Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call to Action
Hi Lila, May I request a Tech Talk about efficiency and quality of Wikimedia software development? It would be interesting to have you, Erik and Damon as presenters. Thanks, Pine On Oct 7, 2014 9:07 AM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: Are you in? Or are you out? That is the question. Lila P.S. If you'd like to talk about operational efficiency and quality of software manufacturing -- please start a thread on that. We are deep into working on that here, so would be happy to share the love! On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Because of that, I am very happy to see somebody with courage and integrity in the top management. Such person has much larger potential to create the momentum and build community enthusiasm again. Is someone saying I have courage and integrity all it takes to convince you that they are indeed possessed of those qualities? Every politician says that. I'd reserve judgment and wait to see their performance. Besides, what has been lacking is not courage. Creating the Superprotection feature, pressing ahead with the Flow concept in the face of massive community skepticism and rolling out a very poorly implemented VisualEditor undoubtedly took courage of a sort. What's been lacking is an ability to convince the community through argument rather than the exercise of power, an ability to understand the community's needs and concerns, and sheer old-fashioned engineering competence – something the VisualEditor signally failed to demonstrate. Jimmy Wales acknowledged that there have been huge problems. Recently, a Wikipedian quoted the following to him on his talk page: *“The Foundation has a miserable cost/benefit ratio and for years now has spent millions on software development without producing anything that actually works; the feeling is that the whole operation is held together with the goodwill of its volunteers and the more stupid Foundation managers are seriously hacking them off”,* Wales replied[1] (my emphasis), *“Other than the extreme nature of the comment (‘without producing ANYTHING’ is too strong) why do you think I would disagree with that? This is precisely the point of the new CEO and new direction – to radically improve the software development process. That statement, while too strong, is indeed an accurate depiction of what has gone wrong. I’ve been frustrated as well about the endless controversies about the rollout of inadequate software not developed with sufficient community consultation and without proper incremental rollout to catch showstopping bugs.”* I don't want to be unduly churlish to Damon, who deserves his welcome here like any new team member, but given the above background I personally would have appreciated an intimation from Damon that he is aware of the problems to date, that roll-outs will be handled more competently on his watch, and that the community will not be presented with substandard software again. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Walesdiff=nextoldid=623290066 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Intoduction for OPW Round 9 (Wikimedia Identities Editor)
Hi Divyanshi, Let me ask Quim to point you in the right direction. Pine On Oct 7, 2014 6:48 AM, Divyanshi Kathuria divyanshikathu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, warm greetings to you all. This is Divyanshi Kathuria and I am currently pursuing BTech 2nd Year in Computer Science Engineering. I wish to join this community for OPW Round 9. I want to work on 'Wikimedia Identities Editor' for OPW Round 9. Please help me in getting started with this project. And what are the microtasks I need to perform? I have a basic knowlwdge of C++, Python, HTML, CSS and Django. I worked on a Django based project in my six weeks internship. My preferred web stack is : Operating System: Linux(Ubuntu) Web server: Apache Database: MySQL Programming Language: Python Web-framework: Django -- Divyanshi Kathuria divyanshikathuria27.wordpress.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call to Action
I think the first lesson here is: if you're going to talk about a harmonious community, don't quote divisive political figures in support of your argument :-) That said, welcome Damon! Certainly, it's a pretty tough job that you've stepped into, but I'm optimistic that a fresh approach and fresh eyes will assist the engineering team in pushing through the present difficulties with software deployments. Regards, Craig Franklin On 7 October 2014 11:02, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello and welcome, Damon. One thing I've long appreciated about the Wikimedia movement is that it is not political, and indeed the flagship project is explicitly neutral. This distinction has become a little more nuanced as the movement has taken political positions that are congruent with the overall mission, but I think it remains the case that Wikimedians have been able to avoid entanglements with general political issues. This has been especially the case with most deeply controversial and current political debates. So while I agree with your sentiment, that leaders must model values such as courage and integrity, I think it would have been better expressed without the ringing endorsement of Che Guevara. As you say, we should choose our words carefully and ensure that our language is positive and inclusive. This is obviously an area where we can all make progress. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call to Action
On 8 October 2014 13:52, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: I think the first lesson here is: if you're going to talk about a harmonious community, don't quote divisive political figures in support of your argument :-) Objection! Assumes the existence of a non-divisive topic for Wikipedians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Intoduction for OPW Round 9 (Wikimedia Identities Editor)
On 08-Oct-2014 8:32 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: If you have questions about the Identities Editor project, you can ask them directly to its mentors in the related Bugzilla report, indicated in the FOSS OPW page: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58585 Yes, I have already expressed my interest in thus project in Bugzilla. :) The best you can do at this point is to start drafting your proposal on-wiki, adding yourself to the table of candidates at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FOSS_Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_9#Candidates Okay. I will do the needful. If you have other questions, you can ask me personally as well. Thank You. Thank you for your interest in contributing to Wikimedia. I would love to be a part of this community. Divyanshi Kathuria divyanshikathuria27.wordpress.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Intoduction for OPW Round 9 (Wikimedia Identities Editor)
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Divyanshi Kathuria divyanshikathu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, warm greetings to you all. Hello Divyashi, and any other potential candidates for FOSS Outreach Program for Women. If you have questions about the Identities Editor project, you can ask them directly to its mentors in the related Bugzilla report, indicated in the FOSS OPW page: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58585 The best you can do at this point is to start drafting your proposal on-wiki, adding yourself to the table of candidates at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FOSS_Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_9#Candidates This is wikimedia-l, a non-technical mailing list. A better place to ask and discuss OPW matters is wikitech-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l If you have other questions, you can ask me personally as well. Thank you for your interest in contributing to Wikimedia. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call to Action
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Is someone saying I have courage and integrity all it takes to convince you that they are indeed possessed of those qualities? Every politician says that. I'd reserve judgment and wait to see their performance. That's good for the beginning. If a politician says that he or she has courage and integrity that defines his or her attitude. At this moment of time our movement is in the process of waking up and we need that kind of attitude. What would be bad -- again from the perspective of what a politician says -- is the construction like This is great community and I would like to join your path! Both constructions are positive in general, but presently we need the attitude of change, not the flattering attitude. The second good thing is that we can keep him accountable for what he said, like you are doing that with your politician. (Counting that we have much more influence on WMF structures than average voter on the state structures.) Besides, what has been lacking is not courage. Creating the Superprotection feature, pressing ahead with the Flow concept in the face of massive community skepticism and rolling out a very poorly implemented VisualEditor undoubtedly took courage of a sort. That isn't courage, but despair to show that something has been done. In this context, courage is to have a vision (which includes community), make the plan (which includes community), do the job (which includes community) and implement the features in acceptable way for the community. Those three features you mentioned are different issues. Superprotection clearly needs political decision, i.e. particular communities should be asked about such actions. VisualEditor is good and needed feature in theory, while, as you mentioned, poorly implemented. Obviously, it needs polishing and more QA work. However, in relation to Flow, I think that such features should be discussed and pushed if necessary. Counting, of course, that they've been well implemented, without significant problems. We need *really* new features, capable to introduce different paradigm into our daily work. It's obviously on the new management to find a way how to overcome previous issues. What's been lacking is an ability to convince the community through argument rather than the exercise of power, an ability to understand the community's needs and concerns, and sheer old-fashioned engineering competence – something the VisualEditor signally failed to demonstrate. From my perspective, what we didn't have last years is actually courage to do new things. From what I heard from the first hand, and besides low level features like Parser is, Flow is the first real innovation in wiki software since talk pages themselves. The sum of all previous innovations gave the impression that the world is going into one direction, while we are waiting in the early 2000s. The reason for that is exactly cowardice on all levels of power structure in our movement. Basically, as somebody gets some permissions, he or she becomes much more afraid of doing anything which would endanger his or her position. And as it goes up, the level of cowardice was just growing. The product of that process is that sometimes things can't be prolonged anymore, something has to be done because any reason. Then we get forced implementations, promoting bizarrely insignificant features as great achievements, confronting with the Wikipedia communities or other parts of the movement. That's despair, not courage. And that's why we need people of courage and integrity in the top managerial positions. Those capable to work well under community pressure till the product is done. Damon sad that he is such person and I am very happy to hear that. That's good starting point. We'll see the product of that, of course. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: Are you in? Or are you out? That is the question. If the military allegory is the right thing to make, imagine that you are a general of Napoleon's army in Moscow. Your army conquered almost everything in the most important part of the world, but it's exhausted. That's the present state of the morale in our communities. You need now firefighters, not court-martial. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call to Action
Yes Pine, you may. Let's give Damon a bit of time to settle in and we can arrange that. We are also in the midst of working through documenting and exposing our product development process, which would help set up parameters for success of projects. Lila On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lila, May I request a Tech Talk about efficiency and quality of Wikimedia software development? It would be interesting to have you, Erik and Damon as presenters. Thanks, Pine On Oct 7, 2014 9:07 AM, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote: Are you in? Or are you out? That is the question. Lila P.S. If you'd like to talk about operational efficiency and quality of software manufacturing -- please start a thread on that. We are deep into working on that here, so would be happy to share the love! On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Because of that, I am very happy to see somebody with courage and integrity in the top management. Such person has much larger potential to create the momentum and build community enthusiasm again. Is someone saying I have courage and integrity all it takes to convince you that they are indeed possessed of those qualities? Every politician says that. I'd reserve judgment and wait to see their performance. Besides, what has been lacking is not courage. Creating the Superprotection feature, pressing ahead with the Flow concept in the face of massive community skepticism and rolling out a very poorly implemented VisualEditor undoubtedly took courage of a sort. What's been lacking is an ability to convince the community through argument rather than the exercise of power, an ability to understand the community's needs and concerns, and sheer old-fashioned engineering competence – something the VisualEditor signally failed to demonstrate. Jimmy Wales acknowledged that there have been huge problems. Recently, a Wikipedian quoted the following to him on his talk page: *“The Foundation has a miserable cost/benefit ratio and for years now has spent millions on software development without producing anything that actually works; the feeling is that the whole operation is held together with the goodwill of its volunteers and the more stupid Foundation managers are seriously hacking them off”,* Wales replied[1] (my emphasis), *“Other than the extreme nature of the comment (‘without producing ANYTHING’ is too strong) why do you think I would disagree with that? This is precisely the point of the new CEO and new direction – to radically improve the software development process. That statement, while too strong, is indeed an accurate depiction of what has gone wrong. I’ve been frustrated as well about the endless controversies about the rollout of inadequate software not developed with sufficient community consultation and without proper incremental rollout to catch showstopping bugs.”* I don't want to be unduly churlish to Damon, who deserves his welcome here like any new team member, but given the above background I personally would have appreciated an intimation from Damon that he is aware of the problems to date, that roll-outs will be handled more competently on his watch, and that the community will not be presented with substandard software again. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Walesdiff=nextoldid=623290066 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
Hi, all! The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize will be announced this Friday, and in cooperation with Wikimedia Norge, the Nobel Peace Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Center has invited Wikipedians from the Norwegian Wikipedia community to an editathon to improve the article about the winner(s?) as soon as possible. We'll be sitting practically in the next room from where the announcement is made, updating relevant articles as fast as we can. For this to be a global event, I'd like to invite anyone who's interested to join us in the IRC channel #wikipedia-nobel irc://freenode/#wikipedia-nobel, where we'll be talking and coordinating. We'll also try to livetweet the event using the hashtag #wikinobel https://twitter.com/hashtag/wikinobel, probably mainly from the account @WikimediaNorge https://twitter.com/WikimediaNorge. The press conference will be start around 10:30 Norwegian time, which is *08:30 UTC*, like I said on *Friday, 10th of October*. Please join us, and help spread this invitation to your community. -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
Will they release their own biographies under a free license to ease article expansion? :) Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
Congratulations, Jon, sounds great! Regards. 2014-10-08 16:07 GMT-05:00 Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com: Hi, all! The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize will be announced this Friday, and in cooperation with Wikimedia Norge, the Nobel Peace Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Center has invited Wikipedians from the Norwegian Wikipedia community to an editathon to improve the article about the winner(s?) as soon as possible. We'll be sitting practically in the next room from where the announcement is made, updating relevant articles as fast as we can. For this to be a global event, I'd like to invite anyone who's interested to join us in the IRC channel #wikipedia-nobel irc://freenode/#wikipedia-nobel, where we'll be talking and coordinating. We'll also try to livetweet the event using the hashtag #wikinobel https://twitter.com/hashtag/wikinobel, probably mainly from the account @WikimediaNorge https://twitter.com/WikimediaNorge. The press conference will be start around 10:30 Norwegian time, which is *08:30 UTC*, like I said on *Friday, 10th of October*. Please join us, and help spread this invitation to your community. -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Atentamente:Iván MartínezPresidenteWikimedia México A.C.wikimedia.mx http://wikimedia.mxImagina un mundo en donde cada persona del planeta pueda tener acceso libre a la suma total del conocimiento humano. Eso es lo que estamos haciendo http://es.wikipedia.org. * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Library: Books Bytes Newsletter is out!
Hello fellow library enthusiasts! Our August-September edition of Books Bytes is full of news: *TWL is now a Wikimedia Foundation program, moving on from its grant status under IEG to a full-time contract *Our *four* new partnerships, including a huge *De Gruyter* donation and a pilot program with industry leader *Elsevier* * Lots of updates about our new TWL coordinators, news from Wikimania, details on a redesigned account distribution platform in the works, upcoming Wiki Loves Libraries events, and our Fall 2014 conference calendar * Special Spotlight: Traveling Through History - A passionate editor talks about his experiences using TWL resource Newspapers.com * Bytes in Brief: Short clips about libraries, open access, and digital humanities from around the web You can read it all at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Newsletter/August-September2014 Best, Jake Orlowitz (Ocaasi) The Wikipedia Library ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
Good question, Nemo. I don't know if it has been brought up, but we should probably look into that. :-) 2014-10-08 23:40 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Will they release their own biographies under a free license to ease article expansion? :) Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
Hi Jon, that is a great initiative. I've already spread the word among Wikimedia Brasil and Open Knowledge Brasil. I'd like to suggest that you try to make a short video for the winner asking about Wikipedia and its importance. I think Wikimedia Sweden has made a cool short interview with some Nobel prize (I think chemestry) and it was really good. This can be even used to outreach at universities to bring more people to catalyse efforts to involve more schools on Wikimedia projects. If you can do it, please, let us know. Cheers, Tom 2014-10-08 18:07 GMT-03:00 Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com: Hi, all! The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize will be announced this Friday, and in cooperation with Wikimedia Norge, the Nobel Peace Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Center has invited Wikipedians from the Norwegian Wikipedia community to an editathon to improve the article about the winner(s?) as soon as possible. We'll be sitting practically in the next room from where the announcement is made, updating relevant articles as fast as we can. For this to be a global event, I'd like to invite anyone who's interested to join us in the IRC channel #wikipedia-nobel irc://freenode/#wikipedia-nobel, where we'll be talking and coordinating. We'll also try to livetweet the event using the hashtag #wikinobel https://twitter.com/hashtag/wikinobel, probably mainly from the account @WikimediaNorge https://twitter.com/WikimediaNorge. The press conference will be start around 10:30 Norwegian time, which is *08:30 UTC*, like I said on *Friday, 10th of October*. Please join us, and help spread this invitation to your community. -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) Open Knowledge Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre http://br.okfn.org ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call to Action
Every once in a while something happens in our Wikimedia-verse -- this thread, for instance, or getting into a political discussion with someone at an event -- that reminds me that I can violently disagree on matters of politics with some of my dearest friends in Wikimedia. Of course Wikimedians are deeply and clearly political when it comes to free knowledge and copyright law -- but after that it's often a mystery to me how people feel about various issues, and sometimes a surprise to find that we agree or disagree. And that is one of the things that I love about this community -- the fact that regardless of whether we would vote for different people or come down on different sides in almost anything else, we can agree about our love of getting an encyclopedia edited and sharing free knowledge. It's lovely :) Now, let's get back to fighting about something that matters, like Oxford commas and reference formats! -- phoebe p.s. welcome, Damon! On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@gmail.com wrote: Well said, Craig. Because Che Guevara means for me: I'm out. Ziko Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2014 schrieb Craig Franklin : I think the first lesson here is: if you're going to talk about a harmonious community, don't quote divisive political figures in support of your argument :-) That said, welcome Damon! Certainly, it's a pretty tough job that you've stepped into, but I'm optimistic that a fresh approach and fresh eyes will assist the engineering team in pushing through the present difficulties with software deployments. Regards, Craig Franklin On 7 October 2014 11:02, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hello and welcome, Damon. One thing I've long appreciated about the Wikimedia movement is that it is not political, and indeed the flagship project is explicitly neutral. This distinction has become a little more nuanced as the movement has taken political positions that are congruent with the overall mission, but I think it remains the case that Wikimedians have been able to avoid entanglements with general political issues. This has been especially the case with most deeply controversial and current political debates. So while I agree with your sentiment, that leaders must model values such as courage and integrity, I think it would have been better expressed without the ringing endorsement of Che Guevara. As you say, we should choose our words carefully and ensure that our language is positive and inclusive. This is obviously an area where we can all make progress. ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bug day: Book tool/Collection/PDF, 2014-10-08, 14–22 UTC
And it's over! We reached our immediate goal, closing all the lost PediaPress tickets (80 before the bug day); and about 40 new bugzilla reports were filed, including some tricky ones about language support. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage/201410 has a dump from the etherpad and will be updated with more precise information. Give a look at the bugzilla reports! Thanks to all the participants: Andre Klapper, Anomie, Azitrex, bawolff, Helder, John Vandenberg, Kelson, Nemo, Raymond, Reedy, Rupert, saper, Steinsplitter, csteipp, ebraminio, jem, josu, kepper, valhallasw`cloud. (And probably someone else in bugzilla at the same time.) Nemo Federico Leva (Nemo), 08/10/2014 15:33: We start in 30 min from now :) Federico Leva (Nemo), 29/09/2014 19:51: Hello, Please join us on the next Wikimedia bug day: **2014-10-08, 14:00–22:00 UTC** [1] in #wikimedia-tech on Freenode IRC.[2] We will be triaging bug reports for the Collection extension (Book tool) in general and PDF export in particular, which were just switched to a new backend (OCG).[3] We have two immediate goals: 1) recover 100 % of the relevant reports from the defunct PediaPress tracker;[4] 2) get a clean list of known PDF issues that the new backend didn't fix. Everyone is welcome to join any time these weeks, and no technical knowledge is needed! It's an easy way to get involved or to give something back. We encourage you to record your activity on the etherpad [4]. This information and more can be found here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage/201410 For more information on triaging in general, check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage I look forward to seeing you there. Please distribute further by email, talk pages etc. (Collection is used on almost 2 thousands wikis!) Sorry for the crossposting, Nemo [1] Timezone converter: http://everytimezone.com/#2014-10-08,120,5x1 [2] See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC for more info on IRC chat [3] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-July/077867.html [4] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/BugTriage-Collection ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
It sounds like something we can pull in many languages! Congrats on the event :D Alhen @alhen_ alhen at most places. Coordinator at Wikimedia Bolivia https://www.fb.com/w https://www.fb.com/wikimediaboliviaikimediabolivia https://www.fb.com/wikimediabolivia Thrive, live, and bloom. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com wrote: Good question, Nemo. I don't know if it has been brought up, but we should probably look into that. :-) 2014-10-08 23:40 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Will they release their own biographies under a free license to ease article expansion? :) Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
