Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Social Media Pilot

2012-06-02 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Noopur, thank you for posting the report.  I have a few questions for the
 India Programs team which I have listed under, would appreciate if you
 could respond:

 1.  How do you plan on scaling the Social Media pilot beyond your own
 networks?
 2.  Do you believe you can effectively create a mechanism for recruitment
 of editors through this project in a manner that justifies the cost and
 time involved?  I am asking this because I noticed that you make serious
 attempts at trying to convince users to edit Wikipedia pages.
 3.  How many hours per week do you spend on the Wikipedia support group?


To Hisham and the rest of the India Program team:  I am still waiting for
answers to these questions.  They were asked with seriousness, and they
deserve your serious consideration.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Social Media Pilot

2012-06-02 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
Even these answers would be interesting for me. Hope we get them soon.
On 2 Jun 2012 11:04, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Noopur, thank you for posting the report.  I have a few questions for the
 India Programs team which I have listed under, would appreciate if you
 could respond:

 1.  How do you plan on scaling the Social Media pilot beyond your own
 networks?
 2.  Do you believe you can effectively create a mechanism for recruitment
 of editors through this project in a manner that justifies the cost and
 time involved?  I am asking this because I noticed that you make serious
 attempts at trying to convince users to edit Wikipedia pages.
 3.  How many hours per week do you spend on the Wikipedia support group?


 To Hisham and the rest of the India Program team:  I am still waiting for
 answers to these questions.  They were asked with seriousness, and they
 deserve your serious consideration.


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in India

2012-06-02 Thread Yuvi Panda
Hello everyone! Has there been any discussion about participating in
Wiki Loves Monuments this year?

I'm sitting in berlin working on some of the code behind it, and
looking at the test data and seeing 'us', 'de', 'nl' but no 'in' makes
me feel sad. Would the Indian community be participating this year?
I'd gladly volunteer to do whatever I can!

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http://yuvi.in/blog

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Vandalism in Wikipedia

2012-06-02 Thread cbrao
Recently I came across the problem of vandalism in one of the articles to
which I am a contributor. Dr.Narisetty Innaiah, 75 years old is a famous
rationalist and atheist from India and currently living in USA. He is
author of several books on M.N.Roy’s philosophy in Telugu.He is also
translator of the books  ‘A Letter to Christian Nation’ and ‘God Delusions’
written by Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins respectively into Telugu.
Mr.Innaiah presented these translations to the original authors at a
function held in USA. A video of the event can be seen at the following
link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGTN1Mj7hV8blend=8lr=1ob=5

More details about Innaiah can be found at

http://innaiahn.tripod.com/hr.html

Now let us have a look into the Wikipedia article about Mr Innaiah at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innaiah_Narisetti

In the current version of the article, a pervert contributor
Mr.Steeldrumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Steeldrumaction=editredlink=1distorted
the facts in the article and presents Mr Innaiah not only as a
staunch believer of Christianity  but also a canvasser of Christianism. I
have corrected these blunders on 28th April 2012 but
Steeldrumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Steeldrumaction=editredlink=1reverted
back to his old dirty practice of distortion and vandalism of the
article about Innaiah on 2nd May 2012.

Rationalists from USA besides Mr Innaiah brought to my notice about this
heinous act of 
Mr.Steeldrumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Steeldrumaction=editredlink=1,
who is doing this repeatedly. These vicious  writings of Mr.Steeldrum
ahttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Steeldrumaction=editredlink=1re
bringing bad reputation to Wikipedia.There is a need to put an urgent stop
to these acts by
Mr.Steeldrumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Steeldrumaction=editredlink=1.


I request the seniors in the group to do the needful in the matter before
Steeldrumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Steeldrumaction=editredlink=1spreads
his tentacles
in furthering his malicious acts.

-Cbrao
http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/stalktoy/?target=Cbrao
http://deeptidhaara.blogspot.com/
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in India

2012-06-02 Thread Karthik Nadar
Hi YuviPanda,

I'm sure the India community is too doing this year, and I guess Naveen was
very much involved for this.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone! Has there been any discussion about participating in
 Wiki Loves Monuments this year?

 I'm sitting in berlin working on some of the code behind it, and
 looking at the test data and seeing 'us', 'de', 'nl' but no 'in' makes
 me feel sad. Would the Indian community be participating this year?
 I'd gladly volunteer to do whatever I can!

 --
 Yuvi Panda T
 http://yuvi.in/blog

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam - is your language supported well?

2012-06-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello,

A few months ago the Localization team of the Wikimedia Foundation
enabled the Narayam extension in some projects in Indic languages and
also in the Incubator.

We know that in projects in some languages it is actively used. Some
projects, for example Telugu, Kannada, Marathi and Bengali, also asked
for fixes, which we are happy to make. We know less about other
projects, however.

Can you tell us, please:

* If Narayam is already used in your language: Is it good? Does it
have all the characters? Is it easy to use? Is it documented well?
Does it help people to create more content?

* If Narayam is not used in your language: Why not? Do you think that
it is not needed? Or is it needed, but the current layout is buggy?

Thank you,

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http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam - is your language supported well?

2012-06-02 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni 
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Hello,

 A few months ago the Localization team of the Wikimedia Foundation
 enabled the Narayam extension in some projects in Indic languages and
 also in the Incubator.

 We know that in projects in some languages it is actively used. Some
 projects, for example Telugu, Kannada, Marathi and Bengali, also asked
 for fixes.


In some languages Narayam is enabled only in Wikipedia. Other Wikiprojects
continue to use old javascript solution / don't have any typing tool at
all. Can you please make sure Narayam is available on *all* existing
wikiprojects of your language, so that it could give consistent experience
to contributors. It just a bug away[1]

[1]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimediacomponent=Extension%20setup

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Regards
Srikanth.L
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Social Media Pilot

2012-06-02 Thread Noopur Raval
Dear all,

Please find the responses inline


On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even these answers would be interesting for me. Hope we get them soon.
 On 2 Jun 2012 11:04, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Noopur, thank you for posting the report.  I have a few questions for
 the India Programs team which I have listed under, would appreciate if you
 could respond:

 1.  How do you plan on scaling the Social Media pilot beyond your own
 networks?



 The Social Media Pilot does not run on our personal networks. However,
 given the interstitial nature of social networks, we might have mutual
 friends with people. Otherwise, most of these participants are people from
 previous outreach sessions and users who had 'liked' our various pages and
 activities but did not know what to do after that.



 Coming to the scaling bit, even outside the current network, I welcome you
 and all other Wikipedians to help us spread the word and even add a few
 friends of yours who might be interested in learning about Wikipedia. The
 next steps are to reach out to interest groups on social networks, such as
 - and this is purely by way of example - groups that are interested in
 railways or modern Indian art, etc and see if the profile of members of
 these groups is such that there might be potential new editors and explore
 if we can generate curiosity in these members to join our group.



 The work that has been done on Odia and already done (at least building
 the group, if not the more methodical approach to encouraging new editor)
 on Kannada point to the potential of interest groups. Kannada - for
 instance - already has 2000+ members. In both these cases, they drew
 members from people who were active or interested in language interest
 social groups (in these cases, the interest is the language itself.)



 Additionally, social media is being used in various ways by communities
 across India including the Assamese, Bengali, Tamil and Malayalam and we
 want to observe them, how they reach out to people, what works and what
 doesn't before we make more interventions.





 2.  Do you believe you can effectively create a mechanism for recruitment
 of editors through this project in a manner that justifies the cost and
 time involved?  I am asking this because I noticed that you make serious
 attempts at trying to convince users to edit Wikipedia pages.




 There is a fine difference between convincing people to edit Wikipedia and
 going that extra mile to help them out. In my humble opinion if these are
 users who have previously liked various pages of ours and activities, the
 former is already achieved. However, if they lost interest or simply saw no
 new activity happening on the page, it is useful to tell them we are doing
 something new. Unlike physical outreach, we are able to resolve internet
 issues, barriers of consumption, familiarity and individual engagement.
 Remember how Anirudh and I answered Commons queries for the Ahmedabad photo
 walk? I am happy to say that of those we actually ended up meeting 2
 (correct me if I am mistaken) long term editors.



 The major effort I put into social media was analysing the way the various
 Facebook pages were functioning, what were the challenges  opportunities,
 how we could construct a set of guidelines and walking community members
 through these guidelines - which I detailed out as part of a very specific
 nearly 20 point plan here (
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Social_Media#Process
 )



 3.  How many hours per week do you spend on the Wikipedia support group?



 As is with the pervasive nature of social media networks and the stuff we
 do on them, there is no way you can tell the actual time spent. I also
 answers queries of people on Saturday and Sunday just because I want to
 help and that doesn't depend on my office timings. Similarly, as explained
 earlier, mentors come in and go out depending on their schedules. Going
 further though, we'd love to scale it to a point where only mentors can
 handle the group and actually make meaningful relationships with new
 editors. I invite you as well to join in as a mentor and would love to have
 a Skype call with you.



 Just to give you a sense of what all is happening on Communications
 simultaneously - I have worked on 
 Wikipatrikahttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05/Community_News,
 supporting the Malayalam conference, the Assamese 10th anniversary, the
 Kannada 10th anniversary, the Nepali 9th anniversary as well as stories
 that we have published for the Tamil media 
 contesthttps://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/04/20/postcard-from-the-tamil-community/,
 the Gujarati 
 Wikisourcehttp://blog.wikimedia.in/2012/04/04/realizing-the-dreams-of-communities-3-years-6-users-1000-articles-counting-the-source-of-gujarati-wikisource/(and
  Indic