Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Johan Jönsson 
2012/8/3 Rui Correia :
> Dear All
>
> I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
> collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I don't
> see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
> is. Is there an agreement in place for this?

It could also be pointed out that neither WMF nor consensus on any
particular Wikipedia version can grant anyone permission to use
content from Wikipedia without proper attribution. We who write agree
to make our texts available under certain terms, but we still retain
copyright. And some text, if it has been made available under CC-BY-SA
somewhere else and later incorporated into Wikipedia, might not even
be written by Wikipedians.

If it's not properly licensed and attributed, you'd have had to ask
every single (major) contributor to agree privately.

//Johan Jönsson
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread James Alexander 
You might want to add it to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks so that it's kept
track of and I know some users have done some great work at getting mirrors
taken down through the process there. I also passed it along to our legal
team who's looking into it.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Rui Correia  wrote:

> Thanks Mark and Mike
>
> Mike, well done on finding the "About"! I looked for it and could not find
> it.
>
> But surely saying that "Most of the contents are licensed under
> CC-BY-SA"
> is not a licence to copy the entire Wikipedia wholesale, without as much as
> a mention thereof?
>
> Is there a mechanism to deal with this sort of thing? Where can I refer it
> to for action?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui
>
> On 3 August 2012 14:23, Mike Dupont 
> wrote:
>
> > on the copyright page they say that the content is mostly cc-by-sa
> > http://en.goldenmap.com/stylesheets/terms.php
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Delirium  wrote:
> > > It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some
> internal
> > > links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the link to
> > > Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's just one
> of
> > the
> > > (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit the source of
> > their
> > > content.
> > >
> > > The English Wikipedia keeps track of such sites here:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA_Compliance
> > >
> > > -Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/3/12 1:44 PM, Rui Correia wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Dear All
> > >>
> > >> I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
> > >> collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I
> > don't
> > >> see anywhere any information expalining what the association/
> permission
> > >> is. Is there an agreement in place for this?
> > >>
> > >> Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest
> > >> http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Rui
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Rui Correia 
Thanks Mark and Mike

Mike, well done on finding the "About"! I looked for it and could not find
it.

But surely saying that "Most of the contents are licensed under
CC-BY-SA"
is not a licence to copy the entire Wikipedia wholesale, without as much as
a mention thereof?

Is there a mechanism to deal with this sort of thing? Where can I refer it
to for action?

Regards,

Rui

On 3 August 2012 14:23, Mike Dupont  wrote:

> on the copyright page they say that the content is mostly cc-by-sa
> http://en.goldenmap.com/stylesheets/terms.php
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Delirium  wrote:
> > It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some internal
> > links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the link to
> > Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's just one of
> the
> > (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit the source of
> their
> > content.
> >
> > The English Wikipedia keeps track of such sites here:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA_Compliance
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/3/12 1:44 PM, Rui Correia wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear All
> >>
> >> I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
> >> collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I
> don't
> >> see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
> >> is. Is there an agreement in place for this?
> >>
> >> Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest
> >> http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Rui
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Mike Dupont 
on the copyright page they say that the content is mostly cc-by-sa
http://en.goldenmap.com/stylesheets/terms.php

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Delirium  wrote:
> It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some internal
> links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the link to
> Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's just one of the
> (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit the source of their
> content.
>
> The English Wikipedia keeps track of such sites here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA_Compliance
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
> On 8/3/12 1:44 PM, Rui Correia wrote:
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>> I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
>> collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I don't
>> see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
>> is. Is there an agreement in place for this?
>>
>> Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest
>> http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rui
>>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Delirium 
It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some 
internal links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the 
link to Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's 
just one of the (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit 
the source of their content.


The English Wikipedia keeps track of such sites here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA_Compliance

-Mark


On 8/3/12 1:44 PM, Rui Correia wrote:

Dear All

I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I don't
see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
is. Is there an agreement in place for this?

Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest
http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest

Best regards,

Rui




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[Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Rui Correia 
Dear All

I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I don't
see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
is. Is there an agreement in place for this?

Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest
http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest

Best regards,

Rui

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Advocacy, Human Rights, Media and Language Work Consultant
Bridge to Angola - Angola Liaison Consultant

Mobile Number in South Africa +27 74 425 4186
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