mission through the launch of WikiResearcher.org in the near future :-) These are exciting times and WE're most appreciate of your advice and guidance in helping us make OER futures happen. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.edu Idea: How about making a list (if you don't already have one of well-established distance education institutions that we especially want to have as partners and develop a strategy for courting them. In the US the Pennsylvania State University World Campus and the University of Maryland would be two in addition, of course, to SUNY/Empire State College I am sure there are many others worldwide. In the US public universities have a research, teaching, and public service as the three legs of the mission. Wikieducator with its focus on the developing world (and for that matter peripheral areas of the so called developed world) clearly would be within the public service mission of these organizations. Within the institutional level, you might want to identify and court folks who share your Gandhian views. You have certainly hooked me that way. :-) All the best. Joyce McKnight, SUNY/Empire State College -- You received this message because you
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It will be quite comprehensive and will include several different strands that will enable students to design their degree programs (as they can in our undergraduate programs). It does have an international stands, an online/distance learning stand, and a social justice strand (along with a human resource development thread and an adult learning/cognition strand). We think that most students will already be practitioners who want a high quality online program that can be designed around their own area of practice. We will use a praxis model. The social justice thread that I am helping to create will be largely based on Freire, Myles Horton, and Gandhi among others and will include literacy issues. The international and distance learning components will include OER. As I said, students will be able to mix and match studies under the guidance of a faculty mentor. Since we are one of the largest primarily adult serving educations in the US and have about forty years of serving adults with limited access to higher education, we anticipate that those students who do not presently have a practice site will be able to work with us in internships. (Pardon me if my terminology is shaky...it is 1 a.m. here. J. Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.comSent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/17/2009 10:00 PM PSTPlease respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comcc bcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ? Will your curriculum cover adult education in the US only, or will youtakea wider view? I have done some work on adult literacy, and therearemany other such issues.On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 21:57, joyce.mckni...@esc.edu wrote:Yes sir. In fact we are in the process of developing our graduatecurriculum right now in preparation for applying to the Department ofEducation of the State of New York for certification. I am part of theteam creating the program and will suggest that we offer this course as apart of our curriculum. I have already suggested something similar. J.Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.comSent by: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/18/2009 05:12 PM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comccbcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?Hi Joyce,With reference to your new MA in Adult Learning -- you may be interested ina project we will be moving forward in the new year.The OER Foundation will be co-coordinating and facilitating the development(and remix of available materials) for a graduate level course on OER. Theidea is for individual organisations to get the necessary approvals for anOER elective in their respective degree and/or graduate certificate courses.We will collaborate on the development and remix of learning resources whichcan be used for the OER elective. These core materials on OER will belicensed under a free cultural works approved license.Athabasca University, Massey University (here in New Zealand), OtagoPolytechnic and BYU have indicated a strong interest in getting the localcertifications and approvals in place for a graduate OER elective. There areother institutions who have expressed interest -- but are still to confirmparticipation. Perhaps SUNY/Empire State College would like to join us onthis adventure :-)CheersWayne2009/12/18 joyce.mckni...@esc.eduThe research arm is a great idea. Will you be working with Athabasca onthat? SUNY/Empire State College has close connections there bothinstitutionally and personally with Terry Anderson. We are also seeking toincrease our research publications especially in adult and online learning(and education) and are in the process of trying to launch a Master's ofArts in Adult Learning that will have strong social justice and onlinecomponents. My own leaning is toward a Gandhian approach sophilosophically it is a perfect match for me and for many others here aswell. This is deeply exciting to me. Joyce McKnightWayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.comSentby: wikieducator@googlegroups.com12/18/200910:13 AM ZE12Please respond towikieduca...@googlegroups.comTo wikieducator@googlegroups.comccbcc Joyce McKnight/SUNYSubject Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?Hi Joyce,All excellent suggestions --- We will definitely be using making lists ofinstitutions of who we might like to approach for prospective membershipsand keep track of our progress in terms of who we've contacted, feedbacketc. Using an open philanthropy model -- this is easily done :-)Our reach and support throughout the developing world is very important forus -- WE believe that we should share knowledge freely and build capacity inpartnership with educators from around the globe. I suspect that many of usin the industrialised countries will learn and gain more than wecontribute.You're right -- the public service and outreach missions (associated withmodern universities) provides a justifiable framework for collaboration
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Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER sites. The OER Foundation will generate income and support from multiple sources, including: - Grant funding (from international donor agencies and international development agencies). For example, strategic projects currently funded by the Hewlett Foundation and the financial contribution from the Commonwealth of Learning to help pay for the hosting of our servers. - Institutional membership contributions from tertiary education institutions. We have a range of different membership categories ranging from a base line membership - to bronze, silver, gold and platinum membership levels. ( http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Join#Table_of_OERF_membership_benefits_-_Detailed_Comparison) . Each membership category provides a range of benefits and services. As a global project it is possible for the OER Foundation to design a model whereby the dollar value of services exceeds the cost of voluntary membership contributions :-) - Voluntary public donations -- WE will implement a donation button on our site for people who would like to support our international work. Every year we will run a global donation campaign with the first campaign scheduled for February / March 2010. - Government and corporate contracts, for example the work we are doing for the Ministry of Education in New Zealand to establish a national OER commons for New Zealand teachers. (see: http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ_News ) WikiEducator has extensive reach in the developing world and we recognise that many organisations may not have the money to become contributing members. Therefore we have a special category of membership called FTE4WikiEducator Members. These organisations will allocate dedicated staff time and the OER Foundation will seek to find sponsorship from platinum members and the international donor community to assist in covering the costs of membership. As you know, the OER Foundation subscribes to open philanthropy which means that all our planning documents are developed openly and transparently in the wiki :-). If you're interested you can review our strategic plans here: http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Planning OER is a sustainable and renewable resource -- and working together on an international scale we can achieve more than working alone! WE are about to start our recruitment drive for founding members. Any organisation who becomes a contributing member before 30 June 2009 will be recognised as a founding member. This is an opportunity for organisations to make the future happen and be recorded in history of transforming education for the better. So spread the word, blog about what we're doing and we will be able to tell our grandchildren how WE nurtured and succeeded in building a sustainable OER ecosystem. Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 Wong Leo leolao...@gmail.com http://www.hudong.com/ is a wiki software are getting quite strong lately in China ,where a lot of Chinese educator there to share and talk , I am wondering if there is possiblity for wikieducator to make money in the future ? or how for a OER turned into a a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_entrepreneurship ??( now China have unblocked the Wikipedia for many months ) I would like to know your idea Leo -- Leo Wong -- http://helpsuzhou.blogbus.com/ HELP There is something very special and powerful about engaging directly with the real teacher and real Kids -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago
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Wayne, WE volunteers are passionate about the cause but need to make a living. Money is not a dirty word and everyone who spends hours upon hours contributing to WE should get paid. I believe an incentive for teachers to contribute to WikiEducator and the development of OERs is monetary rewards. An example of this is today is the system whereby facilitators get paid for the L4C workshops. As it stands, all members would like to facilitate and get paid. I believe this was mentioned by other WE members who would also like a piece of the pie. I believe there should be a reward system for all WE members so that everyone is given the opportunity to serve the community as a facilitator of the L4C worshops and get paid. Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER sites. The OER Foundation will generate income and support from multiple sources, including: - Grant funding (from international donor agencies and international development agencies). For example, strategic projects currently funded by the Hewlett Foundation and the financial contribution from the Commonwealth of Learning to help pay for the hosting of our servers. - Institutional membership contributions from tertiary education institutions. We have a range of different membership categories ranging from a base line membership - to bronze, silver, gold and platinum membership levels. ( http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Join#Table_of_OERF_membership_benefits_-_Detailed_Comparison) . Each membership category provides a range of benefits and services. As a global project it is possible for the OER Foundation to design a model whereby the dollar value of services exceeds the cost of voluntary membership contributions :-) - Voluntary public donations -- WE will implement a donation button on our site for people who would like to support our international work. Every year we will run a global donation campaign with the first campaign scheduled for February / March 2010. - Government and corporate contracts, for example the work we are doing for the Ministry of Education in New Zealand to establish a national OER commons for New Zealand teachers. (see: http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ_News ) WikiEducator has extensive reach in the developing world and we recognise that many organisations may not have the money to become contributing members. Therefore we have a special category of membership called FTE4WikiEducator Members. These organisations will allocate dedicated staff time and the OER Foundation will seek to find sponsorship from platinum members and the international donor community to assist in covering the costs of membership. As you know, the OER Foundation subscribes to open philanthropy which means that all our planning documents are developed openly and transparently in the wiki :-). If you're interested you can review our strategic plans here: http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Planning OER is a sustainable and renewable resource -- and working together on an international scale we can achieve more than working alone! WE are about to start our recruitment drive for founding members. Any organisation who becomes a contributing member before 30 June 2009 will be recognised as a founding member. This is an opportunity for organisations to make the future happen and be recorded in history of transforming education for the better. So spread the word, blog about what we're doing and we will be able to tell our grandchildren how WE nurtured
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Hey ,welll , Nellie , I doubt that we could pay for teachers to blog or to write on wiki , so I would invite us to think aloud on this topic What we do here in China is we have a teacher wiki project going on now , the link is here http://xinzhishe.hudong.com/jiaoshi/ YOu can view teacher picture Hudong pay for abt 1000 yuan per teacher ,however on the condition that the teacher need to contribute a certain amount of content in the wiki like 5000 less plans or traning 50 teachers in his or her school to use wiki ( however Hdwiki is not based on Mediawiki , as far as I know , Jim Wels ( Founder of Wikipedia ? ) have paid a visit to HD wiki and talking abt working together to create a Chinese content based Wikipedia . Leo 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, WE volunteers are passionate about the cause but need to make a living. Money is not a dirty word and everyone who spends hours upon hours contributing to WE should get paid. I believe an incentive for teachers to contribute to WikiEducator and the development of OERs is monetary rewards. An example of this is today is the system whereby facilitators get paid for the L4C workshops. As it stands, all members would like to facilitate and get paid. I believe this was mentioned by other WE members who would also like a piece of the pie. I believe there should be a reward system for all WE members so that everyone is given the opportunity to serve the community as a facilitator of the L4C worshops and get paid. Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER sites. The OER Foundation will generate income and support from multiple sources, including: - Grant funding (from international donor agencies and international development agencies). For example, strategic projects currently funded by the Hewlett Foundation and the financial contribution from the Commonwealth of Learning to help pay for the hosting of our servers. - Institutional membership contributions from tertiary education institutions. We have a range of different membership categories ranging from a base line membership - to bronze, silver, gold and platinum membership levels. ( http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Join#Table_of_OERF_membership_benefits_-_Detailed_Comparison) . Each membership category provides a range of benefits and services. As a global project it is possible for the OER Foundation to design a model whereby the dollar value of services exceeds the cost of voluntary membership contributions :-) - Voluntary public donations -- WE will implement a donation button on our site for people who would like to support our international work. Every year we will run a global donation campaign with the first campaign scheduled for February / March 2010. - Government and corporate contracts, for example the work we are doing for the Ministry of Education in New Zealand to establish a national OER commons for New Zealand teachers. (see: http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ_News ) WikiEducator has extensive reach in the developing world and we recognise that many organisations may not have the money to become contributing members. Therefore we have a special category of membership called FTE4WikiEducator Members. These organisations will allocate dedicated staff time and the OER Foundation will seek to find sponsorship from platinum members and the international donor community to assist in covering the costs of membership. As you know,
Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?
Wong, Thank you for sharing the information. That's sounds like a fair deal. When I wrote WE, I meant WikiEducator. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Wong Leo leolao...@gmail.com wrote: Hey ,welll , Nellie , I doubt that we could pay for teachers to blog or to write on wiki , so I would invite us to think aloud on this topic What we do here in China is we have a teacher wiki project going on now , the link is here http://xinzhishe.hudong.com/jiaoshi/ YOu can view teacher picture Hudong pay for abt 1000 yuan per teacher ,however on the condition that the teacher need to contribute a certain amount of content in the wiki like 5000 less plans or traning 50 teachers in his or her school to use wiki ( however Hdwiki is not based on Mediawiki , as far as I know , Jim Wels ( Founder of Wikipedia ? ) have paid a visit to HD wiki and talking abt working together to create a Chinese content based Wikipedia . Leo 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, WE volunteers are passionate about the cause but need to make a living. Money is not a dirty word and everyone who spends hours upon hours contributing to WE should get paid. I believe an incentive for teachers to contribute to WikiEducator and the development of OERs is monetary rewards. An example of this is today is the system whereby facilitators get paid for the L4C workshops. As it stands, all members would like to facilitate and get paid. I believe this was mentioned by other WE members who would also like a piece of the pie. I believe there should be a reward system for all WE members so that everyone is given the opportunity to serve the community as a facilitator of the L4C worshops and get paid. Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER sites. The OER Foundation will generate income and support from multiple sources, including: - Grant funding (from international donor agencies and international development agencies). For example, strategic projects currently funded by the Hewlett Foundation and the financial contribution from the Commonwealth of Learning to help pay for the hosting of our servers. - Institutional membership contributions from tertiary education institutions. We have a range of different membership categories ranging from a base line membership - to bronze, silver, gold and platinum membership levels. ( http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Join#Table_of_OERF_membership_benefits_-_Detailed_Comparison) . Each membership category provides a range of benefits and services. As a global project it is possible for the OER Foundation to design a model whereby the dollar value of services exceeds the cost of voluntary membership contributions :-) - Voluntary public donations -- WE will implement a donation button on our site for people who would like to support our international work. Every year we will run a global donation campaign with the first campaign scheduled for February / March 2010. - Government and corporate contracts, for example the work we are doing for the Ministry of Education in New Zealand to establish a national OER
Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?
Hi Nellie, I agree -- Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. This is one of the prime reasons the OER Foundation subscribes to the free cultural works definition to respect the rights and freedom of individuals to earn a living from OER. Since the inception of WikiEducator and the Learning4Content project -- to date with generous funding support from the Hewlett Foundation the Commonwealth of Learning we have paid a facilitators fee for the lead facilitator of each workshop. We are also very fortunate because many WikiEducators have volunteered and gifted their time as co-facilitators (which we do not remunerate due to funding constraints.) I am proud to see so many of our L4C facilitators who volunteer their time to support other workshops as co-facilitators when they're not being paid as lead facilitator. As Wikieducator grows and prepares for scaling-up and building a sustainable OER ecosystem there will be more opportunities for us to honour Article 23 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights :-). Working together we will achieve these aims and every WikiEducator will be able to contribute to our future success in a variety of roles. Lets make the future happen! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, WE volunteers are passionate about the cause but need to make a living. Money is not a dirty word and everyone who spends hours upon hours contributing to WE should get paid. I believe an incentive for teachers to contribute to WikiEducator and the development of OERs is monetary rewards. An example of this is today is the system whereby facilitators get paid for the L4C workshops. As it stands, all members would like to facilitate and get paid. I believe this was mentioned by other WE members who would also like a piece of the pie. I believe there should be a reward system for all WE members so that everyone is given the opportunity to serve the community as a facilitator of the L4C worshops and get paid. Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER sites. The OER Foundation will generate income and support from multiple sources, including: - Grant funding (from international donor agencies and international development agencies). For example, strategic projects currently funded by the Hewlett Foundation and the financial contribution from the Commonwealth of Learning to help pay for the hosting of our servers. - Institutional membership contributions from tertiary education institutions. We have a range of different membership categories ranging from a base line membership - to bronze, silver, gold and platinum membership levels. ( http://wikieducator.org/OERF:Join#Table_of_OERF_membership_benefits_-_Detailed_Comparison) . Each membership category provides a range of benefits and services. As a global project it is possible for the OER Foundation to design a model whereby the dollar value of services exceeds the cost of voluntary membership contributions :-) - Voluntary public donations -- WE will implement a donation button on our site for people who would like to support our international work. Every year we will run a global donation campaign with the first campaign scheduled for
Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?
Wayne, I have been a lead facilitator for quite a few workshops and have volunteered to many more as co-facilitator in the last year. In addition, I have seen others volunteer as co-facilitators but the numbers are small and it's harder to find more than a name on the list of co-facilitators because it appears people do not have the incentive to actively engage in helping for free. To encourage others to co-facilitate, I am now sharing my pay with the co-facilitators so that I can contribute to Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. So, Wayne, I encourage you to make me a lead facilitator so I can share my pay with those who joins me as co-facilitators. I hope to encourage other members of WikiEducator to do the same. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie, I agree -- Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. This is one of the prime reasons the OER Foundation subscribes to the free cultural works definition to respect the rights and freedom of individuals to earn a living from OER. Since the inception of WikiEducator and the Learning4Content project -- to date with generous funding support from the Hewlett Foundation the Commonwealth of Learning we have paid a facilitators fee for the lead facilitator of each workshop. We are also very fortunate because many WikiEducators have volunteered and gifted their time as co-facilitators (which we do not remunerate due to funding constraints.) I am proud to see so many of our L4C facilitators who volunteer their time to support other workshops as co-facilitators when they're not being paid as lead facilitator. As Wikieducator grows and prepares for scaling-up and building a sustainable OER ecosystem there will be more opportunities for us to honour Article 23 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights :-). Working together we will achieve these aims and every WikiEducator will be able to contribute to our future success in a variety of roles. Lets make the future happen! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, WE volunteers are passionate about the cause but need to make a living. Money is not a dirty word and everyone who spends hours upon hours contributing to WE should get paid. I believe an incentive for teachers to contribute to WikiEducator and the development of OERs is monetary rewards. An example of this is today is the system whereby facilitators get paid for the L4C workshops. As it stands, all members would like to facilitate and get paid. I believe this was mentioned by other WE members who would also like a piece of the pie. I believe there should be a reward system for all WE members so that everyone is given the opportunity to serve the community as a facilitator of the L4C worshops and get paid. Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leo, that's a good question. Apology for the long email -- but lots of information to cover in answering your question. The OER Foundation is an independent non-profit organisation responsible for raising the funds to run WikiEducator.org and very soon we will also launch WikiResearcher.org :-). We need money to pay for our infrastructure, for example: hosting the servers, technical support, software development and honoraria for our facilitators so we can continue to provide free training for thousands of educators in more than 115 countries around the world. As a non-profit all surplus funds we generate will be reinvested back into the development of OER courses, open text books etc. For example we will pay authors, learning designers and multi-media experts to create OER courses and open text books which we will be free to reuse, adapt and modify. The OER Foundation will ensure that WikiEducator.org, WikiResearcher.org will not carry advertising -- so we can't raise funding through advertising revenue on our OER
Re: [WikiEducator] How wikieudcator make money ?
Hi Nellie, WE commend your example of sharing -- without this culture of gifting, humanity looses its reason for existence. Much of our work in general and that of WikiEducator in particular has been inspired by Mahatma Gandhi -- as Gandhi said: Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man [woman] whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him [her]. Will he [she] gain anything by it? Will it restore him [her] to a control over his [her] own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to swaraj [freedom] for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away. The OER Foundation is committed to finding ways of realising Gandhi's vision through open education -- with the help of all WikiEducators, we can! For example we can encourage our institutions to contribute a small sum to our mission (less than an average business lunch in the industrial world for a standard membership). In the real world -- without money coming in (through grant funding, institutional membership contributions, government contracts etc) -- we will not have the funding to make you lead facilitator to pay those who join you as co-facilitators :-). You (and many others) in our family exemplify sharing and gifting to help WE's mission -- Thank you! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, I have been a lead facilitator for quite a few workshops and have volunteered to many more as co-facilitator in the last year. In addition, I have seen others volunteer as co-facilitators but the numbers are small and it's harder to find more than a name on the list of co-facilitators because it appears people do not have the incentive to actively engage in helping for free. To encourage others to co-facilitate, I am now sharing my pay with the co-facilitators so that I can contribute to Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. So, Wayne, I encourage you to make me a lead facilitator so I can share my pay with those who joins me as co-facilitators. I hope to encourage other members of WikiEducator to do the same. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nellie, I agree -- Article 23(3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. This is one of the prime reasons the OER Foundation subscribes to the free cultural works definition to respect the rights and freedom of individuals to earn a living from OER. Since the inception of WikiEducator and the Learning4Content project -- to date with generous funding support from the Hewlett Foundation the Commonwealth of Learning we have paid a facilitators fee for the lead facilitator of each workshop. We are also very fortunate because many WikiEducators have volunteered and gifted their time as co-facilitators (which we do not remunerate due to funding constraints.) I am proud to see so many of our L4C facilitators who volunteer their time to support other workshops as co-facilitators when they're not being paid as lead facilitator. As Wikieducator grows and prepares for scaling-up and building a sustainable OER ecosystem there will be more opportunities for us to honour Article 23 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights :-). Working together we will achieve these aims and every WikiEducator will be able to contribute to our future success in a variety of roles. Lets make the future happen! Cheers Wayne 2009/12/17 NELLIE DEUTSCH nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com Wayne, WE volunteers are passionate about the cause but need to make a living. Money is not a dirty word and everyone who spends hours upon hours contributing to WE should get paid. I believe an incentive for teachers to contribute to WikiEducator and the development of OERs is monetary rewards. An example of this is today is the system whereby facilitators get paid for the L4C workshops. As it stands, all members would like to facilitate and get paid. I believe this was mentioned by other WE members who would also like a piece of the pie. I believe there should be a reward system for all WE members so that everyone is given the opportunity to serve the community as a facilitator of the L4C worshops and get paid. Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring!
