[Wikimediaau-l] Referencing NLA Trove in WP citations
I've been looking at fixing up some citations I wrote many years ago since
I've found that the text of the book I referenced is now available online as
well as having a Trove reference. Trove provides a Wikipedia citation of
the form:
{{Citation | author1=Aird, W. V | author2=Aird, W V | author3=New South Wales.
Metropolitan Water, Sewerage and Drainage Board | title=The water supply,
sewerage, and drainage of Sydney | publication-date=1961 |
publisher=[Metropolitan Water Sewerage and Drainage Board] |
url=https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/21676846 | accessdate=20 January 2018 }}
IMHO, the "url=https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/21676846; is inappropriate
since https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_book says that url= is
"URL of an online location where the text of the publication can be found"
whereas the Trove link is a catalogue record. I think a better Trove link
would be something like id={{Trove|21676846}} but I am unable to find any
suitable template. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Trove_newspaper
is specifically for newspapers).
Would it be reasonable to create a Template:Trove that accepted a Trove
identifier and created a work identifier? (If that was done, ideally the
Trave citation format would change to suit but that's a separate issue).
(And, in this particular case, the actual text is online at
ttps://www.sydneywater.com.au/web/groups/publicwebcontent/documents/document/zgrf/mdq0/~edisp/dd_044331.pdf
so I'd like to be have a that link and a trove reference).
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[Wikimediaau-l] Warringah Wikipedians
I found this in the local rag: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/northern-beaches/have-you-ever-wondered-who-writes-wikipedia-articles-meet-our-local-wikipedians/story-fngr8hax-1227246639828 -- Peter Jeremy pgp3F99IMD828.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] question arising from minutes
On 2011-Mar-24 16:11:34 +1030, Adam Jenkins adam.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: The problem isn't so much with how it is run currently, but that the current model means that the election is run entirely by the previous committee or people from the previous committee: including accepting nominations, managing the count, and handling the results. This is of concern to me as well. Ideally, people who are running for a position shouldn't also be managing the election process, yet at the moment that's how things are set up. Agreed. Given that WMAu now has significant assets, it's even more important that the electoral processes are seen to be independent of the management committee. There are good reasons for doing things the way we have, and as a small organisation with limited funding this wasn't a major concern, but for the long term it would be nice to rethink this - especially as WMAU changes and our responsibilities grow. Even as a small organisation, there's no real reason why an official Returning Officer couldn't be appointed. And WMAu is still a fairly small organisation in membership. Changing how we manage elections wouldn't be difficult or expensive, and I think it would put us in a better position, so it seems worth getting it right now and then not having to worry about this issue again. I've served on the board of a similar type of organisation in the past. Like WM-Au, it had a relatively small membership base but was relatively asset-rich. Elections were under the control of the Returning Officer but he was free to call on volunteers to help with counting. Given that WM-Au relies on electronic distribution of notices and electronic voting, there is very little that a Returning Officer would need to do other than be independent of the committee, drive the voting software and count votes at meetings. I don't see that there is any reason to get an outside organisation to run elections - if nothing else, this would be likely to be a significant cost. -- Peter Jeremy pgpy8vgIWfPdf.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia Day
On 2010-Nov-15 14:51:06 +1100, Angela bees...@gmail.com wrote: Australia is not currently represented in the 'planned events' bit - although there's one rather lonely attendee signed up here; http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Wikipedia_Day It's a shame Recent Changes Camp isn't 2 weeks earlier. It would be ideal if the two events could be at the same time. My feeling as well, though in my case, the disadvantage of the current RCC dates are that they are outside school holidays. -- Peter Jeremy pgpB3HYNH7H16.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families
On 2009-Dec-16 15:45:51 +1100, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote:
No doubt press commentary is worth a look ( see
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/net-censorship-move-a-smokescreen-expert-20091216-kw7d.html
When I voted, the associated poll was 90% against. The timing of
the legislation (just before the next election) suggests that if
the Gov't gets re-elected, it will claim to have a mandate for it.
Also http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/15/2772467.htm
Dealing, as this proposal does, with solely 'RC' content
Except that there will almost certainly be collateral fallout and,
AFAIK, the blacklist will remain secret (which differs from film and
book censorship).
I also suspect that I have less faith
in both the technical structure of the proposed filtering, and the
faesability of appropriate list maintainance than Senator Conroy
Well, as I heard one commentator point out, China manages it so there's
no reason Australia can't. I don't think many people other than
Senators Conroy and Fielding believe it's practical (other than via
the Chinese approach).
- so I'm
rather of the opinion that it probably won't work very well, and probably
won't deliver on the intention which ('assuming good faith' !) is to try and
stop Australian's accessing material we'd likely all agree they shouldn't
be.
It's tongue-in-cheek but here's an initial offering:
http://pymblesoftware.com/store/index.php/systems/tin-foil-hat-isp-filtering-by-pass-router.html
Interestingly, I think it's possible that WMF projects do host 'Category 2
restricted' material (explicitly depict sexual or sexually related activity
between consenting adults in a way that is likely to cause offence to a
reasonable adult) but I don't really have any idea of the ramifications for
that - certainly it wouldn't seem relavent to the Conroy proposal at this
time
I would go further and suggest that it's virtually certain that the
Internet Censor would find something to object to linked from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Human_sexuality
I agree that WMA needs to ensure that it differentiates itself from
Wikipedia.
Some links that may be useful for anyone looking for further reading:
http://www.efa.org.au/
http://nocleanfeed.com/
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Talking about Bert Roberts, Commons, and Wikipedia on ABC Radio in Queensland
On 2009-Nov-14 13:36:25 +1000, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Just a heads-up that yesterday I recorded an interview with Scott Mayman of ABC Radio, ... The interview will be broadcast on Scott's Afternoon Chillout programme next week, most probably on Friday. People on the Gold Coast can listen on 91.7FM, and on the Sunshine Coast can listen on 90.3FM. And it should be streamed via: http://www.abc.net.au/goldcoast/radio/schedule.htm?section=online Will it be podcast? -- Peter Jeremy pgp86HafnRpfx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] smh article
On 2009-May-24 16:32:34 +1000, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed - the danger is that someone browsing through http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Young_women (not a great look for how wikimedia feels about young women) To be fair, there's also http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Young_men - though that doesn't include as many scantily clad young men. I'm not sure that the existence of a category of people's photographs suggests that they are sex objects or similar. (Though I agree that some of the young women aren't wearing a great deal). ends up somewhere like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Erotic (or more explicit!) If someone wants to find erotic or pornographic material in Wikipedia, they can just search for any number of words. and feels that maybe these images shouldn't be available in schools. Trying to draw a fixed line at what is or isn't allowed in schools is impossible. What's suitable for a Yr12 class may not be suitable for a Yr1 class. Likewise, some of the material on sexuality would probably make a suitable resource for a PD class (if a teacher was game enough). You could equally note that someone researching The Magic Pudding could wind up reading up on Norman Lindsay and his other artworks - some of which are less suited to young children. It's impossible to stop Wikipedia vandalism without completely changing the Wikipedia model. Stressing adult oversight is probably the best approach. -- Peter Jeremy pgpFw1GkSPLNt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
