Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-09 Thread David Gerard
Steven Walling's started an essay on Wikipedia redesigns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unsolicited_redesigns


- d.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-09 Thread Samuel Klein
Ah, it is quite beautiful.  Thanks to the designers for sharing their
visual ideas.  I love seeing design fantasies like this; more please.

The rainbows and color-bars are beautiful, even though some people (in my
family too :) are colorblind.  The color bar would work just fine without
hue, since the one you are focused on gets highlighted and captioned. But I
think that is not the most interesting part of their designs!

On wikipedia.org (and wikimedia.org ...!): it's due for some visual love.
 We could make the search-bar bigger and central, minimize extra text, and
make search and sister projects a visible focus, without hiding
language-names behind a dropdown.

When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current
skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even cover
the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design.  [and every month some
long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to
other languages, which they found useful!]

Hopefully after discussion with them these images/screencaps are usable as
ideas in the on-wiki discussions.

SJ

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Hay (Husky) hus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yup, i think it's pretty nice. I especially like the 'edit' modus with
 the live edit view. And the colored bars on the top of the main page
 indicating the number of articles in a certain language.

 -- Hay

 On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipe...@zog.org
 wrote:
  Well, it's certainly a possible starting point for discussion:
  http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/
 
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[Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-09 Thread Ocaasi Ocaasi
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-09 Thread James Alexander
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 9 August 2012 19:03, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

  When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current
  skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even
 cover
  the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design.  [and every month some
  long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to
  other languages, which they found useful!]


 Oh, someone changed this from defaulting open (like they were finally
 convinced to) to defaulting closed? That's nice. Who did this and
 when?


 - d.



hmm, I'm still seeing it as defaulting open (Tested in new private session
on firefox and  incognito window on chrome).


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-09 Thread Samuel Klein
Open by default for me too on all the browsers I have access to.
The question still came up at Wikimania :-/

Unfair of me to ascribe it to the skin.  I suppose we've been hiding the
existence of other languages since the transition from having them above
the page title in Classic :-)

SJ

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 9 August 2012 19:03, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current
   skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even
  cover
   the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design.  [and every month some
   long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to
   other languages, which they found useful!]
 
 
  Oh, someone changed this from defaulting open (like they were finally
  convinced to) to defaulting closed? That's nice. Who did this and
  when?
 
 
  - d.
 
 
 
 hmm, I'm still seeing it as defaulting open (Tested in new private session
 on firefox and  incognito window on chrome).


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[Wikimedia-l] Al-Jazeera English Fault Lines report on SOPA

2012-08-09 Thread Matthew Roth
This is a segment in the Fault Lines series on AJE about SOPA, the Blackout
and other issues around Controlling the Web.

Features some footage of the WMF offices and clips from Jimmy, among many
others.
http://youtu.be/6FD9urcUWXw

thanks
Matthew

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-09 Thread phoebe ayers
IIRC: languages defaulted closed in a first iteration of the new skin,
and then following discussion/complaints they was set to default open
again. Please don't ask me for links to said discussion, I don't
remember where it was :)

Re: the redesigns --
Personally I don't like this particular proposed redesign, but I do
like in general the idea of people redesigning and remixing WP. Maybe
the page Steven started can evolve into a portal for potential
redesigns, design contests, resources for designers (especially for
people who actually want to get serious with the skin), and community
design challenges... eg SJ suggests that wikipedia.org and
wikimedia.org need love, I'd add the front page of the english
wikipedia to my personal wish-it-were-more-beautiful list!

-- phoebe



On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Open by default for me too on all the browsers I have access to.
 The question still came up at Wikimania :-/

 Unfair of me to ascribe it to the skin.  I suppose we've been hiding the
 existence of other languages since the transition from having them above
 the page title in Classic :-)

 SJ

 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 9 August 2012 19:03, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current
   skin has done that so effectively, that this design team didn't even
  cover
   the 'Other languages' sidebar in their design.  [and every month some
   long-time reader of wikipedia asks me why we stopped including links to
   other languages, which they found useful!]
 
 
  Oh, someone changed this from defaulting open (like they were finally
  convinced to) to defaulting closed? That's nice. Who did this and
  when?
 
 
  - d.
 
 
 
 hmm, I'm still seeing it as defaulting open (Tested in new private session
 on firefox and  incognito window on chrome).


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