Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[phoebe ayers]

Oops, sorry for typos (and top posting, I'm on my phone). I meant to say I
don't think becoming a user group is a penalty.
On Feb 12, 2014 1:26 PM, "phoebe ayers"  wrote:

> And to Pharos' point, for new groups i don't think becoming a penalty. If
> a group goes from no Wikimedia recognition to being a user group they go
> from no access to resources to access to the Wikimedia trademarks, access
> to grants big and small, listing with other official groups...it's a big
> change. Of course groups might want to become a chapter later on, but
> that's not exactly always an easy process...
> On Feb 12, 2014 1:20 PM, "phoebe ayers"  wrote:
>
>> If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider
>> then case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.
>>
>> If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked
>> to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who
>> haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should
>> apply to be a user group.
>>
>> Phoebe
>> On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos"  wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
>>> volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
>>> currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
>>> recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
>>> founding.
>>>
>>> And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
>>> wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
>>> record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
>>> started before the User Group category was in existence.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
>>> decisions
>>> > that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the
>>> FDC/Annual
>>> > plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
>>> > status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
>>> same
>>> > amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
>>> decided
>>> > that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
>>> years
>>> > of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
>>> incorporated
>>> > entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
>>> >
>>> > The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
>>> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
>>> >
>>> > There is also a FAQ on Meta:
>>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
>>> >
>>> > You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
>>> > November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
>>> > however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
>>> > groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
>>> >
>>> > Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
>>> decisions;
>>> > however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on
>>> the
>>> > meta talk page. Thank you!
>>> >
>>> > for the Board,
>>> > Phoebe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[phoebe ayers]

And to Pharos' point, for new groups i don't think becoming a penalty. If a
group goes from no Wikimedia recognition to being a user group they go from
no access to resources to access to the Wikimedia trademarks, access to
grants big and small, listing with other official groups...it's a big
change. Of course groups might want to become a chapter later on, but
that's not exactly always an easy process...
On Feb 12, 2014 1:20 PM, "phoebe ayers"  wrote:

> If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider then
> case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.
>
> If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked
> to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who
> haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should
> apply to be a user group.
>
> Phoebe
> On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos"  wrote:
>
>> Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
>> volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
>> currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
>> recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
>> founding.
>>
>> And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
>> wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
>> record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
>> started before the User Group category was in existence.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> (User:Pharos)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
>> decisions
>> > that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the
>> FDC/Annual
>> > plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
>> > status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
>> same
>> > amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
>> decided
>> > that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
>> years
>> > of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
>> incorporated
>> > entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
>> >
>> > The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
>> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
>> >
>> > There is also a FAQ on Meta:
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
>> >
>> > You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
>> > November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
>> > however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
>> > groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
>> >
>> > Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
>> decisions;
>> > however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
>> > meta talk page. Thank you!
>> >
>> > for the Board,
>> > Phoebe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[phoebe ayers]

If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider then
case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.

If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked
to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who
haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should
apply to be a user group.

Phoebe
On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos"  wrote:

> Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
> volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
> currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
> recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
> founding.
>
> And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
> wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
> record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
> started before the User Group category was in existence.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
> (User:Pharos)
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers 
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
> decisions
> > that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual
> > plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
> > status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
> same
> > amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
> decided
> > that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
> years
> > of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
> incorporated
> > entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
> >
> > The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
> >
> > There is also a FAQ on Meta:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
> >
> > You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
> > November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
> > however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
> > groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
> >
> > Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
> decisions;
> > however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
> > meta talk page. Thank you!
> >
> > for the Board,
> > Phoebe
> > ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[derfussi]

How about the Wikivoyage association…. We have been existing for 7 years now, 
and applied for being recognized as a thematic organisation.






Von: Pharos
Gesendet: ‎Dienstag‎, ‎11‎. ‎Februar‎ ‎2014 ‎20‎:‎57
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Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
founding.

And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
started before the User Group category was in existence.

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions
> that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual
> plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
> status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same
> amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided
> that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years
> of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated
> entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
>
> The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
>
> There is also a FAQ on Meta:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
>
> You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
> November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
> however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
> groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
>
> Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions;
> however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
> meta talk page. Thank you!
>
> for the Board,
> Phoebe
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[Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[Pharos]

Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
founding.

And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
started before the User Group category was in existence.

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions
> that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual
> plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
> status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same
> amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided
> that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years
> of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated
> entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
>
> The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
>
> There is also a FAQ on Meta:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
>
> You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
> November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
> however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
> groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
>
> Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions;
> however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
> meta talk page. Thank you!
>
> for the Board,
> Phoebe
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