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Did they have issues with eg. templates at top of page? On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:13:08AM -0600, Victor Grigas wrote: I interviewed 2 gentlemen who are both blind who use a program called JAWS on desktop machines that reads the Wikipedia page to them, allowing them to edit. On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:26 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- [Non-pgp mail clients may show pgp-signature as attachment] gpg (www.gnupg.org) Fingerprint for key FEF9DD72 5ED6 E215 73EE AD84 E03A 01C5 94AC 7B0E FEF9 DD72 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hi Rupert, Wikimedia UK is currently looking at this in relation to our own wiki. There's some thoughts and notes at https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Accessibility_of_the_Wikimedia_UK_website which draw extensively from information provided by the Royal National Institute of Blind People - http://www.rnib.org.uk/Pages/Home.aspx I hope this is useful. Stevie On 15 January 2014 08:26, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 09:26, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 09:26, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for different languages. It appears if you click the gear icon near the interlanguage links. Among other things, it provides the OpenDyslexic font for some languages written in the Latin alphabet, and it is supposed to be more comfortable to read for dyslexic people. So it can be considered and accessibility tool, but I don't think that it is relevant for visually-impaired people. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014/1/15 Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 09:26, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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WOW on toast! Thanks Amir. On 15 January 2014 09:47, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote: ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for different languages. It appears if you click the gear icon near the interlanguage links. Among other things, it provides the OpenDyslexic font for some languages written in the Latin alphabet, and it is supposed to be more comfortable to read for dyslexic people. So it can be considered and accessibility tool, but I don't think that it is relevant for visually-impaired people. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014/1/15 Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 09:26, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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rupert THURNER, 15/01/2014 09:26: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? WMDE is working on this (mainly Hoo with help by TheDJ), building on recommendations compiled by WMCH. Main coordination page is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accessibility A possible project with a reasonable scale even for a volunteer is IMHO: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Accessibility_for_the_colour-blind Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hoi, What the ULS is.. the universal language selector is started with this little round thingie next to the interwiki links. The fact that it is not even known in this crowd is indicative how little this functionality is known and how few people will find usability tools. One thing we need to do is promote the use of usability tools... this becomes easier when there are more of them Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 10:34, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 09:26, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hoi, How is dyslexia anything BUT a visual impairment ? Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 10:47, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote: ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for different languages. It appears if you click the gear icon near the interlanguage links. Among other things, it provides the OpenDyslexic font for some languages written in the Latin alphabet, and it is supposed to be more comfortable to read for dyslexic people. So it can be considered and accessibility tool, but I don't think that it is relevant for visually-impaired people. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014/1/15 Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 09:26, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, would anybody of you have some starting points concerning wikipedia for visually impaired persons, both computer and mobile devices? Rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, How is dyslexia anything BUT a visual impairment ? Thanks, GerardM Dyslexia can also has some serious auditory symptoms (processing speed, auditory memory, verbal comprehension, voice recognition.. etc). The stereotype is the reading/writing aspect but it is very much not the only one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia James ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hoi, I am totally with you. However we can only help where we can. Providing the font and make it accessible is one way. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 11:18, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, How is dyslexia anything BUT a visual impairment ? Thanks, GerardM Dyslexia can also has some serious auditory symptoms (processing speed, auditory memory, verbal comprehension, voice recognition.. etc). The stereotype is the reading/writing aspect but it is very much not the only one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia James ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Can WMUK collaborate with WMDE (and others) on this to push it forward? Obviously a lot of good work has already been done, but perhaps it now needs some long term commitment and leadership to ensure that what has been done is made easily accessible, and to work on filling gaps in functionality (covering all aspects of disability). Michael WMUK Chair On 15 Jan 2014, at 09:34, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hoi, I am talking with the Polish chapter to extend the functionality of the OpenDyslexic font ... I am waiting for their GO/NOGO. Thanks, GerardM On 15 January 2014 12:08, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote: Can WMUK collaborate with WMDE (and others) on this to push it forward? Obviously a lot of good work has already been done, but perhaps it now needs some long term commitment and leadership to ensure that what has been done is made easily accessible, and to work on filling gaps in functionality (covering all aspects of disability). Michael WMUK Chair On 15 Jan 2014, at 09:34, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :) On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception. It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some people only see yellow on white..) If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)... Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is being developed. Thanks, GerardM ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On 1/15/2014 8:13 AM, Victor Grigas wrote: I interviewed 2 gentlemen who are both blind who use a program called JAWS on desktop machines that reads the Wikipedia page to them, allowing them to edit. In the US, I believe JAWS is the predominant tool employed to assist blind computer users. At least if you deliver content that needs to comply with Section 508 (information accessibility requirements from the 1973 Rehabilitation Act), performance with JAWS is the most likely way that an agency will evaluate the content if they're serious about meeting the requirements. It's limited to operating in a Windows environment, but the program has an established user base that I understand is quite active in providing feedback so the software can be maintained and improved. I haven't dealt with it in a wiki context, but if it's an effective aid for editing as well as reading, I'm glad to hear it. --Michael Snow ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
