Re: [Wikimediach-l] Postal Adress created

2006-03-31 Thread Michael Bimmler
Ah yes, and what I wanted to say: Please do not put the adress on the
contact-pages until I have received confirmation of the post (together
with the first 20-francs-per-year-bill) that the adress is up and
running. Then, we can also use the adress for Switch Registry
(Manuel?)¨
Michael

On 3/31/06, Michael Bimmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 I'd like to notify you that I have created the Feste Vereinsadresse
 today 1 hour ago (Friday, 11.00) at a small post office in Zurich.
 There is one little problem: He told me that we cannot have 8000
 Zürich, as 8000 is not an official post code, but only used as
 placeholder for all other Zurich post codes (e.g. if you don't know
 the post code of the area/quartier of you friend, you can write 8000).
 He could also not give me 8001 (for reasons I didn't really
 understand, the post office was in the 8001-area), so we agreed on
 8008 as third-best solution (at least symmetric). He had to send the
 form now to the centrale in Berne, it will take about 1 week to be
 processed. The whole business was by the way quite funny:
 I went into the post office (Rämistrasse, quite small, but next to my
 school), and first talked to an elderly employee who had no idea, that
 this service existed. So she called her boss, a quite young, dynamic
 guy, very friendly, but didn't want to believe in the existence of
 Freie Vereinsadresse either. So we used his computer to go to the
 post-homepage and find the leaflet about the Vereinsadresse and he
 admitted that he had never heard of this before (and that it must be
 an extremely new feature). Then he went into his office and started
 looking for the form that was needed. He then came back with a
 2-pages, small-print form and we spent nice 20 minutes filling out
 this form. (We both laughed about it's bureaucracy and both wondered,
 why a couple of the fields were there. Then he remarked that he needed
 a copy of the resolution (I printed it already out at home) and, as
 the Post-customer service had not told me, a copy of the bylaws. So we
 again went into internet and he printed out the bylaws full-length.
 Then the only remaining were about 3 signatures + my ID card, + his
 signature + the postal stamp and we were finally finished.
 So he clipped everything together and now it must be on its way to
 Berne... (However when I look at the lot of fine-print legal stuff on
 the sheet, I would not wonder, if we have forgotten one little
 information, but we both did our best...

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[Wikimediach-l] CH Bylaws

2006-03-31 Thread Delphine Ménard
Hi, I have added a comment on the talk page of the English version of
the bylaws.
http://ch.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bylaws/En

We are aware of the fact that you are waiting for us to say something,
and I have asked the Chapters committee to come up with a
recommandation for the board at the end of this week, beginning of
next week at the latest.

Sorry for the inertia. Seems to be a wiki thing.

Cheers,

Delphine
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Re: [Wikimediach-l] [Wikimediafr-l] Travailler avec les autres chapters (was: Demande des statistique s de Médiamétrie)

2006-03-31 Thread Michael Bimmler
On 3/31/06, Delphine Ménard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/31/06, Frederic Schutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Je conçois difficilement pourquoi la représentation aux Linux Days à
Genève devrait se faire par le biais de Wikimédia France. As-tu
contacté les Suisses pour ce faire ? Wikimedia CH est en cours de
création et la Suissse dispose d'une communauté quadrilingue
particulièrement active.
 
  Quadrilingue, oui, mais à ma connaissance, je suis pour l'instant le
  seul francophone qui suive de près ce qui se passe à l'intérieur de
  Wikimedia CH... J'aurais été très intéressé à participer aux Linux Days
  pour parler de Wikipedia, mais je serai à l'étranger ce jour-là.
 
  François, si tu veux en parler dans la liste Wikimedia CH, c'est une
  bonne idée, mais vu que je ne sais pas si on trouvera beaucoup de
  volontaires locaux pour l'instant, n'hésite pas si tu veux faire cette
  présentation.

 La seule chose qui me chagrinait, ce n'était pas que ce soit François
 qui ai pris l'initiative, et bien sûr il devrait le faire s'il le
 souhaite. Mais je ne vois pas pourquoi cette initiative devrait être
 prise au nom de Wikimedia France. Même sans chapter encore installé
 en Suisse, il me semble logique que cette initiative soit soutenue par
 les suisses plutôt que par les français.

Ben, au moment nous nous concentrons à l'organisation du Wikipedia
Day à Zurich et je ne suis pas sûr si nous serions capables d'agir
comme Wikimedia CH à un autre event. Mais nous pourrions
certainement supporter/patroner etc. quelque chose, si quelqu'un prend
l'initiative. (Si vous voulez vraiment discusser ça avec les gens de
Wikimedia CH, ça serait peut-être mieux de le faire par WikimediaCH-l
car je suis assez sûr qu'il n y a pas beaucoup de Suisses (allemands
et romands) qui lisent ici.
 Delphine
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Re: [Wikimediach-l] Copyright of the swiss administration

2006-03-31 Thread dake
Thanks for your answer. I had actually sent the mail to the webmaster. I 
will drop a mail to J. Glauser.

You are right about the laws and the protocols. I add there is something 
interesting about swiss law compared to french/belgian law concerning 
the buildings as it seems (my non-professional interpretation) that 
making a picture of a recent building, statue, etc. is allowed while in 
France/Belgium, it is not (see the Atomium story).

Well, some advices about swiss law in general regarding the copyright 
would be nice. There was a question today on the french wikipedia about 
the flags of cantons, communes and districts. On :fr, we have tons of 
references about the french law, nearly nothing about swiss law, I'm 
trying to collect some references :)

Regards,
Dake
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Dake

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Re: [Wikimediach-l] Copyright of the swiss administration

2006-03-31 Thread Frederic Schutz
On 3/31/06, dake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Obligatory disclaimer first: IANAL, but I have done a bit of research
on this topic.

 You are right about the laws and the protocols. I add there is something
 interesting about swiss law compared to french/belgian law concerning
 the buildings as it seems (my non-professional interpretation) that
 making a picture of a recent building, statue, etc. is allowed while in
 France/Belgium, it is not (see the Atomium story).

Clearly allowed in Switzerland if the statue if permanently fixed in a
public place (of course, this is trivially the case for buildings);
see article 27 of the copyright law (231.1) on admin.ch.

 Well, some advices about swiss law in general regarding the copyright
 would be nice. There was a question today on the french wikipedia about
 the flags of cantons, communes and districts. On :fr, we have tons of
 references about the french law, nearly nothing about swiss law, I'm
 trying to collect some references :)

I have tons of references about the Swiss law. Creating an article on
this topic in en: is on my todo list. Give me a reference of the
relevant page on fr: (and maybe some precise questions) and I'll try
to add pointers to what I know as well.

 Well, some advices about swiss law in general regarding the copyright
 would be nice. There was a question today on the french wikipedia about\
 the flags of cantons, communes and districts.

Where was it ?

From the copyright point of view, most of the flags are in the public
domain (except _maybe_ for a few flags made for new municipalities
after mergers). Otherwise, the laws under number 232.2 protect their
use (basically: don't use them in bad faith).

Frederic

PS. Content de voir un autre francophone sur la  liste...
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