[WikiEN-l] Coming soon to a wiki near you: Meet a Wikipedian or staff!
Ladies and Gentlemen: Beginning Wednesday (August 1st), two-way communication between English Wikipedia editors and Wikipedia Education Program staff in the San Francisco office will no longer need to be directed through a middle-man anymore for translation. I encourage anyone of either party needing to communicate to the other party to check out the new Google Translate option that translates between WMFese English and Wikipedian English. I’d like to thank everyone I’ve worked with and around who has helped make this one of the most enjoyable jobs I’ve ever worked. I’ve had a wonderful time working with the amazing folks at the Foundation on the United States, Canada, and India Education Programs, as well as with the other community liaisons. I’ve never had the opportunity to work in such a cheerful and supportive environment as this. I wish all of you the best as you fill in any gaps I leave behind—I know you’ve got some big challenges ahead of you the next several months. English Wikipedians, you haven’t seen the last of me yet! [[:en:User:Bob the Wikipedian]] is about to come out of hibernation. As for the IRC clan, it was great getting to know you, and I sure hope this won’t be the last opportunity I get to interact with most of you. You may now resume normal chat (if there’s such a thing) knowing that the only staff watching you during my former office hours is Ironholds. (Please be gentle with him on occasion, though!) It’s been very exciting to see the Wikipedia Education Program from a staff perspective and to relay messages to the community. Likewise, it was interesting to see how the editing community felt about the Wikipedia Education Program, and to share those feelings with my manager and coworkers—that’s an experience they don’t teach you in computer science courses! From questions and comments to even the biggest complaints—I’ve enjoyed providing my services to you all. This job has opened my eyes to a whole new career path for me to explore in online community liaising. I think any of you Wikipedia editors and staff will agree with me that having a roof over one’s head and a working Internet connection are two of the most valuable privileges life has to offer, so here’s a link to my résumé in the event someone out there has (or knows of) an opening for which they’d like to consider me: http://www.massmirror.com/50136cb944818 If you do plan on responding to this email, please make sure you include my permanent email address bobthewikiped...@gmail.com —thanks! Adios, y’all! Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation Evansville, Indiana, U.S. P.S. I don’t have any plans at the moment to quit my volunteer work as regional ambassador for the Wikipedia Education Program to Wisconsin, Michigan, and Kentucky. So Jami, and all my fellow volunteers, see you on the other side! ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Office hour: Wikipedia Education Program
Just a reminder that this will be happening in a few minutes. Rob From: Rob Schnautz Subject: Office hour: Wikipedia Education Program The Wikimedia Foundation staff for the Wikipedia Education Program (Frank Schulenburg, Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Jami Mathewson, and I) will be hosting a scheduled public office hour in the #wikimedia-office IRC channel. Date: Thursday, 21 June 2012 Time: 16:00 – 17:00 UTC (noon-1 p.m. EDT, 9-10 a.m. PDT) (click here for local time) Topic: Wikipedia Education Program This will be a general question and answer session. We have several exciting new developments coming up: a transition from staff-led programs to volunteer-led programs in North America, and a new piece of software for Wikipedia that will help us manage the program better. We also are happy to answer general questions you may have about the program. If you have questions or concerns about the programs, or are simply curious, this is a great opportunity to gain better insight into these programs. If you are unable to attend, a link to the chat log will be posted at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours for public viewing following the session. Details on how to join the session are included below. We look forward to chatting with you! Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation --- If you haven't used IRC before, it may be easiest to use a web client; this means you don't have to install any software on your computer. Just click here to join in, and then choose a username when prompted: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikimedia-office You may be prompted to click through a security warning. It's fine. For more information about IRC software you can install on your computer, go to the Wikipedia entry on IRC or the Meta page on Wikimedia IRC. If using dedicated software, connect to the channel #wikimedia-officeconnect on the freenode network. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Office hour: Wikipedia Education Program
Just a reminder about the office hours coming up on Thursday this week. The topic for this session has been expanded to include all Foundation-run Wikipedia Education Program initiatives, which take place in the U.S., Canada, Brazil, Egypt, and India. Like all IRC office hours, the format will be an open question-and-answer session, so come with questions, and we’ll come with answers! Questions do not have to be limited to the upcoming changes (e.g. transition away from staff-led programs in North America, rollout of new software on Wikipedia to help support the program)—we’d be happy to answer general questions you have about the program as well. Please refer to the information at the bottom of this email for instructions on how to join. Thank you, Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation From: Rob Schnautz Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2012 2:42 PM To: Wikipedia Ambassadors ; English Wikipedia ; Wikimedia Cc: Frank Schulenburg ; Annie L. Lin ; LiAnna Davis ; Jami Mathewson Subject: Office hour: Wikipedia Education Programs in Canada and U.S. In anticipation of some major changes that are coming up in the U.S. and Canada Education Programs, the Wikimedia Foundation staff for the Wikipedia Education Program (Frank Schulenburg, Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Jami Mathewson, and I) will be hosting a scheduled public office hour in the #wikimedia-office IRC channel. Date: Thursday, 21 June 2012 Time: 16:00 – 17:00 UTC (noon-1 p.m. EDT, 9-10 a.m. PDT) (click here for local time) If you have questions or concerns about the programs, or are simply curious, this is a great opportunity to gain better insight into these programs. If you are unable to attend, a link to the chat log will be posted at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours for public viewing following the session. Details on how to join the session are included below. We look forward to chatting with you! Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation --- If you haven't used IRC before, it may be easiest to use a web client; this means you don't have to install any software on your computer. Just click here to join in, and then choose a username when prompted: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikimedia-office You may be prompted to click through a security warning. It's fine. For more information about IRC software you can install on your computer, go to the Wikipedia entry on IRC or the Meta page on Wikimedia IRC. If using dedicated software, connect to the channel #wikimedia-officeconnect on the freenode network. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_
This discussion has flowed onto Wikipedia's Administrator's Noticeboard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN#False_articles_created_for_the_good_of_education Rob -Original Message- From: Charles Matthews Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012 1:34 PM To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_ On 16 May 2012 16:49, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. Why *are* the skeptical geeks now on Reddit and not Wikipedia? And why haven't they taken those who generalise broadly from a single example with them? Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Invitation to help beta-test the MediaWiki 1.19 extension for the Wikipedia Education Program
The MediaWiki developers have been working hard to integrate certain elements of the Wikipedia Education Program into MediaWiki. If anyone is interested in helping beta-test the new extension, click (or copy and paste) the link below to get started: http://education.wmflabs.org/index.php/MW_1.18:Community_portal/Welcome,_beta_testers! Please note that this site does not will not represent official Wikipedia Education Program data. Feel free to alter the data on the wiki however you wish; the more testing you do, the better! Thanks, Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation 11450 Northridge Dr Evansville IN 47720 c. 812.746.8347 ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Invitation to help beta-test the MediaWiki 1.19 extension for the Wikipedia Education Program
No, the Education Program admin refers to a volunteer administrator of the program, such as a regional or national ambassador. The title varies depending on what part of the world they operate in, so simply calling them Education Program regional ambassador doesn't quite line up on some individuals. I'm personally not fond of the admin nomenclature myself, as it does (as you point out) confuse the individual with sysops. We're open to other ideas for naming the user access level if you have any. The users that are assigned this user access level will inherit privileges from the ep-instructor, ep-campus-ambassador, and ep-online-ambassador, and will be able to administer those user access levels. Other than that, it's a typical autoconfirmed user. Thanks, Rob -Original Message- From: Anirudh Bhati Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:45 AM To: English Wikipedia Cc: mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Invitation to help beta-test the MediaWiki 1.19 extension for the Wikipedia Education Program Thanks for the post, Rob. Will an Education Program admin have the same access levels as a sysop on the English Wikipedia? On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Rob Schnautz rschna...@wikimedia.orgwrote: The MediaWiki developers have been working hard to integrate certain elements of the Wikipedia Education Program into MediaWiki. If anyone is interested in helping beta-test the new extension, click (or copy and paste) the link below to get started: http://education.wmflabs.org/index.php/MW_1.18:Community_portal/Welcome,_beta_testers ! Please note that this site does not will not represent official Wikipedia Education Program data. Feel free to alter the data on the wiki however you wish; the more testing you do, the better! Thanks, Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation 11450 Northridge Dr Evansville IN 47720 c. 812.746.8347 ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] So ...
If you're into mythology/cryptozoology, I did some translation from Old Norse and Old Icelandic this summer to put together what is probably the most complete syntheses (in any language) of [[Hafgufa]] and [[Lyngbakr]], two legendary sea monsters. Bob On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.netwrote: ... written anything good on the encyclopedia lately? - d. Well, yes, I discovered the answer to the mystery of why Mao adopted Stalinism and put it into History of the People's Republic of China (1949–1976) A lot of people have wondered where he got those ideas. Turns out they came from History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Bolshevik): Short Course which was adopted by the Comintern as official history in 1938. This solution was developed by Hua-yu Li, of Oregon State University and published in his book, Mao and the Economic Stalinization of China, 1948-1953, Rowman Littlefield (February 17, 2006) (hardcover), pp. 266. ISBN 0742540537. The introduction is on the publisher's website at http://chapters.scarecrowpress.com/07/425/0742540545ch1.pdf So yes, progress is made Fred ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Italian Wikipedia - probably best discussed on Foundation
facepalm Just kidding; thanks for the link. :) Bob On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:59 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: There are reams of postings on this in the Foundation mailing list. foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l May I suggest that anyone who wants to follow this one signs up to Foundation, if only for the current discussion? I'm not trying to squash discussion here, but if people do discuss it here without reading the posts by the Italians, by Sue and many others on Foundation then I suspect a fair amount will be repetition and explanation of what has been said on Foundation. WereSpielChequers On 5 October 2011 18:48, Rob Schnautz bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: Woah. I just checked it.wikipedia.org because it sounded like a hoax...it's real. Does the law apply to website providers or to those who contribute to the website? If it's the former, you're right; Wikipedia is in Florida. But if it's the latter, then Wikipedia is most certainly affected by the law. Unfortunate indeed. Bob On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name wrote: There have been a bunch of items in my Twitter feed about how the Italian Wikipedia has shut down in response to a proposed repressive law regarding mandatory takedowns of allegedly defamatory online material in Italy. I have some problems with such a move, as it sets a precedent of having a particular language edition of Wikipedia tied to an uncomfortable degree with the politics of one country just because that's the primary place the language is spoken. It's always been true that the separate editions of Wikipedia are by language, not country. The Chinese Wikipedia keeps operating despite the repressive censorship of China, and if that country chooses to block it, that's their problem. English Wikipedia doesn't belong to England, or America, or any other English-speaking country, though the fact that the primary servers are in the USA does force it to comply to U.S. law. Unless there are servers in Italy, the Italian Wikipedia isn't compelled to follow any Italian law, though there could be consequences for any Italy-based participants if they don't, including the possibility of individuals there being held responsible for what they write or fail to take down, or possible mandatory blockage of the site in that country if they choose to go the Great Firewall route. I remember the German Wikipedia being affected at one point by a court injunction, but that only shut down a redirected .de domain, not the site itself as a subdomain of US-registered wikipedia.org. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?
If ArbCom would be damaged by people opening [[WP:DICK]] labeling cases, it certainly wouldn't be helped by people opening facepalming cases. Be it namecalling or implication of rude gestures, these are both civil issues and both need attention. At the same time, I feel the {{facepalm}} template can be (as I often see) used effectively without directing it at another individual, usually as in oh I can't believe I just said/did that. And re: the Star Trek stuff, I think the most credit we can give Star Trek (if even this) is coining the phrase (if they in fact did). It's found throughout common American culture predating Star Trek. Bob On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Scott MacDonald doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: -Original Message- From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l- boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Risker Sent: 04 October 2011 18:25 To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm? So perhaps a better focus of discussion would be how to deal with editors who are unable to or unwilling to understand project guidelines and policies. It seems that the primary use of this template is by editors expressing frustration at the inability, despite their best efforts, to address this issue. Risker/Anne But 'facepalming' them in (even legitimate) frustration at their evident obtuseness is, like calling someone a WP:DICK, unlikely to improve their behaviour, whilst it encourages people to use the same facepalm in situations where the recipient is a good faith editor, and the inference that they are being obtuse is unhelpful and uncivil/inflammatory. Anyway, templates are always poor substitutes for actual communication, particularly in situations where tempers are apt to fray, and miscommunications are more than likely. Scott ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Facepalm?
Usually when I facepalm it's because I have a moment, not someone else... I believe [[WP:DICK]] is a bigger issue than {{facepalm}} at the moment Bob On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Scott MacDonald doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote: Granted, removing uncivil templates won't magically increase patient and constructive discussion, but I do suspect we'd still nevertheless delete {{jackass}} or {{moron}}. If people are going to mock others, we shouldn't be giving them shortcuts to do so. The existence of the template serves to legitimise such dismissive discourse. Template:Jackass exists as a navigational template for the show. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l