Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creative Commons Australia update

2012-06-13 Thread Liam Wyatt
Quick followup to this...
Thanks to the several folks who've contacted me offlist with ideas/contacts
- I'll be in touch.

There's a small but important correction to the National Museum section:
we're talking about 1,000pixelwidth images, not 100 as I initially wrote.
:-)

Also, Cas Liber - your post today about the Royal Botanic Gardens image
collection sounds really promising! Please tell me if I and/or Creative
Commons Australia can be of assistance there.

Cheers,
-Liam

On Wednesday, 13 June 2012, Liam Wyatt wrote:

 Hi All,

 Just a bit of an update on some of the things that Creative Commons
 Australia are up to that are related to Wikimedia...

 1.
 A couple of weeks ago I believe it was Russavia who was asking about the
 Australian War Memorial (AWM) given commons was working out how to deal
 with many deletions of their content from Commons due to not being in the
 PD in the US -- due to URAA. I've had a bit of a chat and they're
 apparently having some internal meetings to re-investigate their stance on
 what they do when they own the relevant IP to content - and CC-BY is
 specifically on the table as an option. So that's great. Even so, It'll
 take a fair amount of time for any formal policy change to happen even if
 everything goes our way. Watch this space... [these meetings are not 'in
 response to the URAA' but just conveniently timed].

 2.
 I'm in late-stage talks with the National Museum of Australia (NMA) to
 donate about 50 images of objects currently on display in their collection
 - CC-BY at 100pixels (and also hopefully a TIFF quality aerial shot of the
 museum itself). This will be their first foray into Creative Commons so I'm
 quite happy. They're currently just making sure all the metadata is ready,
 the captions are checked by the curators, and approval for this gets
 checked by various managers (given it's their first time using CC).

 3.
 This Friday morning CC-Australia is hosting a general intro to the
 cultural sector (and anyone else really) about Creative Commons in
 Melbourne. http://creativecommons.org.au/ccmelb2012 Myself and some other
 folk are presenting. Feel free to register and come along if you're
 interested/able (though I think anyone on these lists is already very
 familiar with how CC works :-) ) Steven Z - would you be happy my sending
 any GLAMs your way who are interested in talking to a Wikimedian locally?

 4.
 After this the CC team is meeting with Museum Victoria to help them over
 the line to adopt CC for their collection database and other parts of their
 IP. This discussion is about halfway between the AWM and the NMA in terms
 of its progress.

 5.
 Last night I went to a public lecture hosted at UTS (Sydney) called New
 Models for Copyright Law Reform and run by the University of Melbourne
 http://www.ipria.org/events/seminar/2012/CopyrightLawReform/CopyrightReform.htmlThe
  Chair of the proceedings was Jill McKeogh who is the commissioner of
 the forthcoming Australian Law Reform Commission's review of the Copyright
 Act. The presenters (Dan Hunter and Julian Thomas) spent a good proportion
 of their talks discussing how the Wikipedia Blackout against SOPA/PIPA was
 so influential and important. They also argued that the copyright lobby's
 insistence on 'commercial-incentives being the only justification for
 creators' was basically bollocks. You could practically hear the copyright
 maximalists in the room grinding their teeth (and they were all there -
 including reps. from AFACT, the various collecting societies, the Copyright
 Council...). I spoke briefly with Commissioner McKeogh afterwards and she
 said she was very interested in receiving submissions that are from
 organisations who are not the usual suspects [I'm paraphrasing, not
 quoting!].
 So... I highly recommend that Wikimedia Australia (perhaps in
 collaboration with others) make a submission when the call is published -
 which should be soon. http://www.alrc.gov.au/inquiries/copyright(although, 
 the review's ability to do anything will be limited by the scope
 the TPP and ACTA trade agreements
 http://www.zdnet.com.au/acta-tpp-limit-scope-of-copyright-review-339339620.htm-
  the author of this article was also at the seminar). Personally, I'll be
 making a short, private submission focusing specifically on getting a
 statutory provision equivalent to the bridgeman v. corel precedent included
 in the Copyright Act.

 6.
 Tomorrow myself and some other CC folks are meeting with the ABC in Sydney
 to followup on the donation a few months ago of those 20 videos
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_the_Australian_Broadcasting_CorporationWe're
  presenting metrics on use etc. and seeing what stage 2 might look
 like.

 7.
 Finally, I was invited to speak a couple of weeks ago at the State Library
 of NSW's hosting of the State reference librarian's networking group
 meeting
 http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/public_libraries/networking/index.htmlThey've
  been 

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creative Commons Australia update

2012-06-13 Thread Adam Jenkins
Hi!

Pru and I have previously discussed running a workshop, and I'd love
to work with Janet on one. I have a venue that we can use if we don't
want to run it in a library as such, but there is no problems if we
wish to run it somewhere else.

btw, Pru is a librarian and I'm teaching into the Masters of Library
and Information Management at UniSA, so we may have some resources we
can bring to the party from that side of things.

Adam.

On 13 June 2012 22:59, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 13 June 2012 21:27, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote:

 just one point below

 On 13 June 2012 11:09, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 Just a bit of an update on some of the things that Creative Commons
 Australia are up to that are related to Wikimedia...

 1.
 A couple of weeks ago I believe it was Russavia who was asking about the
 Australian War Memorial (AWM) given commons was working out how to deal with
 many deletions of their content from Commons due to not being in the PD in
 the US -- due to URAA. I've had a bit of a chat and they're apparently
 having some internal meetings to re-investigate their stance on what they do
 when they own the relevant IP to content - and CC-BY is specifically on the
 table as an option. So that's great. Even so, It'll take a fair amount of
 time for any formal policy change to happen even if everything goes our
 way. Watch this space... [these meetings are not 'in response to the URAA'
 but just conveniently timed].


 I believe the decision on commons was incorrect as the URAA specifically
 required that for copyright to be restored in the US that the artwork had to
 be registered with in a specific period, I remember a case involving the
 Bradman museum where they tried to enforce copyright on a work under URAA
 and it was dismissed because they had failed to register the work during the
 speficied period. I have also reviewed the dtatbase of restored work can
 couldnt see any apparent Australian images, though are a significant number
 of musical pieces


 2.
 I'm in late-stage talks with the National Museum of Australia (NMA) to
 donate about 50 images of objects currently on display in their collection -
 CC-BY at 100pixels (and also hopefully a TIFF quality aerial shot of the
 museum itself). This will be their first foray into Creative Commons so I'm
 quite happy. They're currently just making sure all the metadata is ready,
 the captions are checked by the curators, and approval for this gets checked
 by various managers (given it's their first time using CC).

 3.
 This Friday morning CC-Australia is hosting a general intro to the
 cultural sector (and anyone else really) about Creative Commons in
 Melbourne. http://creativecommons.org.au/ccmelb2012 Myself and some other
 folk are presenting. Feel free to register and come along if you're
 interested/able (though I think anyone on these lists is already very
 familiar with how CC works :-) ) Steven Z - would you be happy my sending
 any GLAMs your way who are interested in talking to a Wikimedian locally?

 4.
 After this the CC team is meeting with Museum Victoria to help them over
 the line to adopt CC for their collection database and other parts of their
 IP. This discussion is about halfway between the AWM and the NMA in terms of
 its progress.

 5.
 Last night I went to a public lecture hosted at UTS (Sydney) called New
 Models for Copyright Law Reform and run by the University of Melbourne
 http://www.ipria.org/events/seminar/2012/CopyrightLawReform/CopyrightReform.html
 The Chair of the proceedings was Jill McKeogh who is the commissioner of the
 forthcoming Australian Law Reform Commission's review of the Copyright Act.
 The presenters (Dan Hunter and Julian Thomas) spent a good proportion of
 their talks discussing how the Wikipedia Blackout against SOPA/PIPA was so
 influential and important. They also argued that the copyright lobby's
 insistence on 'commercial-incentives being the only justification for
 creators' was basically bollocks. You could practically hear the copyright
 maximalists in the room grinding their teeth (and they were all there -
 including reps. from AFACT, the various collecting societies, the Copyright
 Council...). I spoke briefly with Commissioner McKeogh afterwards and she
 said she was very interested in receiving submissions that are from
 organisations who are not the usual suspects [I'm paraphrasing, not
 quoting!].
 So... I highly recommend that Wikimedia Australia (perhaps in
 collaboration with others) make a submission when the call is published -
 which should be soon. http://www.alrc.gov.au/inquiries/copyright (although,
 the review's ability to do anything will be limited by the scope the TPP and
 ACTA trade agreements
 http://www.zdnet.com.au/acta-tpp-limit-scope-of-copyright-review-339339620.htm
 - the author of this article was also at the seminar). Personally, I'll be
 making a short, private submission focusing specifically on getting