Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a group, and COI to an edit
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way: 1. it should knows groups 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile 3. allow to select one of the groups joined to an edit when saving 4. add a checkbox COI to an edit, meaning potential conflict of interest 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in history views 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in history views 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group page, or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page. I think Rupert's proposal does not go far enough in terms of addressing the potential conflict of interests by contributors because it focuses exclusively on paid edits while failing to address other conflict of interests problems that lead to neutrality issues. While anyone should be free to edit, the edit box should contain a dynamic box at the bottom that includes a potential list of conflicts that create bias problems based on the conflict. The user, before submitting their edit, should click each box verifying what their (potential) advocacy problems are so that their edits may be vetted. This includes gender, religion, nationality, ethnicity, political alignment, Political party membership, academic discipline, level of education, yearly earnings, city you live in, and employer. So if you are editing an article about Serbian politics, you would be asked if you are a Serb nationalist, a Croatian nationalist, a right wing political party member, a left wing political party member, male, Christian, Muslim, have a PhD, work for the government, work for for a non-profit, if you live in Belgrade, etc. This would increase Wikipedia's transparency and accountability of editors for their actions. It would actively discourage advocacy of all types, including the paid type. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bohdan Melnychuk bas...@yandex.ru wrote: Some WMUA members stay on barricades. Other help in hospitals. IDK if right now but they do regularly. --Base I've blogged about this issue at http://wikinewsreporter.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/ukrainian-civil-unrest-and-sochi-reporting/. The people I've dealt with in the chapter have been awesome all things considered in trying to support the movement by providing free information while at the same time trying to deal with everything that is going on around them. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] online survey invitation
Can you provide more information about this survey? Some of the questions feel really vague and context specific. There are some terms in there that appear to be aimed more for the researcher than the respondent ease in answering. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:24 AM, zhuangziyun ziyun_zhu...@hotmail.comwrote: Excuse me, could you please help me with my paper by filling out a questionnaire? I am currently doing a project about personality traits and knowledge sharing in Wikipedia. The survey will take about 5 min of your time. Link: http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1538439/Wikipedia-Survey-Personality I need about 200 respondents, so your little help counts A LOT to me and I would GREATLY appreciate it! Thank you so much in advance! PS: If something is unclear or difficult to understand (English is not my first language), please tell me. I will fix it immediately. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- twitter: purplepopple ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of two new user groups
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Michel Castelo Branco michelcastelobra...@gmail.com wrote: Unity was achieved two years ago for a Brazilian chapter. This user group proposal is a condition imposed by AffCom for a future apply as a chapter after1 year. The group accepted it in an open discussion. So, here we go... Michel Castelo Branco Did aff-comm initially recommend to the Wikimedia Foundation board that Wikimedia Brazil be approved as a chapter? Or did aff-comm talk them into becoming a usergroup before any approval? -- twitter: purplepopple ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop
Hi Chris, If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic organization, why did you chose to use a plural? And The Wikinewsie Group has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem. What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be incurred by individuals but by their organizations. As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears to run counter to all of that. No explanation other than We talked down the price! appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night. There is no agenda for this conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs. The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France. These are by and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of funding. They are clearly not being targetted for training. The people who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and you're off to charge them large amounts. I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor funds, are a good use of those funds. I don't see how expecting people to incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines. What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less developed chapters? Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds, following WMF's best practices for grant funding... These are off the table? What else is there? Sincerely, Laura Hale On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote: Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting other payment option in the way I said. In response to another off list query, I should point out that unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting recognition. -- mobile: 635209416 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group News Edition 6, December 2, 2013
Hi, This is just a notification that the latest edition of The Wikinewsie Group News newsletter can be found at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/6 . Highlights: The Wikinewsie Group News Edition 6, December 2, 2013 If you know anyone interested in Wikinews, journalism on Wikimedia projects or The Wikinewsie Group, please encourage them to subscribe to the newsletter by adding their name to the listhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter . The Group - Aff-comm recommended to the Wikimedia Foundation Board that The Wikinewsie Group be recognised as a thematic organization in early November. [1]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/The_Wikinewsie_Group_-_November_2013 Education - Wikinews Education Programhttp://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/12/02/wikinews-education-program/ blog post was published on Wikimedia's official blog. - Discussions were had on IRC and Skype about the possibility of installing the education extension on Ukrainian, Czech and Korean Wikinews. While these could be used to potentially re-invigorate the local communities and provide a cohort of new contributors, the limited contributor base at the moment makes it difficult to implement. Greater partnerships would need to be done with chapters to provide people to assist local projects in running any education initiative. - What is news? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:What_is_news.pdf handout was created to supplement existing training materials as this is an area where new contributors sometimes have issues on English Wikinews. - Documenting your original sport reportinghttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Documenting_your_original_sport_reporting.pdf was created to supplement Wikinews Original Sport Reportinghttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews_Original_Sport_Reporting.pdf. Assistance is requested in translating these documents into Spanish and Ukrainian. Outreach - LauraHale attended Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2013https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013 in Slovakia representing The Wikinewsie Group. She had conversations with people from several chapters about the potential to do things with TWG including the Polish, Estonian, Serbian, Czech and Ukrainian chapters. Original reporting projects - The paperwork was submitted at the end of the month to send five Wikinews reporters to the Sochi Paralympic Games. - Attempts were made to secure media accreditation for the Commonwealth Games. The application was unsuccessful. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource Community User Group recognized
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You can learn more about the group and how to join at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_User_Group The Affiliations Committee resolution is at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Wikisource_Community_User_Group_%E2%80%93_November_2013 . The group has already signed the user group agreement, their first round of recognition runs until 31 November 2014. Please join me in welcoming them and wishing them luck. Welcome and good luck. :) It is very encouraging to see people from sister projects coming together to try to work more collaboratively together inside their own language groups and to develop more formal ties with existing chapters to facilitate programming to support the work being done on them. :) Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: FYI, on the last Wikipedia Weekly podcast, we talked with Sage Ross about the plagiarism issue, and he walked through the study with some very interesting insights. Video here, and the discussion started at 11 minutes, 30 seconds into the podcast. I've done a study of student contributions on English Wikinews. We've found that only about 15% of student submissions have a copyright issue. The level of plagiarism and copyright problems is about the same for regular contributors, new contributors and student contributors on English Wikinews with that range of 10 to 15%. This is an issue we have to be on top of because nothing gets published on the project without being reviewed for this issue. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group News - Edition 5, November 8, 2013
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/5 The Wikinewsie Group News Edition 5, November 8, 2013 Project news - The Wikinewsie Group/Local Wikinews policieshttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Local_Wikinews_policiesis the start of a guide that explains local Wikinews project policies with the goal of making it easier to recognise credentials across project, build on accumulated reputation from one project to another and facilitate translation work. - Historical Czech Wikinews experimenthttp://okinokynko.blogspot.cz/2013/10/historical-news-czech-experiment-with.htmlis a blog entry by Okino https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Okino that looks at the community impact of allowing writers to write Wikinews articles from a past perspective, IE writing a story about a historical battle as if you were a journalist writing that article the day after it happened. The purpose was to attempt to make Wikinews more collaborative in nature and avoid the time constraints of the immediacy of news reporting. Okino shows that while the reaction to the idea was positive, the true interest in writing the articles of this type was small as the vast majority of them were written by him. - A conversation is taking place on Wikinoticias about allowing CC-BY-NC images to be locally uploaded.[1]https://es.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinoticias:Caf%C3%A9#CC-BY-NC - A conversation is taking place on English Wikinews with a WMF staff member about the future of search and potential special search features for Wikinews projects.[2]https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#New_Search_Coming_-_Please_Help_Shape_It Training materials https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/The_first_time_writing_for_Wikinews_good.ogv A video for new reporters who lost their first article on English Wikinews - A one page guidehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Avoid_Plagiarism_on_Wikinews.pdfand a screencasthttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Plagiarizing_on_Wikinews.ogvwere created that explain how to avoid plagiarism on Wikinews. Available data suggests this is somewhat of an issue for new and student reporters on English Wikinews, with roughly 10 to 20% of all submitted articles having some sort of copyright issue. - Training materials were created to better support new reporters wanting to produce photo essays. They can be found at Photo Essays for Wikinewshttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Photo_Essays_for_Wikinews.pdf, Photojournalist worksheethttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Photojournalist_worksheet.pdf, and Wikinews Photo Essay Formattinghttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews_Photo_Essay_Formatting.pdf. Assistance is requested in translating these to other languages and localizing them to local project requirements. This would be very helpful ahead of the Sochi Paralympic Games, where there are expected to be a number of photo essays produced. - Given the difficulty of new reporters being unable to get their first article published on Wikinews, a video was created to encourage these writers to stick with it. It can be found at The first time writing for Wikinews good.ogvhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_first_time_writing_for_Wikinews_good.ogv. It is somewhat tongue in cheek, and tries to address the emotional implications of a not ready review. The problem of getting new reporters who are unsuccessful at getting their article published has been identified as a major area for work. It has a large impact on reporter retention. Of interest for journalists - Copyright's Role in a Free Presshttp://copyrightalliance.org/2013/10/copyrights_role_free_press#.Uleru1Ar2Sois an article by Terry Hart of the copyright alliance on the issue of funding important investigative journalism. Education - Provisional Chairperson LauraHalehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LauraHaleis made a presentation at the EduWiki Conference 2013https://wiki.wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/EduWiki_Conference_2013in Cardiff, Wales about educational efforts on English Wikinews. Findings she included that changes in reviewing practices between semester 1 and semester 2 for one university course saw similar improvements for new reporters. What is good for students is good for the whole community. - With the Education Extension[3]https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EducationPrograminstalled successfully on English Wikinews, a portal was started at WN:EDU [4] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/WN:EDU to encourage and provide training for educators to use Wikinews in their coursework. This is something The Wikinewsie Group is hoping to expand upon in the future, and plans to try to get translated into other languages. Plans are also underway to create a student portal to provide training for students. Many things to Sage
[Wikimedia-l] Thanks for EduWiki conference
I wanted to thank wikimedia UK for organizing EduWiki 2013. I think they did a fantastic job with the conference, managed to get the right people there, opened doors to make things happen and left me motivated to continue to do educational outreach for Wikinews. Combine that with good wifi and decent food, I cannot wait for next year's conference. My only request would be less rain. Great job. :) Sincerely, Laura Hale -- mobile: 635209416 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: On 02.10.2013 14:03, Florence Devouard wrote: Dear friends It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, Kumusha Takes Wiki. Hi Florence, you may want to look at WikiVoyage as well. There, we badly need reasonable info on Africa, and it can come without sources as soon as it is not obvious fairy tales. (It is a pity that Russia never had African colonies, so that the Russian Wikivoyage can not immediately benefit from the project). It might also be worth looking at Wikinews. https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Africa is our category on English Wikinews. ( https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%90%D1%84%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0 is Russian.) https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf/Wikinews has some documents created on editing that might be useful for new contributors. Some one from Wikinews would probably be more than happy to customize learning materials for the project to local needs. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group News - Edition 4, October 1, 2013
A copy of the most recent edition of The Wikinewsie Group newsletter can be found at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/4. This month's edition includes information on: * our progress with aff-comm application. * research being conducted by the group. * education outreach being worked on. * planned original reporting at the Sochi Paralympic Games. * technical updates to e-mail, servers, translation tools, etc. * information for reporters on oppprtunities to report at the United Nations and get more recognition for their work. * technical issues in regards to conducting outreach. * a list of original reporting completed in the past month- Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to talk about public domain, free licenses and fair use. That's not likely to happen given who's in control of those lesson plans. You're still just arguing about the correctness of the material. I agree that this curriculum is stupid and misleading, but that doesn't explain why the WMF should care enough to make a statement, or even continue discussion, about it. One alternative option would be to work with the Education folks and create Wikimedia centric lesson plans for teachers to use that share the values people are expressing. These can be linked on education outreach pages, distributed to chapters, etc. Or general handouts can be made that explain these concepts ad the linked on https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf . This is a nice option because it is pro-active and community driven. If some one does approach the WMF externally asking for support on this issue, they have the materials to then work with. -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com
On Thursday, September 5, 2013, rupert THURNER wrote: Personally i think this is a bad idea, especially with respect to all the nsa discussions. If wmf is not able to host it might be hosted by one of the chapters, or wikinews might accept a new article type blog, what you think? Cool idea, but maybe Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, meta or outreach would be a better fit mission wise? Blog hosting would violate fundamental Wikinews project guidelines regarding neutrality, style guidelines and verifiability. Thus, not a good fit for Wikinews, though I am sure if you contact the local communities, they would appreciate the suggestion. :) (Maybe Spanish Wikinews would appreciate it.) If it was a serious option, Wikinewsie.org is getting Icelandic hosting for our reporting journalism workspace to protect our reporters... I believe we already have a Wordpress install, so as a potential thematic organization, The Wikinewsie Group could be placed to assist. We chose Icelandic hosting for a variety of reasons that have been mentioned in previous security related discussions. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- mobile: 635209416 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:13 PM, JP Béland lebo.bel...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. We also need to include the Omegawiki community. Why? The question of moving them into the WMF fold was pretty much no, because the project has an overlapping purpose with Wiktionary, and the technology they use cannot be supported with the existing resources available. There was a great deal of community reasoned community opposition. If they independently want to engage in the process on the Wikidata side without a goal of creating a competing Wikimedia project, that is one thing... but bringing them to the table as equals sets bad precedent for sister projects, contributor retention, community support, etc. -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: Not commenting on the topic of the thread, is there any data around to show that the English Wikipedia is mainly written by North Americans (aka residents of the US and Canada)? Seems to me that it is likely to be the case but not 100% obvious. The answer would be best answered topically. I have data that shows Australian content tends to be maintained by Australians. When you start looking at some things on the very specific gradient, other nationalistic editing patterns appear. During the London Olympics and Paralympics, there was a large number of UK editors contributing to articles about ALL London Olympic and Paralympic sports. Boccia articles I have found are often updated by Poles. Equestrian has a large number of British contributors. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter: Edition 2, August 6, 2013
The second edition of The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter is officially published at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/2 This edition includes information on GLAM, Education, research activities, technical news, local project news and our original reporting efforts across all projects. To subscribe to our on wiki version, please list your name at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter . Newsletter text below. Sincerely, Laura Hale The Wikinewsie Group News There is less to report, as the group spent time focusing on behind-the-scenes aspects of obtaining thematic organization recognition. Aff-Comm application status updates - The Wikinewsie Group answered several questions from the Affiliations Committee at Talk:The Wikinewsie Group/Bylawshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Wikinewsie_Group/Bylaws . Education and GLAM - Members are working to create educational materials to use at training workshops in English and Spanish. Current print training materials include a one page guide to original sport reporting on English English Wikinewshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews_Original_Sport_Reporting.pdf , a one page guide to conducting multilingual interviewshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Conducting_multilingual_interviews_for_wikinews.pdf , a guide to getting photo essays publishedhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Photo_Essays_for_Wikinews.pdf and a guide to writing for English Wikinewshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews_Guide.pdf . - The University of Wollongong class participation on English *Wikinews* is winding up as the semester ended. It looks like a new semester may be starting soon. The instructor has created a presentation about the class on *Wikinews* that can be found at StudentsInWikinewshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:StudentsInWikinews.ogv . - A member of The Wikinewsie Group met with a GLAM partner about the value of English *Wikinews* and Wikinoticias for freely sharing knowledge about culture. Technical updates - Pi zero has moved to a new phase in the development of an improved reviewing tool for English *Wikinews*. - Gryllida is working on the development of a tool to make translating material from one project to another easier. The new beta *wmtrans* translation tool here https://tools.wmflabs.org/wmtran/, which you can use to translate*Wikipedia* and *Wikinews* articles from one language to another. Its difference from the Meta translation tools is include the the ability to translate an article as a whole, per-paragraph, and add new paragraphs if desired; a dictionary box for you to look up geographical names without loading entire Wikipedia pages; and whole-page translation philosophy instead of translating by parts. The tool also features a multilingual interface; you can add new sections to data.inihttps://tools.wmflabs.org/wmtran/data.ini to add your own. You are encouraged to send them, and bug reports, to Gryllida http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Gryllida. - Discussions have been going on behind the scenes about the potential for The Wikinewsie Group to support the technical aspects for Wikinews project development following suggestions on Wikimedia-l that this would be a place chapters could demonstrate leadership potential and work with the Foundation. There are currently a number of developers active in the Wikinews community. Research - Given feedback by a member of the Wikimedia Foundation Board (Samuel Klien http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sj) that the English language project should consider content import from other free news sources as a way of increasing community participation, content output and traffic, research was done inside the community using another language project as a baseline to determine the potential impact in terms of achieving those goals. A copy of this research can be found at Research:Wikinews Content Import Analysishttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikinews_Content_Import_Analysis. In a nutshell, the findings are: content import did *not* result in increased community output or increased community size. Content import also resulted in fewer page views per published article. Content import was not successful at achieving a positive community or traffic related impact. - A tiny piece of research done examining relative article popularity by year on English *Wikinews* can found at Article rank and article datehttp://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:LauraHale/Article_rank_and_article_date. More in-depth research along these lines may produce interesting results. Across the languages - Over on Italian Wikinews http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/it: on July 25, they hit 30,000 total pages. - English Wikinews completed elections for their Arbitration Committeehttp://en.wikinews.org/wiki
[Wikimedia-l] Research:Anatomy of English Wikipedia Did You Know traffic
Hi, I posted research about the factors that may impact English Wikipedia Did You Know article traffic on the day. Because the research is a bit long, a copy of it can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anatomy_of_English_Wikipedia_Did_You_Know_traffic Summary: This research examines the traffic of 544 English Wikipedia Did You Knows to try to determine which variables play a role in the determining the number of page views an article will get on the day. It largely concludes that the number of dependent and independent variables make it to difficult to isolate specific reasons why one type of article performs better than another, though there are some general time and topics that will likely result in greater views. Any feedback is appreciated either here, on the research talk page or privately. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Research:Anatomy of English Wikipedia Did You Know traffic
On Saturday, August 3, 2013, Kerry Raymond wrote: Hi, Laura! Hi Kerry. Thanks for the comments. :) I wonder if a variable worth considering is the number of views of the DYK vs the average number of page views of the article(s) (per day/week/month or whatever) promoted by the DYK *before* the publication of the DYK (obviously this can only measured for expanded articles rather than new ones). The hypothesis here is that more popular topics make more popular DYKs. This is actually one of the areas that is worth looking at further. People have attempted to time DYKs to coincide with certain events. TonyTheTiger is actually very good at doing this for some his hooks. It can and sometimes does create tension in the project as people try to get things timed for these events and not everyone wants to oblige them. (One situation that particulary comes to mine is the Kony2012 article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kony_2012 where the article was stalled at DYK because a reviewer did not want to time it to coincide with an already large media blitz.) It just would require a lot of subject knowledge to do any indepth research on this topic and looking through T:TDYK to see where things are in the special holding areas often to identify some of these. Another interesting variable is number of page views of the article in the days/weeks/months after the DYK. It would be interesting to know the extent to which DYKs drive additional interest in the topic both in the short term and whether any increase in interest is sustained longer term. I would hypothesize any initial sharp increase during the DYK, with a sharp fall-off after the DYK finishes but with a small sustained elevation. Yes, my casual observation has been that historically, articles get an average page views per month bump after DYK that they do not enjoy with other processes like GA or peer review. (This casual observation and assumption further research would bear it out as likely fact is based on the fact that you have rapid content development other processes do not require, and then subsequent SEO stengthening by appearing on the front page.) I think having looked at the articles the hypothesis is true, but would need a great deal of additional data that you also have two mini traffic bumps prior to appearing at DYK, with the first being from the contributors working on the article, and the second as a result of the DYK review. It would also be interesting to see if articles mentioned in DYKs show any increased edit activity OR the creation of new inbound links to the article in the short or long term, but I am less sure about what is the baseline for comparison (given that a DYK article will have recently been created or expanded, suggesting an abnormally high level of edit activity immediately preceding the DYK). Possible proxies are articles in the same categories? The possible baseline would be new articles that meet DYK articles that do not appear at DYK or conversely comparing the article's editing history in several periods: Before DYK work, during DYK expansion, during DYK review, the day of and the week after DYK review, and the two month period after the DYK. (I had actually considered doing this type of research to look at the contributions and DYK, but it would serve a completely different purpose. Hence, it would need to be retooled. I think this could potentially be one of the strengths of DYK that people fail to consider in that it does give new articles of a slightly higher caliber more eyes and potential contributors from the established editing pool than the article would otherwise get. I would love to see someone do research on the contribution effect of DYK, especially say if they could possibly compare it to other processes in terms of contributor participation. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- -- mobile: 635209416 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the WP will never be a real encyclopaedia
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote: Can you honesty tell me that you have not come across articles that are 'untouchable'? That you know they convey a view that is not entirely right, but YOU and I cannot change it? Can you tell me that you have not come across editors who are hell-bent on preserving this or that article just as it is? I too am a journalist with my work published on two different continents in print. I am also a social media metrics lover. As a journalist, I value verifiable, fact based, neutral reporting. If you are making the claim that English and Portuguese Wikipedia are doomed, I would love to see some verifiable, fact based, neutral oriented data sets to support the claim, especially as this would imply systematic bias on a large scale. You have pulled one article and non-neutrally labeled it as a representative article for all projects. Yes, I know of a number of articles and topics that are pretty much untouchable but this is far from 99% of all articles on the project. (I would put the number at probably 0.1% and that feels generous.) This feels like a sensationalist claim (which I would normally say is trumped up by the media in order to spin a story, but this is not a media story) based on one or two articles. Bad research. Bad reporting. There are ways to get attention to this VERY, VERY important topic without resorting to sensationalist calls that have little thoughtful documentation. -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaborative machine translation for Wikipedia -- proposed strategy
On Saturday, July 27, 2013, David Cuenca wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:30 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org javascript:;wrote: This statement seems rather defeatist to me. Step one of a machine translation effort should be to provide tools to annotate parallel texts in the various wikis, and to edit and maintain their parallelism. Scott, edit and maintain parallelism sounds wonderful on paper, until you want to implement it and then you realize that you have to freeze changes both in the source text and in the target language for it to happen, which is, IMHO against the very nature of wikis. Translate:Extension already does that in a way. I see it useful only for texts acting as a central hub for translations, like official communication. If that were to happen for all kind of content you would have to sacrifice the plurality of letting each wiki to do their own version. Actually, this sort of translation service might be extremely useful for us on Wikinews. We have a fair amount of direct cross translation work from one language to the other. Our articles generally become non-editable after a short period of time because of the nature of news reporting. There are issues for things like original reporting where getting say original Czech language reporting outside the major news stories that international media can easily sell for syndication do not get reported. Thus more local news from minority languages being shared... yeah, big benefit for us. :) There might be a few Wikinews language projects that would be willing to sign on as beta testers for a collaborative translating tool. :) I think one of our regulars, Gryllida, has been trying to develop a tool to make translating easier so it would fit really well with existing project goals. Sincerely, Laura Hale -- -- mobile: 635209416 twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter - Edition 1
Originally published at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/1 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/1#mw-navigationhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/1#p-search The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter Sharing news about the group's activities and things taking place on local Wikinews projects. Shortcut http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Shortcut: WM:WIKINEWSIE http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM:WIKINEWSIE Key resources - Home http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group - TWG Newsletterhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter - #wikinews-group irc://irc.wikimedia.org/wikinews-group - The Wikinewsie Group IRC Channel - wikinewsie[image: at ]googlegroups.com - Email discussion list - join here!https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=defromgroups#!forum/wikinewsie The Wikinewsie Group News[edithttp://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/1action=editsection=1 ] Since mid-April, supporters of The Wikinewsie Group have been quite active, doing a number of activities in support of the organization. These include selecting a provisional board, engaging in research projects, working to support original reporting, discussing setting up off-line events, and promoting our efforts and the broader work being done by Wikinews reporters. - On May 4, a meeting was held to select the provisional board. It was decided that the board would be composed of the following people: LauraHale http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LauraHale (Chair), Pi zero http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pi_zero, Brian McNeilhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Brian_McNeil , Bjarkihttp://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bjarkiaction=editredlink=1 ,ProtoplasmaKid http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ProtoplasmaKid. The total number of people and roles was based on the draft bylaws. 18 people, a little under half of all people who were listed as supporters, attended the meeting. aff-comm has been advised of this, and that we are ready to discuss the group's bylaws with them. They have responded back to indicate their review will start shortly. - Tentative steps are being taken to have a Wikimedia conference in Iceland with a Wikinews workshop as a component of it. This would likely be in December to coincide with the 10th birthday of Icelandic Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/is:. Having some discussions about the possibility of having a small Wikinews conference somewhere in Europe sometime in the next year. - Wikinews:GLAM http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/en:Wikinews:GLAM was created after writing about previous experiences with GLAM projects on English Wikinewshttp://en.wikinews.org/wiki/en:Wikinews:GLAM/Case_studies and content related to GLAMs across all projectshttp://en.wikinews.org/wiki/en:Wikinews:GLAM/Coverage. Hopefully, with groundwork underway, there should be two announcements about Wikinews and GLAM projects by the end of June that will build upon previous success. - It does not look like there is a single presentation about Wikinews at Wikimania in Hong Kong has been approved. Given that, plans are to have some sort of Wikinews meetup while there independent of the official tracks. - Efforts are underway to do a better job at translating articles from one language to another, and successfully guide them through any local review processes. This is not a one way street of material from English Wikinews to other languages: We have successfully had two articles start on Spanish Wikinews that were translated to English Wikinews, where they passed the local review process and were successfully published. Comments on this effort are welcome at The Wikinewsie Group/Project planninghttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Project_planning and User talk:LauraHale: WORTNEThttp://en.wikinews.org/wiki/en:User_talk:LauraHale#WORTNET . - Efforts are underway to develop a matrix to understand key policy, community and content requirement differences between different Wikinews projects. Once complete, this should ease cross Wikinews collaboration by having a starting point to discuss content related issues when translating for review, and trying to standardize any policies across projects. - Four pieces of research have been completed. They include Blocks on English Wikinewshttp://en.wikinews.org/wiki/en:User:LauraHale/Blocks_on_English_Wikinews , Wikinews:GLAM/Coveragehttp://en.wikinews.org/wiki/en:Wikinews:GLAM/Coverage , Research:Wikinews Review Analysishttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikinews_Review_Analysis and English Wikinews and the Gender Gaphttp://en.wikinews.org/wiki/en:User:LauraHale/English_Wikinews_and_the_Gender_Gap. If you are doing any research, formally or informally, about any language Wikinews project,
