Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Announcement - publication with CCau
Well, I would suggest spelling participatory correctly (=p), but other than that, it sounds like a splendid idea; one that I'd be happy to lend a hand in. Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: Brianna Laugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: [personal] [Wikimediaau-l] Announcement - publication with CCau Hi, I mentioned this briefly in last week's minutes, but this week we finalised it all, so I will talk about it in a bit more detail. I am happy to say that we are going to work on a joint publication with Creative Commons Australia (CCau), to be launched at the Free as in Freedom miniconf I am organising at the Linux conference in late January. (http://freeasinfreedom.modernthings.org/) I still haven't figured out a good name for it (possibly Handbook for Partipatory Culture in Australia, but gosh that's long), but it will basically be a good companion to the miniconf, with brief intro/overviews to lots of themes that we are familiar with relating to openness and freedom - see the initial list here: http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Participatory_Culture_Primer And there will be some essential links for each topic, as well as information particular to the Australian context. Basically it will work like this: we supply all the content, they supply the layout and printing. I think it is an excellent plan that plays to the strengths of both groups. We should supply the content by the end of December or earlier. Of course it will be under a free license, probably CC-BY-SA. This is an idea I came up with when I was planning my miniconf and thinking about what themes to include. I thought writing a bit about each one would force me to learn about it properly, and then if I was going to do that, I may as well make a little booklet, and then I may as well make it a WMAU thing, and then I may as well see if CCau was interested in helping out.. :) Beyond the conference, I think it will be a useful document to really act as a primer for people who have not yet been exposed to these kinds of ideas, and really show the breadth and interconnectedness of them too. So I'm kind of thinking, in a worst case scenario I will write most of it myself, but I certainly hope that doesn't end up being the case, not because I would hate to do so but because it's more fun to work with other people and get their perspectives. Also, name suggestions are _extremely_ welcome. :) cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Announcement - publication with CCau
2008/11/19 Stephen Bain [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Brianna Laugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it will be under a free license, probably CC-BY-SA. Dual CC-BY-SA / GFDL would be nice, that would make it compatible with the Wikimedia projects (and our own wiki!). [I'm trying not to think about the licensing mess of transferring meta content to officialwiki, and then meta content (probably) goes to CC-BY-SA, but officialwiki doesn't because of the date cutoffs and blah blah... you see? Gawd...] Anyway dual licensing is of course a possibility, but I'm pretty sure as long as CC-BY-SA is in there it doesn't much matter what else is. :) Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Announcement - publication with CCau
I saw somewhere that Wikimedia is changing over to a CC-by-3.x license in the near future after some changes were made to make compatable with GDFL/GNU requirements On 19/11/2008, John Vandenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Brianna Laugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/19 Stephen Bain [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Brianna Laugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it will be under a free license, probably CC-BY-SA. Dual CC-BY-SA / GFDL would be nice, that would make it compatible with the Wikimedia projects (and our own wiki!). [I'm trying not to think about the licensing mess of transferring meta content to officialwiki, and then meta content (probably) goes to CC-BY-SA, but officialwiki doesn't because of the date cutoffs and blah blah... you see? Gawd...] Anyway dual licensing is of course a possibility, but I'm pretty sure as long as CC-BY-SA is in there it doesn't much matter what else is. :) The simple solution is to require that all members assign the copyright of all wiki-text to WM-AU, or all members give WM-AU the right to relicense it. Then by resolution of the committee, or an AGM, it can be relicensed any way we wish, without needing to seek permission from members who might be no longer available. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Announcement - publication with CCau
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 10:46 +1100, Liam Wyatt wrote: Brianna Wrote: Anyway dual licensing is of course a possibility, but I'm pretty sure as long as CC-BY-SA is in there it doesn't much matter what else is. :) Yes, this is my understanding of how the new licensing of GDFL will interact with CC-by-sa. So long as we license it as CC-by-sa then it will be compatible with Wikipedia. Dual licensing is no longer a necessity in order to provide 'sideways-compatability'. Are you talking about GFDL 1.3? kk -- Karl Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
