Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] a peculiar problem with the "newly uploaded" condition

[effe iets anders]

Hi Jernej,

Based on what you describe, this is a complex issue indeed, and an
unfortunate intersection of circumstances. I don't think there is a perfect
solution.

I don't see a good reasoning to accept the new image unless somehow you can
argue that the newer version is better because of either metadata or
resolution. You could also check if they have a slightly different
angle/version that they maybe did not yet upload to Flickr. These are all
imperfect solutions though.

You could discuss among yourselves whether to accept these submissions
anyway in the national competition; you have some leeway there - but I
should warn you that most likely these images would not be accepted as
'new' in the international competition. The international jury has to stick
to their rules, I'm afraid, and I think the definition is pretty clear
here, however unfortunate this is for the photographer.

I'm sorry that I don't have a better solution.

Lodewijk

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:25 AM Jernej Polajnar 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> we came across an interesting issue. Apparently, the Slovene campain
> attracted an author whose freely licensed pictures were transferred from
> Flickr almost a year ago by a long-time user. Naturally, I'd like to
> keep the new pictures which were uploaded in good faith, so that the
> author wouldn't be offended by deletions, and that the campaign results
> would be better. You think that Commons admins could be persuaded to
> delete the older instances instead?
>
> Here's one example:
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Spodnje_Gorenjce_hamlet_in_Semi%C4%8D_(43519825290).jpg>
>
> (old) and
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Podru%C5%BEni%C4%8Dna_cerkev_Sv._Jo%C5%BEef.jpg>
>
> (new). There's a couple more.
>
> What do you think can be done?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jernej
>
>
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UNESCO promoting WLM and translating the participate page

[john cummings]

As I explained in my first message in August they will not promote it
without the translation.

One suggestion would be to have the languages the page is available in in
brackets after the name of the country (and links if the page is in more
than one language)

Best

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 16:07, effe iets anders 
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I understand the request. Given the timing and that everyone is busy
> organizing and the lack of response here, I don't expect that this will
> happen in the next 24 hours. Based on past years, I get the impression it
> takes you usually about a week to get in touch with UNESCO, so that would
> put us already well beyond the deadline.
>
> Hence my suggestion to just try with what we have. Having a landing page
> in Russian but then all links to non-Russian pages could also be argued to
> be somewhat misleading.
>
> Lodewijk
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:52 AM john cummings 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Sorry if I've not explained myself properly
>>
>> I've asked and they want this page
>> https://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/participate/ to be available in the 6
>> UN languages to be able promote it
>>
>> It would promoted through the main UNESCO Twitter channel, U4H is not
>> currently happening
>>
>> Best
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:47, effe iets anders 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that it's better to get the ball rolling at the UNESCO side
>>> to see if they want to promote either way. As always, I have included all
>>> the language versions in the overview, and that is what contains most of
>>> the information anyway. Or do you already have confirmation that they would
>>> be happy to push it out given a specific set of changes?
>>>
>>> Is Unite4Heritage actually still an active program btw? I see their
>>> twitter is inactive since 2018.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:14 AM john cummings 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 OK, there are 7 days left of WLM, UNESCO is very unlikely to promote it
 without this translation happening, I'm unsure what else to do other to
 remind you that UNESCO has 3.1 million Twitter followers.

 Best

 On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 23:07, effe iets anders 
 wrote:

> Like I said before, if people make the actual translation pages on
> Commons, and we could link to that, that would be the easiest to implement
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 07:20 Rubén Ojeda 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I could help with Spanish.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rubén Ojeda de la Roza
>> Program Coordinator
>> *Wikimedia España*
>>
>> Tlf: +34 722 61 47 98
>> rubenoj...@wikimedia.es
>> @rubojeda 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  Libre
>> de virus. www.avast.com
>> 
>> <#m_-7766887838684262802_m_8902025568742647212_m_-7595753479214776541_m_-970705366961228370_m_599238684634531976_m_-4473799560611762004_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>> El lun., 2 sept. 2019 a las 12:55, john cummings (<
>> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>>
>>> Hi guys, any progress on this?
>>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 18:49, effe iets anders <
>>> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 (alternatively, the translated versions could be maintained onwiki,
 and linked from the official page)

 On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 7:47 PM effe iets anders <
 effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm happy to give someone editor rights to make this happen, if
> they commit to maintaining the list in those languages :) This means 
> for
> the next 10 days updating the list each 24h. You can use the English 
> list
> as basis.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 12:47 PM john cummings <
> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Nicolas
>>
>> A French translation would be great, maybe we could share
>> translations in this list and then a friendly wizard could copy them 
>> in?
>> (Arabic is always an absolute pain to copy paste so maybe that needs 
>> to be
>> given special care).
>>
>> Best
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 16:57, Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Great idea!
>>>
>>> Is it easily doable technically for the site? If so, I can
>>> provide a translation in French.
>>>
>>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>>
>>> Le sam. 24 août 2019 à 16:29, john cummings <
>>> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>

[Wiki Loves Monuments] a peculiar problem with the "newly uploaded" condition

[Jernej Polajnar]

Dear all,

we came across an interesting issue. Apparently, the Slovene campain 
attracted an author whose freely licensed pictures were transferred from 
Flickr almost a year ago by a long-time user. Naturally, I'd like to 
keep the new pictures which were uploaded in good faith, so that the 
author wouldn't be offended by deletions, and that the campaign results 
would be better. You think that Commons admins could be persuaded to 
delete the older instances instead?


Here's one example: 
 
(old) and 
 
(new). There's a couple more.


What do you think can be done?

Thanks,

Jernej


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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UNESCO promoting WLM and translating the participate page

[effe iets anders]

Hi John,

I understand the request. Given the timing and that everyone is busy
organizing and the lack of response here, I don't expect that this will
happen in the next 24 hours. Based on past years, I get the impression it
takes you usually about a week to get in touch with UNESCO, so that would
put us already well beyond the deadline.

Hence my suggestion to just try with what we have. Having a landing page in
Russian but then all links to non-Russian pages could also be argued to be
somewhat misleading.

Lodewijk



On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:52 AM john cummings 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> Sorry if I've not explained myself properly
>
> I've asked and they want this page
> https://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/participate/ to be available in the 6
> UN languages to be able promote it
>
> It would promoted through the main UNESCO Twitter channel, U4H is not
> currently happening
>
> Best
>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:47, effe iets anders 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I'm guessing that it's better to get the ball rolling at the UNESCO side
>> to see if they want to promote either way. As always, I have included all
>> the language versions in the overview, and that is what contains most of
>> the information anyway. Or do you already have confirmation that they would
>> be happy to push it out given a specific set of changes?
>>
>> Is Unite4Heritage actually still an active program btw? I see their
>> twitter is inactive since 2018.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:14 AM john cummings 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, there are 7 days left of WLM, UNESCO is very unlikely to promote it
>>> without this translation happening, I'm unsure what else to do other to
>>> remind you that UNESCO has 3.1 million Twitter followers.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 23:07, effe iets anders 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Like I said before, if people make the actual translation pages on
 Commons, and we could link to that, that would be the easiest to implement

 On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 07:20 Rubén Ojeda  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I could help with Spanish.
>
> Best,
>
> Rubén Ojeda de la Roza
> Program Coordinator
> *Wikimedia España*
>
> Tlf: +34 722 61 47 98
> rubenoj...@wikimedia.es
> @rubojeda 
> 
>
>
>
> 
>  Libre
> de virus. www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_8902025568742647212_m_-7595753479214776541_m_-970705366961228370_m_599238684634531976_m_-4473799560611762004_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> El lun., 2 sept. 2019 a las 12:55, john cummings (<
> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>
>> Hi guys, any progress on this?
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 18:49, effe iets anders <
>> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (alternatively, the translated versions could be maintained onwiki,
>>> and linked from the official page)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 7:47 PM effe iets anders <
>>> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I'm happy to give someone editor rights to make this happen, if
 they commit to maintaining the list in those languages :) This means 
 for
 the next 10 days updating the list each 24h. You can use the English 
 list
 as basis.

 Best,
 Lodewijk

 On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 12:47 PM john cummings <
 mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Nicolas
>
> A French translation would be great, maybe we could share
> translations in this list and then a friendly wizard could copy them 
> in?
> (Arabic is always an absolute pain to copy paste so maybe that needs 
> to be
> given special care).
>
> Best
>
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 16:57, Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great idea!
>>
>> Is it easily doable technically for the site? If so, I can
>> provide a translation in French.
>>
>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>
>> Le sam. 24 août 2019 à 16:29, john cummings <
>> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Just a note to say I can ask UNESCO again to promote WLM,
>>> however I got some pushback last year because the page to find your 
>>> country
>>> is only available in English.
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/participate/
>>>
>>> It would make it much much more likely I can convince them again
>>> to promote it if this page could be available in French, 

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UNESCO promoting WLM and translating the participate page

[john cummings]

Hi

Sorry if I've not explained myself properly

I've asked and they want this page
https://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/participate/ to be available in the 6 UN
languages to be able promote it

It would promoted through the main UNESCO Twitter channel, U4H is not
currently happening

Best

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:47, effe iets anders 
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I'm guessing that it's better to get the ball rolling at the UNESCO side
> to see if they want to promote either way. As always, I have included all
> the language versions in the overview, and that is what contains most of
> the information anyway. Or do you already have confirmation that they would
> be happy to push it out given a specific set of changes?
>
> Is Unite4Heritage actually still an active program btw? I see their
> twitter is inactive since 2018.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:14 AM john cummings 
> wrote:
>
>> OK, there are 7 days left of WLM, UNESCO is very unlikely to promote it
>> without this translation happening, I'm unsure what else to do other to
>> remind you that UNESCO has 3.1 million Twitter followers.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 23:07, effe iets anders 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Like I said before, if people make the actual translation pages on
>>> Commons, and we could link to that, that would be the easiest to implement
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 07:20 Rubén Ojeda  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all

 I could help with Spanish.

 Best,

 Rubén Ojeda de la Roza
 Program Coordinator
 *Wikimedia España*

 Tlf: +34 722 61 47 98
 rubenoj...@wikimedia.es
 @rubojeda 
 



 
  Libre
 de virus. www.avast.com
 
 <#m_-7595753479214776541_m_-970705366961228370_m_599238684634531976_m_-4473799560611762004_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

 El lun., 2 sept. 2019 a las 12:55, john cummings (<
 mrjohncummi...@gmail.com>) escribió:

> Hi guys, any progress on this?
>
> On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 18:49, effe iets anders <
> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> (alternatively, the translated versions could be maintained onwiki,
>> and linked from the official page)
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 7:47 PM effe iets anders <
>> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm happy to give someone editor rights to make this happen, if they
>>> commit to maintaining the list in those languages :) This means for the
>>> next 10 days updating the list each 24h. You can use the English list as
>>> basis.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 12:47 PM john cummings <
>>> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Nicolas

 A French translation would be great, maybe we could share
 translations in this list and then a friendly wizard could copy them 
 in?
 (Arabic is always an absolute pain to copy paste so maybe that needs 
 to be
 given special care).

 Best

 On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 16:57, Nicolas VIGNERON <
 vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great idea!
>
> Is it easily doable technically for the site? If so, I can provide
> a translation in French.
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 24 août 2019 à 16:29, john cummings <
> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Just a note to say I can ask UNESCO again to promote WLM, however
>> I got some pushback last year because the page to find your country 
>> is only
>> available in English.
>>
>> 
>> https://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/participate/
>>
>> It would make it much much more likely I can convince them again
>> to promote it if this page could be available in French, Spanish, 
>> Arabic,
>> Chinese and Russian also.
>>
>> Best
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UNESCO promoting WLM and translating the participate page

[effe iets anders]

Hi John,

I'm guessing that it's better to get the ball rolling at the UNESCO side to
see if they want to promote either way. As always, I have included all the
language versions in the overview, and that is what contains most of the
information anyway. Or do you already have confirmation that they would be
happy to push it out given a specific set of changes?

Is Unite4Heritage actually still an active program btw? I see their twitter
is inactive since 2018.

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:14 AM john cummings 
wrote:

> OK, there are 7 days left of WLM, UNESCO is very unlikely to promote it
> without this translation happening, I'm unsure what else to do other to
> remind you that UNESCO has 3.1 million Twitter followers.
>
> Best
>
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 23:07, effe iets anders 
> wrote:
>
>> Like I said before, if people make the actual translation pages on
>> Commons, and we could link to that, that would be the easiest to implement
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 07:20 Rubén Ojeda  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I could help with Spanish.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rubén Ojeda de la Roza
>>> Program Coordinator
>>> *Wikimedia España*
>>>
>>> Tlf: +34 722 61 47 98
>>> rubenoj...@wikimedia.es
>>> @rubojeda 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>  Libre
>>> de virus. www.avast.com
>>> 
>>> <#m_-970705366961228370_m_599238684634531976_m_-4473799560611762004_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>
>>> El lun., 2 sept. 2019 a las 12:55, john cummings (<
>>> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>>>
 Hi guys, any progress on this?

 On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 18:49, effe iets anders <
 effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> (alternatively, the translated versions could be maintained onwiki,
> and linked from the official page)
>
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 7:47 PM effe iets anders <
> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm happy to give someone editor rights to make this happen, if they
>> commit to maintaining the list in those languages :) This means for the
>> next 10 days updating the list each 24h. You can use the English list as
>> basis.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 12:47 PM john cummings <
>> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Nicolas
>>>
>>> A French translation would be great, maybe we could share
>>> translations in this list and then a friendly wizard could copy them in?
>>> (Arabic is always an absolute pain to copy paste so maybe that needs to 
>>> be
>>> given special care).
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 16:57, Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Great idea!

 Is it easily doable technically for the site? If so, I can provide
 a translation in French.

 Cheers, ~nicolas

 Le sam. 24 août 2019 à 16:29, john cummings <
 mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi all
>
> Just a note to say I can ask UNESCO again to promote WLM, however
> I got some pushback last year because the page to find your country 
> is only
> available in English.
>
> 
> https://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/participate/
>
> It would make it much much more likely I can convince them again
> to promote it if this page could be available in French, Spanish, 
> Arabic,
> Chinese and Russian also.
>
> Best
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UNESCO promoting WLM and translating the participate page

[john cummings]

OK, there are 7 days left of WLM, UNESCO is very unlikely to promote it
without this translation happening, I'm unsure what else to do other to
remind you that UNESCO has 3.1 million Twitter followers.

Best

On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 23:07, effe iets anders 
wrote:

> Like I said before, if people make the actual translation pages on
> Commons, and we could link to that, that would be the easiest to implement
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 07:20 Rubén Ojeda  wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I could help with Spanish.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rubén Ojeda de la Roza
>> Program Coordinator
>> *Wikimedia España*
>>
>> Tlf: +34 722 61 47 98
>> rubenoj...@wikimedia.es
>> @rubojeda 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  Libre
>> de virus. www.avast.com
>> 
>> <#m_599238684634531976_m_-4473799560611762004_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>> El lun., 2 sept. 2019 a las 12:55, john cummings (<
>> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>>
>>> Hi guys, any progress on this?
>>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 18:49, effe iets anders 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 (alternatively, the translated versions could be maintained onwiki, and
 linked from the official page)

 On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 7:47 PM effe iets anders <
 effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm happy to give someone editor rights to make this happen, if they
> commit to maintaining the list in those languages :) This means for the
> next 10 days updating the list each 24h. You can use the English list as
> basis.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 12:47 PM john cummings <
> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Nicolas
>>
>> A French translation would be great, maybe we could share
>> translations in this list and then a friendly wizard could copy them in?
>> (Arabic is always an absolute pain to copy paste so maybe that needs to 
>> be
>> given special care).
>>
>> Best
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 16:57, Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Great idea!
>>>
>>> Is it easily doable technically for the site? If so, I can provide a
>>> translation in French.
>>>
>>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>>
>>> Le sam. 24 août 2019 à 16:29, john cummings <
>>> mrjohncummi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
 Hi all

 Just a note to say I can ask UNESCO again to promote WLM, however I
 got some pushback last year because the page to find your country is 
 only
 available in English.

 
 https://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/participate/

 It would make it much much more likely I can convince them again to
 promote it if this page could be available in French, Spanish, Arabic,
 Chinese and Russian also.

 Best
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