Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot has now started to generate 1-1, 5 M articles of species on sv:wp
On 11 January 2013 16:45, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: He has since then extended the scope to include all living species, both animals and plants, which means another 1-1,5 million articles. Running at full permissible bot speed, the bot generates around 10,000 articles per day, but at a more realistic speed, the full project will take the rest of 2013 to complete. Wow! Very interested to see you got community support for this - normally it's sharply the other way around. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [FC-discuss] Very Sad News
sad. :( -- Forwarded message -- From: Alex Leavitt alexleav...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:05 AM Subject: [FC-discuss] Very Sad News To: Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization in particular disc...@freeculture.org http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html Sent from phone. - Alex Leavitt ___ Discuss mailing list disc...@freeculture.org http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss -- @wikimediadc / @wikidata ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lsjbot has now started to generate 1-1, 5 M articles of species on sv:wp
Andrew Gray skrev 2013-01-12 11:58: On 11 January 2013 16:45, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: Wow! Very interested to see you got community support for this - normally it's sharply the other way around. We had a very lengthy dissusion of course with all the common arguments. We were and are as negative as all others to the botgeneration of articles from other language versions as was done around 2008. During our discussion we evolved the concept quite a bit (special templates, categories, messages on talk page etc). Also for us the precedence and experience from nl:wp was important We also had two successful runs in 2012, not only birds as was mentioned, but also of 30 000 articles for French communes (also with data taken from primary sources, Commons and iw links to other language versions) Anders ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] No access to the Uzbek Wikipedia in Uzbekistan
Dear all, dear Tim, I want to extend the thank you from the Uzbek Wikipedia community. I let them use their own words (although, translated for the benefit of this list). user 1: wow, it's great! who has done it user 2: wikimedia programmers user 1; super! real heroes! user 3: thank you, thank you, thank you! user 4: so now we're waiting for google to index uzwiki user 2: it's awesome, i cannot even express how awesome it is user 2: Thank you guys for helping us. And special thanks to Tim Starling. user 2: We're going to introduce Tim Starling day in Uzbek Wikipedia as well I also pinged my contacts at Google, hoping that they can schedule the reindexing soon. Thanks to everyone involved. Rahmat va salomlar! On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 24/12/12 20:23, Anonymous User wrote: I don't know how much effort each of these two measures would be. If you'd ask me, I would suggest to be very serious, but we are not under a deadline (the situation has been like this for more than a year now), and setting the rel=caonical would already be really, really helpful. This is done now. It would be good if Google could crawl uz.wikipedia.org to update the canonical URLs. In case anyone is wondering, I don't think this would be a good thing to do on zh.wikipedia.org. The Chinese government would happily block *.wikipedia.org port 443 if it became popular. At least the current situation provides a way to work around keyword filtering for people who are sufficiently motivated -- if HTTPS was blocked, it would be much less useful. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html Awful news. -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Wikimedia Chapters Association Chair http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
I never met Aaron, nut this is very, very sad news. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html Awful news. -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Wikimedia Chapters Association Chair http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
Sorry, I don't know better - in what way was A. S. related to the Wikimedia movement? Kind regards Ziko 2013/1/12 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com: I never met Aaron, nut this is very, very sad news. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html Awful news. -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Wikimedia Chapters Association Chair http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
He was an author (user:aaronsw) and developer, among others. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: Sorry, I don't know better - in what way was A. S. related to the Wikimedia movement? Kind regards Ziko 2013/1/12 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com: I never met Aaron, nut this is very, very sad news. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html Awful news. -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Wikimedia Chapters Association Chair http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
I just created an article for him on Portuguese Wikipedia. I want to improve about this On July 19, 2011, he was arrested for harvesting academic journal articles from JSTOR. Very sad. Tom On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: Sorry, I don't know better - in what way was A. S. related to the Wikimedia movement? Kind regards Ziko 2013/1/12 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com: I never met Aaron, nut this is very, very sad news. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 January 2013 12:04, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html Awful news. -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) fae...@gmail.com Wikimedia Chapters Association Chair http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WCA Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
On 12 January 2013 15:01, Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote: He was an author (user:aaronsw) and developer, among others. Also came up with the study showing that most content contribution is done by drive-by editors: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia So a few hundred people do the curation work - but the original writing is done by lots and lots of people. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
It's shocking, horrible news. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AaronSw/Election - he ran for the Board in 2006. See http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians Making More Wikipedians. Some more links and memories at http://www.metafilter.com/123777/Open-access-open-internet-closed-book . -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors
Dear Colleagues Let me start off by pointing out the fact that I am never sure about exactly what issues are handled on this list and secondly when are the issues of a specific language Wikipedia handled among that community and when are they (these issues) - if ever - handled at a higher level (Wikipedia top level). There are a number of rogue elements that everybody has given up crossing swords with, and wherever these elements go, everybody stays away. One specific member has a track record a mile long of complaints against him, has been blocked many times, but does not learn and has in fact demonstrated that he has no intention to learn. Ask the more involved members about these rogue elements and ask also about the top-notch editors that have been abandoning the project in recent times. It is no use leaving this to be addressed by the Portuguese WP, as they have so far not been able to deal with these elements. Do a search for the word panelinha (the clique/ coterie among the discussion archives ad you will see how often RESPECTED editors complain about this inner circle/ clique of repeat abusers who thrive on power and discord, spending their days undoing what others do. Until there are firm rules in place to ban these rogues, WP Portuguese will keep on bleeding its best. I have collected a number of links with countless discussions/ warning about the editor I referred to above - all in Portuguese, naturally - which I can pass on to anyone who wants to look into this. I do hope someone does. Best regards, Rui -- _ Rui Correia Advocacy, Human Rights, Media and Language Work Consultant Bridge to Angola - Angola Liaison Consultant Mobile Number in South Africa +27 74 425 4186 Número de Telemóvel na África do Sul +27 74 425 4186 ___ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:37:56 +0200, Rui Correia wrote: Dear Colleagues Let me start off by pointing out the fact that I am never sure about exactly what issues are handled on this list and secondly when are the issues of a specific language Wikipedia handled among that community and when are they (these issues) - if ever - handled at a higher level (Wikipedia top level). ... Best regards, Rui Indeed, among the top-10 Wikipedias the Portuguese and the Russian ones have the reputation of the projects where users are more preoccupied with fighting each other and proving points (in the sense of [[:en:WP:POINT]]) that with creating encyclopedia. On the other hand, nothing ever will be done about it outside these projects. I do not see WMF ever stepping down, under any circumstances. One can open RFC on Meta, which has 100% chance of leading nowhere. Even admins of minor projects, with a long history of abuse, in practice always never get desysopped. Therefore, I am sorry to say, if you can not defend your cause inside the project, forget about it. (This does not mean I agree with you that you cause is the right one; in fact I have no opinion). Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:46:57 +0100, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: On the other hand, nothing ever will be done about it outside these projects. I do not see WMF ever stepping down, under any circumstances. One can open RFC on Meta, which has 100% chance of Sorry, obviously meant stepping in Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Portuguese Wikipedia at the mercy of a few rogue editors
On Jan 12, 2013 3:38 PM, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote: Dear Colleagues Let me start off by pointing out the fact that I am never sure about exactly what issues are handled on this list and secondly when are the issues of a specific language Wikipedia handled among that community and when are they (these issues) - if ever - handled at a higher level (Wikipedia top level). I'm afraid it is extremely unusual for the wider community to intervene in the internal affairs of a project. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings during his election campaign are worth re-reading: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whorunswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedias http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikicodeislaw He was also described as one of the early architects of Creative Commons by Larry Lessig [1], and founded infogami which merged into Reddit, so he's sometimes called a Reddit co-founder as well. Since then he's turned to activism and co-founded Demand Progress which has been rallying opposition to bad Internet law, including SOPA/PIPA. Cory Doctorow's obituary is a very personal goodbye and includes a video of Aaron's talk How we stopped SOPA. http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html Aaron was an intense, passionate and focused intellectual who dedicated his life to changing the world for the better - and he did. It's a shocking loss and deeply sad that he left us so early, that he saw no other way. May he rest in peace. Erik [1] http://www.lessig.org/2006/09/if-i-could-vote-on-the-wikiped/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
[...] The first site I built was called get.info. The idea was to have a free, online encyclopedia that anyone could edit or add things to or reorganize, right through their web browser. I built the whole thing, added lots of cool features, tested it on all sorts of browsers, and was very proud of it. It actually won even a prize for one of the best new web applications that year. Unfortunately, the only people I knew at the time were other kids in my school, so I didn't really have anyone writing a lot of encyclopedia articles. (Luckily, several years later, my mother pointed me to this new site called Wikipedia that was doing the same thing.) [...] From How to Get a Job Like Mine https://aaronsw.jottit.com/howtoget. Thanks for the links bellow. This was a really horrible lost for all of us. Tom On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings during his election campaign are worth re-reading: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whorunswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedias http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikicodeislaw He was also described as one of the early architects of Creative Commons by Larry Lessig [1], and founded infogami which merged into Reddit, so he's sometimes called a Reddit co-founder as well. Since then he's turned to activism and co-founded Demand Progress which has been rallying opposition to bad Internet law, including SOPA/PIPA. Cory Doctorow's obituary is a very personal goodbye and includes a video of Aaron's talk How we stopped SOPA. http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html Aaron was an intense, passionate and focused intellectual who dedicated his life to changing the world for the better - and he did. It's a shocking loss and deeply sad that he left us so early, that he saw no other way. May he rest in peace. Erik [1] http://www.lessig.org/2006/09/if-i-could-vote-on-the-wikiped/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
Thanks for the information, and my condoleances to those who knew him. Sounds like a very, very interesting person. Kind regards Ziko 2013/1/12 Everton Zanella Alvarenga ezalvare...@wikimedia.org: [...] The first site I built was called get.info. The idea was to have a free, online encyclopedia that anyone could edit or add things to or reorganize, right through their web browser. I built the whole thing, added lots of cool features, tested it on all sorts of browsers, and was very proud of it. It actually won even a prize for one of the best new web applications that year. Unfortunately, the only people I knew at the time were other kids in my school, so I didn't really have anyone writing a lot of encyclopedia articles. (Luckily, several years later, my mother pointed me to this new site called Wikipedia that was doing the same thing.) [...] From How to Get a Job Like Mine https://aaronsw.jottit.com/howtoget. Thanks for the links bellow. This was a really horrible lost for all of us. Tom On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings during his election campaign are worth re-reading: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whorunswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedias http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikicodeislaw He was also described as one of the early architects of Creative Commons by Larry Lessig [1], and founded infogami which merged into Reddit, so he's sometimes called a Reddit co-founder as well. Since then he's turned to activism and co-founded Demand Progress which has been rallying opposition to bad Internet law, including SOPA/PIPA. Cory Doctorow's obituary is a very personal goodbye and includes a video of Aaron's talk How we stopped SOPA. http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html Aaron was an intense, passionate and focused intellectual who dedicated his life to changing the world for the better - and he did. It's a shocking loss and deeply sad that he left us so early, that he saw no other way. May he rest in peace. Erik [1] http://www.lessig.org/2006/09/if-i-could-vote-on-the-wikiped/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
Condolences to all that knew him - very tragic - especially at such a young age. If my memory is correct (and that's a gamble) I seem to recall knowing about him more from his work on early RSS around the age of 13. I was in college doing websites at the time and recall being rather impressed with someone so young making such a widespread impact on the core of the web. -greg aka varnent On 12 Jan, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: Thanks for the information, and my condoleances to those who knew him. Sounds like a very, very interesting person. Kind regards Ziko 2013/1/12 Everton Zanella Alvarenga ezalvare...@wikimedia.org: [...] The first site I built was called get.info. The idea was to have a free, online encyclopedia that anyone could edit or add things to or reorganize, right through their web browser. I built the whole thing, added lots of cool features, tested it on all sorts of browsers, and was very proud of it. It actually won even a prize for one of the best new web applications that year. Unfortunately, the only people I knew at the time were other kids in my school, so I didn't really have anyone writing a lot of encyclopedia articles. (Luckily, several years later, my mother pointed me to this new site called Wikipedia that was doing the same thing.) [...] From How to Get a Job Like Mine https://aaronsw.jottit.com/howtoget. Thanks for the links bellow. This was a really horrible lost for all of us. Tom On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings during his election campaign are worth re-reading: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whorunswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedians http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/morewikipedias http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikicodeislaw He was also described as one of the early architects of Creative Commons by Larry Lessig [1], and founded infogami which merged into Reddit, so he's sometimes called a Reddit co-founder as well. Since then he's turned to activism and co-founded Demand Progress which has been rallying opposition to bad Internet law, including SOPA/PIPA. Cory Doctorow's obituary is a very personal goodbye and includes a video of Aaron's talk How we stopped SOPA. http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html Aaron was an intense, passionate and focused intellectual who dedicated his life to changing the world for the better - and he did. It's a shocking loss and deeply sad that he left us so early, that he saw no other way. May he rest in peace. Erik [1] http://www.lessig.org/2006/09/if-i-could-vote-on-the-wikiped/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:04 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html - d. Oh, Aaron. I remember meeting him, after reading some of his writing, and being surprised to find the person behind the mental voice, introverted and thoughtful and a little awkward, in contrast to the boldness of his blog. I considered him a friend, though I wish I'd known him better; I remember talking to him, often in a smaller gathering of nerds after some conference or event, about copyright, the open web, Wikipedia, social structures, and usually about some problem or another that existed in the world. And unlike almost anyone else, a short time later Aaron would have founded an organization or taken on some big project or pulled some crazy stunt to try to fix that problem, because that's just what he did. And sometimes he succeeded. What a huge loss. -Kat ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Your donations keep Wikipedia free: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate Web: http://www.mindspillage.org Email: k...@wikimedia.org, k...@mindspillage.org (G)AIM, Freenode, gchat, identi.ca, twitter, various social sites: mindspillage ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
A few posts if anyone here's not aware of Aaron (see also his Wikipedia bio) - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/technology/aaron-swartz-internet-activist-dies-at-26.html - http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/verysick - Aaron's blog post on himself - http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully - by Lawrence Lessig - http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013/01/academic-libraries/many-jstor-journal-archives-now-free-to-public- 3 days ago FT2 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:04 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html - d. Oh, Aaron. I remember meeting him, after reading some of his writing, and being surprised to find the person behind the mental voice, introverted and thoughtful and a little awkward, in contrast to the boldness of his blog. I considered him a friend, though I wish I'd known him better; I remember talking to him, often in a smaller gathering of nerds after some conference or event, about copyright, the open web, Wikipedia, social structures, and usually about some problem or another that existed in the world. And unlike almost anyone else, a short time later Aaron would have founded an organization or taken on some big project or pulled some crazy stunt to try to fix that problem, because that's just what he did. And sometimes he succeeded. What a huge loss. -Kat ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
This is terrible to hear. We've lost a brilliant mind far too soon. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:04 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Killed himself. http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga ezalvare...@wikimedia.org wrote: I just created an article for him on Portuguese Wikipedia. I want to improve about this On July 19, 2011, he was arrested for harvesting academic journal articles from JSTOR. Very sad. Tom This link should help expand on that, Internet activist accused of data theft. http://boingboing.net/2011/07/19/swartz.html -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
On 12 January 2013 19:37, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: A few posts if anyone here's not aware of Aaron (see also his Wikipedia bio) Even Tim Berners-Lee weighs in (and he basically keeps quiet about almost everything): https://twitter.com/timberners_lee/statuses/290140454211698689 Aaron dead. World wanderers, we have lost a wise elder. Hackers for right, we are one down. Parents all, we have lost a child. Let us weep. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/technology/aaron-swartz-internet-activist-dies-at-26.html - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard
Dear colleagues, Since November 2012, Wikivoyage is a part of the Wikimedia movement. I have come to some thoughts about this old/new project, both from the perspective of a collaborator and from the perspective of the movement. Chance: Wikivoyage has a huge potential; it may open the movement for new collaborators who were not attracted enough by Wikipedia. There is still low hanging fruit, and there are working chapters - and the WMF - to support the new family member. Integrating Wikivoyage is also a challenge for the movement, it has to prove that it is capable to do so. (And recommend itself for other wikis to join.) Bore: But, if Wikivoyage fails to make use of its potential, it will be one more Wikimedia wiki rather small and limited in range, such as Wikiquote or Wikinews. A community grown over the years may be good in binding (linking the existing members to each other), but less in bridging (being open for new members and contacting others). We see the same phenomenon (that new people find it difficult their way, or are even expelled more or less explicitly) also with Wikipedia, but on a much higher level. Also Wikipedia loses community members slowly, with difficulties acquiring new ones. Hazard: Wikipedia developed a lot of rules over the years, often after heavy debates and scandals. For example, the Seigenthaler incident and other cases of calumny led to the policy about Biographies of Living People. Wikivoyage has still a rather limited set of rules, and wishes to remain so. Wikipedia is neutral, Wikipedia uses references, while Wikivoyage allows to criticize e.g. a restaurant and does not require a source. But where is the limit between exercising one's freedom of speech and libel? Scandals can backfire to the whole movement. In my humble opinion, this is a good moment for Wikivoyagers (old and new ones alike) to engage in discussions about style, limitations, good practices, and improve the site to make it newbies easier to join. With the good will from all sides, Wikivoyage should become a chance for the movement rather than anything else. Kind regards Ziko -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht --- ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
What a dreadful loss. I never knew Aaron except through his work and his writings, but he always came across as a confident person who was truly passionate about the work that he did. We're all the poorer for his passing. My condolences to everyone on this list who knew him. Regards, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: Dear colleagues, Since November 2012, Wikivoyage is a part of the Wikimedia movement. I have come to some thoughts about this old/new project, both from the perspective of a collaborator and from the perspective of the movement. Chance: Wikivoyage has a huge potential; it may open the movement for new collaborators who were not attracted enough by Wikipedia. There is still low hanging fruit, and there are working chapters - and the WMF - to support the new family member. Integrating Wikivoyage is also a challenge for the movement, it has to prove that it is capable to do so. (And recommend itself for other wikis to join.) Bore: But, if Wikivoyage fails to make use of its potential, it will be one more Wikimedia wiki rather small and limited in range, such as Wikiquote or Wikinews. A community grown over the years may be good in binding (linking the existing members to each other), but less in bridging (being open for new members and contacting others). We see the same phenomenon (that new people find it difficult their way, or are even expelled more or less explicitly) also with Wikipedia, but on a much higher level. Also Wikipedia loses community members slowly, with difficulties acquiring new ones. Hazard: Wikipedia developed a lot of rules over the years, often after heavy debates and scandals. For example, the Seigenthaler incident and other cases of calumny led to the policy about Biographies of Living People. Wikivoyage has still a rather limited set of rules, and wishes to remain so. Wikipedia is neutral, Wikipedia uses references, while Wikivoyage allows to criticize e.g. a restaurant and does not require a source. But where is the limit between exercising one's freedom of speech and libel? Scandals can backfire to the whole movement. In my humble opinion, this is a good moment for Wikivoyagers (old and new ones alike) to engage in discussions about style, limitations, good practices, and improve the site to make it newbies easier to join. With the good will from all sides, Wikivoyage should become a chance for the movement rather than anything else. Kind regards Ziko Thanks for the thoughtful commentary Ziko. As one step toward properly welcoming Wikivoyagers... are many of them on this list? It would be cool to get some replies and short introductions from those that are. :) It might also be good to cross-post this to the Traveller's Pub in English, German, and others we can. Steven ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
Aaron explained how he originally measured Wikipedia contributions: http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/swartz2006 -- which is only linked through the bibliography he kept up on the topic http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/ which is linked at the end of the main essay. Less than a month ago we tweeted back and forth about weighting those statistics by pageviews. His best work might be his summary of Galbraith's _Predator State_: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/predatorstate when we were fellows together at the Harvard Center for Ethics, I think we annoyed everyone else with our repeated insistence that reducing economic inequality was somehow always the appropriate solution to each of the many social ills the group identified -- http://crookedtimber.org/2012/06/18/guest-review-by-aaron-swartz-chris-hayes-the-twilight-of-the-elites/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
This is the worst news of last year for Wikimedia, Aaron has been a genial and precious member of our community. But nothing really meaningful can be said or done now... Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
Official statement from the family: http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog about his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be a community project. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog -Sarah On 1/12/13 2:58 PM, James Salsman wrote: Aaron explained how he originally measured Wikipedia contributions: http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/swartz2006 -- which is only linked through the bibliography he kept up on the topic http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/ which is linked at the end of the main essay. Less than a month ago we tweeted back and forth about weighting those statistics by pageviews. His best work might be his summary of Galbraith's _Predator State_: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/predatorstate when we were fellows together at the Harvard Center for Ethics, I think we annoyed everyone else with our repeated insistence that reducing economic inequality was somehow always the appropriate solution to each of the many social ills the group identified -- http://crookedtimber.org/2012/06/18/guest-review-by-aaron-swartz-chris-hayes-the-twilight-of-the-elites/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- *Sarah Stierch* */Museumist and open culture advocate/* Visit sarahstierch.com http://sarahstierch.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage: Chance, bore, or hazard
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:45:52 -0800, Steven Walling wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: As one step toward properly welcoming Wikivoyagers... are many of them on this list? It would be cool to get some replies and short introductions from those that are. :) It might also be good to cross-post this to the Traveller's Pub in English, German, and others we can. Steven ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l Well, some of us, yes. The best place to forward it would be the Wikivoyage mailing list. If nobody does it before, I will try in the morning European time. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Official statement from the family: http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-** statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-ofhttp://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog about his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be a community project. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Bloghttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog -Sarah I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet, respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the Foundation. I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep folks posted. Steven ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
Official statement from the family: http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-** statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog about his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be a community project. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog -Sarah I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet, respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the Foundation. I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep folks posted. Hi all - sharing with you in this real sense of loss and sadness. It's hard to believe it was just a year ago that the energy around SOPA was everywhere in the Wikimedia movement, and I think it's safe to say that Aaron was so much the nucleus of that energy. Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia blog, but what I think we'd really like to do is point to a community memorial on Wikipedia or meta or wherever, where our community might be recording their thoughts on Aaron. I suspect we would also point to the memorial referenced by his family. Has anyone seen such an on-wiki memorial? Might someone be able to propose/create such a page if it doesn't already exist? There are so many voices in our community who have something to say about Aaron, it would be great to share that. jay -- Jay Walsh Senior Director, Communications WikimediaFoundation.org blog.wikimedia.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 6609, @jansonw ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
I started something on [[WP:RIP]]. On Jan 13, 2013 12:45 AM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: Official statement from the family: http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-** statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog about his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be a community project. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog -Sarah I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet, respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the Foundation. I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep folks posted. Hi all - sharing with you in this real sense of loss and sadness. It's hard to believe it was just a year ago that the energy around SOPA was everywhere in the Wikimedia movement, and I think it's safe to say that Aaron was so much the nucleus of that energy. Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia blog, but what I think we'd really like to do is point to a community memorial on Wikipedia or meta or wherever, where our community might be recording their thoughts on Aaron. I suspect we would also point to the memorial referenced by his family. Has anyone seen such an on-wiki memorial? Might someone be able to propose/create such a page if it doesn't already exist? There are so many voices in our community who have something to say about Aaron, it would be great to share that. jay -- Jay Walsh Senior Director, Communications WikimediaFoundation.org blog.wikimedia.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 6609, @jansonw ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Congrats wikivoyagers!
We're also reaching out to On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: http://www.wired.com/business/2013/01/wikivoyage/ An awesome writeup in Wired! Argh; Sarah Mitroff calls wikivoyage a new travel-focused wiki ;-( and then continues to present Wikivoyage as a new entrant into this space. It’s a great notion, but Wikivoyage is coming late to the already crowded travel industry.. The article also includes a video of Jimmy on Colbert Nation hosted at http://hulu.com which can only be seen in the USA (and Japan?). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulu This story covers the launch better, but I think it puts too much emphasis on the lawsuits: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2024997/wikipedia-launches-travel-site-wikivoyage-on-january-15.html Anyone found a better wikivoyage launch news stories that is accurate and can be accessed outside of USA and Japan? -- John Vandenberg We're also reaching out to PC World on the incorrect stuff the published in this piece, just FYI. -- Jay Walsh Senior Director, Communications WikimediaFoundation.org blog.wikimedia.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 6609, @jansonw ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead
The blog post it out now: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/12/remembering-aaron-swartz-1986-2013/ On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: Official statement from the family: http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/**post/40373383323/official-** statement-from-the-family-and-**partner-of http://soupsoup.tumblr.com/post/40373383323/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of I hope someone will perhaps write a blog post for the Wikimedia blog about his impact on the Wikimedia and free knowledge movement. This could be a community project. https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Blog https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blog -Sarah I do not know about a blog post, but a few San Francisco Wikimedians (myself included) are exploring the possibility of holding a quiet, respectful open house next week in honor of Aaron, hosted at the Foundation. I should emphasize that we haven't decided yet, since if Creative Commons or the EFF are holding events of any kind, we will likely defer to supporting that, rather than holding anything separately. I will keep folks posted. Hi all - sharing with you in this real sense of loss and sadness. It's hard to believe it was just a year ago that the energy around SOPA was everywhere in the Wikimedia movement, and I think it's safe to say that Aaron was so much the nucleus of that energy. Re a blog post - yes, we're working on something now for the Wikimedia blog, but what I think we'd really like to do is point to a community memorial on Wikipedia or meta or wherever, where our community might be recording their thoughts on Aaron. I suspect we would also point to the memorial referenced by his family. Has anyone seen such an on-wiki memorial? Might someone be able to propose/create such a page if it doesn't already exist? There are so many voices in our community who have something to say about Aaron, it would be great to share that. jay -- Jay Walsh Senior Director, Communications WikimediaFoundation.org blog.wikimedia.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 6609, @jansonw ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
