Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

[Yair Rand]

There are several more issues I've noticed with the new website:
* According to the notice at the bottom, the company "Automattic Inc." is
receiving all sorts of data about all visitors to the site, including
location information, cookie data, data from pixel tags/web beacons used to
track visitors and target ads on other WordPress sites, and other data.
* The "non-wiki privacy policy of the Wikimedia Foundation" linked at the
bottom is different than the regular privacy policy. Why is this?
* Much of the content is essentially English-Wikipedia-only. "Visit The
Teahouse for a friendly place to learn about editing" Most Wikipedias don't
have teahouses or equivalents.
* In "Wikimedia projects": "Wikipedia - All the world's knowledge". See
[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information]].
* "Working with partners like Google, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and
UNESCO, Wikimedia...". I don't think most Wikimedians are okay with the WMF
describing Google as among its partners. Nor the Met or UNESCO, for that
matter.
* In the "Technology" section, there's a paragraph devoted to bragging
about how NASA has an internal Mediawiki wiki. I don't think that belongs
there.
* The actual Wikimedia Foundation Mission is kind of buried deep in the
site. The Mission is the definitive version of what the WMF is supposed to
be doing, and I really think it should be highlighted somewhere in a more
prominent position.

"The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people
around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free
license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and
globally.

In collaboration with a network of chapters, the Wikimedia Foundation
provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework for
the support and development of multilingual wiki projects and other
endeavors which serve this mission. The Foundation will make and keep
useful information from its projects available on the Internet free of
charge, in perpetuity."

-- Yair Rand

2018-08-03 17:12 GMT-04:00 Andy Mabbett :

> On 2 August 2018 at 02:51, Gregory Varnum  wrote:
>
> > You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to clear your
> browser's cache):  https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>
> The home page currently says:
>
>" Everything on a Wikimedia site is available as Creative Commons
> material. "
>
> That is not true. Material includes:
>
> * PD content (copyright expires; US government, etc)
> * Fair-use copyright material.
>
> In the latter case, suggesting otherwise could be harmful to our users.
>
>
> Furthermore, the "Sesame Street" image used on the site's home page
> and the linked article, is labelled on Commons: "This work might not
> be available under a free license in the United States because it is
> based on an artwork or sculpture that may be protected by copyright
> under U.S. law."
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
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> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] August 2018 "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"

[Richard Ames]

I think Rupert has a point.   I would consider getting up at 5AM for a
general conversation but not to be bored.

More loose, fun would be good.   I can't do the end of this month - will be
travelling.

Cheers, Richard.

On Monday, 6 August 2018, rupert THURNER  wrote:

> pine, i find the lack of feedback a pity, so let me give at least my
> personal impression. "activities and metrics" sounded bureaucratic, and it
> sounded like work, not rewarding. the opposite of fun. not sure if a
> regular meetup would work better? a hangout? same time all the time. no
> matter how many persons are there, maybe once a month? one would need to
> think a little about the fun though.
>
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 11:09 PM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Given the lack of interest and lack of suggestions, I'm going to cancel
> the
> > meeting. However, if other people would like to be bold in organizing a
> > meeting like this, they are welcome to do so.
> >
> > I would like to encourage interpersonal and social connections among
> > good-faith Wikimedia content contributors and grassroots project
> > organizers, and I'd be glad to see suggestions and initiatives which do
> > this.
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Pine W  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The number of people who have participated in the Doodle poll is very
> > low.
> > > Before I give up on the idea of having a community metrics and
> activities
> > > meeting, would anyone like to make a suggestion about how a meeting
> like
> > > this could be more interesting or useful?
> > >
> > > Pine
> > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Pine W  wrote:
> > >
> > >> I am attempting this one more time, with more advance notice and some
> > >> alterations to the agenda.
> > >>
> > >> Here is a Doodle poll with options for scheduling:
> > >> https://doodle.com/poll/iycrgia2wqune63g.
> > >>
> > >> I have created a page on Meta where people who want to include an
> agenda
> > >> item can do so: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik
> > >> i/Community_Metrics_and_Activities_Meeting
> > >>
> > >> This is an experiment. I hope that a meeting like this can facilitate
> > and
> > >> nurture international connections, and I hope that people will be
> > >> interested enough to participate.
> > >>
> > >> The meeting platform will be Zoom .
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] August 2018 "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"

[rupert THURNER]

pine, i find the lack of feedback a pity, so let me give at least my
personal impression. "activities and metrics" sounded bureaucratic, and it
sounded like work, not rewarding. the opposite of fun. not sure if a
regular meetup would work better? a hangout? same time all the time. no
matter how many persons are there, maybe once a month? one would need to
think a little about the fun though.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 11:09 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Given the lack of interest and lack of suggestions, I'm going to cancel the
> meeting. However, if other people would like to be bold in organizing a
> meeting like this, they are welcome to do so.
>
> I would like to encourage interpersonal and social connections among
> good-faith Wikimedia content contributors and grassroots project
> organizers, and I'd be glad to see suggestions and initiatives which do
> this.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The number of people who have participated in the Doodle poll is very
> low.
> > Before I give up on the idea of having a community metrics and activities
> > meeting, would anyone like to make a suggestion about how a meeting like
> > this could be more interesting or useful?
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Pine W  wrote:
> >
> >> I am attempting this one more time, with more advance notice and some
> >> alterations to the agenda.
> >>
> >> Here is a Doodle poll with options for scheduling:
> >> https://doodle.com/poll/iycrgia2wqune63g.
> >>
> >> I have created a page on Meta where people who want to include an agenda
> >> item can do so: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik
> >> i/Community_Metrics_and_Activities_Meeting
> >>
> >> This is an experiment. I hope that a meeting like this can facilitate
> and
> >> nurture international connections, and I hope that people will be
> >> interested enough to participate.
> >>
> >> The meeting platform will be Zoom .
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] August 2018 "Community Metrics and Activities Meeting"

[Pine W]

Hi all,

Given the lack of interest and lack of suggestions, I'm going to cancel the
meeting. However, if other people would like to be bold in organizing a
meeting like this, they are welcome to do so.

I would like to encourage interpersonal and social connections among
good-faith Wikimedia content contributors and grassroots project
organizers, and I'd be glad to see suggestions and initiatives which do
this.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The number of people who have participated in the Doodle poll is very low.
> Before I give up on the idea of having a community metrics and activities
> meeting, would anyone like to make a suggestion about how a meeting like
> this could be more interesting or useful?
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Pine W  wrote:
>
>> I am attempting this one more time, with more advance notice and some
>> alterations to the agenda.
>>
>> Here is a Doodle poll with options for scheduling:
>> https://doodle.com/poll/iycrgia2wqune63g.
>>
>> I have created a page on Meta where people who want to include an agenda
>> item can do so: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik
>> i/Community_Metrics_and_Activities_Meeting
>>
>> This is an experiment. I hope that a meeting like this can facilitate and
>> nurture international connections, and I hope that people will be
>> interested enough to participate.
>>
>> The meeting platform will be Zoom .
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pine
>> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>>
>
>
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