+1 - this is a good idea, Risker. Projects from smaller communities get easily outvoted by the more heavyweight projects, and in some cases they may be both easier to implement and have more impact for the projects as a whole than a more popular (but more complex) project on a large wiki.
I also want to echo everyone's comments about determining priorities: this is a really good step to see! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 16 December 2015 at 20:39, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Danny - this looks like a pretty good list. > > Every one of the top-10 proposals is worthwhile all by itself, and a couple > of them have the potential to have multi-project effects; I'm not > suggesting that they be set aside. However, I'd like to suggest that at > the next selection process, a slot be specifically reserved for a project > on one of the less populous projects. The system of selecting the most > popular options almost guarantees that something to improve (for example) > Wikisource or Wiktionary will be an also-ran, simply because there aren't > enough members of those specialized communities to out-vote the really > popular things from Wikipedia. This can lead to the circular effect of > small projects having a hard time expanding their community because of > technical weaknesses which don't get fixed because there isn't a big enough > community to vote to get them to the top of the community tech wishlist... > > Nonetheless, this is a great first attempt at actively involving > communities in determining priorities for this specific WMF team. I hope > that the WMF staff involved have also felt the process was worthwhile, and > I'll really be looking forward to the viability assessments. > > Risker/Anne > > On 16 December 2015 at 15:22, Toby Negrin <tneg...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > No one asked for 10 more wishes? :) > > > > Thanks Danny and the Community Tech team. This is a great model for > working > > with our Communities. > > > > -Toby > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Nirzar Pangarkar < > > npangar...@wikimedia.org > > > wrote: > > > > > It's really cool to see community wish list coming together! > > > > > > > We're going to talk with the other Wikimedia product teams, to see if > > > they can take on some of the ideas the the community has expressed > > interest > > > in. > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Danny Horn <dh...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > >> > > >> I'm happy to announce that the Community Tech team's Community > Wishlist > > >> Survey has concluded, and we're able to announce the top 10 wishes! > > >> > > >> 634 people participated in the survey, where they proposed, discussed > > and > > >> voted on 107 ideas. There was a two-week period in November to submit > > and > > >> endorse proposals, followed by two weeks of voting. The top 10 > proposals > > >> with the most support votes now become the Community Tech team's > > backlog of > > >> projects to evaluate and address. > > >> > > >> And here's the top 10: > > >> > > >> #1. Migrate dead links to the Wayback Machine (111 support votes) > > >> #2. Improved diff compare screen (104) > > >> #3. Central global repository for templates, gadgets and Lua modules > > (87) > > >> #4. Cross-wiki watchlist (84) > > >> #4. Numerical sorting in categories (84) > > >> #6. Allow categories in Commons in all languages (78) > > >> #7. Pageview Stats tool (70) > > >> #8. Global cross-wiki user talk page (66) > > >> #9. Improve the "copy and paste detection" bot (63) > > >> #10. Add a user watchlist (62) > > >> > > >> You can see the whole list here, with links to all the proposals and > > >> Phabricator tickets: > > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results > > >> > > >> So what happens now? > > >> > > >> Over the next couple weeks, Community Tech will do a preliminary > > >> assessment on the top 10, and start figuring out what's involved. We > > need > > >> to have a clear definition of the problem and proposed solution, and > > begin > > >> to understand the technical, design and community challenges for each > > one. > > >> > > >> Some wishes in the top 10 seem relatively straightforward, and we'll > be > > >> able to dig in and start working on them in the new year. Some wishes > > are > > >> going to need a lot of investigation and discussion with other > > developers, > > >> product teams, designers and community members. There may be some that > > are > > >> just too big or too hard to do at all. > > >> > > >> Our analysis will look at the following factors: > > >> > > >> * SUPPORT: Overall support for the proposal, including the discussions > > on > > >> the survey page. This will take the neutral and oppose votes into > > account. > > >> Some of these ideas also have a rich history of discussions on-wiki > and > > in > > >> bug tickets. For some wishes, we'll need more community discussion to > > help > > >> define the problem and agree on proposed solutions. > > >> > > >> * FEASIBILITY: How much work is involved, including existing blockers > > and > > >> dependencies. > > >> > > >> * IMPACT: Evaluating how many projects and contributors will benefit, > > >> whether it's a long-lasting solution or a temporary fix, and the > > >> improvement in contributors' overall productivity and happiness. > > >> > > >> * RISK: Potential drawbacks, conflicts with other developers' work, > and > > >> negative effects on any group of contributors. > > >> > > >> Our plan for 2016 is to complete as many of the top 10 wishes as we > can. > > >> For the wishes in the top 10 that we can't complete, we're responsible > > for > > >> investigating them fully and reporting back on the analysis. > > >> > > >> So there's going to be a series of checkpoints through the year, where > > >> we'll present the current status of the top 10 wishes. The first will > > be at > > >> the Wikimedia Developer Summit in the first week of January. We're > > planning > > >> to talk about the preliminary assessment there, and then share it more > > >> widely. > > >> > > >> If you're eager to follow the whole process as we go along, we'll be > > >> documenting and keeping notes in two places: > > >> > > >> On Meta: 2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Top 10: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Top_10 > > >> > > >> On Phabricator: Community Wishlist Survey board: > > >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/community-wishlist-survey/ > > >> > > >> Finally: What about the other 97 proposals? > > >> > > >> There were a lot of good and important proposals that didn't happen to > > >> get quite as many support votes, and I'm sure everybody has at least > one > > >> that they were rooting for. Again, the whole list is here: > > >> > > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results > > >> > > >> We're going to talk with the other Wikimedia product teams, to see if > > >> they can take on some of the ideas the the community has expressed > > interest > > >> in. We're also going to work with the Developer Relations team to see > if > > >> some of these could be taken on by volunteer developers. > > >> > > >> It's also possible that Community Tech could take on a small-scale, > > >> well-defined proposal below the top 10, if it doesn't interfere with > our > > >> commitments to the top 10 wishes. > > >> > > >> So there's lots of work to be done, and hooray, we have a whole year > to > > >> do it. If this process turns out to be a success, then we plan to do > > >> another survey at the end of 2016, to give more people a chance to > > >> participate, and bring more great ideas. > > >> > > >> For everybody who proposed, endorsed, discussed, debated and voted in > > the > > >> survey, as well as everyone who said nice things to us recently: thank > > you > > >> very much for coming out and supporting live feature development. > We're > > >> excited about the work ahead of us. > > >> > > >> We'd also like to thank Wikimedia Deutschland's Technischer > > >> Communitybedarf team -- they came up with this whole survey process, > and > > >> they've been working successfully on lots of community wishes since > > their > > >> first survey in 2013. > > >> > > >> You can watch this page for further Community Tech announcements: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/News > > >> > > >> Thanks! > > >> > > >> Danny Horn > > >> Product Manager, WMF Community Tech > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wmfall mailing list > > >> wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfall > > >> > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wmfall mailing list > > > wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfall > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
