[Wikimedia-l] Jointly they edit

2013-04-05 Thread Виктория
Greetings, everybody

This PLoS One paper about Wikipedia community had been cited by the
traditional press:

Jessica J. Neff, David Laniado,  Karolin E. Kappler, Yana Volkovich, Pablo
Aragón, Andreas Kaltenbrunner

*Jointly They Edit: Examining the Impact of Community Identification on
Political Interaction in Wikipedia*

Our results indicate that users who proclaim their political affiliation
within the community tend to proclaim their identity as a ‘Wikipedian’ even
more loudly. It seems that the shared identity of ‘being Wikipedian’ may be
strong enough to triumph over other potentially divisive facets of personal
identity, such as political affiliation.

Regards
Victoria
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian internet censorship

2013-02-12 Thread Виктория
There was an attempt to curtail access to Wikipedia in School N22 in Orel
in October - an assistant prosecutor put some Russian swear words into a
search engine on one of the schools' computers and - o dear! - discovered
that the Russian Wikipedia has an article about swear words citing them.

The provider got a demand to block access to the page. But AFAIK this is as
far as this particular story went; Wikipedia is too high profile to start a
war with it.

There is a Russian saying: However strict Russia's laws may be, their full
power is reduced due to a lack of regular enforcement.
Victoria


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote:

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:43:25 -0600, Samuel Klein wrote:

 Russia seems to be experimenting with Internet blacklist and whitelist
 programs.  Is ru:wp likely to be affected by this?


 http://globalvoicesonline.org/**2013/02/03/russian-internet-**
 censorship-imitates-satire/http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/02/03/russian-internet-censorship-imitates-satire/


 https://www.accessnow.org/**blog/2013/02/08/russia-**
 blacklists-site-hosting-blogs-**of-prominent-journalistshttps://www.accessnow.org/blog/2013/02/08/russia-blacklists-site-hosting-blogs-of-prominent-journalists


 SJ

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 To my understanding, this is unpredictable. The laws in the form they
 passed the parliament make, in principle, some content in Wikipedia and on
 Commons illegal. On the other hand, the laws are not reasonable, and will
 be implemented occasionally. Whether Wikipedia is going to be affected is
 probably determined by whether some zealous investigator will decide to
 pursue the case. So far, they first warned websites and then blacklisted
 them if no reaction was forthcoming, but this practice can change anytime.

 Cheers
 Yaroslav


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board vote on narrowing focus

2012-11-02 Thread Виктория
Great news - I propose a heading for the Signpost Board unanimously agreed
to the Executive
Director proposal that Wikimedia movement fends for itself.

Victoria

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear all,

 At its in-person meeting on 26 October, the board unanimously agreed to
 accept the recommendation to narrow focus as presented by the Executive
 Director.

 This vote has been published at:
 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Vote:Narrowing_Focus

 Best
 Bishakha
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The new narrowed focus by WMF (cleaner version), apology

2012-10-26 Thread Виктория
Well, I am a former Fellow e.g. there is no chance that I'll get another
Fellowship and I have no connection to the research but wholehartedly agree
with thses programmes continuation.

And your theory of give  us, [insert you definiton here] more money
completely breaks down on the Global South support - they don't participate
in this discussion, because they have more important thing to do such as
earning a living in very harsh conditions.

Regards

Victoria


On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Denny Vrandečić 
denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote:

 Just a comment on the discussion:

 I would find it refreshing if people were not defending funds that
 apply mostly to themselves. I saw, in discussions of the essay,
 arguments by researchers saying that more money should go to
 researchers, by fellows and want-to-be fellows that the fellowship
 program should not be cut, by chapter associated that funding for
 supporting the chapters should not be cut, and by people who have been
 to Wikimania that the money for supporting Wikimania should not be
 cut.

 If we remove all arguments of I am an X, and money supporting X
 should not be cut this discussion would become rather short as of
 now.

 One of my favorite 20th century philosophers, a specialist on justice
 and fairness, has described an interesting concept, and I would very
 strongly recommend to adopt it during policy and strategic discussions
 like this:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_ignorance

 Cheers,
 Denny


 2012/10/26 David Goodman dgge...@gmail.com:
  I owe a number of good people an apology. I have worked for several
  self-protecting bureaucracies myself, and it
  is possible, though not easy, , for individuals to do good work there.
   I never intended to imply that everyone there is incompetent, though
  it is certainly my opinion that some of the people assigned to some of
  the programs I have been involved in have been.  I admit that my anger
  is an inappropriate reflection of my frustration at my inability to
  work with those in one particular program.
 
  On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:54 PM, David Goodman dgge...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  One obvious possibility for support is the chapters and the thematic
  organizations; even if the WMF continues these fellowships as it
  should, the other bodies in the movement should supplement them--it is
  good to have more than one source of funds and more than one body
  deciding on requests.  But whether their work can be actually
  implemented at those levels is another matter.
 
  The proposal at meta says the Wikimedia Foundation was never able to
  resource the fellowships to the point where they could achieve
  significant impact:  I don't think the resource at issue is primarily
  money, considering that in all recent years we have had not only
  surpluses, but greater than expected surpluses.  The resource which is
  lacking is sufficient qualified people at the Foundation to work with
  the fellows and help implement their projects. Rather than get such
  people--which admittedly would require a change in WMF culture--the
  WMF staff finds the easiest thing is to not even attempt to make the
  improvements; it is too troublesome to deal with the good ideas of the
  community, so the reaction is what one expects of self-protecting
  incompetent bureaucracies: diminish the flow of good ideas.
 
 
 
  On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Steven Zhang cro0...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  In my opinion, the value of fellowships in my opinion is huge, and I
 feel that ceasing to support projects like the Teahouse would be a real
 shame. That said, I do feel there are other ways that individual editors
 could get the support they need to work on critical projects. As long as
 this remains in some capacity, then I think that could work too.
 
  Regards,
 
  Steve Zhang
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 22/10/2012, at 10:25 AM, Jacob Orlowitz wikioca...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  A letter in support of the Community Fellowship program from past,
  current, and prospective Fellows,
 
  The WMF has expanded profoundly over the past decade, and especially
  in the last few years.  Recently initiatives to streamline and focus
  the WMF have been undertaken; while these efforts are worthy in spirit
  and necessary at some level, one useful if not vital program has been
  caught in that process:  The Community Fellowship program.  We would
  like to express our strong support of this valuable and important
  program.
 
  The Fellowship program is first and foremost a community-based
  program.  It selects editors to work on projects -- those which are
  novel and have yet to be tried, those that have been tried but have
  not been rigorously developed or tested, and those otherwise that need
  financial, technical and institutional backing to succeed.  It
  represents a direct line of support from the WMF to
  community-organized, community-driven, and community-maintained
  projects.
 
  We strongly believe that the 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The new narrowed focus by WMF

2012-10-19 Thread Виктория
This proposal reminds me of management buyout, which Wikipedia defines as
form of acquisition where a company's existing managers acquire a large
part or all of the company from either the parent company or from the
private owners.

There always been ambiguity to the roles of WMF - does it have right to
interfere with Community decisions, especially highly controversial ones?
In what form it should communicate with highly dispersed, varied community.
I cannot say that I completely agreed with 5 year plan, but at least it
have given a clear directions and even (some, not all) achievable goals:
attraction of new editors, including women, helping the Global South to
access free knowledge.  Of course, not all initiatives were working, but at
least the was movement in the right direction.

I understand that it wasn't easy for the WMF employees, but we all hope
that working for a non-profit organisation is not just a day, 9 to 5 job
(which are disappearing fast anyway). And now the management found how to
end all this - curtail awkward, highly demanding activities on the ground
in less civilised world and concentrate on relatively easy, structured
work, which can be done in sunny San Francisco - engineering and grant
making.

I cannot say anything against engineering, this is a cornerstone, although
I cannot see how management, Legal etc. engagement with people on the
ground have interfered with programmers work and how refocusing will
help to create Visual Editor. My worry is about grant making, forgive
me, I am not a native speaker, so I can just guess that this means grant
distributing.

When the chapters started appearing, I thought  they will be local WMF,
which will build bridges between WMF and local communities. This is not
what happened. I don't want to go into details as to why, but Fir WMF had
already withdrawn support for the Chapter fundraising through the banner,
and now if I understand correctly the Chapters re supposed to fend for
themselves completely - they want to do it anyway, but this is a different
story.

So WMF will collect the money and then will distribute it by the means
unknown.  As a former member of the Grant Committee I can say that the
current process is not very efficient and there is no alternative proposed.
 And  if WMF focus on distributing grants instead of helping directly, it
will become incredibly difficult for people with no experience in a highly
specific task of grant-writing (=community members) to get their
initiatives off the ground, and the money will go to third parties.  During
the restructuring time WMF will stop supporting really working things
such as Wikimania, leaving it to fend for itself, just like chapters.

I wonder at what point European Chapters, lead by highly efficient German ,
will realise that they don't need WMF, buy servers and fork.

I can only hope that the Board will not agree with this proposal and WMF
will find some other way to reduce work-related stress.

Victoria
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-11 Thread Виктория
Milos,

BTW, 292:22 doesn't look like a lack of participation nor as a lack of
consensus. And the actions which affect the real world have their
right time, unlike building the knowledge.

Did you count how many of thsee 292 votes, especially among the last couple
of hundred, have a right for RFA vote and how many among 22 (mainly
opinions, not votes) are admins? The poll was formulated in such a way
(against censorhip), that it begged for Support and the short time didn't
allow a lot of people to express their opinion - an opinion  have to be
formulated, written down, even edited, unlike vote.

What we have is a flasmob, which is very dangerous thing to approve. This
time we were lucky that the poll was in general vein of the WM movement
strategy, but knowing the situation in Russia we can (very soon) have, for
example, a


Russian Wikipedia for Russians


banner  on the main page  after 300 editors voted for it.


Regards

Russian-speaking British/Belarusian citizen


Victoria
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