Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation to join Chapter as Member by 23 June 2011 to participate in EC elections during AGM

2011-06-15 Thread Gautam John
On 15 June 2011 12:02, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does this means that existing 5 members will continue for ever unless they
 themselves decides to step down. This is a major concern for community
 since  all the existing/resigned members are self appointed.

No no, Shiju! The term is two years!

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation to join Chapter as Member by 23 June 2011 to participate in EC elections during AGM

2011-06-15 Thread Naveen Francis
Hi Shiju,

This was discussed earlier during MoA drafting.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA#Article_VII_-_Composition_of_EC.2C_.234

There was no support for that discussion at that time. Current board members
decided like that.

Most of the chapters has only one year term
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/bylaws/historic#Existing_chapters
.


On 15 June 2011 12:03, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 On 15 June 2011 12:02, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

  Does this means that existing 5 members will continue for ever unless
 they
  themselves decides to step down. This is a major concern for community
  since  all the existing/resigned members are self appointed.

 No no, Shiju! The term is two years!

 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
 http://social.prathambooks.org/

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wiki India Conference

2011-06-15 Thread Naveen Francis
Hi all,

Is there any plan for a DVD of featured articles in all indic languages and
articles by WP:IND (english wiki) ?
Releasing DVD will help to increase quality of content in the wiki.

Shiju/Santhosh,

How viable is to release a DVD in 60 days in all languages ?



On 12 June 2011 17:35, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. Sure!

 Let's have a small core Fund Raising  team that discusses the options
 for fund raisingand we post updates to all others once we agree on
 something.

 Would like  to know:
 1. Is there a budget already?
 2. Will this be fully or partially funded by anyone.
 3. Are we raising funds for the Conference expenses or will we be
 raising funds for the Foundation. I have no views/preferences...just
 like to know so that when we approach possible sponsors we communicate
 correctly.

 The Starting Point should be:
 For The Conf Organising Committee to outline the schedule/programme
 and expected scale.
 I assume it is a 3 day Event

 Once we have that as a base document all other teams can get to work
 around that pale blue print.

 The Fund Raising Team will analyse all the fund raising opportunities
 around the programme and work from there.

 Harriet








 On 6/11/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Harriet,
 
  Thanks for the very positive note from you. Looking forward to meeting
 you
  sometime. Thanks for the sage advice regarding funding. Looks like you
 have
  mentally become an organiser. We invite you to join the Fund-raising
  committee as it appears to be of keen interest to you.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Ashwin Baindur
  --
 
 
  On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Count me in to support the Conference in Mumbai and hold the yet to be
  developed bidding processes for next year...there's no time to
  lose...Espcecially since we have dates from Jimmy Wales.
 
  Also FUND RAISING for the event should not be restricted to a
  particular group/city but all incoming funds should be directed to one
  person who heads the finance committee who has a Conference
  Accountthat is transparent.
 
  Fund raising, promoting the event and passing the word around should
  be everyone's effort.
 
  Warm regards
 
  Harriet from Mangalore!
 
 
  --
 
 
 
 
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  www.outofindia.net
 
  www.womenofindia.net
 
  INDIA: 91-99011 66276
 
  USA: 1-301-649-2240
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-15 Thread Naveen Francis
Now Gautam,

What do you suggest ? not use that pdf ?
Discussion is not reaching anywhere

On 15 June 2011 11:51, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

  In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems
  completely invalid.

 Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright notice does not,
 per se, mean there is no copyright. Copyright is presumed to be
 granted the moment it has been created.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-15 Thread Gautam John
Hi Naveen:

What do you guys mean when you say you will create maps based on this?
Do you create your own maps with this as the base map?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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On 15 June 2011 12:20, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now Gautam,

 What do you suggest ? not use that pdf ?
 Discussion is not reaching anywhere

 On 15 June 2011 11:51, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:

 On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

  In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems
  completely invalid.

 Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright notice does not,
 per se, mean there is no copyright. Copyright is presumed to be
 granted the moment it has been created.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation to join Chapter as Member by 23 June 2011 to participate in EC elections during AGM

2011-06-15 Thread Srikeit
Hi

Could the EC please send a list of the members registered with the
chapter?.

Alternatively, some confirmation of membership (individually sent) would be
great.

Regards

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Wikimedians,


 The Chapter has a statutory requirement that we have our first Annual
 General Body meeting before the end of September 2011. We plan on
 holding this, in Bangalore, on 24 Sep 2011. (Note: We had earlier
 mentioned the date as 17 Sep 2011 but this was changed based on
 unforeseen changes in the schedules of EC members and to give more
 time for members to join in.)

 Filling vacancies in the EC will be one major item on the agenda of
 AGM. That said, only people who have become members at least three
 months prior to the date of the AGM are eligible to stand and to vote.
 Please remember that there is allowance for those members not in
 Bangalore to vote as well. What we will do in the next 2 weeks is to
 begin a draft nomination process and send it for your feedback and
 inputs.

 Hence we urge you to  join Wikimedia Chapter by 23 June 2011, if you
 have not yet applied for membership. Please spread this message with
 your fellow wikimedians and encourage them to apply for membership
 immediately.  The Individual membership 
 formhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WikimediaChapterMembershipFormIndividual.pdf
 along
 with either Cheque/DD payable at par at Bangalore should be received
 by 23 June 2011 at Chapter's office.

 If you are using online transfer, please send a scanned copy of your
 membership form before 23 June 2011 to members...@wikimedia.in along
 with your online payment details and ensure that your physical
 membership form reaches chapter
 office before 30 June 2011.

 We are really looking forward to an active and strong interest in the
 Chapter from the Community.

 Sincerely,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation to join Chapter as Member by 23 June 2011 to participate in EC elections during AGM

2011-06-15 Thread Gautam John
On 15 June 2011 12:38, Srikeit srik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alternatively, some confirmation of membership (individually sent) would be
 great.

This will go out by this weekend, for sure.

Thank you.

Best,

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Technical Help Needed

2011-06-15 Thread Gautam John
Hey:

I was wondering is anyone here could offer some help to the Chapter to
set up a system to process membership forms etc.

Essentially, what we need is:

1. A front end for the applicant enter form details.
2. A way to update these details with payment information, etc. as and
when received.
2. A database to store that.
3. A way to generate a:
3.1 Receipt
3.2 Membership Number
3.3 Membership Card
3.4 Send an email when it is posted
3.5 A PDF of the form so entered for the applicant to sign and send.
4. Add the member to a mailing list
5. Send reminder email as and when necessary
6. It would be nice to have:
6.1 A way for members to update and edit their details as and when it changes
7. Open source software will be preferred.


Thank you.

Best,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Technical Help Needed

2011-06-15 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:
 Hey:

 I was wondering is anyone here could offer some help to the Chapter to
 set up a system to process membership forms etc.

Seems like CiviCRM is best suited for your needs in long term . You
may need some customizations as well for 3.2- 3.5
http://civicrm.org/

Anivar

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Technical Help Needed

2011-06-15 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Anivar Aravind
anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:
 Hey:

 I was wondering is anyone here could offer some help to the Chapter to
 set up a system to process membership forms etc.

 Seems like CiviCRM is best suited for your needs in long term . You
 may need some customizations as well for 3.2- 3.5
 http://civicrm.org/

Using Hasgeek Job Board may be helpful for you to get someone , after
defining the technology need well

http://jobs.hasgeek.in/

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Technical Help Needed

2011-06-15 Thread Gautam John
On 15 June 2011 14:21, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems like CiviCRM is best suited for your needs in long term . You
 may need some customizations as well for 3.2- 3.5
 http://civicrm.org/
 Using Hasgeek Job Board may be helpful for you to get someone , after
 defining the technology need well

Thanks, Anivar. Sadly, we don't really have the resources to hire
anyone just yet so was hoping there might be people who could help us
to do it their free time.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:

 On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

  In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems
  completely invalid.

 Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright notice does not,
 per se, mean there is no copyright. Copyright is presumed to be
 granted the moment it has been created.


Of course, and I am completely in agreement with the sentiments of the
commons group, who evidently do not want to see Wikipedia get caught up in a
series of fruitless litigations across the world.

I was drawing the attention of the list to the fact that the government
people, who claim copyright for everything the government publishes, despite
the fact that some of it is commons, are also ether slipshod in the manner
in which they claim the copyright, or being forthright about the fact that
some of it, possibly the data itself, is not intended to be copyrighted.

Now, the disclaimer wording brought to our attention by Abhilash also
mentions that not everything in the site is copyright, one must look at
individual listings within in order to see if copyright is claimed therein.

Naveen would do well to check that the information he wants to scrape in
order to create his maps is specifically copyrighted, as otherwise it is
clearly free-to-use, and the copyright disclaimer is very specific about
this freedom.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wiki India Conference

2011-06-15 Thread Ashwin Baindur
That is such a good idea. First of all we would need to see how many
featured articles exist in each language and if they would fit in a DVD.
OpenZIM would probably be the way to go. Do we have a list of sysops or
pointsmen for each language Wikipedia? I think chapter was assembling this
detail.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Is there any plan for a DVD of featured articles in all indic languages and
 articles by WP:IND (english wiki) ?
 Releasing DVD will help to increase quality of content in the wiki.

 Shiju/Santhosh,

 How viable is to release a DVD in 60 days in all languages ?



 On 12 June 2011 17:35, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. Sure!

 Let's have a small core Fund Raising  team that discusses the options
 for fund raisingand we post updates to all others once we agree on
 something.

 Would like  to know:
 1. Is there a budget already?
 2. Will this be fully or partially funded by anyone.
 3. Are we raising funds for the Conference expenses or will we be
 raising funds for the Foundation. I have no views/preferences...just
 like to know so that when we approach possible sponsors we communicate
 correctly.

 The Starting Point should be:
 For The Conf Organising Committee to outline the schedule/programme
 and expected scale.
 I assume it is a 3 day Event

 Once we have that as a base document all other teams can get to work
 around that pale blue print.

 The Fund Raising Team will analyse all the fund raising opportunities
 around the programme and work from there.

 Harriet








 On 6/11/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Harriet,
 
  Thanks for the very positive note from you. Looking forward to meeting
 you
  sometime. Thanks for the sage advice regarding funding. Looks like you
 have
  mentally become an organiser. We invite you to join the Fund-raising
  committee as it appears to be of keen interest to you.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Ashwin Baindur
  --
 
 
  On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Count me in to support the Conference in Mumbai and hold the yet to be
  developed bidding processes for next year...there's no time to
  lose...Espcecially since we have dates from Jimmy Wales.
 
  Also FUND RAISING for the event should not be restricted to a
  particular group/city but all incoming funds should be directed to one
  person who heads the finance committee who has a Conference
  Accountthat is transparent.
 
  Fund raising, promoting the event and passing the word around should
  be everyone's effort.
 
  Warm regards
 
  Harriet from Mangalore!
 
 
  --
 
 
 
 
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  www.outofindia.net
 
  www.womenofindia.net
 
  INDIA: 91-99011 66276
 
  USA: 1-301-649-2240
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wiki India Conference

2011-06-15 Thread wheredevelsdare

Maybe Nikhil Sheth (Schools project) can help - he was one of those who was 
behind the offline release I think.

Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:36:10 +0530
From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wiki 
India Conference

That is such a good idea. First of all we would need to see how many featured 
articles exist in each language and if they would fit in a DVD. OpenZIM would 
probably be the way to go. Do we have a list of sysops or pointsmen for each 
language Wikipedia? I think chapter was assembling this detail.
Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

Is there any plan for a DVD of featured articles in all indic languages and 
articles by WP:IND (english wiki) ?
Releasing DVD will help to increase quality of content in the wiki.

Shiju/Santhosh,




How viable is to release a DVD in 60 days in all languages ?



On 12 June 2011 17:35, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com wrote:



Thanks. Sure!



Let's have a small core Fund Raising  team that discusses the options

for fund raisingand we post updates to all others once we agree on

something.



Would like  to know:

1. Is there a budget already?

2. Will this be fully or partially funded by anyone.

3. Are we raising funds for the Conference expenses or will we be

raising funds for the Foundation. I have no views/preferences...just

like to know so that when we approach possible sponsors we communicate

correctly.



The Starting Point should be:

For The Conf Organising Committee to outline the schedule/programme

and expected scale.

I assume it is a 3 day Event



Once we have that as a base document all other teams can get to work

around that pale blue print.



The Fund Raising Team will analyse all the fund raising opportunities

around the programme and work from there.



Harriet

















On 6/11/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Harriet,



 Thanks for the very positive note from you. Looking forward to meeting you

 sometime. Thanks for the sage advice regarding funding. Looks like you have

 mentally become an organiser. We invite you to join the Fund-raising

 committee as it appears to be of keen interest to you.



 Warm regards,



 Ashwin Baindur

 --





 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com wrote:



 Count me in to support the Conference in Mumbai and hold the yet to be

 developed bidding processes for next year...there's no time to

 lose...Espcecially since we have dates from Jimmy Wales.



 Also FUND RAISING for the event should not be restricted to a

 particular group/city but all incoming funds should be directed to one

 person who heads the finance committee who has a Conference

 Accountthat is transparent.



 Fund raising, promoting the event and passing the word around should

 be everyone's effort.



 Warm regards



 Harriet from Mangalore!





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 www.outofindia.net



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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fundraising works have started.

2011-06-15 Thread Surya Prakash
Hi friends, I noticed a mail with the idea of including our INDIAN RUPEE
(INR) in Wikimedia's upcoming fundraiser event. I glad to tell that this
year's fund raising initiatives have started today.

Pats (Patricia) will be the major part of this year's fundraising programme.
I glad to tell that she has lived  worked in India. So, people at India
chapter can contact her for this issue.

I got mail from meta-wiki translator's group about this. Please see
meta-wiki for more details.

Thank you.

*$U®¥∩*

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wikisource CD

2011-06-15 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Malayalam Wikisource CD is probably the first of kind in the Wikimedia
world.

Read more on the making of this unique project on Shiju and Santhosh's blog
posts
http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/06/14/creating-malayalam-wikisource-cd/
http://thottingal.in/blog/2011/06/11/malayalam-wikisource-offline-version/


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wiki India Conference

2011-06-15 Thread Shiju Alex

 How viable is to release a DVD in 60 days in all languages ?


Not a good idea unless few language communities (at least 6-7) are ready for
the selection, proof reading, verifying image licenses, and so on. Selection
and creation of offline content is not at all a small task. Much effort is
required for it. Also from each language community the support of at least
10 active contributors are required. As of now not many Indic language
communities are ready for it. Also the exclusion of selected articles from
inactive wikis is not a good idea when we are trying for public outreach.

Another possible and easiest option would be  releasing a Commons CD/DVD
that contains copyleft images related to India. Malayalam wikimedians
already done a test release of Commons images along with the Wikisource CD.
The release of such a CD/DVD can be done with less effort.

Shiju



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Is there any plan for a DVD of featured articles in all indic languages and
 articles by WP:IND (english wiki) ?
 Releasing DVD will help to increase quality of content in the wiki.

 Shiju/Santhosh,

 How viable is to release a DVD in 60 days in all languages ?




 On 12 June 2011 17:35, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. Sure!

 Let's have a small core Fund Raising  team that discusses the options
 for fund raisingand we post updates to all others once we agree on
 something.

 Would like  to know:
 1. Is there a budget already?
 2. Will this be fully or partially funded by anyone.
 3. Are we raising funds for the Conference expenses or will we be
 raising funds for the Foundation. I have no views/preferences...just
 like to know so that when we approach possible sponsors we communicate
 correctly.

 The Starting Point should be:
 For The Conf Organising Committee to outline the schedule/programme
 and expected scale.
 I assume it is a 3 day Event

 Once we have that as a base document all other teams can get to work
 around that pale blue print.

 The Fund Raising Team will analyse all the fund raising opportunities
 around the programme and work from there.

 Harriet








 On 6/11/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Harriet,
 
  Thanks for the very positive note from you. Looking forward to meeting
 you
  sometime. Thanks for the sage advice regarding funding. Looks like you
 have
  mentally become an organiser. We invite you to join the Fund-raising
  committee as it appears to be of keen interest to you.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Ashwin Baindur
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  On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Count me in to support the Conference in Mumbai and hold the yet to be
  developed bidding processes for next year...there's no time to
  lose...Espcecially since we have dates from Jimmy Wales.
 
  Also FUND RAISING for the event should not be restricted to a
  particular group/city but all incoming funds should be directed to one
  person who heads the finance committee who has a Conference
  Accountthat is transparent.
 
  Fund raising, promoting the event and passing the word around should
  be everyone's effort.
 
  Warm regards
 
  Harriet from Mangalore!
 
 
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  Harriet Vidyasagar
 
  www.outofindia.net
 
  www.womenofindia.net
 
  INDIA: 91-99011 66276
 
  USA: 1-301-649-2240
 
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