Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
Given the huge range of structures a Wikimania schedule can have, due to how tied to the physical layout of the venue(s) it is as well as other reasons (transport, food, culture, climate, themes, contemporary movement politics, etc), and how different non-conference aspects can be (for an overlapping list of reasons) I don't really see how useful a generic app could be? On 28 August 2014 22:27, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, right :). To be fair, the app was of a standard I would probably expect from a volunteer-run conference but obviously it’s just data inputted into an app template really. Making a whole app for Wikimanias en generale would be pretty cool, but probably not cool enough to warrant the man-hours ;) Joe On 28 August 2014 at 10:25:58 pm, Nkansah Rexford ( nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: It likewise didn't serve any useful purpose for me. I just saw it on the phone, and thought, what the heck is this doing here? Since it was branded as official app, it appeared and i thought it is something interesting to the Wikimania team of which perhaps they would like to pursue. I agree that it wouldn't be of any importance investing time in such an app. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone On Aug 28, 2014 10:44 PM, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Given there were literally hundreds of paper calendars I think I looked at the app maybe twice throughout the whole weekend. It was really pretty, but slow and ultimately pointless once you’d put your chosen sessions into your own calendar (as I’m sure a lot of people did) or indeed just circled them on your programme. Creating an app is a big endeavour, creating a *good* app even more so. I don’t think it’s really necessary to do so. Joe On 28 August 2014 at 09:32:30 pm, Nkansah Rexford ( nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
Oh! That might be a problem half solved. :P I wouldn't recommend the Wikimania Team make an Android app for the conferences. As Mabett said, of which I agree: I feel it would be better to put effort into making the official website (more) mobile friendly. Making the mobile website more user friendly might be of much benefit than building native apps. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Pau Giner pgi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Google I/O app is opensource ( https://github.com/google/iosched ), which may be useful for any volunteer interested in creating a conference app. It only covers Android devices, and I guess that adapting it to a different conference won't be trivial. Pau On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Chris McKenna chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Given the huge range of structures a Wikimania schedule can have, due to how tied to the physical layout of the venue(s) it is as well as other reasons (transport, food, culture, climate, themes, contemporary movement politics, etc), and how different non-conference aspects can be (for an overlapping list of reasons) I don't really see how useful a generic app could be? On 28 August 2014 22:27, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, right :). To be fair, the app was of a standard I would probably expect from a volunteer-run conference but obviously it's just data inputted into an app template really. Making a whole app for Wikimanias en generale would be pretty cool, but probably not cool enough to warrant the man-hours ;) Joe On 28 August 2014 at 10:25:58 pm, Nkansah Rexford ( nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: It likewise didn't serve any useful purpose for me. I just saw it on the phone, and thought, what the heck is this doing here? Since it was branded as official app, it appeared and i thought it is something interesting to the Wikimania team of which perhaps they would like to pursue. I agree that it wouldn't be of any importance investing time in such an app. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone On Aug 28, 2014 10:44 PM, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Given there were literally hundreds of paper calendars I think I looked at the app maybe twice throughout the whole weekend. It was really pretty, but slow and ultimately pointless once you'd put your chosen sessions into your own calendar (as I'm sure a lot of people did) or indeed just circled them on your programme. Creating an app is a big endeavour, creating a *good* app even more so. I don't think it's really necessary to do so. Joe On 28 August 2014 at 09:32:30 pm, Nkansah Rexford ( nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
Could be useful to have a one-tap feature to add lectures/workshop to the phone/googe calendar and maybe an alert system if there are changes in the schedule. It could be app or just mobile version of website :-) 2014-08-29 11:20 GMT+02:00 Chris McKenna chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk: Given the huge range of structures a Wikimania schedule can have, due to how tied to the physical layout of the venue(s) it is as well as other reasons (transport, food, culture, climate, themes, contemporary movement politics, etc), and how different non-conference aspects can be (for an overlapping list of reasons) I don't really see how useful a generic app could be? On 28 August 2014 22:27, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, right :). To be fair, the app was of a standard I would probably expect from a volunteer-run conference but obviously it’s just data inputted into an app template really. Making a whole app for Wikimanias en generale would be pretty cool, but probably not cool enough to warrant the man-hours ;) Joe On 28 August 2014 at 10:25:58 pm, Nkansah Rexford (nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: It likewise didn't serve any useful purpose for me. I just saw it on the phone, and thought, what the heck is this doing here? Since it was branded as official app, it appeared and i thought it is something interesting to the Wikimania team of which perhaps they would like to pursue. I agree that it wouldn't be of any importance investing time in such an app. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone On Aug 28, 2014 10:44 PM, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Given there were literally hundreds of paper calendars I think I looked at the app maybe twice throughout the whole weekend. It was really pretty, but slow and ultimately pointless once you’d put your chosen sessions into your own calendar (as I’m sure a lot of people did) or indeed just circled them on your programme. Creating an app is a big endeavour, creating a *good* app even more so. I don’t think it’s really necessary to do so. Joe On 28 August 2014 at 09:32:30 pm, Nkansah Rexford (nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
Hi, Am 28.08.2014 22:31, schrieb Nkansah Rexford: Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? [...] The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. I talked to two of the developers. Their business is (partially) based in London and they are a small start-up with a lot of passion, which made them a great partner and sponsor for this year's Wikimania. They have in mind making the app open source but yet they still work on making a good living of the app and the services around it. They did indicate to me that they would be very interested in getting feedback, to further develop (improve) the app and provide it for free - unless it becomes open source one day - for future Wikimedia conferences. I personally would love it if this could become reality. I do have the contact of one of the guys (Jon Sivak) and am interested to keep contact. Maybe this is part of what the Wikimania Committee can do in order to help local teams. I believe that things like these (along with standardised Visa invitation processes, centrally hosted registration and scholarship management tools...) should be provided centrally to each year's team. /Manuel -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
[Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
I don't quite get why Wikimania would need an app? If someone builds one and it is useful in that instance, great - but I don't see an incentive to invest time, energy or money into it? So please enlighten me, what would be the upside? Lodewijk 2014-08-28 22:31 GMT+02:00 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexf...@gmail.com: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
To be honest while I can certainly appreciate the usefulness of an app for Wikimania i see it as very low on a long list of things that need to be set and ready (many of which may never be fully set before the conference begins) before we invest much time and energy into an app. James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexf...@gmail.com wrote: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
Given there were literally hundreds of paper calendars I think I looked at the app maybe twice throughout the whole weekend. It was really pretty, but slow and ultimately pointless once you’d put your chosen sessions into your own calendar (as I’m sure a lot of people did) or indeed just circled them on your programme. Creating an app is a big endeavour, creating a *good* app even more so. I don’t think it’s really necessary to do so. Joe On 28 August 2014 at 09:32:30 pm, Nkansah Rexford (nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
It likewise didn't serve any useful purpose for me. I just saw it on the phone, and thought, what the heck is this doing here? Since it was branded as official app, it appeared and i thought it is something interesting to the Wikimania team of which perhaps they would like to pursue. I agree that it wouldn't be of any importance investing time in such an app. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone On Aug 28, 2014 10:44 PM, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Given there were literally hundreds of paper calendars I think I looked at the app maybe twice throughout the whole weekend. It was really pretty, but slow and ultimately pointless once you'd put your chosen sessions into your own calendar (as I'm sure a lot of people did) or indeed just circled them on your programme. Creating an app is a big endeavour, creating a *good* app even more so. I don't think it's really necessary to do so. Joe On 28 August 2014 at 09:32:30 pm, Nkansah Rexford ( nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
Ah, right :). To be fair, the app was of a standard I would probably expect from a volunteer-run conference but obviously it’s just data inputted into an app template really. Making a whole app for Wikimanias en generale would be pretty cool, but probably not cool enough to warrant the man-hours ;) Joe On 28 August 2014 at 10:25:58 pm, Nkansah Rexford (nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: It likewise didn't serve any useful purpose for me. I just saw it on the phone, and thought, what the heck is this doing here? Since it was branded as official app, it appeared and i thought it is something interesting to the Wikimania team of which perhaps they would like to pursue. I agree that it wouldn't be of any importance investing time in such an app. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone On Aug 28, 2014 10:44 PM, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Given there were literally hundreds of paper calendars I think I looked at the app maybe twice throughout the whole weekend. It was really pretty, but slow and ultimately pointless once you’d put your chosen sessions into your own calendar (as I’m sure a lot of people did) or indeed just circled them on your programme. Creating an app is a big endeavour, creating a *good* app even more so. I don’t think it’s really necessary to do so. Joe On 28 August 2014 at 09:32:30 pm, Nkansah Rexford (nkansahrexf...@gmail.com) wrote: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania Android app
I feel it would be better to put effort into making the official website (more) mobile friendly. On 28 August 2014 21:39, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I don't quite get why Wikimania would need an app? If someone builds one and it is useful in that instance, great - but I don't see an incentive to invest time, energy or money into it? So please enlighten me, what would be the upside? Lodewijk 2014-08-28 22:31 GMT+02:00 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexf...@gmail.com: I used the Wikimania Android app during the conference. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.eventspark.wikimania2014 Obviously, it is not up to par with conference apps, like the Google I/O app. Are there any plans to get an official app for use for subsequent conferences of Wikimania? Or sponsors who happen to be app developers will do us the honor? I think this year's event was the tenth Wikimania. Launching an app to celebrate that wouldn't have been a bad idea. The app link above says official Wikimania app, but not very official to me as was built by one of the sponsors of the event. Rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Smartphone ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
