Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
If you post a creative work on a website the purpose which is to share files you have assumed the rights of the owner, one of which is to determine the conditions which must be met to view or listen to the work. The owner can give his work away to the world but not third parties. Fred What are you saying has been stolen here? The work itself, the copy of it, or the copyright in the work? There are serious problems in trying to bend the law of theft to any of them. It is easiest to analyze if the work has never been published. Distributing it then is a taking of intellectual property regardless of whether the original is physically taken or only a copy. The theft is of the possible gain lost. Actually, rather like claim jumping. It is not the ore that is lost but the right to mine it and profit from it. Fred ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
On 10 July 2013 07:51, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: It is easiest to analyze if the work has never been published. Distributing it then is a taking of intellectual property regardless of whether the original is physically taken or only a copy. The theft is of the possible gain lost. Actually, rather like claim jumping. It is not the ore that is lost but the right to mine it and profit from it. Fred, what's your actual point and suggested course of action with this thread, and what does it have to do with the original starting point? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
On Jul 10, 2013 8:59 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 July 2013 07:51, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: It is easiest to analyze if the work has never been published. Distributing it then is a taking of intellectual property regardless of whether the original is physically taken or only a copy. The theft is of the possible gain lost. Actually, rather like claim jumping. It is not the ore that is lost but the right to mine it and profit from it. Fred, what's your actual point and suggested course of action with this thread, and what does it have to do with the original starting point? - d. +1. Could we abandon the discussion whether or not copyright violation is theft or not ASAP, and get this thread back to what we can do about the possible shutdown of Russian Wikipedia? The copyright status could be interesting for a different thread and/or meta. The discussion copyvio vs theft may be nice for irc or Usenet or something. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Language Engineering] Reminder: Office hour on July 10, 2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT
Hello, This is a reminder that the Language Engineering team will be hosting an IRC office hour later today, i.e. July 10, 2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT on #wikimedia-office (Freenode). Thanks Runa Agenda: == 1. ULS Rollout 2. Other updates 3. Q/A - We shall be taking questions during the session. Questions can also be sent to runa at wikimedia dot org or siebrand at wikimedia dot org before the event and can be addressed during the office-hour. -- Forwarded message -- From: Runa Bhattacharjee rbhattachar...@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:11 PM Subject: [Language Engineering] Office hour on July 10, 2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team [1] invites everyone to join the team’s monthly office hour on July 10, 2013 at 1700 UTC/ 1000 PDT on #wikimedia-office. During this session we would be talking about some of our recent activities, including the Universal Language Selector (ULS) rollout and updates from the ongoing projects. See you all at the IRC office hour! regards, Runa Event Details: == Date: July 10, 2013 (Wednesday) Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 1000-1100 AM PDT IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net Agenda: 1. ULS Rollout 2. Other updates 3. Q/A - We shall be taking questions during the session. Questions can also be sent to runa at wikimedia dot org or siebrand at wikimedia dot org before the event and can be addressed during the office-hour. [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Language_Engineering_team -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Nederland in June
Our report for June is now available. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Nederland/201306 It is also included in this message as plain text. COMMUNITY: supporting and mobilising volunteers and editors - World War I Editathon As part of an international initiative focussing on Wikipedia coverage of the First World War, a small editathon took place in Museum Huis Doorn on June 29. Only a few people attended, reflecting the limited interest in World War I in the Netherlands. The event however could be the basis for stronger cooperation with Museum Huis Doorn in the future. WORK: content, collaboration and activity development - Behind the scenes at the National Library and National Archives On 8 June 2013 the Koninklijke Bibliotheek and Nationaal Archief of the Netherlands were open for Wikipedians for a tour behind the scenes. More than 30 people came to learn more about the work and collections of KB and NA. Experts from both organisations presented examples of outreach using open data from the public collections, outlined future developments and invited collaboration with the Wikimedia community. Overall aim is to add to and improve content on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects by making use of the collections of Archives and Library. The presentations given by staff are online at wmnl:Backstage event KB NA 8-6-2013http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Backstage_event_KB_%26_NA_8-6-2013(in Dutch). - Meetings and potential new partners. There have been talks with several new potential partners in The Netherlands which may lead to new cooperation activities in the future. - the Maritime Museumhttp://www.maritiemmuseum.nl/website/index.cfm?itm_id=96is interested in edit-a-thons for their exhibitions, - The New Institute http://thenewinstitute.nl/ showed interest in donating content, - Boek.be http://www.boek.be/ contacted WMNL to discuss the possibility to reuse Wikipedia content for their data services, - The Communication and Multimedia Design Department at the the University of Applied Science in Utrecht might be interested in partnering for their Museum Battleshttp://www.museumkompas.nl/museumbattle-more-than-concepting-in-a-pressure-cooker . WMNL: participation and supportNew website First steps were made towards improving the WMNL website, which will focus especially on providing information about WMNL activities for the wider public. The revamped website will also have better interactive options and will make it easier to sign up for events. RESOURCES: Strong and sustainable financial position - Funding request granted WMNL submitted a request for funding to the Fonds 1818 for activities in the city The Hague within the framework of Wiki Loves Monuments. The request was granted, enabling WMNL to organise an editathon, a photo-hunt and other activities focussing on the historical monuments of The Hague. - Survey among donors A small survey among people who gave money directly to WMNL showed that they generally have a positive impression of WMNL and are inclined to give money again. They would like to be informed more frequently about developments and activities. GLOBAL: International collaboration - WCA WCAC Member Ziko van Dijk took part in the WCA phone conference on June 16. ORGANISATION: board, management and support - Changes in division of roles within Board On 6 June the board met in Utrecht. Secretary Paul Becherer became the new treasurer, and Frans Grijzenhout the new secretary. Ad Huikeshoven, the former treasurer, took over other tasks such as the Wikipedia-Dag (the former Wikimedia Conference Nederland). - Board Manual More information has been added to the board manual and this process will continue to document how the Board operates. The aim is to facilitate transitions when new Board Members are elected. Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland tel. (+31) (0)6 31786379 *Postadres*: * Bezoekadres:* Postbus 167Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
Hi again, so I spent some time looking into the problem and wrote a short summary at http://twkozlowski.net/russian-wikipedia-under-threat-again/ (shameless promotion mode=off /) -- if anyone cares about what's happening outside of the US, that is. As described in the summary, there are plans for a massive strike on the Russian Internet (Runet) on August 1, with the bill being described as the Russian equivalent of SOPA. It also looks to me like there is some public opposition against the bill (a petition to the President of Russia already has over 130,000 signatures with just 100,000 being required), so the situation is developing quite interestingly. -- Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
On 10.07.2013 20:45, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: Hi again, so I spent some time looking into the problem and wrote a short summary at http://twkozlowski.net/russian-wikipedia-under-threat-again/ (shameless promotion mode=off /) -- if anyone cares about what's happening outside of the US, that is. As described in the summary, there are plans for a massive strike on the Russian Internet (Runet) on August 1, with the bill being described as the Russian equivalent of SOPA. It also looks to me like there is some public opposition against the bill (a petition to the President of Russia already has over 130,000 signatures with just 100,000 being required), so the situation is developing quite interestingly. -- Tomasz Hi Tomasz, my understanding is that just today Russian Wikipedia Community started an RFC on the issue http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%9E%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8B/%D0%9E_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B5_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2_%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0 I do not see any reaction whatsoever from Wikimedia.ru , but from our WLM experience you probably remember that they are ... hmm ... not the fastest to react, and usually only do it after other people start complaining that they do not. Since I am not involved with the Russian Wikipedia for over two years, I could have missed some important developments. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
On 10 July 2013 21:20, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I do not see any reaction whatsoever from Wikimedia.ru , but from our WLM experience you probably remember that they are ... hmm ... not the fastest to react, and usually only do it after other people start complaining that they do not. WMRU are aware - I asked about this on the comcom list and they noted it was actually a serious issue - but I would expect they don't do anything until they're quite sure the community is moving in that direction, for probably-sensible reasons. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] How I got addicted to Wikipediocracy…
… writes Amanda Filipacci, the writer behind the recent Wikipedia novelists sexism scandal: http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/07/10/my-strange-addiction-wikipedia/. I'm not sure if it's still funny or maybe already depressing. -- Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] How I got addicted to Wikipediocracy…
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: … writes Amanda Filipacci, the writer behind the recent Wikipedia novelists sexism scandal: http://blogs.wsj.com/**speakeasy/2013/07/10/my- **strange-addiction-wikipedia/http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/07/10/my-strange-addiction-wikipedia/ . I'm not sure if it's still funny or maybe already depressing. Which part, the essay or the absence of an editor at WSJ? 3500 words does not a blog post make. -- Tomasz __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@**lists.wikimedia.orgwikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org ?subject=**unsubscribe -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *http://blog.wikimedia.org/* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
