[Wikimediaau-l] Commons on Picture Australia

2009-02-02 Thread Liam Wyatt
Dear All,

[cross post to commons-l and wikimediaaustralia-l]

Picture Australia is interested in adding Commons photos to their service
but has several technical issues they would like to resolve first. Can we
help?

Picture Australia is an archive aggregation service run by the National
Library of Australia and aggregates searches across many Australian
institutions (such as the various state libraries, universities, government
departments) and also Flickr. You can see the project at
http://www.pictureaustralia.org/index.html and you can see their other
contributors at
http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/participants/index.html

This is a quote from the email written to me from PA:
At the moment our main source of contemporary images is Flickr and we are
interested in investigating other sources of contemporary images.  There are
a few issues with the Wikimedia Commons that we foresee:
1- the metadata quality is highly variable.  With Flickr contributors are
able to provide a fair bit of additional metadata about their images.
Before  pulling images in from Wikipedia we'd need the data to adhere to
some basic standards.  (see
http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/metadata.html).
2- there are certainly a number of images that have been sourced from
Picture Australia or our contributors.  Pulling these in would create an
issue with duplicate images and would likely confuse users if they were
attempting to buy a copy.
3- Wikipedia doesn't have an OAI interface so we would need to look at how
to ingest the data.

I would add a 4th concern, and I'm not sure if this is a big problem or
easily fixed, is that most of the pictures on Commons are not relevant to
PA. Would we be able to provide a feed of only the relevant categories?

All the best,
- Liam Wyatt

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Commons on Picture Australia

2009-02-02 Thread Gnangarra
repost to get cross posting now I'm on both wmau list and commons list

2009/2/3 Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com


 1 -  Commons file information is actually more accurate with greater detail
 compared to flickr images we have a greater degree of scrutiny ensuring that
 the images are appropriate and freely licensed, also our scope isnt that of
 flickr and we seek more images of record/encyclopaedic relevance. I have
 already contacted PA on a number of occassion with errors in identifications
 and spelling on image they already have

 2 - All of our images are under a free license in accordance with both
 policies and Australian laws the image source is listed, we can filter out
 image from other sources by just creating another category call Picture
 Australia and setting up its scope of being self made Australian images. As
 PA sources include libraries they already have a number of duplicated
 images, many of which dont even have the same description.

 3 - There are already bots/scripts available that can identify recent
 additions, and there are some good OS writers so having something created to
 do the work shouldnt be a big issue its just a matter of finding someone
 willing. Of course this would be an open source program which PA could use
 else where in the future

 4. - a Picture Australia category, and the software written to aquire
 images from that category inparticular and from other categories in
 particular wouldnt be a problem

 2009/2/3 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com

 Dear All,

 [cross post to commons-l and wikimediaaustralia-l]

 Picture Australia is interested in adding Commons photos to their service
 but has several technical issues they would like to resolve first. Can we
 help?

 Picture Australia is an archive aggregation service run by the National
 Library of Australia and aggregates searches across many Australian
 institutions (such as the various state libraries, universities, government
 departments) and also Flickr. You can see the project at
 http://www.pictureaustralia.org/index.html and you can see their other
 contributors at
 http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/participants/index.html

 This is a quote from the email written to me from PA:
 At the moment our main source of contemporary images is Flickr and we are
 interested in investigating other sources of contemporary images.  There are
 a few issues with the Wikimedia Commons that we foresee:
 1- the metadata quality is highly variable.  With Flickr contributors are
 able to provide a fair bit of additional metadata about their images.
 Before  pulling images in from Wikipedia we'd need the data to adhere to
 some basic standards.  (see
 http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/metadata.html).
 2- there are certainly a number of images that have been sourced from
 Picture Australia or our contributors.  Pulling these in would create an
 issue with duplicate images and would likely confuse users if they were
 attempting to buy a copy.
 3- Wikipedia doesn't have an OAI interface so we would need to look at how
 to ingest the data.

 I would add a 4th concern, and I'm not sure if this is a big problem or
 easily fixed, is that most of the pictures on Commons are not relevant to
 PA. Would we be able to provide a feed of only the relevant categories?

 All the best,
 - Liam Wyatt

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 Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914
 Skype - Wittylama
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Commons on Picture Australia

2009-02-02 Thread K. Peachey
Wouldn't number three already be covered by the API system?

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