Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource technical issues (was Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!)

[Ilario Valdelli]

The initiative is good also to train the community how to approach the
tools' development.

I think, and this is not a comment for Wikisource for it's a general
comment, that a tool is not a simple piece of software running for a bunch
of things.

The name "tool" is correct because is something available for a use: it can
used or not used.

Instead a "service" is a combination of tools, processes and people.

Good tools are important to build a good service but are not sufficient.

The real problem is that people miss always these three aspects and in
addition there is a wrong approach of programmers to build a tool with a
bad planning and analysis.

Several PM frameworks say that 80% of the time must be dedicated to plan,
because a good planning is mandatory for a good result.

The results of this survey are interesting, but this is a simple
"initiation process", it means that the better evaluation must follow.

So it's correct that a simple tool doesn't solve a problem.

Kind regards



On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Andrea Zanni 
wrote:

> (splitting as per Richard request)
>
> > Question for the Wikisource folks: would Project Grants be a way to get
> > resources for you? If you can design a project and find people with the
> > right skills, that avenue might be beneficial for you. I have a software
> > developer in mind who would probably like to work with you if resources
> are
> > available and a project has the support of the community and WMF.
> >
> > Pine
>
> Hi Pine. My personal answer to your question is: no. Because we've already
> tried that, and we did barely scratch the surface of the issues.
> I'm on mobile and cannot provide you details and references, but in the
> past years we used both IEG and Google Summer of Code for funding
> developers, and we had few successinaddressing main issues. Also, tools
> that worked and were helpful are now abandoned.
> What wikisource lacks is development to core software, not only external,
> cool tools, which are fine but in the end don't really solve problems.
>
> I can elaborate further and bore you with details but, ina nutshell, we
> just need  commitment from people who can bring theirlines ofcode into
> production. As Wikisource is formally a Wikimedia project, and provides its
> tiny contribution to the mission and also to fundraising, I would expect a
> commitment of this sort coming from WMF.
>
> Aubrey
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource technical issues (was Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!)

[Quim Gil]

Hi, while I know that this is not the solution to your problems, let me say
that if you want a Wikisource focus area at the Wikimedia Hackathon in
Jerusalem (31 March - 3 April), the time to decide this is now, and the
place is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119703


On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Andrea Zanni 
wrote:

> What wikisource lacks is development to core software, not only external,
> cool tools, which are fine but in the end don't really solve problems.
>

Some of the "core software" can be developed with the help of IEGs,
developer outreach programs, and hackathons. These activities are not
reserved for "external, cool tools" only.

One step that could be useful regardless would be to reflect the most
urgent/important "core software" development needs at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikisource/board/ , in epic/task
units, associating the actual projects related to them.


I can elaborate further and bore you with details but, ina nutshell, we
> just need  commitment from people who can bring theirlines ofcode into
> production. As Wikisource is formally a Wikimedia project, and provides its
> tiny contribution to the mission and also to fundraising, I would expect a
> commitment of this sort coming from WMF.
>

I think the WMF would also like to have a clear strategy about the
developer investment required for Wikisource and other projects with
specific needs. In the next months we are going to discuss the Annual Plan
for July 2016-June 2017, and I recommend the Wikisource community to make
their voice heard in that context.

Meanwhile, the tiny and humble Developer Relations team is happy to help
you in the practical and pragmatic ways that we can help you right now.  :)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource technical issues (was Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!)

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Indeed :) When an environment does not have proper services set up, when
there is no thought on how the resulting product is to be used, even those
services are of no use.

Wikisource and all its workflows is not the end product for instance. The
end product is for people to read the works that have been so meticulously
and often lovingly been made available. It is sad as it seems that the use
of the end users is never really considered.

Wikipedia has the obvious advantage of instant gratification. You write,
you save and the world can read it. All other projects with the exception
of Wiktionary do not have much in the sense of end user usage consideration.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 17 December 2015 at 10:09, Ilario Valdelli  wrote:

> The initiative is good also to train the community how to approach the
> tools' development.
>
> I think, and this is not a comment for Wikisource for it's a general
> comment, that a tool is not a simple piece of software running for a bunch
> of things.
>
> The name "tool" is correct because is something available for a use: it can
> used or not used.
>
> Instead a "service" is a combination of tools, processes and people.
>
> Good tools are important to build a good service but are not sufficient.
>
> The real problem is that people miss always these three aspects and in
> addition there is a wrong approach of programmers to build a tool with a
> bad planning and analysis.
>
> Several PM frameworks say that 80% of the time must be dedicated to plan,
> because a good planning is mandatory for a good result.
>
> The results of this survey are interesting, but this is a simple
> "initiation process", it means that the better evaluation must follow.
>
> So it's correct that a simple tool doesn't solve a problem.
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Andrea Zanni 
> wrote:
>
> > (splitting as per Richard request)
> >
> > > Question for the Wikisource folks: would Project Grants be a way to get
> > > resources for you? If you can design a project and find people with the
> > > right skills, that avenue might be beneficial for you. I have a
> software
> > > developer in mind who would probably like to work with you if resources
> > are
> > > available and a project has the support of the community and WMF.
> > >
> > > Pine
> >
> > Hi Pine. My personal answer to your question is: no. Because we've
> already
> > tried that, and we did barely scratch the surface of the issues.
> > I'm on mobile and cannot provide you details and references, but in the
> > past years we used both IEG and Google Summer of Code for funding
> > developers, and we had few successinaddressing main issues. Also, tools
> > that worked and were helpful are now abandoned.
> > What wikisource lacks is development to core software, not only external,
> > cool tools, which are fine but in the end don't really solve problems.
> >
> > I can elaborate further and bore you with details but, ina nutshell, we
> > just need  commitment from people who can bring theirlines ofcode into
> > production. As Wikisource is formally a Wikimedia project, and provides
> its
> > tiny contribution to the mission and also to fundraising, I would expect
> a
> > commitment of this sort coming from WMF.
> >
> > Aubrey
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

[Richard Symonds]

+1 - this is a good idea, Risker. Projects from smaller communities get
easily outvoted by the more heavyweight projects, and in some cases they
may be both easier to implement and have more impact for the projects as a
whole than a more popular (but more complex) project on a large wiki.

I also want to echo everyone's comments about determining priorities: this
is a really good step to see!

Richard Symonds
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United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*

On 16 December 2015 at 20:39, Risker  wrote:

> Thanks, Danny - this looks like a pretty good list.
>
> Every one of the top-10 proposals is worthwhile all by itself, and a couple
> of them have the potential to have multi-project effects; I'm not
> suggesting that they be set aside.  However, I'd like to suggest that at
> the next selection process, a slot be specifically reserved for a project
> on one of the less populous projects.  The system of selecting the most
> popular options almost guarantees that something to improve (for example)
> Wikisource or Wiktionary will be an also-ran, simply because there aren't
> enough members of those specialized communities to out-vote the really
> popular things from Wikipedia. This can lead to the circular effect of
> small projects having a hard time expanding their community because of
> technical weaknesses which don't get fixed because there isn't a big enough
> community to vote to get them to the top of the community tech wishlist...
>
> Nonetheless, this is a great first attempt at actively involving
> communities in determining priorities for this specific WMF team. I hope
> that the WMF staff involved have also felt the process was worthwhile, and
> I'll really be looking forward to the viability assessments.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 16 December 2015 at 15:22, Toby Negrin  wrote:
>
> > No one asked for 10 more wishes? :)
> >
> > Thanks Danny and the Community Tech team. This is a great model for
> working
> > with our Communities.
> >
> > -Toby
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Nirzar Pangarkar <
> > npangar...@wikimedia.org
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > It's really cool to see community wish list coming together!
> > >
> > > > We're going to talk with the other Wikimedia product teams, to see if
> > > they can take on some of the ideas the the community has expressed
> > interest
> > > in.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Danny Horn 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >> I'm happy to announce that the Community Tech team's Community
> Wishlist
> > >> Survey has concluded, and we're able to announce the top 10 wishes!
> > >>
> > >> 634 people participated in the survey, where they proposed, discussed
> > and
> > >> voted on 107 ideas. There was a two-week period in November to submit
> > and
> > >> endorse proposals, followed by two weeks of voting. The top 10
> proposals
> > >> with the most support votes now become the Community Tech team's
> > backlog of
> > >> projects to evaluate and address.
> > >>
> > >> And here's the top 10:
> > >>
> > >> #1. Migrate dead links to the Wayback Machine  (111 support votes)
> > >> #2. Improved diff compare screen  (104)
> > >> #3. Central global repository for templates, gadgets and Lua modules
> > (87)
> > >> #4. Cross-wiki watchlist  (84)
> > >> #4. Numerical sorting in categories  (84)
> > >> #6. Allow categories in Commons in all languages  (78)
> > >> #7. Pageview Stats tool  (70)
> > >> #8. Global cross-wiki user talk page  (66)
> > >> #9. Improve the "copy and paste detection" bot  (63)
> > >> #10. Add a user watchlist  (62)
> > >>
> > >> You can see the whole list here, with links to all the proposals and
> > >> Phabricator tickets:
> > >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results
> > >>
> > >> So what happens now?
> > >>
> > >> Over the next couple weeks, Community Tech will do a preliminary
> > >> assessment on the top 10, and start figuring out what's involved. We
> > need
> > >> to have a clear definition of the problem and proposed solution, and
> > begin
> > >> to understand the technical, design and community challenges for each
> > one.
> > >>
> > >> Some wishes in the top 10 seem relatively straightforward, and we'll
> be
> > >> able to dig in and start working on them in the new year. Some wishes
> > are
> > >> going to need a lot of investigation and discussion with other
> > developers,
> > >> product 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

[Quim Gil]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Lane Rasberry 
wrote:

> It was fun to participate in the proposal process.


I want to stress this sentence! I believe many participants will agree.

There are many ways to create a community backlog, and none of them will be
perfect. The Community Tech team chose to have a process relatively simple
to organize and to participate in, doing some sacrifices along the way to
keep that simplicity (I know well, they knocked off several ideas I
suggested). :D

The resulting backlog is just the beginning of a new phase that could be
just as fun. 10 tasks have been selected by CT, and we need everybody's
imagination to find the best ways to solve the rest.

For instance, I'm proposing to select project candidates for hackathons
from this Wishlist (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119703) not only
because it seems a good thing to do, but also because I believe that the
people who voted for these proposals and the developers looking for
interesting hackathon projects can continue having fun together. Achieving
goals is important, but enjoying the ride together is just as important.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

[Andreas Kolbe]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Andrea Zanni 
wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Jane Darnell  wrote:
>
> > Andrea,
> > I totally agree on the mission/vision thing, but am not sure what you
> mean
> > exactly by scale - do you mean that Wikidata shouldn't try to be so
> > granular that it has a statement to cover each factoid in any Wikipedia
> > article, or do you mean we need to talk about what constitutes notability
> > in order not to grow Wikidata exponentially to the point the servers
> crash?
> > Jane
> >
> >
> Hi Jane, I explained myself poorly (sometime English is too difficult :-)
>
> What I mean is that the scale of the error *could* be of another scale,
> another order of magnitude.
> The propagation of the error is multiplied, it's not just a single error on
> a wikipage: it's an error propagated in many wikipages, and then Google,
> etc.
> A single point of failure.
>


Exactly: a single point of failure. A system where a single point of
failure can have such consequences, potentially corrupting knowledge
forever, is a bad system. It's not robust.

In the op-ed, I mentioned the Brazilian aardvark hoax[1] as an example of
error propagation (which happened entirely without Wikidata's and the
Knowledge Graph's help). It took the New Yorker quite a bit of research to
piece together and confirm what happened, research which I understand would
not have happened if the originator of the hoax had not been willing to
talk about his prank.

It was the same with the fake Maurice Jarre quotes in Wikipedia[2] that
made their way into mainstream press obituaries a few years ago. If the
hoaxer had not come forward, no one would have been the wiser. The fake
quotes would have remained a permanent part of the historical record.

More recent cases include the widely repeated (including by Associated
Press, for God's sake, to this day) claim that Joe Streater was involved in
the Boston College basketball point shaving scandal[3] and the Amelia
Bedelia hoax.[4]

If even things people insert as a joke propagate around the globe as a
result of this vulnerability, then there is a clear and present potential
for purposeful manipulation. We've seen enough cases of that, too.[5]

This is not the sort of system the Wikimedia community should be helping to
build. The very values at the heart of the Wikimedia movement are about
transparency, accountability, multiple points of view, pluralism,
democracy, opposing dominance and control by vested interests, and so
forth.

What is the way forward?

Wikidata should, as a matter of urgency, rescind its decision to make its
content available under the CC0 licence. Global propagation without
attribution is a terrible idea.

Quite apart from that, in my opinion Wikidata's CC0 licensing also
infringes Wikipedia contributors' rights as enshrined in Wikipedia's CC
BY-SA licence, a point Lydia Pintscher did not even contest on the Signpost
talk page. As I understand her response,[6] she restricts herself to
asserting that the responsibility for any potential licence infringement
lies with Wikidata contributors rather than with her and Wikimedia
Deutschland. That's passing the buck.

If Wikidata is not prepared to follow CC BY-SA, the way DBpedia does[7],
the next step should be a DMCA takedown notice for material mass-imported
from Wikipedia.

And of course, Wikidata needs to step up its efforts to cite verifiable
sources.


[1] http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/how-a-raccoon-became-an-aardvark
[2]
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/may/04/journalism-obituaries-shane-fitzgerald
[3]
http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/guilt-wikipedia-joe-streater-became-falsely-attached-boston-college-point-shaving-scandal.html
Associated Press:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/list-worst-scandals-college-sports
[4] http://www.dailydot.com/lol/amelia-bedelia-wikipedia-hoax/
[5]
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/03/manipulating-wikipedia-promote-bogus-business-school-316133.html
and
http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/wikipedia-plastic-surgery-otto-placik-labiaplasty/
and many others
[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-12-09/Op-ed=695228403=695228022
[7] http://wiki.dbpedia.org/terms-imprint


> Of course, the opposite is also true: it's a single point of openness,
> correction, information.
> I was just wondering if this different scale is a factor in making
> Wikipedia and Wikidata different enough to accept/reject Andreas arguments.
>
> Andrea
>
>
>
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Andrea Zanni 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I really feel we are drowning in a glass of water.
> > > The issue of "data quality" or "reliability" that Andreas raises is
> well
> > > known:
> > > what I don't understand if the "scale" of it is much bigger on Wikidata
> > > than Wikipedia,
> > > and if this different scale makes it much more important. The scale of
> > the
> > > issue is maybe 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Tito Dutta]

That's interesting. Thanks for sharing.

On 17 December 2015 at 22:22, Mardetanha  wrote:

> it is so good news, Thanks for sharing such wonderful news with us
>
> Mardetanha
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Christophe Henner <
> christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
> >
> > A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a third
> > party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step
> for
> > us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
> > organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
> >
> > IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3
> grounds
> > :
> > * Governance
> > * Accounting
> > * Actions effectiveness
> >
> > The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
> > with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what we’re
> > doing.
> >
> > I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our
> staff,
> > we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
> > includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
> >
> > They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed large
> > congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
> >
> > Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia
> France
> > as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
> > non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
> > organisations have it.
> >
> > We hope to get it in the coming month.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Nicole Ebber]

Congratulations! Thank you for sharing this milestone and experience
with us and all the best for accomplishing the next steps. :)

Nicole

On 17 December 2015 at 17:56, Tito Dutta  wrote:
> That's interesting. Thanks for sharing.
>
> On 17 December 2015 at 22:22, Mardetanha  wrote:
>
>> it is so good news, Thanks for sharing such wonderful news with us
>>
>> Mardetanha
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Christophe Henner <
>> christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
>> >
>> > A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a third
>> > party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step
>> for
>> > us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
>> > organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
>> >
>> > IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3
>> grounds
>> > :
>> > * Governance
>> > * Accounting
>> > * Actions effectiveness
>> >
>> > The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
>> > with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what we’re
>> > doing.
>> >
>> > I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our
>> staff,
>> > we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
>> > includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
>> >
>> > They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed large
>> > congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
>> >
>> > Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia
>> France
>> > as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
>> > non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
>> > organisations have it.
>> >
>> > We hope to get it in the coming month.
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> >
>> > Christophe HENNER | Président
>> > ---
>> > › Mail : christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr
>> > › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
>> > › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
>> > › Twitter : @schiste
>> > -
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Sydney Poore]

Great news, Christopher.
I'm really proud of you all for this accomplishment!!
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On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Katy Love  wrote:
> Wow, very cool, Christophe! Congrats to Wikimédia France!
>
> Katy
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Christophe Henner <
> christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
>>
>> A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a third
>> party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step for
>> us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
>> organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
>>
>> IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3 grounds
>> :
>> * Governance
>> * Accounting
>> * Actions effectiveness
>>
>> The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
>> with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what we’re
>> doing.
>>
>> I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our staff,
>> we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
>> includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
>>
>> They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed large
>> congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
>>
>> Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia France
>> as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
>> non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
>> organisations have it.
>>
>> We hope to get it in the coming month.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Christophe HENNER | Président
>> ---
>> › Mail : christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr
>> › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
>> › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Anna Torres]

Congrats!!! :) Fantastic news!

2015-12-17 14:34 GMT-03:00 Nicole Ebber :

> Congratulations! Thank you for sharing this milestone and experience
> with us and all the best for accomplishing the next steps. :)
>
> Nicole
>
> On 17 December 2015 at 17:56, Tito Dutta  wrote:
> > That's interesting. Thanks for sharing.
> >
> > On 17 December 2015 at 22:22, Mardetanha 
> wrote:
> >
> >> it is so good news, Thanks for sharing such wonderful news with us
> >>
> >> Mardetanha
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Christophe Henner <
> >> christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >
> >> > A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
> >> >
> >> > A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a
> third
> >> > party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step
> >> for
> >> > us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
> >> > organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
> >> >
> >> > IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3
> >> grounds
> >> > :
> >> > * Governance
> >> > * Accounting
> >> > * Actions effectiveness
> >> >
> >> > The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide
> them
> >> > with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what
> we’re
> >> > doing.
> >> >
> >> > I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our
> >> staff,
> >> > we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
> >> > includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
> >> >
> >> > They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed
> large
> >> > congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
> >> >
> >> > Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia
> >> France
> >> > as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
> >> > non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
> >> > organisations have it.
> >> >
> >> > We hope to get it in the coming month.
> >> >
> >> > All the best,
> >> >
> >> > Christophe HENNER | Président
> >> > ---
> >> > › Mail : christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr
> >> > › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
> >> > › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
> >> > › Twitter : @schiste
> >> > -
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Àlex Hinojo]

Congrats! Good job!

2015-12-17 17:41 GMT+01:00 Christophe Henner :

> Hi everyone,
>
> A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
>
> A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a third
> party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step for
> us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
> organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
>
> IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3 grounds
> :
> * Governance
> * Accounting
> * Actions effectiveness
>
> The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
> with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what we’re
> doing.
>
> I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our staff,
> we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
> includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
>
> They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed large
> congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
>
> Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia France
> as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
> non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
> organisations have it.
>
> We hope to get it in the coming month.
>
> All the best,
>
> Christophe HENNER | Président
> ---
> › Mail : christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr
> › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
> › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Jaime Anstee]

Great news indeed! Congratulations to Wikimedia France and thank you for
sharing this accomplishment.

Wishing you further success in step two.

Cheers,

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Risker  wrote:

> Excellent news, Christophe and everyone else at WMFR!
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 17 December 2015 at 11:41, Christophe Henner <
> christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
> >
> > A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a third
> > party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step
> for
> > us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
> > organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
> >
> > IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3
> grounds
> > :
> > * Governance
> > * Accounting
> > * Actions effectiveness
> >
> > The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
> > with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what we’re
> > doing.
> >
> > I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our
> staff,
> > we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
> > includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
> >
> > They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed large
> > congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
> >
> > Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia
> France
> > as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
> > non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
> > organisations have it.
> >
> > We hope to get it in the coming month.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Christophe HENNER | Président
> > ---
> > › Mail : christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr
> > › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
> > › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
> > › Twitter : @schiste
> > -
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Katherine Maher]

Congratulations WMFR! :D

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Jaime Anstee 
wrote:

> Great news indeed! Congratulations to Wikimedia France and thank you for
> sharing this accomplishment.
>
> Wishing you further success in step two.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jaime
>
> --
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> www.wikimediafoundation.org
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> *https://donate.wikimedia.org *
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Risker  wrote:
>
> > Excellent news, Christophe and everyone else at WMFR!
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> > On 17 December 2015 at 11:41, Christophe Henner <
> > christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
> > >
> > > A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a
> third
> > > party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step
> > for
> > > us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
> > > organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
> > >
> > > IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3
> > grounds
> > > :
> > > * Governance
> > > * Accounting
> > > * Actions effectiveness
> > >
> > > The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
> > > with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what
> we’re
> > > doing.
> > >
> > > I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our
> > staff,
> > > we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
> > > includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
> > >
> > > They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed
> large
> > > congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
> > >
> > > Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia
> > France
> > > as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
> > > non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
> > > organisations have it.
> > >
> > > We hope to get it in the coming month.
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Christophe HENNER | Président
> > > ---
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> > > › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
> > > › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Risker]

Excellent news, Christophe and everyone else at WMFR!

Risker/Anne

On 17 December 2015 at 11:41, Christophe Henner <
christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
>
> A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a third
> party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step for
> us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
> organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
>
> IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3 grounds
> :
> * Governance
> * Accounting
> * Actions effectiveness
>
> The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
> with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what we’re
> doing.
>
> I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our staff,
> we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
> includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
>
> They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed large
> congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
>
> Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia France
> as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
> non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
> organisations have it.
>
> We hope to get it in the coming month.
>
> All the best,
>
> Christophe HENNER | Président
> ---
> › Mail : christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr
> › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
> › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for an additional WMF Community Advocate

[Anna Stillwell]

I love this: "People are more than ingredient lists!" So true.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Maggie Dennis 
wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> Reaching out here because Wikimedians congregate here, as do people who
> know Wikimedians. :)
>
> As some of you have already seen, we are adding an additional WMF Community
> Advocate. We're hoping for somebody who already knows and supports the
> Wikimedia mission, knows how to communicate clearly and cordially, is
> focused on building relationships and finding solutions, can handle tense
> conversations and difficult content, is fluent in (an)other major
> language(s) in addition to English, has project/people management
> experience (even volunteer), and can help with coding and maintaining tools
> in PHP, HTML, CSS, Javascript and SQL. (More detail and additional "hope
> fors" in the job description
>  >.)
>
> Mind you, that's a wishlist, and our perfect candidate may not check all
> boxes. People are more than ingredient lists!
>
> Position is full time and entirely open to remote staffing.
>
> If you're interested, please apply. If you know somebody who might be
> interested, please pass it along.
>
> Best,
>
> Maggie
>
> P.S. In case the above link doesn't work, job description:
> https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/132232?t=3nu14v#.VnMnvJMrLq1
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[kayode yussuf]

Congratulations to Wikimedia France. Kayode Yussuf 


On Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:39 PM, Xabier Cañas 
 wrote:
 

 Great news! Congratulations!
On 2015 abe 17 20:38, "Jaime Anstee"  wrote:

> Great news indeed! Congratulations to Wikimedia France and thank you for
> sharing this accomplishment.
>
> Wishing you further success in step two.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jaime
>
> --
>
> Jaime Anstee, Ph.D
> Senior Strategist
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>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> *https://donate.wikimedia.org *
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Risker  wrote:
>
> > Excellent news, Christophe and everyone else at WMFR!
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> > On 17 December 2015 at 11:41, Christophe Henner <
> > christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
> > >
> > > A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a
> third
> > > party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step
> > for
> > > us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
> > > organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
> > >
> > > IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3
> > grounds
> > > :
> > > * Governance
> > > * Accounting
> > > * Actions effectiveness
> > >
> > > The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
> > > with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what
> we’re
> > > doing.
> > >
> > > I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our
> > staff,
> > > we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
> > > includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
> > >
> > > They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed
> large
> > > congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
> > >
> > > Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia
> > France
> > > as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
> > > non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
> > > organisations have it.
> > >
> > > We hope to get it in the coming month.
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Christophe HENNER | Président
> > > ---
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Xabier Cañas]

Great news! Congratulations!
On 2015 abe 17 20:38, "Jaime Anstee"  wrote:

> Great news indeed! Congratulations to Wikimedia France and thank you for
> sharing this accomplishment.
>
> Wishing you further success in step two.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jaime
>
> --
>
> Jaime Anstee, Ph.D
> Senior Strategist
> Wikimedia Foundation
> +1.415.839.6885 ext 6869
> www.wikimediafoundation.org
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> *https://donate.wikimedia.org *
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Risker  wrote:
>
> > Excellent news, Christophe and everyone else at WMFR!
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
> > On 17 December 2015 at 11:41, Christophe Henner <
> > christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
> > >
> > > A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a
> third
> > > party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step
> > for
> > > us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
> > > organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
> > >
> > > IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3
> > grounds
> > > :
> > > * Governance
> > > * Accounting
> > > * Actions effectiveness
> > >
> > > The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
> > > with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what
> we’re
> > > doing.
> > >
> > > I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our
> > staff,
> > > we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
> > > includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
> > >
> > > They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed
> large
> > > congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
> > >
> > > Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia
> > France
> > > as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
> > > non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
> > > organisations have it.
> > >
> > > We hope to get it in the coming month.
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Christophe HENNER | Président
> > > ---
> > > › Mail : christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr
> > > › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
> > > › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
> > > › Twitter : @schiste
> > > -
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

[Danny Horn]

Yes, if there are wishes that we can't work on -- or we can only do one
part of a larger wish -- then it's our team's responsibility to really
think it through, and report back to the community about it.

We're planning to have some checkpoints through the year, where we'll give
a report on how things are going. The first one is going to be at the
Wikimedia Developers Summit in the first week of January, and after the
Summit we'll publish the information, including notes from the
conversations that we have at the event.

Then there are other Wikimedia events that we can use as checkpoints -- the
Hackathon in April, Wikimania in June -- so that we can keep people updated
about how things are going.

We're also keeping our notes on a Meta page, so interested people can
follow along if they like --
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Top_10

Right now, that's just notes from some preliminary assessment meetings, so
it's not particularly thrilling, but ideas will get more concrete as we go.

I'm glad people are excited about this year; we are too.


On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Lane Rasberry 
wrote:

> Wow!
>
> I have strong opinions about everything on this list and apparently so do
> many other people.
>
> It was fun to participate in the proposal process.
>
> If any of these proposals are not feasible to develop then I would enjoy
> reading a short explanation explaining why from the perspective of a
> developer to a layman audience.
>
> The entire list seems like magic to me - it is so many things that I want.
>
> yours,
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Sam Klein 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to all for organizing the survey and for sharing!
> >
> > A lot of these should help people stay in touch on smaller wikis and
> > sibling projects where they are less active (and currently less likely to
> > see pings and messages), so while I also want to see wikisource take over
> > the world, these seem like great choices.
> >
> > It's wonderful to see a cross-organization collaboration topping the
> list.
> >
> > Slow migration back to a single unified namespace:
> > #3. Central global repository for templates, gadgets and Lua
> > #4. Cross-wiki watchlist
> > #8. Cross-wiki user talkpage
> >
> > And a mentor-friendly feature I've wanted for a long time:
> > #10. Add a user watchlist
> >
> > SJ
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Danny Horn  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I'm happy to announce that the Community Tech team's Community Wishlist
> > > Survey has concluded, and we're able to announce the top 10 wishes!
> > >
> > > 634 people participated in the survey, where they proposed, discussed
> and
> > > voted on 107 ideas. There was a two-week period in November to submit
> and
> > > endorse proposals, followed by two weeks of voting. The top 10
> proposals
> > > with the most support votes now become the Community Tech team's
> backlog
> > of
> > > projects to evaluate and address.
> > >
> > > And here's the top 10:
> > >
> > > #1. Migrate dead links to the Wayback Machine  (111 support votes)
> > > #2. Improved diff compare screen  (104)
> > > #3. Central global repository for templates, gadgets and Lua modules
> > (87)
> > > #4. Cross-wiki watchlist  (84)
> > > #4. Numerical sorting in categories  (84)
> > > #6. Allow categories in Commons in all languages  (78)
> > > #7. Pageview Stats tool  (70)
> > > #8. Global cross-wiki user talk page  (66)
> > > #9. Improve the "copy and paste detection" bot  (63)
> > > #10. Add a user watchlist  (62)
> > >
> > > You can see the whole list here, with links to all the proposals and
> > > Phabricator tickets:
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results
> > >
> > > So what happens now?
> > >
> > > Over the next couple weeks, Community Tech will do a preliminary
> > assessment
> > > on the top 10, and start figuring out what's involved. We need to have
> a
> > > clear definition of the problem and proposed solution, and begin to
> > > understand the technical, design and community challenges for each one.
> > >
> > > Some wishes in the top 10 seem relatively straightforward, and we'll be
> > > able to dig in and start working on them in the new year. Some wishes
> are
> > > going to need a lot of investigation and discussion with other
> > developers,
> > > product teams, designers and community members. There may be some that
> > are
> > > just too big or too hard to do at all.
> > >
> > > Our analysis will look at the following factors:
> > >
> > > * SUPPORT: Overall support for the proposal, including the discussions
> on
> > > the survey page. This will take the neutral and oppose votes into
> > account.
> > > Some of these ideas also have a rich history of discussions on-wiki and
> > in
> > > bug tickets. For some wishes, we'll need more community discussion to
> > help
> > > define the problem and agree on proposed 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS

[Gregory Varnum]

Congratulations to WMFR!

-greg

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> On Dec 17, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Xabier Cañas  wrote:
> 
> Great news! Congratulations!
>> On 2015 abe 17 20:38, "Jaime Anstee"  wrote:
>> 
>> Great news indeed! Congratulations to Wikimedia France and thank you for
>> sharing this accomplishment.
>> 
>> Wishing you further success in step two.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Jaime Anstee, Ph.D
>> Senior Strategist
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> +1.415.839.6885 ext 6869
>> www.wikimediafoundation.org
>> 
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
>> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>> *https://donate.wikimedia.org *
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Risker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Excellent news, Christophe and everyone else at WMFR!
>>> 
>>> Risker/Anne
>>> 
>>> On 17 December 2015 at 11:41, Christophe Henner <
>>> christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone,
 
 A quick email to share with you a good news on our side.
 
 A few month ago, Wikimedia France started a process to apply for a
>> third
 party certification called IDEAS. This certification is the first step
>>> for
 us in a process to get recognized Wikimedia France as a serious
 organisation that can be formally trusted by donors.
 
 IDEAS label is hard to get as you have to reach high criterias on 3
>>> grounds
 :
 * Governance
 * Accounting
 * Actions effectiveness
 
 The process took a little over 6 month, and required us to provide them
 with documents, interviews and explanations of what we are and what
>> we’re
 doing.
 
 I’m proud to say that thanks to the work of many, and especially our
>>> staff,
 we received it with flying colors. Usually, IDEAS grant the label and
 includes recommendations for the organization to even do better.
 
 They failed to provide any recommendation in our case and expressed
>> large
 congratulations for exceeding their expectations.
 
 Second step, starting now, is to get formal recognition of Wikimedia
>>> France
 as a General Interest organisation by the french government. Around 10
 non-profits get such recognition every year, and right now only 633
 organisations have it.
 
 We hope to get it in the coming month.
 
 All the best,
 
 Christophe HENNER | Président
 ---
 › Mail : christophe.hen...@wikimedia.fr
 › Mobile : +33(0)6 50 66 47 39
 › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01
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 -
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Certification by IDEAS (Katy Love)

[Satdeep Gill]

Hi,

This actually seems to be an amazing achievemet. Way to go Wikimedia France.

Regards
Satdeep Gill

> On 18-Dec-2015, at 1:12 AM, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
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