Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 110, Issue 15

[Sylvia Ventura]

Hi Victor, great initiative with a huge impact multiplier :)

Regarding identifying specific language needs you might get some good
intel connecting with groups doing work on the ground like School to
School International (Africa, in french and portuguese speaking
countries), Children International or even Unesco's Global Education
Initiative, the Global Partnership for Education or the World Bank.
Happy to facilitate conversations there.

sv

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>1. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Oliver Keyes)
>2. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Everton Zanella Alvarenga)
>3. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Abbas Mahmood)
>4. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Oona Castro)
>5. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (rupert THURNER)
>6. And content - Re:  WikiReaders4Kids (Mathias Damour)
>7. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Victor Grigas)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 15:51:59 +0100
> From: Oliver Keyes 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
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> This is totally awesome!
>
> On 5 May 2013 09:46, Manuel Schneider  wrote:
>
> > Great initiative. Actually the first time I donated real money to a
> > Wikimedia project... sort of.
> >
> > /Manuel
> >
> > Am 05.05.2013 06:27, schrieb Victor Grigas:
> > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds
> > to
> > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
> > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
> > >
> > > The campaign is here:
> > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
> > >
> > > The video is here:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
> > >
> > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
> > > please share the link with others!
> > >
> > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> > > entirely as a volunteer.
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300
> From: Everton Zanella Alvarenga 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Cc: Mailing list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
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>
> That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor.
>
> I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone tried
> to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try <
> http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da WMBR
> com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo).
>
> What about using their software  on Linux? If
> you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just
> for Windows and Mac stuff.
>
> I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South
> America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon <
> http://www.amazon.com.br/> site.
>
> Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the hardware
> source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we
> could produce locally.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas  wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to
> > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
> > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
> >
> > The campaign is here:
> > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
> >
> > The video is here:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
> >
> > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
> > please share the link with others!
> >
> > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> > entirely as a volunteer.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Victor Grig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] And content - Re: WikiReaders4Kids

[Victor Grigas]

Mathias -

This: http://schools-wikipedia.org/

is something I think would be a great option for english-speaking students,
if we can get it on the Wikireaders

Also I think I need to be clear about a possible language issue: In the USA
people like me often use the word 'kid' to mean anyone all the way up to
sometimes the age of 21 or 25, and can be interchanged with the word
'child' when referring to someone under the age of puberty.

Merci & pardon je ne parlais pas Francias :)


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Mathias Damour
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How should be token into consideration the low readability of Wikipedia,
> which was pointed out by some recent studies, as far as this device is
> devoted to children ?
> https://blog.wikimedia.org/**2012/11/29/wikimedia-research-**
> newsletter-november-2012/#**Readability_of_the_English_**
> Wikipedia.2C_Simple_Wikipedia.**2C_and_Britannica_compared
>
> There is Simple English Wikipedia as far as English is concerned. For
> other language, there is the *Wikikids* proposal that has had some activity
> recently and 2 or 3 existing and well running wiki for children.
> That's about setting a frame pulled after the existing wikis for kids, to
> make good work, associate potential editors (including children), and then
> (notably ;-)) to supply a WikiReaders4Kids with suitable and quality
> content a few years later !
> Present step is to assemble a comparison between those existing wikis to
> help to work out what should be the basic principles for such a project.
> Have a look at it !
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikikids
>
> Le 05/05/2013 06:27, Victor Grigas a écrit :
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds
>> to
>> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
>> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
>>
>> The campaign is here:
>> http://www.indiegogo.com/**projects/help-us-distribute-**
>> wikireaders-to-kids
>>
>> The video is here:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=j07ROeiaFg0
>>
>> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
>> please share the link with others!
>>
>> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
>> entirely as a volunteer.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

[Victor Grigas]

Rodrigo - Thank you for pointing out the note about Meta.

Does someone want to start a place on meta where the community can organize
how to best get these devices where they need to go? I'd love to have some
respected organizations & interested Wikipedians helping out by the end of
the week :)

I also think that this is going to be a fun distribution thing because of
all the places the wikireaders will be coming from & going to. I think all
the amazon ones are going to get bought -- but alot of those will need to
be updated.

We are also interested in finding solar battery charger manufacturers who
would want to donate a few chargers so the wikireaders dont become bricks
when their batteries are drained.




On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I somewhat wrong message volunteer Rupert. Any initiative that promotes
> inclusive dissemination of knowledge should be shared and supported by the
> Wikimedia movement, and even more when it is crowned with the work done by
> volunteers of the Movement, in this case Wikipedia .
>
> Moreover, it is clear that there will be costs other than the purchase of
> equipment.
>
> And a note, any staff of any institution of the Wikimedia Movement, is
> also part
> of the Wikimedia Movement.
>
> Vitor, just an observation, I found completely wrong you put the
> conversation in the English Wikipedia, I think you could open this
> discussion on Meta, a common site throughout the Wikimedia Movement.
>
> See you, and congratulations for the initiative.
>
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2013 15:55, Victor Grigas  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone -
> >
> > Ok a few things that people have brought up here and elsewhere:
> >
> > 1 - the manufacturer has said to us that the devices can come
> pre-installed
> > with whatever languages are already available :
> > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ and that he would help with
> > other language versions (from our dumps)  if we communicated a need for
> it.
> > I mentioned this specifically: http://schools-wikipedia.org/
> >
> > 2 - AMAZON! - yes these are the retailers sitting on overstock, we plan
> to
> > buy whatever is cheapest first (highest impact) -- and alot of people
> have
> > supersaver shipping (user:Ashstar01 too)
> >
> > 3 - recycling: scroll to the bottom: http://thewikireader.com/
> > also the key in distribution will be to find the schools that could
> REALLY
> > USE the devices, (so that they do not go to waste) so if anyone on this
> > list knows schools, please share:
> > wikireaders4k...@gmail.com
> > http://wikireaders4kids.tumblr.com/suggest
> >
> > 4 - I hope i'm not creating any conflicts of interest by being a WMF
> > staffer, please know - if i do cross some line let me know and i'll
> correct
> > myself ASAP. I really mean this please contact me if you feel that there
> is
> > any COI at all.
> >
> > 5 - also here is the .en village pump post from a few weeks ago:
> >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Free_Distribution_of_WikiReaders_to_offline_schools_around_the_world.2C_funded_by_Kickstarter.com_or_Indiegogo.com
> >
> > 6 - we are also looking into contacting battery manufacturers and solar
> > charger manufacturers to see if they would like the good press by
> donating
> > a few of their chargers & batteries to the schools that end up getting
> the
> > wikireaders.
> >
> > Thanks for your interest everyone! As of me writing this, we are already
> at
> > $505 USD and I expect that alot of people are away from their computers
> for
> > the weekend and will see the campaign on Monday when they get to work.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Oona Castro 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Victor,
> > > hope you're well.
> > >
> > > I found the campaign awsome and will be donating some money.
> > > I was wondering whether that would be nice to donate some of them to
> the
> > > global south, though import taxes might be an issue, as well as the
> fact
> > > that it comes with the English Wikipedia and downloading other
> languages
> > is
> > > not that intuitive, though it's possible.
> > >
> > > Perhaps we could do the work of dowloading different languages and
> make a
> > > contest to give them to a few here in Brazil, in India, Argentina,
> Egypt,
> > > elsewhere?
> > >
> > > The other thing I though of was: I recently was gifted by Henrique with
> > one
> > > of those and in Amazon it's being sold by less than 10 dollars. So I
> > think
> > > you may get a good bargain for less than US$ 25 if you talk through it.
> > >
> > > let me know what you think
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Oona
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > All the best, Victor!
> > > > Abbas.
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300
> > > > > From: t...@wikimedia.org
> > > > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > > CC: wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

[Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]

I somewhat wrong message volunteer Rupert. Any initiative that promotes
inclusive dissemination of knowledge should be shared and supported by the
Wikimedia movement, and even more when it is crowned with the work done by
volunteers of the Movement, in this case Wikipedia .

Moreover, it is clear that there will be costs other than the purchase of
equipment.

And a note, any staff of any institution of the Wikimedia Movement, is
also part
of the Wikimedia Movement.

Vitor, just an observation, I found completely wrong you put the
conversation in the English Wikipedia, I think you could open this
discussion on Meta, a common site throughout the Wikimedia Movement.

See you, and congratulations for the initiative.




On 5 May 2013 15:55, Victor Grigas  wrote:

> Hi everyone -
>
> Ok a few things that people have brought up here and elsewhere:
>
> 1 - the manufacturer has said to us that the devices can come pre-installed
> with whatever languages are already available :
> http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ and that he would help with
> other language versions (from our dumps)  if we communicated a need for it.
> I mentioned this specifically: http://schools-wikipedia.org/
>
> 2 - AMAZON! - yes these are the retailers sitting on overstock, we plan to
> buy whatever is cheapest first (highest impact) -- and alot of people have
> supersaver shipping (user:Ashstar01 too)
>
> 3 - recycling: scroll to the bottom: http://thewikireader.com/
> also the key in distribution will be to find the schools that could REALLY
> USE the devices, (so that they do not go to waste) so if anyone on this
> list knows schools, please share:
> wikireaders4k...@gmail.com
> http://wikireaders4kids.tumblr.com/suggest
>
> 4 - I hope i'm not creating any conflicts of interest by being a WMF
> staffer, please know - if i do cross some line let me know and i'll correct
> myself ASAP. I really mean this please contact me if you feel that there is
> any COI at all.
>
> 5 - also here is the .en village pump post from a few weeks ago:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Free_Distribution_of_WikiReaders_to_offline_schools_around_the_world.2C_funded_by_Kickstarter.com_or_Indiegogo.com
>
> 6 - we are also looking into contacting battery manufacturers and solar
> charger manufacturers to see if they would like the good press by donating
> a few of their chargers & batteries to the schools that end up getting the
> wikireaders.
>
> Thanks for your interest everyone! As of me writing this, we are already at
> $505 USD and I expect that alot of people are away from their computers for
> the weekend and will see the campaign on Monday when they get to work.
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Oona Castro 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Victor,
> > hope you're well.
> >
> > I found the campaign awsome and will be donating some money.
> > I was wondering whether that would be nice to donate some of them to the
> > global south, though import taxes might be an issue, as well as the fact
> > that it comes with the English Wikipedia and downloading other languages
> is
> > not that intuitive, though it's possible.
> >
> > Perhaps we could do the work of dowloading different languages and make a
> > contest to give them to a few here in Brazil, in India, Argentina, Egypt,
> > elsewhere?
> >
> > The other thing I though of was: I recently was gifted by Henrique with
> one
> > of those and in Amazon it's being sold by less than 10 dollars. So I
> think
> > you may get a good bargain for less than US$ 25 if you talk through it.
> >
> > let me know what you think
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Oona
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All the best, Victor!
> > > Abbas.
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300
> > > > From: t...@wikimedia.org
> > > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > CC: wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
> > > >
> > > > That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor.
> > > >
> > > > I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone
> > > tried
> > > > to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try <
> > > > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém
> da
> > > WMBR
> > > > com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo).
> > > >
> > > > What about using their software  on
> Linux?
> > If
> > > > you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are
> > just
> > > > for Windows and Mac stuff.
> > > >
> > > > I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South
> > > > America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon <
> > > > http://www.amazon.com.br/> site.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the
> > > hardware
> > > > source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows
> we
> > > > could produce locally.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids (Victor Grigas)

[Fabrice Florin]

Very cool idea!

I just donated and tweeted about it.

It's a really clever way to spread free knowledge to kids who need it the most.

Well done, you guys!


Fabrice


On May 5, 2013, at 11:55 AM, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 15:51:59 +0100
> From: Oliver Keyes 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> This is totally awesome!
> 
> On 5 May 2013 09:46, Manuel Schneider  wrote:
> 
>> Great initiative. Actually the first time I donated real money to a
>> Wikimedia project... sort of.
>> 
>> /Manuel
>> 
>> Am 05.05.2013 06:27, schrieb Victor Grigas:
>>> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds
>> to
>>> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
>>> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
>>> 
>>> The campaign is here:
>>> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
>>> 
>>> The video is here:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
>>> 
>>> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
>>> please share the link with others!
>>> 
>>> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
>>> entirely as a volunteer.
>> 
>> --
>> Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
>> Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Oliver Keyes
> Community Liaison, Product Development
> Wikimedia Foundation
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300
> From: Everton Zanella Alvarenga 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Cc: Mailing list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia.
>   
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor.
> 
> I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone tried
> to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try <
> http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da WMBR
> com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo).
> 
> What about using their software  on Linux? If
> you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just
> for Windows and Mac stuff.
> 
> I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South
> America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon <
> http://www.amazon.com.br/> site.
> 
> Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the hardware
> source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we
> could produce locally.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to
>> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
>> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
>> 
>> The campaign is here:
>> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
>> 
>> The video is here:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
>> 
>> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
>> please share the link with others!
>> 
>> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
>> entirely as a volunteer.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> *Victor Grigas*
>> Storyteller 
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> vgri...@wikimedia.org
>> +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773
>> 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor
>> San Francisco, CA 94105
>> https://donate.wikimedia.org/
>> ___
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>> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom)
> "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful
> than a life spent doing nothing."
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 17:01:25 +
> From: Abbas Mahmood 
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> All the best, Victor!
> Abbas.
> 
>> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300
>> From: t...@wikimedia.org
>> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> CC: wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
>> 
>> That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor.
>> 
>> I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago.

[Wikimedia-l] Ting's resignation, Thank you for five great years

[Jan-Bart de Vreede]

Hi Everyone,

As today is the day that Ting's resignation from the Board of Trustees becomes 
effective I would like to take this opportunity to thank him for the tremendous 
contribution he has made to the board over the past five years. I did not know 
Ting when he joined our board but from what I heard we were lucky that the 
community elected him. And that certainly proved to be the case. In my opinion 
a board functions best when there are many divergent opinions at the table who 
are able to discuss matters in a sensible and constructive way in order to come 
to creative solutions. Ting certainly contributed his uniqueness to that mix 
over the past five years, and I am grateful that he was able to make as much 
time available as he did in order to remain on the board for such a long time. 
Apart from being a really really nice person Ting has a lot of wisdom 
(something which he will probably deny ;)

As some of you might know I ran against Ting for the Chair position of the 
Board of Trustees in 2010 and lost. At that time I thought that I was 
definitely the better candidate but the following two years proved me wrong. I 
was happy to serve as his vice chair during the second year. His diligent way 
of going about things made sure that a lot of things got done during his tenure 
as chair and also ensured that all the voices at the table got heard. Ting was 
always willing to go and visit a local chapter or a Wikimedia event in order to 
represent the board and Foundation. His unwavering principles and spirited way 
of discussing topics about which he is passionate (of which there are several) 
are an inspiration. At the same time he was more than willing to listen to all 
the different viewpoints and able to change his mind if others presented valid 
arguments (something which sounds simple but with which a lot of people, 
including myself, have difficulty with ;) During several different discussions 
Ting managed to convince me of the fact that his viewpoint was the correct one, 
and I will miss his input in the future.

As is tradition Ting will attend the next Wikimania (Hong Kong here we come!) 
and we will take that opportunity to formally thank him for his efforts for the 
Wikimedia Board of Trustees. I hope you will all join me in this :)

Thank you Ting! I am not sure how or when, but I hope that our paths will cross 
again in the coming years!

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

[Victor Grigas]

Hi everyone -

Ok a few things that people have brought up here and elsewhere:

1 - the manufacturer has said to us that the devices can come pre-installed
with whatever languages are already available :
http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ and that he would help with
other language versions (from our dumps)  if we communicated a need for it.
I mentioned this specifically: http://schools-wikipedia.org/

2 - AMAZON! - yes these are the retailers sitting on overstock, we plan to
buy whatever is cheapest first (highest impact) -- and alot of people have
supersaver shipping (user:Ashstar01 too)

3 - recycling: scroll to the bottom: http://thewikireader.com/
also the key in distribution will be to find the schools that could REALLY
USE the devices, (so that they do not go to waste) so if anyone on this
list knows schools, please share:
wikireaders4k...@gmail.com
http://wikireaders4kids.tumblr.com/suggest

4 - I hope i'm not creating any conflicts of interest by being a WMF
staffer, please know - if i do cross some line let me know and i'll correct
myself ASAP. I really mean this please contact me if you feel that there is
any COI at all.

5 - also here is the .en village pump post from a few weeks ago:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Free_Distribution_of_WikiReaders_to_offline_schools_around_the_world.2C_funded_by_Kickstarter.com_or_Indiegogo.com

6 - we are also looking into contacting battery manufacturers and solar
charger manufacturers to see if they would like the good press by donating
a few of their chargers & batteries to the schools that end up getting the
wikireaders.

Thanks for your interest everyone! As of me writing this, we are already at
$505 USD and I expect that alot of people are away from their computers for
the weekend and will see the campaign on Monday when they get to work.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Oona Castro  wrote:

> Hi Victor,
> hope you're well.
>
> I found the campaign awsome and will be donating some money.
> I was wondering whether that would be nice to donate some of them to the
> global south, though import taxes might be an issue, as well as the fact
> that it comes with the English Wikipedia and downloading other languages is
> not that intuitive, though it's possible.
>
> Perhaps we could do the work of dowloading different languages and make a
> contest to give them to a few here in Brazil, in India, Argentina, Egypt,
> elsewhere?
>
> The other thing I though of was: I recently was gifted by Henrique with one
> of those and in Amazon it's being sold by less than 10 dollars. So I think
> you may get a good bargain for less than US$ 25 if you talk through it.
>
> let me know what you think
>
> Best regards
>
> Oona
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood 
> wrote:
>
> > All the best, Victor!
> > Abbas.
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300
> > > From: t...@wikimedia.org
> > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > CC: wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
> > >
> > > That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor.
> > >
> > > I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone
> > tried
> > > to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try <
> > > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da
> > WMBR
> > > com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo).
> > >
> > > What about using their software  on Linux?
> If
> > > you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are
> just
> > > for Windows and Mac stuff.
> > >
> > > I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South
> > > America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon <
> > > http://www.amazon.com.br/> site.
> > >
> > > Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the
> > hardware
> > > source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we
> > > could produce locally.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise
> > funds to
> > > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids
> > in
> > > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
> > > >
> > > > The campaign is here:
> > > >
> > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
> > > >
> > > > The video is here:
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
> > > >
> > > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the
> > campaign,
> > > > please share the link with others!
> > > >
> > > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> > > > entirely as a volunteer.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > *Victor Grigas*
> > > > Storyteller 
> > > > Wikimedia Fou

[Wikimedia-l] And content - Re: WikiReaders4Kids

[Mathias Damour]

Hi,

How should be token into consideration the low readability of Wikipedia, 
which was pointed out by some recent studies, as far as this device is 
devoted to children ?

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/11/29/wikimedia-research-newsletter-november-2012/#Readability_of_the_English_Wikipedia.2C_Simple_Wikipedia.2C_and_Britannica_compared

There is Simple English Wikipedia as far as English is concerned. For 
other language, there is the *Wikikids* proposal that has had some 
activity recently and 2 or 3 existing and well running wiki for children.
That's about setting a frame pulled after the existing wikis for kids, 
to make good work, associate potential editors (including children), and 
then (notably ;-)) to supply a WikiReaders4Kids with suitable and 
quality content a few years later !
Present step is to assemble a comparison between those existing wikis to 
help to work out what should be the basic principles for such a project.

Have a look at it !
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids

Le 05/05/2013 06:27, Victor Grigas a écrit :

Hello everyone,

My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to
buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.

The campaign is here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids

The video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0

Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
please share the link with others!

While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
entirely as a volunteer.

Thanks!


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

[rupert THURNER]

hehehe, victor, you are cool. because its a private initiative you use
your wikimedia mail account to advertise for it, in the video you make
sure that everybody konws you work for wikimedia foundation? the price
you give is interesting as well. on your money collection page you
write the devices cost 25 usd. on amazon they sell it for 9 usd. the
original price 5 years ago was 99 usd, where one could have a 29 usd
subscription to get the contents updated.

i do not have a problem with all of this. i like your work you do, i
like the enthusiasm, i like that you guys do this voluntary. and i
especially like that you are able to think big.

but what really stroke me: you say you would not buy it. if you would
not buy it, what makes you so sure that it will be of use for somebody
else? for children who like to see pictures? probably not. for adults
who will have smartphones in 2 years time? probably not as well.

you might be interested in reading the report of the united nations
environment program coming out of the "E-Waste Africa Project":
http://www.basel.int/Implementation/TechnicalAssistance/EWaste/EwasteAfricaProject/tabid/2546/Default.aspx?overlayId=ArtId-468

"Africa has been undergoing rapid ICT transformation in recent years,
attempting to bridge this divide by importing second-hand or used
computers, mobile phones, and TVsets from developed countries. The
countries of the region, however, lack the infrastructure and
resources for the environmentally sound management (ESM) of electrical
and electronic waste (e-waste) arising when such imports reach their
end-of-life."

rupert.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Victor Grigas  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to
> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
>
> The campaign is here:
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
>
> The video is here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
>
> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
> please share the link with others!
>
> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> entirely as a volunteer.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
> *Victor Grigas*
> Storyteller 
> Wikimedia Foundation
> vgri...@wikimedia.org
> +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773
> 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor
> San Francisco, CA 94105
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

[Oona Castro]

Hi Victor,
hope you're well.

I found the campaign awsome and will be donating some money.
I was wondering whether that would be nice to donate some of them to the
global south, though import taxes might be an issue, as well as the fact
that it comes with the English Wikipedia and downloading other languages is
not that intuitive, though it's possible.

Perhaps we could do the work of dowloading different languages and make a
contest to give them to a few here in Brazil, in India, Argentina, Egypt,
elsewhere?

The other thing I though of was: I recently was gifted by Henrique with one
of those and in Amazon it's being sold by less than 10 dollars. So I think
you may get a good bargain for less than US$ 25 if you talk through it.

let me know what you think

Best regards

Oona


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:

> All the best, Victor!
> Abbas.
>
> > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300
> > From: t...@wikimedia.org
> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > CC: wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
> >
> > That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor.
> >
> > I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone
> tried
> > to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try <
> > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da
> WMBR
> > com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo).
> >
> > What about using their software  on Linux? If
> > you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just
> > for Windows and Mac stuff.
> >
> > I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South
> > America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon <
> > http://www.amazon.com.br/> site.
> >
> > Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the
> hardware
> > source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we
> > could produce locally.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise
> funds to
> > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids
> in
> > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
> > >
> > > The campaign is here:
> > >
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
> > >
> > > The video is here:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
> > >
> > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the
> campaign,
> > > please share the link with others!
> > >
> > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> > > entirely as a volunteer.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > *Victor Grigas*
> > > Storyteller 
> > > Wikimedia Foundation
> > > vgri...@wikimedia.org
> > > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773
> > > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

[Abbas Mahmood]

All the best, Victor!
Abbas.

> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300
> From: t...@wikimedia.org
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> CC: wikimediab...@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids
> 
> That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor.
> 
> I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone tried
> to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try <
> http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da WMBR
> com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo).
> 
> What about using their software  on Linux? If
> you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just
> for Windows and Mac stuff.
> 
> I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South
> America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon <
> http://www.amazon.com.br/> site.
> 
> Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the hardware
> source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we
> could produce locally.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas  wrote:
> 
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to
> > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
> > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
> >
> > The campaign is here:
> > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
> >
> > The video is here:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
> >
> > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
> > please share the link with others!
> >
> > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> > entirely as a volunteer.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Victor Grigas*
> > Storyteller 
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> > vgri...@wikimedia.org
> > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773
> > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

[Everton Zanella Alvarenga]

That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor.

I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone tried
to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try <
http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da WMBR
com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo).

What about using their software  on Linux? If
you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just
for Windows and Mac stuff.

I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South
America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon <
http://www.amazon.com.br/> site.

Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the hardware
source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we
could produce locally.

Tom


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to
> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
>
> The campaign is here:
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
>
> The video is here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
>
> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
> please share the link with others!
>
> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> entirely as a volunteer.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
> *Victor Grigas*
> Storyteller 
> Wikimedia Foundation
> vgri...@wikimedia.org
> +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773
> 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor
> San Francisco, CA 94105
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids

[Oliver Keyes]

This is totally awesome!

On 5 May 2013 09:46, Manuel Schneider  wrote:

> Great initiative. Actually the first time I donated real money to a
> Wikimedia project... sort of.
>
> /Manuel
>
> Am 05.05.2013 06:27, schrieb Victor Grigas:
> > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds
> to
> > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
> > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
> >
> > The campaign is here:
> > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
> >
> > The video is here:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
> >
> > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
> > please share the link with others!
> >
> > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> > entirely as a volunteer.
>
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[Manuel Schneider]

Great initiative. Actually the first time I donated real money to a
Wikimedia project... sort of.

/Manuel

Am 05.05.2013 06:27, schrieb Victor Grigas:
> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to
> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in
> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids.
> 
> The campaign is here:
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids
> 
> The video is here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0
> 
> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign,
> please share the link with others!
> 
> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this
> entirely as a volunteer.

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