Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement
2012/9/7 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com On 7 September 2012 20:40, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free license... Well, it's Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike, so will have to attribute Wikitravel and the original author(s) on every single page. http://wikitravel.org/shared/Copyleft Why attribute Wikitravel? The license only requires the author to be attributed, not the first publisher. Ideally, content will be copied across with the page history intact, which will constitute the appropriate attribution (in the same way it does on Wikipedia). I haven't been following too closely - are there any dumps available? It seems unlikely it will be possible to get any now (I doubt IB can be compelled to provide one). WikiTeam did some backups in 2011 but only the last version for every page, because the server was weak and unable to provide the complete history http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/downloads/list?can=2q=wikitravel Indeed, they have started to protect themselves against the content export http://wikitravel.org/en/Special:Export ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement
When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, not its authors, so we can put This text comes from Wikitravel. Anyway, if we are going to use Wikitravel texts, writing a script to scrape just the usernames from histories is trivial http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Kaprunaction=history 2012/9/7 Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Why attribute Wikitravel? The license only requires the author to be attributed, not the first publisher. Ideally, content will be copied across with the page history intact Really? it says.. (2) credit the author, licensor and/or other parties (such as a wiki or journal) in the manner they specify; ..and yeah, we don't appear to have the full history. -- Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org Operations Engineer ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement
How to re-use Wikitravel guides http://www.webcitation.org/6AVYKMbhE Example of credits: http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Singaporeaction=credits 2012/9/7 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, not its authors, so we can put This text comes from Wikitravel. Anyway, if we are going to use Wikitravel texts, writing a script to scrape just the usernames from histories is trivial http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Kaprunaction=history That's not really accurate, and not how Wikimedia projects expect to be credited either. Wikipedia or Wikitravel are not the authors of any project content (other than, for Wikitravel, that written by employees in the course of their employment). ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Endangered languages, a new project by Google
A new project by Google to protect endangered languages around the world: http://www.endangeredlanguages.com English blog post: http://googleblog.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/endangered-languages-project-supporting.html Spanish translation: http://googleespana.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/la-conservacion-de-las-lenguas-en.html Remember, there is a deadline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:There_is_a_deadline : ) -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched
Mike is the terror of deletionists. Good work. 2012/6/10 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Hi, I have launched speedydeletion.wika.com , it is updated every 30 minutes with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable and hoaxes, not others). it is running on the en.wikipedia.org. the sources for the script are all on git hub and are a merger of pywikipediabot and the wikiteam codebases. hope you enjoy it, thanks, mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Study: Nobody cares about your copyright
Lol, 14 years term. Good luck. That is a lost battle. I think that the useful approach is to spread the word about free licenses, that allow to use content NOW. 2012/5/21 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com 14 years is a fine place to start. Are there any existing campaigns pushing for it? S. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2012 18:59, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the right term here is 0 years. It is also not life + 70. Perhaps 7 + 7. I suggested 14 as a likely figure because that figure is already in common currency - as it was the term in the UK (Statute of Anne) and in the US (Copyright Act of 1790). And then Sage Ross turned up the recent study suggesting a 15-year term would be the correct length to maximise artistic production (though I think the number is a bit conveniently close to 14 years and would like to see multiple competing studies that show their working): http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1436186 The Economist also ran an editorial pushing 14 years: http://www.economist.com/node/1547223 So, yeah, 14 year term is the meme. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fire Drill Re: Wikimedia sites not easy to archive (Was Re: Knol is closing tomorrow )
There is no such 10GB limit, http://archive.org/details/ARCHIVETEAM-YV-6360017-6399947 (238 GB example) ArchiveTeam/WikiTeam is uploading some dumps to Internet Archive, if you want to join the effort use the mailing list https://groups.google.com/group/wikiteam-discuss to avoid wasting resources. 2012/5/18 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Hello People, I have completed my first set in uploading the osm/fosm dataset (350gb unpacked) to archive.org http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.de/2012/05/upload-finished.html We can do something similar with wikipedia, the bucket size of archive.org is 10gb, we need to split up the data in a way that it is useful. I have done this by putting each object on one line and each file contains the full data records and the parts that belong to the previous block and next block, so you are able to process the blocks almost stand alone. mike ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
[Wikimedia-l] Knol is closing tomorrow
Dear all; First it was Encarta, then printed Britannica. Tomorrow, Knol.[1][2] It is not a good moment for Wikipedia rivals. We at Archive Team are attempting to download all the 700,000 Knols.[3] For the sake of history. Join us, #archiveteam EFNET. Regards, emijrp [1] http://knol.google.com/k [2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7144970.stm [3] http://db.tt/GNrEh61y -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons
2012/4/24 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Where's the latest thread on the Timed Media Handler progress? I am meeting with MIT Open CourseWare tomorrow - they want to expand the set of videos they released last year under CC-SA, starting with categories / vids that would be fill gaps on Wikipedia. Any thoughts on how to make that collaboration more effective would be welcome. SJ You can upload them to Internet Archive, if Wikipedia has temporal issues with videos. When the problems are fixed, we can move them from Internet Archive to Wikimedia Commons. -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harvard University: Drop paywalled journals, publish open access
2012/4/24 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Tangential, but highly relevant to the goal of free content: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/apr/24/harvard-university-journal-publishers-prices Exasperated by rising subscription costs charged by academic publishers, Harvard University has encouraged its faculty members to make their research freely available through open access journals and to resign from publications that keep articles behind paywalls. http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k77982tabgroupid=icb.tabgroup143448 The Library has never received anything close to full reimbursement for these expenditures from overhead collected by the University on grant and research funds. The Faculty Advisory Council to the Library, representing university faculty in all schools and in consultation with the Harvard Library leadership, reached this conclusion: major periodical subscriptions, especially to electronic journals published by historically key providers, cannot be sustained: continuing these subscriptions on their current footing is financially untenable. Doing so would seriously erode collection efforts in many other areas, already compromised. Meanwhile in Wikipedia we accept these gifts[1] to put links to paywall content. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HighBeam -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0
2012/4/25 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Thanks for sharing, I had read about it on the NYT but nothing was said on license. So now the USA have more open bibliographic data than Germany/Europe? :) lobid.org is a very nice initiative, but other catalog systems have very complex interactions between hundreds or thousands of entities and it's very hard to change the licenses. The main problem is usually deduplication and quality of the records, any information on this for Harvard's data? Mateus Nobre, 25/04/2012 19:44: Add ALL at Wikisource! Wikisource? This is only metadata. Perhaps it is OK for Wikidata. -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons
2012/4/24 Andrew Cates andrew.ca...@soschildren.org Um. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Video appear to all be images relevant to the topic of videos. Not themselves videos. Sorry, a missing S, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos Owner? Not personally but I am the CEO of the charity which owns them and I can release them. Is there any actual video anywhere on WP and in what format? Yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_containing_video_clips The prefered format is Theora https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Video Andrew == (Please, press Reply all to send your e-mails to the mailing list too, and not just me) On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:26 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/4/24 Andrew Cates andrew.ca...@soschildren.org I am wondering about releasing many hundreds of Africa educational videos under creative commons. They are the videos currently at www.our-africa.org which is a child generated reference site about Africa. There is a lot of material in the videos which could be edited and used to improve Wikipedia article (a solar kettle in operation, a maize plant grinding maize, a variety of musical instruments in use, different religious festivals, cocoa plantations etc etc) However at present Wikipedia does not seem to support or want video material. Wikipedia supports video with [[Media:]] tag. Also, Wikimedia Commons has a little collection of them https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Video Does anyone have a feel whether this is likely to change? http://www.videoonwikipedia.com Also, this message is more related to Wikimedia or Commons mailing lists (cc:). If you are the owner of those videos and you want to donate them, some people can help you in the process. Andrew ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: Harvard Library releases 12M bibliographic records under CC0
Very good news for Open Library, and for us too. 2012/4/24 Samuel Klein s...@wikimedia.org This is big news -- though still only part of Harvard's full collection of records. Following the British Library's release of 3M bib records under CC0 18 months ago: http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k77982pageid=icb.page498373 David Weinberger writes: This is the largest contribution of full bib records we know of. Stuart Shieber [of the Berkman Center] (and of the Office of Scholarly Communication) was the driving force behind this. Woohoo! David W. ___ Wikipedia-l mailing list wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide
2012/4/11 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com I agree that travel content is within the scope. In addition to the content itself, which helps other people, the process of writing and communicating travel information is educational for the writer. There was a session about WikiTravel on at RCC2011 Canberra, where the need to change host was discussed, and forking generally was discussed. https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/University_of_Canberra/RCC2011/All_about_Wikitravel The wikiteam dumps of wikitravel are a bit old now; is someone working on making fresh dumps publicly available? https://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/downloads/list?can=2q=wikitravel https://groups.google.com/d/topic/wikiteam-discuss/0gSFlnxeKOo/discussion Hi; Furthermore, WikiTravel dumps generated by WikiTeam include only the last revision for every article. WikiTravel server is a bit weak, and full history exports fail. We would like to download a full dump if available. Regards, emijrp -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
