Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM
Le 2013-06-11 14:09, Fred Bauder a écrit : There will always be humans maintaining the system who must, in order to do their work, have potential access to everything. A potential access to everything is a so vast and vague assertion that it practicaly denote nothing. Also, one could come with the exact opposite assertion, full of always/never nothing/everything. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediach-l] Wikimedia CH is hiring two new staff
That sounds interesting! What does a Chapter's Chief Scientific Officer do? On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:05:45 +0200 Von:Chantal Ebongué chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch Dear all, We are looking for two new staff members : 1. Chief Administrative Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013 2. Chief Scientific Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013 Ads are also published on www.wikimedia.ch, www.jobs.ch and www.linkedin.com. Applications (or request for information) can be send to me or to i...@wikimedia.ch. Please inform you network ! Regards Chantal Ebongué, CAO *Wikimedia CH - *www.wikimedia.ch http://www.wikimedia.ch/ Escaliers-du-Marché 2 - 1003 Lausanne - Switzerland Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 - cell phone +41 (0)78 744 21 82 Skype : chantal.ebongue - chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch mailto:chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediach-l] Wikimedia CH is hiring two new staff
https://www.wikimedia.ch/scientific-director Reporting directly to the board and working in close collaboration with the Chief Administrative Officer, the CSO will be responsible for all the free knowledge related projects conducted inside the association. He/she will work with the community, the Wikimedia movement and other partners in order to achieve our goals. He/she will actively search and promote collaborations with external partners (cultural institutions in particular). He/she will search for external funding, and will be in particular responsible for the annual grant request to the Wikimedia Foundation. He/she will manage the annual call for projects, making recommendations to the board with regards to the annual plan. He/she will directly manage staff and contractors working on projects, will lead some of the projects, will be responsible for the delivery of reports and will manage the communication. He/she will also participate in the strategic management of the association Regards . On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: That sounds interesting! What does a Chapter's Chief Scientific Officer do? On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:05:45 +0200 Von:Chantal Ebongué chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch Dear all, We are looking for two new staff members : 1. Chief Administrative Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013 2. Chief Scientific Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013 Ads are also published on www.wikimedia.ch, www.jobs.ch and www.linkedin.com. Applications (or request for information) can be send to me or to i...@wikimedia.ch. Please inform you network ! Regards Chantal Ebongué, CAO *Wikimedia CH - *www.wikimedia.ch http://www.wikimedia.ch/ Escaliers-du-Marché 2 - 1003 Lausanne - Switzerland Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 - cell phone +41 (0)78 744 21 82 Skype : chantal.ebongue - chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch mailto:chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee first progress reports
Katy Love, 11/06/2013 22:52: [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round1/Staff_summary/Progress_report_form/Q1 Funny: «WMF notes [stats]», «WMFR claims [stats]». Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee first progress reports
Given that this is an assessment that is being performed by paid staff, I think it's unreasonable to think that the staff would issue more than very mild criticism (Your report is so great it makes everyone else look terrible!), even if the report was so poor as to deserve criticism. I'm not saying that it *is*, but I don't think anyone that values their job would carpet their employer in a public forum, even if the employer invited them to do so. There should certainly be a note in this report to declare the massive COI involved in having WMF staff 'critically' assessing a WMF report. That said, I do find the assessment for everyone else useful in terms of seeing what the WMF staff will think, and I'm sure that chapters considering an FDC application will take that on board. I am a little disappointed at the focus by WMF staff on quantitative metrics over everything else, which I think may have the unfortunate side-effect of encouraging entities to go after easily measurable activities rather than the most effective and worthwhile activities. Hopefully this will be taken into account on future assessments. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 12 June 2013 20:52, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Katy Love, 11/06/2013 22:52: [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/** 2012-2013_round1/Staff_**summary/Progress_report_form/**Q1http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round1/Staff_summary/Progress_report_form/Q1 Funny: «WMF notes [stats]», «WMFR claims [stats]». Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies
Alex 2013/6/6 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Ziko van Dijk, 06/06/2013 15:00: I also think that it should not be seen as blasphemy when someone suggests to reconsider a Wikimedia project. (Remember Asaf's session in Milan.) Isn't Wikispecies not already redundant because in Wikipedia every species is notable anyway? What Wikipedia are you talking of? sv.wiki, en.wiki, others or all? Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funds Dissemination Committee first progress reports
Hi Katy, thanks for sharing. As a minor suggestion, to me it would be helpful if you could be a little more specific than 'we' in your responses. Are you in those instances speaking for your own (with your specific expertise), for a group of WMF staffers, for the FDC, for the whole Foundation etc? Knowing that would make it a bit more insightful. Lodewijk 2013/6/12 Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net Given that this is an assessment that is being performed by paid staff, I think it's unreasonable to think that the staff would issue more than very mild criticism (Your report is so great it makes everyone else look terrible!), even if the report was so poor as to deserve criticism. I'm not saying that it *is*, but I don't think anyone that values their job would carpet their employer in a public forum, even if the employer invited them to do so. There should certainly be a note in this report to declare the massive COI involved in having WMF staff 'critically' assessing a WMF report. That said, I do find the assessment for everyone else useful in terms of seeing what the WMF staff will think, and I'm sure that chapters considering an FDC application will take that on board. I am a little disappointed at the focus by WMF staff on quantitative metrics over everything else, which I think may have the unfortunate side-effect of encouraging entities to go after easily measurable activities rather than the most effective and worthwhile activities. Hopefully this will be taken into account on future assessments. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 12 June 2013 20:52, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Katy Love, 11/06/2013 22:52: [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/** 2012-2013_round1/Staff_**summary/Progress_report_form/**Q1 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round1/Staff_summary/Progress_report_form/Q1 Funny: «WMF notes [stats]», «WMFR claims [stats]». Nemo __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language Engineering office hour on 2013-06-12 at 17:00 UTC/10:00 PDT
Reminder: This office hour will be in a little over an hour from the time of sending. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) smazel...@wikimedia.org wrote: Event Details # Date: 2013-06-12 # Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 1000-1100 PDT #IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net The Wikimedia Language Engineering team [1] invites everyone to join the team’s monthly office hour on June 12, 2013 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT in #wikimedia-office. During this session we would be talking about some our recent activities and updates from the ongoing projects. The provisional agenda is outlined below. See you all at the IRC office hour! Siebrand Mazeland Product Manager Language Engineering Wikimedia Foundation Agenda # Introductions # Universal Language Selector - Phase 1 deployment was on Tuesday 2013-06-11 [2,3,4] # Universal Language Selector - Phase 2 and later # Q/A - We shall be taking questions during the session. Questions can also be sent to siebrand at wikimedia dot org before the event, and will be addressed during the office hour. [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Language_Engineering_team [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/FAQ [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/Design ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM
I encourage everyone to join the StopWatching campaign, individually. It also seems like the right thing for Wikimedia to stand for; our projects are among the more prominent supporters of anonymous and pseudonymous knowledge-work on the web. SJ On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote: [+ Advocacy Advisors] On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we as individuals, or the WMF as an organisation, might also like to sign up to Mozilla's campaign stopwatching.us? Blogpost - https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/06/11/stopwatching-us-mozilla-launches-massive-campaign-on-digital-surveillance/ Website - https://optin.stopwatching.us/ I note from the selected list of organisations that have already signed (of whom several are our frequent allies) we would be in good company. Hi, Liam- Participating in StopWatching is definitely one of the options. For WMF to get involved in that way, there needs to be a consultation with the Advocacy Advisors list and (time permitting) an RFC. By following that process, we can be sure that the actions WMF takes are consistent with community's opinion on the topic. If you think WMF should be more involved, we (as always) invite and encourage you to start an RFC or discussion on Advocacy Advisors. We would pay close attention to those, and use them to help us guide our next steps. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do to support, of course. (Our full internal policy is at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline#Collaborative_Advocacy). Thanks- Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies
Hoi, A species database does not contain the same information you are likely to find in an encyclopaedia. When you want to be comprehensive in a database about species, you will include many revisions of genera, of species and more. When you care about such things, have a look at IPNI. Thanks, Gerard http://ipni.org/ On 6 June 2013 15:00, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: Hello, I also think that it should not be seen as blasphemy when someone suggests to reconsider a Wikimedia project. (Remember Asaf's session in Milan.) Isn't Wikispecies not already redundant because in Wikipedia every species is notable anyway? Kind regards Ziko Am Montag, 3. Juni 2013 schrieb Gerard Meijssen : Hoi, Taxonomy is not the thing that occupies me. It is however something I have experience with.. Everyone who knows anything about the taxonomy of plants can confirm that a taxon without publishing details is incomplete. Thanks, Gerard On 3 June 2013 17:03, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com javascript:; wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com javascript:;wrote: Really, taxonomy is tricky. FYI I have an 80 MB database with ONLY cacti and succulents. I learned a lot in the process. So, have you imported that to Wikidata yet? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies
Ah, thanks for the information. And this encyclopedia of life, isn't that the project suitable? Kind regards Ziko Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl 2013/6/12 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, A species database does not contain the same information you are likely to find in an encyclopaedia. When you want to be comprehensive in a database about species, you will include many revisions of genera, of species and more. When you care about such things, have a look at IPNI. Thanks, Gerard http://ipni.org/ On 6 June 2013 15:00, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: Hello, I also think that it should not be seen as blasphemy when someone suggests to reconsider a Wikimedia project. (Remember Asaf's session in Milan.) Isn't Wikispecies not already redundant because in Wikipedia every species is notable anyway? Kind regards Ziko Am Montag, 3. Juni 2013 schrieb Gerard Meijssen : Hoi, Taxonomy is not the thing that occupies me. It is however something I have experience with.. Everyone who knows anything about the taxonomy of plants can confirm that a taxon without publishing details is incomplete. Thanks, Gerard On 3 June 2013 17:03, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com javascript:; wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com javascript:;wrote: Really, taxonomy is tricky. FYI I have an 80 MB database with ONLY cacti and succulents. I learned a lot in the process. So, have you imported that to Wikidata yet? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediach-l] Wikimedia CH is hiring two new staff
Isn't that more program/project management rather than science? Thanks, Mike On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:53, Ilario Valdelli wrote: https://www.wikimedia.ch/scientific-director Reporting directly to the board and working in close collaboration with the Chief Administrative Officer, the CSO will be responsible for all the free knowledge related projects conducted inside the association. He/she will work with the community, the Wikimedia movement and other partners in order to achieve our goals. He/she will actively search and promote collaborations with external partners (cultural institutions in particular). He/she will search for external funding, and will be in particular responsible for the annual grant request to the Wikimedia Foundation. He/she will manage the annual call for projects, making recommendations to the board with regards to the annual plan. He/she will directly manage staff and contractors working on projects, will lead some of the projects, will be responsible for the delivery of reports and will manage the communication. He/she will also participate in the strategic management of the association Regards . On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: That sounds interesting! What does a Chapter's Chief Scientific Officer do? On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:05:45 +0200 Von:Chantal Ebongué chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch Dear all, We are looking for two new staff members : 1. Chief Administrative Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013 2. Chief Scientific Officer, 80-100 %, since 1.9.2013 Ads are also published on www.wikimedia.ch, www.jobs.ch and www.linkedin.com. Applications (or request for information) can be send to me or to i...@wikimedia.ch. Please inform you network ! Regards Chantal Ebongué, CAO *Wikimedia CH - *www.wikimedia.ch http://www.wikimedia.ch/ Escaliers-du-Marché 2 - 1003 Lausanne - Switzerland Office +41 (0)21 340 66 20 - cell phone +41 (0)78 744 21 82 Skype : chantal.ebongue - chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch mailto:chantal.ebon...@wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM
Le 2013-06-11 14:09, Fred Bauder a écrit : There will always be humans maintaining the system who must, in order to do their work, have potential access to everything. A potential access to everything is a so vast and vague assertion that it practicaly denote nothing. Also, one could come with the exact opposite assertion, full of always/never nothing/everything. We hack network backbones like huge internet routers, basically that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/edward-snowden-us-extradition-fight Fred ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediach-l] Wikimedia CH is hiring two new staff
I don't know exactly the selection of this definition, but I suppose that it has been due to the choice to don't be project manager because any project has its own project manager. He is project manager in some cases but for other projects is mainly a supervisor. About the projects I would say that WM CH is focusing the efforts mainly in scientific projects. Scientific means not only science but is connected with the approach had in the projects (also a project in the literature may be scientific). I think that his effort is mainly focused to give to the projects a scientific approach in order to give to the projects more quality. Regards On 12.06.2013 22:47, Mike Peel wrote: Isn't that more program/project management rather than science? Thanks, Mike On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:53, Ilario Valdelli wrote: https://www.wikimedia.ch/scientific-director Reporting directly to the board and working in close collaboration with the Chief Administrative Officer, the CSO will be responsible for all the free knowledge related projects conducted inside the association. He/she will work with the community, the Wikimedia movement and other partners in order to achieve our goals. He/she will actively search and promote collaborations with external partners (cultural institutions in particular). He/she will search for external funding, and will be in particular responsible for the annual grant request to the Wikimedia Foundation. He/she will manage the annual call for projects, making recommendations to the board with regards to the annual plan. He/she will directly manage staff and contractors working on projects, will lead some of the projects, will be responsible for the delivery of reports and will manage the communication. He/she will also participate in the strategic management of the association Regards . -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
