Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
IIRC: languages defaulted closed in a first iteration of the new skin, and then following discussion/complaints they was set to default open again. Please don't ask me for links to said discussion, I don't remember where it was :) Re: the redesigns -- Personally I don't like this particular proposed redesign, but I do like in general the idea of people redesigning and remixing WP. Maybe the page Steven started can evolve into a portal for potential redesigns, design contests, resources for designers (especially for people who actually want to get serious with the skin), and community design challenges... eg SJ suggests that wikipedia.org and wikimedia.org need love, I'd add the front page of the english wikipedia to my personal wish-it-were-more-beautiful list! -- phoebe On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Open by default for me too on all the browsers I have access to. > The question still came up at Wikimania :-/ > > Unfair of me to ascribe it to the skin. I suppose we've been hiding the > existence of other languages since the transition from having them above > the page title in Classic :-) > > SJ > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM, James Alexander wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> >> > On 9 August 2012 19:03, Samuel Klein wrote: >> > >> > > When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current >> > > skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even >> > cover >> > > the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design. [and every month some >> > > long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to >> > > other languages, which they found useful!] >> > >> > >> > Oh, someone changed this from defaulting open (like they were finally >> > convinced to) to defaulting closed? That's nice. Who did this and >> > when? >> > >> > >> > - d. >> > >> > >> > >> hmm, I'm still seeing it as defaulting open (Tested in new private session >> on firefox and incognito window on chrome). >> >> >> -- >> James Alexander >> jameso...@gmail.com >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > > -- > Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Al-Jazeera English "Fault Lines" report on SOPA
This is a segment in the Fault Lines series on AJE about SOPA, the Blackout and other issues around "Controlling the Web." Features some footage of the WMF offices and clips from Jimmy, among many others. http://youtu.be/6FD9urcUWXw thanks Matthew -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *https://donate.wikimedia.org* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
Open by default for me too on all the browsers I have access to. The question still came up at Wikimania :-/ Unfair of me to ascribe it to the skin. I suppose we've been hiding the existence of other languages since the transition from having them above the page title in Classic :-) SJ On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM, James Alexander wrote: > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Gerard wrote: > > > On 9 August 2012 19:03, Samuel Klein wrote: > > > > > When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current > > > skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even > > cover > > > the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design. [and every month some > > > long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to > > > other languages, which they found useful!] > > > > > > Oh, someone changed this from defaulting open (like they were finally > > convinced to) to defaulting closed? That's nice. Who did this and > > when? > > > > > > - d. > > > > > > > hmm, I'm still seeing it as defaulting open (Tested in new private session > on firefox and incognito window on chrome). > > > -- > James Alexander > jameso...@gmail.com > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 9 August 2012 19:03, Samuel Klein wrote: > > > When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current > > skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even > cover > > the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design. [and every month some > > long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to > > other languages, which they found useful!] > > > Oh, someone changed this from defaulting open (like they were finally > convinced to) to defaulting closed? That's nice. Who did this and > when? > > > - d. > > > hmm, I'm still seeing it as defaulting open (Tested in new private session on firefox and incognito window on chrome). -- James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!
The quest for get Wikipedia editors the sources they need is gaining momentum. Here's what's happening and what you can sign up for ''right now'': * '''[[WP:Credo|Credo Reference]]''' provides full-text online versions of nearly 1200 published reference works from more than 70 publishers in every major subject, including general and subject dictionaries and encyclopedias. There are '''125''' full Credo 350 accounts available, with access even to 100 more references works than in Credo's original donation. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up [[Wikipedia:Credo#Sign-up sheet|here]]. * '''[[WP:HighBeam|HighBeam Research]]''' has access to over 80 million articles from 6,500 publications including newspapers, magazines, academic journals, newswires, trade magazines and encyclopedias. Thousands of new articles are added daily, and archives date back over 25 years covering a wide range of subjects and industries. There are '''250''' full access 1-year accounts available. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up [[Wikipedia:HighBeam/Applications|here]]. * '''[[WP:Questia|Questia]]''' is an online research library for books and journal articles focusing on the humanities and social sciences. Questia has curated titles from over 300 trusted publishers including 77,000 full-text books and 4 million journal, magazine, and newspaper articles, as well as encyclopedia entries. There will soon be '''1000''' full access 1-year accounts available. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up [[Wikipedia:Questia#Apply here: Round 1|here]]. In addition to these great partnerships, you might be interested in the next-generation idea to create a central '''Wikipedia Library''' where approved editors would have access to ''all'' participating resource donors. It's still in the preliminary stages, but if you like the idea, add your feedback to the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships/Project_Ideas/The_Wikipedia_Library Community Fellowship proposal] to start developing the project. Drop by my talk page if you have any questions. Now, go sign up! --[[User:Ocaasi|Ocaasi]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
On 9 August 2012 19:03, Samuel Klein wrote: > When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current > skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even cover > the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design. [and every month some > long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to > other languages, which they found useful!] Oh, someone changed this from defaulting open (like they were finally convinced to) to defaulting closed? That's nice. Who did this and when? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
Ah, it is quite beautiful. Thanks to the designers for sharing their visual ideas. I love seeing design fantasies like this; more please. The rainbows and color-bars are beautiful, even though some people (in my family too :) are colorblind. The color bar would work just fine without hue, since the one you are focused on gets highlighted and captioned. But I think that is not the most interesting part of their designs! On wikipedia.org (and wikimedia.org ...!): it's due for some visual love. We could make the search-bar bigger and central, minimize extra text, and make search and sister projects a visible focus, without hiding language-names behind a dropdown. When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even cover the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design. [and every month some long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to other languages, which they found useful!] Hopefully after discussion with them these images/screencaps are usable as ideas in the on-wiki discussions. SJ On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Hay (Husky) wrote: > Yup, i think it's pretty nice. I especially like the 'edit' modus with > the live edit view. And the colored bars on the top of the main page > indicating the number of articles in a certain language. > > -- Hay > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke > wrote: > > Well, it's certainly a possible starting point for discussion: > > http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/ > > > > -- > > Michel Vuijlsteke > > http://blog.zog.org > > ___ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such
Steven Walling's started an essay on Wikipedia redesigns: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unsolicited_redesigns - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l