Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Grants Program Retrospective 2009-2012 published

2013-03-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Retrospective_2009-2012

I left some comments on talk. Two small things that struck me are the 
usage of HDI (first time for WMF?) and the fact that some 
recommendation(s) mirror best practices for chapters and can be useful 
for everyone.


Samuel Klein, 15/03/2013 05:02:

After reading this more thoroughly:  I am deeply impressed.  This sort
of review should be carried out for all major ongoing projects.

For instance, it could be useful to have a similar retrospective on
major technical features that have been implemented or formally
requested by large Wikimedia wikis over the past 4 years -- and those
that have been developed by the WMF and either implemented or not
(depending on how they were received).   I realized recently that many
developers believe their work's implementation, and what it is
possible for them to accomplish, is governed by whether the community
likes it or not.  Meanwhile many community members feel they have no
control over what features are developed or prioritized.  An
independent review could help demystify that cycle.


I've no idea what such a review could consist of, but maybe it's one 
more reason to try? (We don't know what we're losing by not doing it.)


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Grants Program Retrospective 2009-2012 published

2013-03-14 Thread Samuel Klein
After reading this more thoroughly:  I am deeply impressed.  This sort
of review should be carried out for all major ongoing projects.

For instance, it could be useful to have a similar retrospective on
major technical features that have been implemented or formally
requested by large Wikimedia wikis over the past 4 years -- and those
that have been developed by the WMF and either implemented or not
(depending on how they were received).   I realized recently that many
developers believe their work's implementation, and what it is
possible for them to accomplish, is governed by whether the community
likes it or not.  Meanwhile many community members feel they have no
control over what features are developed or prioritized.  An
independent review could help demystify that cycle.

SJ

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:23 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 Asaf Bartov wrote:
Another component of the Wikimedia Foundation's increased focus on
grantmaking is now ready for discussion: it is a retrospective report on
the history, evolution, and processes of the Wikimedia Grants Program (the
Foundation's first, and until fairly recently only, grants program).

We were interested in an independent report by someone with a good
understanding of wikis and our shared values, and chose a local Wikipedian
named Kevin Gorman (User:Kevin Gorman), active on English Wikipedia, who
has volunteered in the Wikipedia Education Program and also had an
(unpaid) internship at the Foundation office in San Francisco for a few
months in 2011.  Kevin was paid our standard contractor wage for his work
on this.

Kevin has posted the report here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Retrospective_2009-2012

 Hi.

 I haven't had a chance to read the report yet, but I just want to say
 thank you for the transparency here. :-)

 MZMcBride



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[Wikimedia-l] WMF Grants Program Retrospective 2009-2012 published

2013-03-13 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear friends and colleagues,

Another component of the Wikimedia Foundation's increased focus on
grantmaking is now ready for discussion: it is a retrospective report on
the history, evolution, and processes of the Wikimedia Grants Program (the
Foundation's first, and until fairly recently only, grants program).

We were interested in an independent report by someone with a good
understanding of wikis and our shared values, and chose a local Wikipedian
named Kevin Gorman (User:Kevin Gorman), active on English Wikipedia, who
has volunteered in the Wikipedia Education Program and also had an (unpaid)
internship at the Foundation office in San Francisco for a few months in
2011.  Kevin was paid our standard contractor wage for his work on this.

Kevin has posted the report here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Retrospective_2009-2012

I'd like to thank Kevin for his work.

I invite anyone interested to read the report and discuss it on its talk
page.  We believe your inputs will help us improve our current and future
processes, especially as we deepen and widen our grantmaking programs and
strategies. We look forward to a productive discussion.

Please _do_ share this message and link with your respective communities
and lists; please _don't_ discuss this on the lists, but on the talk page,
so that Kevin can respond to questions, and so that I and others at WMF can
provide input as well.

Cheers,

   Asaf
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Grants Program Retrospective 2009-2012 published

2013-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
Bravo.  A useful  thoughtful recap.   SJ

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Dear friends and colleagues,

 Another component of the Wikimedia Foundation's increased focus on
 grantmaking is now ready for discussion: it is a retrospective report on
 the history, evolution, and processes of the Wikimedia Grants Program (the
 Foundation's first, and until fairly recently only, grants program).

 We were interested in an independent report by someone with a good
 understanding of wikis and our shared values, and chose a local Wikipedian
 named Kevin Gorman (User:Kevin Gorman), active on English Wikipedia, who
 has volunteered in the Wikipedia Education Program and also had an (unpaid)
 internship at the Foundation office in San Francisco for a few months in
 2011.  Kevin was paid our standard contractor wage for his work on this.

 Kevin has posted the report here:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Retrospective_2009-2012

 I'd like to thank Kevin for his work.

 I invite anyone interested to read the report and discuss it on its talk
 page.  We believe your inputs will help us improve our current and future
 processes, especially as we deepen and widen our grantmaking programs and
 strategies. We look forward to a productive discussion.

 Please _do_ share this message and link with your respective communities
 and lists; please _don't_ discuss this on the lists, but on the talk page,
 so that Kevin can respond to questions, and so that I and others at WMF can
 provide input as well.

 Cheers,

Asaf
 --
 Asaf Bartov
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Grants Program Retrospective 2009-2012 published

2013-03-13 Thread MZMcBride
Asaf Bartov wrote:
Another component of the Wikimedia Foundation's increased focus on
grantmaking is now ready for discussion: it is a retrospective report on
the history, evolution, and processes of the Wikimedia Grants Program (the
Foundation's first, and until fairly recently only, grants program).

We were interested in an independent report by someone with a good
understanding of wikis and our shared values, and chose a local Wikipedian
named Kevin Gorman (User:Kevin Gorman), active on English Wikipedia, who
has volunteered in the Wikipedia Education Program and also had an
(unpaid) internship at the Foundation office in San Francisco for a few
months in 2011.  Kevin was paid our standard contractor wage for his work
on this.

Kevin has posted the report here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Retrospective_2009-2012

Hi.

I haven't had a chance to read the report yet, but I just want to say
thank you for the transparency here. :-)

MZMcBride



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