Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons

2012-04-25 Thread emijrp
2012/4/24 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com

 Where's the latest thread on the Timed Media Handler progress?

 I am meeting with MIT Open CourseWare tomorrow - they want to expand
 the set of videos they released last year under CC-SA, starting with
 categories / vids that would be fill gaps on Wikipedia.  Any thoughts
 on how to make that collaboration more effective would be welcome.

 SJ


You can upload them to Internet Archive, if Wikipedia has temporal issues
with videos. When the problems are fixed, we can move them from Internet
Archive to Wikimedia Commons.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard University: Drop paywalled journals, publish open access

2012-04-25 Thread emijrp
2012/4/24 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com

 Tangential, but highly relevant to the goal of free content:


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/apr/24/harvard-university-journal-publishers-prices

 Exasperated by rising subscription costs charged by academic
 publishers, Harvard University has encouraged its faculty members to
 make their research freely available through open access journals and
 to resign from publications that keep articles behind paywalls.


 http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k77982tabgroupid=icb.tabgroup143448

 The Library has never received anything close to full reimbursement
 for these expenditures from overhead collected by the University on
 grant and research funds. The Faculty Advisory Council to the Library,
 representing university faculty in all schools and in consultation
 with the Harvard Library leadership,  reached this conclusion: major
 periodical subscriptions, especially to electronic journals published
 by historically key providers, cannot be sustained: continuing these
 subscriptions on their current footing is financially untenable. Doing
 so would seriously erode collection efforts in many other areas,
 already compromised.


Meanwhile in Wikipedia we accept these gifts[1] to put links to paywall
content.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HighBeam

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Haitham Shamma and the Editor Growth and Contribution Program

2012-04-25 Thread Bod Notbod
Welcome Haitham!

Just for a bit of clarification, the post says:

 Haitham is joining the Wikimedia Foundation in order to support new
 editor growth on small-to-medium sized Wikimedia projects,

And then...

 Haitham will be beginning his work with the Arabic Wikipedia
 community, and based on what is learned there, he’ll be moving into
 other languages and geographies soon.

So it sounds like when small *projects* are spoken of this means
'small wikipedias' not, say, Wikiversity. Is that an accurate reading?

Bodnotbod

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-25 Thread Huib Laurens
Phillipe,

We are now to day's futher.

Still no responds from you on or off list, or any responds at all from the
foundation.

best,

Huib

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 03:52, Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com wrote:

  It really amazes me how much we distrust the people who have been
  doing a great work (otrs admins, ombudsmen, etc).

 I'm going to suggest a benefit of the doubt response and wonder
 aloud whether it's more to do with what we've come to expect.

 Most of us start as editors and we become aware that our every
 contribution is logged and publicly available for scrutiny. That is of
 tremendous use to us as editors.

 So maybe it's just that we all started in that environment and see the
 value of that and then we tend to carry over those thoughts into every
 aspect of what happens on the wikis.

 It may not be achievable, desirable or necessary to have access to
 that level of monitoring/review for everything else (I know nothing of
 OTRS and/or ombudsmen), I'm just suggesting why these questions may
 arise: a cultural thing, if you like.

 Bodnotbod

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0

2012-04-25 Thread Mateus Nobre
Add ALL at Wikisource!

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very good news for Open Library, and for us too.

 2012/4/24 Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org

  This is big news -- though still only part of Harvard's full
  collection of records.
 
  Following the British Library's release of 3M bib records under CC0 18
  months ago:
 
 http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k77982pageid=icb.page498373
 
  David Weinberger writes:
 
   This is the largest contribution of full bib records we know of.
  
   Stuart Shieber [of the Berkman Center] (and of the Office of Scholarly
   Communication) was the driving force behind this.
  
   Woohoo!
  
   David W.
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0

2012-04-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks for sharing, I had read about it on the NYT but nothing was said 
on license.

So now the USA have more open bibliographic data than Germany/Europe? :)
lobid.org is a very nice initiative, but other catalog systems have very 
complex interactions between hundreds or thousands of entities and it's 
very hard to change the licenses.
The main problem is usually deduplication and quality of the records, 
any information on this for Harvard's data?


Mateus Nobre, 25/04/2012 19:44:

Add ALL at Wikisource!


Wikisource? This is only metadata.

Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0

2012-04-25 Thread emijrp
2012/4/25 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com

 Thanks for sharing, I had read about it on the NYT but nothing was said on
 license.
 So now the USA have more open bibliographic data than Germany/Europe? :)
 lobid.org is a very nice initiative, but other catalog systems have very
 complex interactions between hundreds or thousands of entities and it's
 very hard to change the licenses.
 The main problem is usually deduplication and quality of the records, any
 information on this for Harvard's data?

 Mateus Nobre, 25/04/2012 19:44:

 Add ALL at Wikisource!


 Wikisource? This is only metadata.


Perhaps it is OK for Wikidata.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features

2012-04-25 Thread Jan Kučera
Hi,

yes, there surely were comments from developers... that is positive.
But the result as general is still nothing at all (the feature is not
even nearing deployment). WMF should invest in new features. I am not
a dev and thus can not contribute any code.

Kozuch

2012/4/25 Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org:
 On 04/23/2012 01:03 PM, Jan Ku?era wrote:
 Hi there,

 If, on the other hand, you just mean features to promote greater
 communication and networking between editors, that's a clear priority -
 I'm happy to talk to people about the work we're doing, and to hear any
 suggestions along the way :).

 yes I exactly meant that. It is about making contributing not suck.
 How often does Wikipedia (=MediaWiki) get big new features??? I posted
 a bug about integrating some kind of graph/chart feature
 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29806) and in 9 months
 almost nothing happened... and this really sucks... beleive it or
 not...

 Kozuch


 Hi, Kozuch.  I look at

 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29806

 and I see that, within a day of the issue being filed, multiple
 experienced MediaWiki developers commented on that issue to explain what
 the chart software's developers would have to do in order to make it
 suitable for use on our sites.  I've also contacted the author of that
 extension to point at that bug's comments and at this procedural guide:

 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment

 so if you could help me in alerting the extension's author to those
 comments, that would be great.  Thanks!

 --
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-25 Thread Casey Brown
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there an auditable log of these actions?  i.e. one that OTRS admins
 cant doctor?

As Rjd said, there isn't.

Nothing will ever be perfect though. For example, the mailman mailing
list that they currently use can easily be accessed by anyone with the
root mailman password. The list of people with that password is very
small -- and is mostly restricted to sysadmins and high-level staffers
-- but there are still people who can hypothetically access it without
anyone knowing. It's more an issue of minimizing risk than eliminating
it.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0

2012-04-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
2012/4/25 emijrp emi...@gmail.com:
 Perhaps it is OK for Wikidata.

I think it's perfectly OK with Wikidata, and it would be with
Wikisource (if we had a metadata management system :-).
As far as I understood, Wikidata will engage sister projects data in
2015 (i'm gonna cry).

Aubrey

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission

2012-04-25 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com wrote:
..

 It really amazes me how much we distrust the people who have been
 doing a great work (otrs admins, ombudsmen, etc).

 And all upon contrived hypothetical scenarios.  And how about one of
 the root-access devs is secretly working for the goverment of... is
 anyone working on a solution for this?

Good governance is not built on blind trust.

It is important to be able to periodically check that there hasnt been abuse.

The OTRS admins are doing great work, and enwp oversight and arbcom
have moved under OTRS despite the lack of an audit trail, but I will
continue to ask for one because I believe it is important.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify

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