Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Pd-Australia
The duration of copyright in photographs was significantly extended as a result of implementing Australia's obligations under the AUSFTA. This made protection for photographs consistent with protection for other types of artistic works. For photographs in which copyrights still subsisted on 1 January 2005, or which are created on or after that date, copyright lasts until 70 years from the end of the year in which the photographer died. Prior to this phototgraphs were PD after 50 years they were taken not after the death of the photographer, Painting etc have always been after the artists death, there was a window of opportunity to copyrighted works in other countries that werent covered by US copyright that the owner could register the work in the US and get copyright reinstate in the US though it *did not could not *be applied if copyright had been extinguished in the originating country, the target group of works for this was some cinamatic and all music where copyright in the US was 20-25 years for foreign works, though it could have been applied to photographs I havent seen any images that have been registered.. It is common practise for Australian institutions to claim copyright on PD images where they dont actually have that right but they can reasonable expect a fee for providing high quality large format copies for reuse so I presume they use the copyright claim as the way of ensuring they get the fee. The image is already used in the FA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Bradman and was on the main page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/August_27,_2008I'd say theres very little doubt given the scrutiny and usage that the image has already had in the last 6 months that its PD 2009/2/10 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com Oh I hate this stuff According to the reading by the Copyright Council of Australia (who are the most conservative in these matters) the rules are that the image is PD if the photographer *died* before 1955 - not whether the photograph was *published* before 1955. So, in the case of Anon photographers this gets even trickier. http://www.copyright.org.au/information/introduction/intro-5.htm I don't know if we want to take their advice, but on that reading it is *likely* that a 1946 photographer probably lived 'till 1955 and therefore the image is *likely* still copyrighted. However, this is NOT the practice on WP to-date and it is not an uncontested reading. -Liam On 2/10/09, YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone who understands PD-Australia look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Donald_Bradman_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948 please The 1955 rule seems to being challenged again ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Chapters meeting
G'day all, I just thought I'd ask the committee (and anyone else) if they've heard anything about possible attendance at an 'all chapters' meeting in Berlin in April... in particular if fund-raising is being considered, or maybe just to check that we're 'on the radar' down here :-) cheers. Peter. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Chapters meeting
coolio! - I'd missed the detail in the minutes (sorry); http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Committee_(2009_January_15) - is there any call for a bit of AU fundraising at this stage? - the minutes indicate we've requested subsidy, and presumably the WMF and the German Chapter are kicking in with some financial support - is this covering enough? - Presumably those interested in bringing Wikimania to these shores are aware of how useful some 'face time' might be with various chapter types - and I wonder if we've considered sending our VP along too? (if he's available, for example?) cheers, Peter, PM. 2009/2/11 Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com 2009/2/11 private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com G'day all, I just thought I'd ask the committee (and anyone else) if they've heard anything about possible attendance at an 'all chapters' meeting in Berlin in April... in particular if fund-raising is being considered, or maybe just to check that we're 'on the radar' down here :-) Yes, it was mentioned in the minutes I posted last week. Brianna, as President, will be going to represent us and we have requested funding. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Chapters meeting
we've said that we're requesting a spot for the Prez, and that in the event that there is funding and all the stars align then we'd like to send the Vice Prez too. There is discussion about whether 1 or 2 people from the various chapters will be going but I think it unlikely given the costs - especially for WM-Au. We've not discussed fundraising or the allocation of funds to this as yet. -Liam On 2/11/09, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: coolio! - I'd missed the detail in the minutes (sorry); http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Committee_(2009_January_15)http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Committee_%282009_January_15%29 - is there any call for a bit of AU fundraising at this stage? - the minutes indicate we've requested subsidy, and presumably the WMF and the German Chapter are kicking in with some financial support - is this covering enough? - Presumably those interested in bringing Wikimania to these shores are aware of how useful some 'face time' might be with various chapter types - and I wonder if we've considered sending our VP along too? (if he's available, for example?) cheers, Peter, PM. 2009/2/11 Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com 2009/2/11 private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com G'day all, I just thought I'd ask the committee (and anyone else) if they've heard anything about possible attendance at an 'all chapters' meeting in Berlin in April... in particular if fund-raising is being considered, or maybe just to check that we're 'on the radar' down here :-) Yes, it was mentioned in the minutes I posted last week. Brianna, as President, will be going to represent us and we have requested funding. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Pd-Australia
Under the FTA copyright in the US is extinguished if the copyright in the originating country was already extinguished at the time of FTA being implimented 2009/2/11 Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com 2009/2/10 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com: According to the reading by the Copyright Council of Australia (who are the most conservative in these matters) the rules are that the image is PD if the photographer *died* before 1955 - not whether the photograph was *published* before 1955. So, in the case of Anon photographers this gets even trickier. http://www.copyright.org.au/information/introduction/intro-5.htm Photos are a special case. Prior to the FTA changes, the rule was 50 years after the photo was *taken*. Any photo taken in Australia before 1 Jan 1955 is in the public domain in Australia. After the FTA changes, the rule became life of the author plus 70, just like for other types of works. This applies to any photo taken after 1 Jan 2005, or any photo still in copyright as at 1 Jan 2005. That's only Australian copyright though, things can be under copyright still in the US even if they are out of copyright elsewhere, thanks to stupid American copyright law. -- Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Australian Higher Education Supplement today - Wikipedia story
Rather negative Wikipedia story in The Australian higher education supplement (page 1, also here: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25037270-12332,00.htm l). Kim Kimberlee Weatherall Senior Lecturer TC Beirne School of Law The University of Queensland St Lucia, Queensland, 4072 Work Telephone: +61 7 3346 7503 Mobile: +61 403 762 544 ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Australian Higher Education Supplement today - Wikipedia story
I think that if people read the article (and haven't already made up their mind) then they will notice the pundit has already made up his mind before he did the interview... 2009/2/11 Kimberlee Weatherall k.weather...@law.uq.edu.au Rather negative Wikipedia story in *The Australian *higher education supplement (page 1, also here: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25037270-12332,00.html ). Kim Kimberlee Weatherall Senior Lecturer TC Beirne School of Law The University of Queensland St Lucia, Queensland, 4072 Work Telephone: +61 7 3346 7503 Mobile: +61 403 762 544 ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Australian Higher Education Supplement today - Wikipedia story
Is the Sunday Times, of the Times of UK? One of their journos bludged his Keith Miller blog post off my article about Miller. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:10 PM, YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.comwrote: I think that if people read the article (and haven't already made up their mind) then they will notice the pundit has already made up his mind before he did the interview... 2009/2/11 Kimberlee Weatherall k.weather...@law.uq.edu.au Rather negative Wikipedia story in *The Australian *higher education supplement (page 1, also here: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25037270-12332,00.html ). Kim Kimberlee Weatherall Senior Lecturer TC Beirne School of Law The University of Queensland St Lucia, Queensland, 4072 Work Telephone: +61 7 3346 7503 Mobile: +61 403 762 544 ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Australian Higher Education Supplement today - Wikipedia story
2009/2/11 Kimberlee Weatherall k.weather...@law.uq.edu.au: Rather negative Wikipedia story in The Australian higher education supplement (page 1, also here: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25037270-12332,00.html). At least they edited out the glaring error in the original Sunday Times copy (that there was vandalism about the author in the Wikipedia article on him; in fact at the time no such article existed). -- Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
