[Wikimedia-l] New Free Research Accounts via the Wikipedia Library
Hi! The Wikipedia Library has new, free research donations available: Project MUSE (humanities and social science books and journals): http://enwp.org/WP:Project_MUSE DynaMed (clinical reference for medical topics): http://enwp.org/WP:DynaMed Royal Pharmaceutical Society (pharmaceutical information and practice resources): http://enwp.org/WP:RPharmS Women Writers Online (digital humanities database focused on women's literature): http://enwp.org/WP:Women_Writers_Online Newspapers.com (American newspapers database w/ open access tools): http://enwp.org/WP:Newspapers.com And many other partnerships with accounts available are listed at: http://enwp.org/WP:TWL/Journals Do better research and help expand the use of high-quality references across Wikipedia projects. Sign up today! --The Wikipedia Library Team http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news
This idea, I like it! And I think Yuri just volunteered to write the patches :P On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 2 March 2015 at 13:49, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: But if we're going to implement something, why not just..have timezone be an element of the timestamps on history pages? It's UTC unless the user explicitly changes it, and if they explicitly change it that's known in the database (and already referenced to decide how to convert the UTC timestamp when the page is displayed). It's a perfectly sensible UI change that makes sense independent of this problem. This sounds like a good idea - in some ways, it's more robust than a notice at the top of the page. It's very easy for someone to not notice a general message, especially if they're looking at more than the first two entries in the history. If we want to be clever, we could always get JS trickery to display something like xx.xx UTC ($localtimezone +5.00) rather than just xx.xx UTC. Related point: if we adapt the way history timestamps are displayed, eg by adding 'UTC', we should be consistent and apply the same approach to the old revisions view of a page, and the This page was last modified on... footer. Signatures have (UTC) by default, so that's solved, at least. Andrew. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland's new Executive Director will be Christian Rickerts
Thanks for the update, Tim Moritz, and congratulations on a successful search. Christian -- willkommen in der Wikimedia-Bewegung und viel Erfolg! :-) -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland's new Executive Director will be Christian Rickerts
On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 10:00:38 +0100 Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedia friends, On behalf of our board, I am delighted to announce that Christian Rickerts will be the new Executive Director of Wikimedia Deutschland. The board followed the transition team’s unanimous recommendation and hired Christian effective May 1, 2015. Congratulations to Christian and good luck on his new role. Regards, — Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Summer-Glau/ rindolf If you repeat a scene 50k times, then the movie will have less entropy and will compress better. ( irc://irc.freenode.org/#perlcafe ) Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland's new Executive Director will be Christian Rickerts
All of us at Wikimedia UK bid you welcome to the movement, Christian! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 2 March 2015 at 09:00, Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedia friends, On behalf of our board, I am delighted to announce that Christian Rickerts will be the new Executive Director of Wikimedia Deutschland. The board followed the transition team’s unanimous recommendation and hired Christian effective May 1, 2015. Wikimedia Deutschland is shaped by the work of volunteers as well as paid professionals. Christian Rickerts comes with experience from both perspectives. In 1995, he co-founded Schüler Helfen Leben e. V., a non-profit association that promotes equal access to education for children and young people in the Balkans. Later, he served as the association’s first Executive Director and led the Schüler Helfen Leben Foundation. After that, he worked in the for-profit as well as the non-profit sector, first as a consultant for strategy and organizational development at Capgemini, then as the Executive Director of the German section of Reporters Without Borders. Since 2012, he has been Vice President Corporate Communication at the Bertelsmann Stiftung, the largest privately held non-profit foundation in Germany. Christian’s profound knowledge of the intersection between voluntary and paid work as well as his value-driven thinking and methodological diversity have deeply impressed us. We are thrilled to get him on board and to shape Wikimedia Deutschland’s future together. Christian is highly motivated to join the Wikimedia movement. We are confident that he is the perfect fit for the role of the Executive Director. Jan Engelmann will continue to be our interim ED until May. On behalf of the board, I would like to express my gratitude for his outstanding efforts. A huge thank you goes to the transition team[1], which has planned, led, and brought this collaborative process to a successful close within eight months. The team was constituted in June 2014, composed of members of our board as well as representatives of our staff, our members and the German Wikimedia community. The work of the team has been straightforward and exceptional. We are convinced that their experience is highly valuable for the broader movement. Therefore, the team is planning to share their insights and learnings at the upcoming Wikimedia Conference. Starting in May, you will have the chance to join us in providing Christian with a warm welcome to the Wikiverse. Many of you will meet Christian at the Wikimedia Conference in May. He is also planning to attend Wikimania in July. Best regards, Tim Moritz Hector [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/Transition_Team -- Tim Moritz Hector Chair of the board Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | D-10963 Berlin tel.: +49 (0)30 - 219 158 260 http://www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news
Well, not all users have JavaScript. But, on the core of the proposal: What threats? What users? How many, how serious? Have they been reported to Legal and Community Advocacy? These are the questions we tend to ask about this sort of issue. Do we need to insert technical features to prevent it? tends to come after a series of occurrences, and I'm only aware of two in the last six years or so. We shouldn't let one-offs dictate our UI direction and bandwidth load. But if we're going to implement something, why not just..have timezone be an element of the timestamps on history pages? It's UTC unless the user explicitly changes it, and if they explicitly change it that's known in the database (and already referenced to decide how to convert the UTC timestamp when the page is displayed). It's a perfectly sensible UI change that makes sense independent of this problem. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote: A few days ago, a well known Russian politician Boris Nemtsov was assassinated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Boris_Nemtsov near the Kremlin. This murder had a huge political resonance, and conspiracy theories flourished. Yet, one of the theories was due to Wikipedia's representation of time - anonymous users see change history in UTC. This confusion was so big, that several major publications, including Moskovkij Komsomolets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskovskij_Komsomolets, published articles http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/02/28/vikipediya-zaranee-otchitalas-ob-ubiystve-nemcova-zapis-poyavilas-v-2140.html (in Russian) claiming that the wiki page proclaimed him dead before the assassination. The MK article was later updated with the explanation, but the damage has been done: a number of threats were made against the editors. In light of the above, I feel we need to #1 Show a clear message at the top of all history-related pages for anonymous users that the time is in UTC until #2 #2 JavaScript should fix time on the fly for all users Suggestions welcome. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news
A few days ago, a well known Russian politician Boris Nemtsov was assassinated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Boris_Nemtsov near the Kremlin. This murder had a huge political resonance, and conspiracy theories flourished. Yet, one of the theories was due to Wikipedia's representation of time - anonymous users see change history in UTC. This confusion was so big, that several major publications, including Moskovkij Komsomolets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskovskij_Komsomolets, published articles http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/02/28/vikipediya-zaranee-otchitalas-ob-ubiystve-nemcova-zapis-poyavilas-v-2140.html (in Russian) claiming that the wiki page proclaimed him dead before the assassination. The MK article was later updated with the explanation, but the damage has been done: a number of threats were made against the editors. In light of the above, I feel we need to #1 Show a clear message at the top of all history-related pages for anonymous users that the time is in UTC until #2 #2 JavaScript should fix time on the fly for all users Suggestions welcome. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland's new Executive Director will be Christian Rickerts
Congrats Christian! Best wishes!! --- Shabab Mustafa On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Hasive, Nurunnaby nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd wrote: Congratulation Christian ! On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 10:00:38 +0100 Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedia friends, On behalf of our board, I am delighted to announce that Christian Rickerts will be the new Executive Director of Wikimedia Deutschland. The board followed the transition team’s unanimous recommendation and hired Christian effective May 1, 2015. Congratulations to Christian and good luck on his new role. Regards, — Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Summer-Glau/ rindolf If you repeat a scene 50k times, then the movie will have less entropy and will compress better. ( irc://irc.freenode.org/#perlcafe ) Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Hasive :: হাছিব* Global User: Hasive http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hasive Administrator | Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:Hasive Member | GAC Committee, Wikimedia Foundation http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Grant_Advisory_Committee Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Director | Wikimedia Bangladesh Operations Committee http://www.wikimedia.org.bd fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland's new Executive Director will be Christian Rickerts
Dear Wikimedia friends, On behalf of our board, I am delighted to announce that Christian Rickerts will be the new Executive Director of Wikimedia Deutschland. The board followed the transition team’s unanimous recommendation and hired Christian effective May 1, 2015. Wikimedia Deutschland is shaped by the work of volunteers as well as paid professionals. Christian Rickerts comes with experience from both perspectives. In 1995, he co-founded Schüler Helfen Leben e. V., a non-profit association that promotes equal access to education for children and young people in the Balkans. Later, he served as the association’s first Executive Director and led the Schüler Helfen Leben Foundation. After that, he worked in the for-profit as well as the non-profit sector, first as a consultant for strategy and organizational development at Capgemini, then as the Executive Director of the German section of Reporters Without Borders. Since 2012, he has been Vice President Corporate Communication at the Bertelsmann Stiftung, the largest privately held non-profit foundation in Germany. Christian’s profound knowledge of the intersection between voluntary and paid work as well as his value-driven thinking and methodological diversity have deeply impressed us. We are thrilled to get him on board and to shape Wikimedia Deutschland’s future together. Christian is highly motivated to join the Wikimedia movement. We are confident that he is the perfect fit for the role of the Executive Director. Jan Engelmann will continue to be our interim ED until May. On behalf of the board, I would like to express my gratitude for his outstanding efforts. A huge thank you goes to the transition team[1], which has planned, led, and brought this collaborative process to a successful close within eight months. The team was constituted in June 2014, composed of members of our board as well as representatives of our staff, our members and the German Wikimedia community. The work of the team has been straightforward and exceptional. We are convinced that their experience is highly valuable for the broader movement. Therefore, the team is planning to share their insights and learnings at the upcoming Wikimedia Conference. Starting in May, you will have the chance to join us in providing Christian with a warm welcome to the Wikiverse. Many of you will meet Christian at the Wikimedia Conference in May. He is also planning to attend Wikimania in July. Best regards, Tim Moritz Hector [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/Transition_Team -- Tim Moritz Hector Chair of the board Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | D-10963 Berlin tel.: +49 (0)30 - 219 158 260 http://www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news
Threats: This page http://novorus.info/news/analytics/34163-vikipediya-soobschila-ob-ubiystve-nemcova-za-2-chasa-do-samogo-ubiystva.html (in Russian, very non-credible source of information, but has enough following to make it to MK.ru), discuss a well known wikipedian Dmitry Rozhkov. I saw these kinds of comments (in ru): В любом случае данная страница появилась ОЧЕНЬ быстро! Только на ее написание ушел бы час. Поэтому автора надо брать и выворачивать наизнанку! (Translation: in any case, this page appeared VERY quickly! It would have taken at least an hour to write. That's why we should grab the author and turn him inside out) From MK.ru: Источник МК в сфере IT-индустрии уверяет, что время правок дается по московскому времени. Можешь сейчас сам правку сделать и убедиться, - аргументировал собеседник. (Translation: The source in MK in IT industry confirms that the revision time is given according to Moscow. You can make a change yourself and see for yourself said the expert). The problem is that this one case caused enough confusion that RU wiki admins are looking for a way to state this at the top of the page. Showing a short message at the top all time is in UTC seems to be easy and obvious enough, and I am surprised it has not been done yet. Phabricator task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91255 Re implementation in the long term: The current HTML shows a href=... title=... class=mw-changeslist-date23:52, 18 February 2015/a (localized, UTC) Instead, we could show a href=... title=... class=mw-changeslist-datetime datetime=2015-02-18 23:5223:52, 18 February 2015 UTC/time/a, and let JS (if present) change it to the proper timezone. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: Well, not all users have JavaScript. But, on the core of the proposal: What threats? What users? How many, how serious? Have they been reported to Legal and Community Advocacy? These are the questions we tend to ask about this sort of issue. Do we need to insert technical features to prevent it? tends to come after a series of occurrences, and I'm only aware of two in the last six years or so. We shouldn't let one-offs dictate our UI direction and bandwidth load. But if we're going to implement something, why not just..have timezone be an element of the timestamps on history pages? It's UTC unless the user explicitly changes it, and if they explicitly change it that's known in the database (and already referenced to decide how to convert the UTC timestamp when the page is displayed). It's a perfectly sensible UI change that makes sense independent of this problem. On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote: A few days ago, a well known Russian politician Boris Nemtsov was assassinated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Boris_Nemtsov near the Kremlin. This murder had a huge political resonance, and conspiracy theories flourished. Yet, one of the theories was due to Wikipedia's representation of time - anonymous users see change history in UTC. This confusion was so big, that several major publications, including Moskovkij Komsomolets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskovskij_Komsomolets, published articles http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/02/28/vikipediya-zaranee-otchitalas-ob-ubiystve-nemcova-zapis-poyavilas-v-2140.html (in Russian) claiming that the wiki page proclaimed him dead before the assassination. The MK article was later updated with the explanation, but the damage has been done: a number of threats were made against the editors. In light of the above, I feel we need to #1 Show a clear message at the top of all history-related pages for anonymous users that the time is in UTC until #2 #2 JavaScript should fix time on the fly for all users Suggestions welcome. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news
Speaking of changes to the timestamps and UTC... Whatever happened to this change that was announced in 2012? http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/07/06/wikipedia-revision-history-experiment/ Something like this now happens on the Mobile view, but I thought this experiment (as described in the WMF blog) looked quite successful and promising. -Liam wittylama.com Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news
On 2 March 2015 at 13:49, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: But if we're going to implement something, why not just..have timezone be an element of the timestamps on history pages? It's UTC unless the user explicitly changes it, and if they explicitly change it that's known in the database (and already referenced to decide how to convert the UTC timestamp when the page is displayed). It's a perfectly sensible UI change that makes sense independent of this problem. This sounds like a good idea - in some ways, it's more robust than a notice at the top of the page. It's very easy for someone to not notice a general message, especially if they're looking at more than the first two entries in the history. If we want to be clever, we could always get JS trickery to display something like xx.xx UTC ($localtimezone +5.00) rather than just xx.xx UTC. Andrew. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news
On 2 March 2015 at 13:49, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: But if we're going to implement something, why not just..have timezone be an element of the timestamps on history pages? It's UTC unless the user explicitly changes it, and if they explicitly change it that's known in the database (and already referenced to decide how to convert the UTC timestamp when the page is displayed). It's a perfectly sensible UI change that makes sense independent of this problem. This sounds like a good idea - in some ways, it's more robust than a notice at the top of the page. It's very easy for someone to not notice a general message, especially if they're looking at more than the first two entries in the history. If we want to be clever, we could always get JS trickery to display something like xx.xx UTC ($localtimezone +5.00) rather than just xx.xx UTC. Related point: if we adapt the way history timestamps are displayed, eg by adding 'UTC', we should be consistent and apply the same approach to the old revisions view of a page, and the This page was last modified on... footer. Signatures have (UTC) by default, so that's solved, at least. Andrew. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news
Hello, FYI we had the same issue two years ago in Tunisia when a Tunisian politician was shot and an IP made the edit in UTC. See our response in (in French) http://www.wikimedia.tn/nouvelle-polemique-sur-wikipedia-en-tunisie/ Finally the Radio station who relayed this scoop wrote an apologize text. Habib, from Wikimedia TN User Group Le 02/03/2015 14:37, Yuri Astrakhan a écrit : A few days ago, a well known Russian politician Boris Nemtsov was assassinated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Boris_Nemtsov near the Kremlin. This murder had a huge political resonance, and conspiracy theories flourished. Yet, one of the theories was due to Wikipedia's representation of time - anonymous users see change history in UTC. This confusion was so big, that several major publications, including Moskovkij Komsomolets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskovskij_Komsomolets, published articles http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/02/28/vikipediya-zaranee-otchitalas-ob-ubiystve-nemcova-zapis-poyavilas-v-2140.html (in Russian) claiming that the wiki page proclaimed him dead before the assassination. The MK article was later updated with the explanation, but the damage has been done: a number of threats were made against the editors. In light of the above, I feel we need to #1 Show a clear message at the top of all history-related pages for anonymous users that the time is in UTC until #2 #2 JavaScript should fix time on the fly for all users Suggestions welcome. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- . Habib M'henni Technologue, ingénieur civil à l'Iset de Nabeul Membre fondateur de CLibre et Wikimedia TN User Group http://about.me/habibmhenni http://habibmhenni.tn Téléphone : +216 52232190 [Thund.linux] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland's new Executive Director will be Christian Rickerts
Congratulations to Wikimedia Deutschland in this appointment! Great news. And a most warm welcome to the Wikimedia movement, Christian! I'm glad to know a bit about your experiences and background. I look forward to working together and meeting you in person at the Wikimedia Conference. Katy On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Hasive, Nurunnaby nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd wrote: Congratulation Christian ! On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 10:00:38 +0100 Tim Moritz Hector tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de wrote: Dear Wikimedia friends, On behalf of our board, I am delighted to announce that Christian Rickerts will be the new Executive Director of Wikimedia Deutschland. The board followed the transition team’s unanimous recommendation and hired Christian effective May 1, 2015. Congratulations to Christian and good luck on his new role. Regards, — Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Summer-Glau/ rindolf If you repeat a scene 50k times, then the movie will have less entropy and will compress better. ( irc://irc.freenode.org/#perlcafe ) Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Hasive :: হাছিব* Global User: Hasive http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hasive Administrator | Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:Hasive Member | GAC Committee, Wikimedia Foundation http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Grant_Advisory_Committee Member | IEG Committee, Wikimedia Foundation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/People Director | Wikimedia Bangladesh Operations Committee http://www.wikimedia.org.bd fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive http://www.twitter.com/nhasive | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Education Program is now on Facebook!
Hello everyone, We are happy to announce a new channel of discussion and collaborative work. Wikipedia Education Program Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaEducationProgram/.[1] Please join us in the group and add your facebook friends who are involved/interested in Wikipedia in Education. Here's part of the education newsletter post announcing it: Since the beginning of the program, volunteers around the world were in contact with each other and with the education team https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/About/Staff at the Wikimedia Foundation using several ways including the Wikimedia Education mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education, regular meetings in which program leaders worked together such as Wikipedia Education Collaborative https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Wikipedia_Education_Collaborative meetings, and social media website accounts for local and regional programs like Arab World Education Program https://www.facebook.com/arwep, Czech Republic Education https://www.facebook.com/studenti.pisi.wikipedii?fref=ts program accounts on different social media websites, Armenian WikiCamps https://www.facebook.com/groups/wiki.camp, Wiki Education Foundation https://www.facebook.com/WikiEducationFoundation and other similar examples, While the global education program stayed away from social media websites for a while. There was a growing need for an easier method for program leaders, professors, students, staff and everyone to discuss their ideas, chat, brainstorm and work virtually on their new projects. Social media websites are believed to be quicker, easier way, and reachable from mobile and tablet devices than other talkpages and mailing lists. The new Facebook group will not replace the existing mailing list and other contact options. It will work alongside with them trying to reach out to everyone who is involved or interested in Wikipedia in Education. Join us in the new Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaEducationProgram/ and meet the people who brought success to Wikipedia in Education around the world. Discuss, work together and seek help from elder users and the WMF education team. Meet you there! [1] https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaEducationProgram/ -- Samir Elsharbaty, Communications Intern, Wikipedia Education Program Wikimedia Foundation +2.011.200.696.77 selsharb...@wikimedia.org education.wikimedia.org On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Samir Elsharbaty selsharb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello everyone, We are happy to announce a new channel of discussion and collaborative work. Wikipedia Education Program Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaEducationProgram/. Please join us in the group and add your facebook friends who are involved/interested in Wikipedia in Education. Here's part of the education newsletter post announcing it: Since the beginning of the program, volunteers around the world were in contact with each other and with the education team https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/About/Staff at the Wikimedia Foundation using several ways including the Wikimedia Education mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education, regular meetings in which program leaders worked together such as Wikipedia Education Collaborative https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Wikipedia_Education_Collaborative meetings, and social media website accounts for local and regional programs like Arab World Education Program https://www.facebook.com/arwep, Czech Republic Education https://www.facebook.com/studenti.pisi.wikipedii?fref=ts program accounts on different social media websites, Armenian WikiCamps https://www.facebook.com/groups/wiki.camp, Wiki Education Foundation https://www.facebook.com/WikiEducationFoundation and other similar examples, While the global education program stayed away from social media websites for a while. There was a growing need for an easier method for program leaders, professors, students, staff and everyone to discuss their ideas, chat, brainstorm and work virtually on their new projects. Social media websites are believed to be quicker, easier way, and reachable from mobile and tablet devices than other talkpages and mailing lists. The new Facebook group will not replace the existing mailing list and other contact options. It will work alongside with them trying to reach out to everyone who is involved or interested in Wikipedia in Education. Join us in the new Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikipediaEducationProgram/ and meet the people who brought success to Wikipedia in Education around the world. Discuss, work together and seek help from elder users and the WMF education team. Meet you there! -- Samir Elsharbaty, Communications Intern, Wikipedia Education Program Wikimedia Foundation +2.011.200.696.77 selsharb...@wikimedia.org