Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia to be free on mobiles in Africa, Middle East (SciDev.net)

2012-04-11 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
I agree wholeheartedly with Ashwin. India Programs need not focus on
Outreach as long as the Chapter is there. In India, we see mobile
operators giving free Facebook and Twitter access but not to Wiki.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Mediawiki-i18n] IRC office hours with the Localisation team 2012-04-18 16:30 UTC

2012-04-11 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Forwarding for the benefit of those who are not in mediawiki-i18n list.

Topics that will be discussed.
Language support; internationalisation of MediaWiki, language support
teams, User Interaction and User Interface design for language tools

See you there!

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Regards
Srikanth.L

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From: Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) smazel...@wikimedia.org
Date: Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 18:35
Subject: [Mediawiki-i18n] IRC office hours with the Localisation team
2012-04-18 16:30 UTC
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Hi everyone,

I just wanted to give advance notice about IRC office hours with the
Localization team [1] at the Wikimedia Foundation.

Date: 2012-04-18 (every third Wednesday of the month from now on)
Time: 16.30 UTC
Venue: #wikimedia-office

As usual, more logistical info and time conversion links are available
on Meta.[2] For a taste of what the localization team has been up to,
I highly recommend the blog posts we are have written since out last
office hours in February.[3]

Thanks, and we'll talk to you later next week!

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Siebrand Mazeland
Product Manager Localisation
Wikimedia Foundation

1. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localisation_team
2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
3.
http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/features/internationalization-and-localization/

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia to be free on mobiles in Africa, Middle East (SciDev.net)

2012-04-11 Thread Barry Newstead
Hi all,

On mobile: We are working on this. Deals take time to consummate and are
confidential until they are finalized with partners, but there is work
going on in India and we hope to have some good stuff soon.

@Ashwin: At one level I agree, but another way to think about this is as
follows...It is useful to differentiate between things an editor can do
and what an editor actually chooses to do.  There may be thing that an
editor can do, but chooses not to do that is still worth doing and India
Programs can fill that gap.  On Outreach, India Programs is a) helping to
cross-pollinate learning across the community and take more of an
analytical approach to assessing Outreach than had been done before Nitika
started to really focus on this; and b) bring added capacity to help us all
reach more groups (look at the volume of outreach that has happened since
Nitika started pushing on this theme - not pure coincidence).[1]

@Srikanth: I don't think we should be ready to say there is no need for
group X to focus on activity area Y, since group Z exists. Existence does
not equate with satisfying all of the needs in India. India Programs will
stop supporting outreach the moment the chapter or local communities feel
they are fully able to met all of the demand for learning about the
Wikimedia projects from groups across India.  Even today, the India Program
team seeks ways to support community members or the chapter to do the
outreach and does outreach sessions when a) they are asked to provide
support; or b) where there aren't community members ready to take the lead.

General point: IMO the debates which crop up regularly on this list over
who should do what is tangential to the goals we all share of
strengthening our community and realizing our mission in India. The
capacity represented by Existing Community + Chapter + India Programs is
nowhere near the need required to reach the full potential of the movement
in India, so what is there to fight over?  The more appropriate question
IMO to ask is: How best to work together in a way that we utilize the
differing capabilities to maximum effective, given we're a long way from
reaching a point where we are finished with our mission? It would also be
cool if we celebrate what people actual do and debate the efficacy based
on the results (since all of our work is experimental in nature and
unproven at this time) rather than debate who should do the work.

My 2 paise. ;)

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Outreach_Programs

Kind regards,
Barry

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree wholeheartedly with Ashwin. India Programs need not focus on
 Outreach as long as the Chapter is there. In India, we see mobile
 operators giving free Facebook and Twitter access but not to Wiki.

 --
 Regards,
 Srikanth Ramakrishnan.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Odia Wikipedia Outreach Programs in Odisha (Mar-Apr)

2012-04-11 Thread Hisham
Congratulations, Odia Wikimedians, for an extraordinarily productive weekend.  

You all should all be really proud of:

a) The sheer level of activity over 3 days: 3 outreach sessions and 1 meet-up 
is awe-inspiring!  
b) The fact that even relatively new folks in the community are standing up and 
taking initiatives, such as MKar conducting (what I think) is his first 
outreach session!  MKar, loved reading your mail about how you explained to 
folks that only the most interested need remain in the outreach session after 
the initial introductory bit 
(http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-April/007897.html). 
  It came from the heart, and it was a delight to read!
c) Looking at all aspects of the various activities - from planning out the 
venues to getting a beautiful Odia version of the prezi presentation for your 
outreach sessions 
(http://prezi.com/ljk3w0m44w6x/copy-of-introduction-to-wikipedia/)  to talking 
in detail about the next steps
d) Showing wonderful initiative like approaching work colleagues for an 
outreach session at work.  We should try that in other places too.
e) Working collaboratively as a community on all the various activities - which 
you have done so magnificently across this weekend!  You are a warm, friendly 
community - and that comes from each of you as individuals!
f) Having a constructive meetup which was focussed on specific issues and from 
emerged clear plans and way forward!  I am sure this will encourage more 
meetups and more attendance in these meetups!
g) The press coverage that has been shared on this link is great, but I also 
have been seeing the social media that you are using (facebook, etc.) which is 
also going to be very useful for a language that has a decent level of activity 
on the Internet.
h) The medical outreach will give you great benefits for you Medicine Project.  
I know there are exams for the students right now, but let's approach them 
after that and see how they can join your community and projects.
i) You've put in huge physical effort and time - and I know some guys have 
travelled for hours to get to the various places!

All the very best for everything going forward.  Also, as always, please reach 
out if you need any help from India Program.  Do reach out to Subha or Shiju 
for anything.

Warmest Regards,

hisham

On Apr 9, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Mrutyunjaya Kar wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Apologies for the delayed report.
 
 
 Odia Wikimedia Community had a very eventful, exciting and constructive
 weekend last week!  i want to share with you a report of 3 (yes THREE!)
 outreach sessions and the community meet up held between March 30 and April
 1. Odia Wikipedia Editing Workshop - Anugul - March 30
 *Summary*
 An Editing Odia Wikipedia workshop was conducted on 30th March at the
 National Institute of Computer Education, Nalconagar, Anugul. It was
 attended by 14 newbies. Odia WikipedianMrutyunjay
 Karhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/or:MKar conducted
 the workshop by introducing Odia Wikipedia to the newbies. (In fact,
 Mrutyunjay single-handedly organized the session and most of the audience
 were his work colleagues who he had told about Odia Wikipedia.)  He talked
 briefly about Wikipedia, five pillars and policies. Then there was a
 demonstration session on how to edit Odia Wikipedia. One of the attendees
 was called up to create his own account and then Mrutyunjaya demonstrated
 basics of editing by interacting with the audience.  Once we had shown
 everyone this, we invited those who were interested to stay for a more
 detailed and hands-on editing to stay, and told everyone else they were
 free to leave.  A few of the audience left the lab, and the remaining 9
 created their user accounts. 4 of the new wikipedians have made small but
 significant edits.
 *Challenges  Solutions*
 
 
   - An issue that was faced was that newbies initially had problems typing
   in Odia.  We requested the newbies to check the *Typing
 Help*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/or:Help:Typing page
   to understand the key combination. Mrutyunjaya explained how they can
   improve by gradual exercise, using the Show Preview option and that
   making corrections is allowed on Wikipedia.
 
 
 *Next Steps*
 
   - Mrutyunjaya will personally interact with the new editors, either
   1-on-1 or in groups to give them more support on editing and to address
   doubts
   - Mrutyunjaya could conduct more physical meetups in Anugul where help
   more newbies with editing
 
 *Lessons*
 
 
   - Mrutyunjaya's initiative to reach out to his colleagues and friends to
   introduce them to Odia Wikipedia and to encourage them to learn about
   editing by attending the session is really interesting because it increases
   the chances of like-minded folks attending outreach sessions.
   - When we do outreach sessions, it will be nice to share a small note
   about the session (with some useful links) beforehand - so that interested
   participants can read up and be