Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-11 Thread Cristian Consonni
2015-01-10 10:56 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org:
 This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from this
 group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying to
 unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).

(sorry for the maybe even sillier answer)
Have you tried logging out and/or uising different browsers?

Cristian

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-11 Thread Bence Damokos
I found the same issue. The best thing to do is to send a letter to the
unsubscribe address from your various adresses (change the from field in
Gmail), and it should do it. (Doesn't work for the opt out option for
resubscribing.)

Best regards,
Bence

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com
wrote:

 2015-01-10 10:56 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org:
  This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from
 this
  group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying
 to
  unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).

 (sorry for the maybe even sillier answer)
 Have you tried logging out and/or uising different browsers?

 Cristian

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-11 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Dan,

unfortunately several people use multiple email addresses, and this optout
doesn't work properly if that is the case - because when you go to that
link, google insists that you want to unsubscribe with your gmail address
(which might not be the one you have been subscribed with).

Right now, I'm just marking all emails as spam - hoping that this won't
affect the very similarly layouted real wikimedia-l messages.

Lodewijk

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 If people are being resubscribed after having unsubscribed, apparently
 changing your settings here will stop that from happening:
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!optout

 I was subscribed by them and was kind of amused by the disaster and level
 of paranoia on these lists for a while, so I didn't bother unsubscribing.
 Now that someone is just copy-pasting articles about Wikipedia that are
 years old to one of the newer lists, it's sufficiently boring for me to
 unsubscribe.

 Dan

 On 9 January 2015 at 09:35, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in
  wrote:
 
   I think it will be better if most of us can Report the Group.
 
 
  Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to
 resolve
  the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been
  fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along.
 
  [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.]
 
  Thanks-
  Luis
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-11 Thread Enock Seth Nyamador
Hi Lodewijk,

The optout didn't work for me too.

Did you try unsubscribing by using the other option provided below optout
in the mails.

That is send a blank mail to the unsubscribe address and this should work.
It worked for me though.

Best,

- Enock
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On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
wrote:

 Hi Dan,

 unfortunately several people use multiple email addresses, and this optout
 doesn't work properly if that is the case - because when you go to that
 link, google insists that you want to unsubscribe with your gmail address
 (which might not be the one you have been subscribed with).

 Right now, I'm just marking all emails as spam - hoping that this won't
 affect the very similarly layouted real wikimedia-l messages.

 Lodewijk

 On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  If people are being resubscribed after having unsubscribed, apparently
  changing your settings here will stop that from happening:
  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!optout
 
  I was subscribed by them and was kind of amused by the disaster and level
  of paranoia on these lists for a while, so I didn't bother unsubscribing.
  Now that someone is just copy-pasting articles about Wikipedia that are
  years old to one of the newer lists, it's sufficiently boring for me to
  unsubscribe.
 
  Dan
 
  On 9 January 2015 at 09:35, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
   On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in
 
   wrote:
  
I think it will be better if most of us can Report the Group.
  
  
   Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to
  resolve
   the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been
   fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along.
  
   [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.]
  
   Thanks-
   Luis
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-11 Thread Rui Correia
Would it not be more practical to ask the list owner at Google to kill
his list and create a new one with a new name and to NOT add members
without their permission?

Rui

2015-01-11 15:39 GMT+02:00 Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com:
 I found the same issue. The best thing to do is to send a letter to the
 unsubscribe address from your various adresses (change the from field in
 Gmail), and it should do it. (Doesn't work for the opt out option for
 resubscribing.)

 Best regards,
 Bence

 On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 2015-01-10 10:56 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org:
  This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from
 this
  group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying
 to
  unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).

 (sorry for the maybe even sillier answer)
 Have you tried logging out and/or uising different browsers?

 Cristian

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-11 Thread Thomas Morton
I think the point is that the list owner is deiberately using those tactics
to gain attention :)

Tom
On 11 Jan 2015 13:55, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote:

 Would it not be more practical to ask the list owner at Google to kill
 his list and create a new one with a new name and to NOT add members
 without their permission?

 Rui

 2015-01-11 15:39 GMT+02:00 Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com:
  I found the same issue. The best thing to do is to send a letter to the
  unsubscribe address from your various adresses (change the from field in
  Gmail), and it should do it. (Doesn't work for the opt out option for
  resubscribing.)
 
  Best regards,
  Bence
 
  On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Cristian Consonni 
 kikkocrist...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  2015-01-10 10:56 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org:
   This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from
  this
   group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're
 trying
  to
   unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).
 
  (sorry for the maybe even sillier answer)
  Have you tried logging out and/or uising different browsers?
 
  Cristian
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-10 Thread Lodewijk
This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from this
group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying to
unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).

The previous time this happened, it has been reported to google dozens of
times without anything being done. I hope your direct contact has more
effect...

Lodewijk

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in
 wrote:

  I think it will be better if most of us can Report the Group.


 Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to resolve
 the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been
 fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along.

 [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.]

 Thanks-
 Luis

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-10 Thread Sydney Poore
I was resubscribed.
Sydney

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On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:18 AM, rubin.happy rubin.ha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was resubscribed, too.

 rubin16

 2015-01-10 19:12 GMT+03:00 Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org:

  On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
  wrote:
 
   This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from
  this
   group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're
 trying
  to
   unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).
  
   The previous time this happened, it has been reported to google dozens
 of
   times without anything being done. I hope your direct contact has more
   effect...
 
 
  I'll pass that on. Also, if anyone has reports of being resubscribed
 after
  unsubscribing (I've already seen two?) please let me know.
 
  Luis
 
 
  
   Lodewijk
  
   On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
  
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar 
 karthik...@wikimedia.in
  
wrote:
   
 I think it will be better if most of us can Report the Group.
   
   
Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to
   resolve
the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been
fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along.
   
[Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.]
   
Thanks-
Luis
   
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-10 Thread rubin.happy
I was resubscribed, too.

rubin16

2015-01-10 19:12 GMT+03:00 Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org:

 On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
 wrote:

  This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from
 this
  group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying
 to
  unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).
 
  The previous time this happened, it has been reported to google dozens of
  times without anything being done. I hope your direct contact has more
  effect...


 I'll pass that on. Also, if anyone has reports of being resubscribed after
 unsubscribing (I've already seen two?) please let me know.

 Luis


 
  Lodewijk
 
  On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
   On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in
 
   wrote:
  
I think it will be better if most of us can Report the Group.
  
  
   Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to
  resolve
   the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been
   fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along.
  
   [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.]
  
   Thanks-
   Luis
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-10 Thread Nathan
As was I.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Sydney Poore sydney.po...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I was resubscribed.
 Sydney

 Sydney Poore
 User:FloNight
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 On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:18 AM, rubin.happy rubin.ha...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I was resubscribed, too.
 
  rubin16
 
  2015-01-10 19:12 GMT+03:00 Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org:
 
   On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
 
   wrote:
  
This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe
 from
   this
group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're
  trying
   to
unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).
   
The previous time this happened, it has been reported to google
 dozens
  of
times without anything being done. I hope your direct contact has
 more
effect...
  
  
   I'll pass that on. Also, if anyone has reports of being resubscribed
  after
   unsubscribing (I've already seen two?) please let me know.
  
   Luis
  
  
   
Lodewijk
   
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org
  wrote:
   
 On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar 
  karthik...@wikimedia.in
   
 wrote:

  I think it will be better if most of us can Report the Group.


 Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to
resolve
 the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been
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 [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.]

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-10 Thread Michael Snow

On 1/10/2015 8:12 AM, Luis Villa wrote:
I'll pass that on. Also, if anyone has reports of being resubscribed 
after unsubscribing (I've already seen two?) please let me know. Luis 
Resubscribing happened to me both with this list and the list from the 
previous cycle.


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[Wikimedia-l] Please report to Google [was Re: Warning: Wikimedia-l Google Group]

2015-01-09 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in
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 I think it will be better if most of us can Report the Group.


Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to resolve
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