Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Do not donate to Wikipedia

2012-07-09 Thread John Vandenberg 
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Béria Lima  wrote:
> John: Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.

Hi Beria,

Sorry and thank you for clarifying. I was confused by the fact that
the participant is going for 10 days, which is more than needed to
make a presentation & workshop.  IMO, the LARSS event still doesnt
appear to fit within the requirement of no-other-scholarship-program.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Support#Events_with_other_scholarship_programs

Again IMO, there isn't enough information in the grant request.

But at least this grant requires a report at the end, so hopefully
we'll read about how effective it was afterwards.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Do not donate to Wikipedia

2012-07-09 Thread Asaf Bartov 
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Béria Lima  wrote:

> Asaf, GAC isn't for Participation grants, I don't know why you throwing
> that in the people who disagree.


Yes, Béria, and I have acknowledged this not once but *twice* in the
response that first mentioned the GAC.  I was pointing out that the GAC is
an opportunity to affect (other) grantmaking of the Foundation, and that
we're accepting candidates right now.  It seemed a good opportunity to
recruit volunteers who evidently care about effective use of movement
funds, wouldn't you say?

I certainly did not imply, and I think no careful reader of my comment
could have been led to believe, that the GAC is involved with the
Participation Support program.

Re consulting with WMIN, as I said on the talk page, it was an oversight,
but the request is now approved, commitments have been made vis-a-vis the
host, and we will not reverse the decision at this point.  I have certainly
been in the wrong here, and am taking steps to ensure it doesn't happen
again (specifically, I've created a checklist to go through before future
approvals, like the (more complex) checklist we have already had in place
for Wikimedia Grants).

   Asaf



> And you said yourself you needed to consult with WMIN, they are telling a
> big "NO", why you don't refuse the grant?
> _
> *Béria Lima*
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
> construir esse sonho. *
>
>
> On 9 July 2012 03:00, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>
>> Hello, everyone.
>>
>> I have responded on the grant talk page.  Let's keep this conversation in
>> one place, there:
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation_talk:AbhiSuryawanshi/NASA_LARSS_program#Chapter_consultation.3F
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>Asaf
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Béria Lima  wrote:
>>
>>> *John:* Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.
>>>
>>> *Gautan*: The "Grants" team in this case is Asaf only. The GAC didn't
>>> review participation grants.
>>>
>>> *Ravishankar*: If you want to make your concern visible, post on
>>> Wikimedia mailing list 
>>> _
>>> *Béria Lima*
>>>
>>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
>>> construir esse sonho. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 July 2012 11:51, John Vandenberg  wrote:
>>>
 I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
 participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
 is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
 organisation.

 The grant request page is quite confusing.

 On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John 
 wrote:
 > On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar  wrote:
 >
 >> "I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I
 continue
 >> to see any such grant."
 >
 > Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
 > read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
 > and did fund the grant.
 >
 > Why are you holding out such a threat?
 >
 > Thank you.
 >
 > Best,
 >
 > Gautam
 > 
 > http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-del] 4 community meet-ups; 40 participants; 15 new editors; 10 articles; ONE WEEKEND!

2012-07-09 Thread Sheel Sindhu Manohar 
This is really amazing  Happy to see people of Delhi working on so many
languages :)

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I wanted to share an update of a fantastic weekend in Delhi.
> Saturday morning, 8 community members (3 existing and 5 new editors) on
> Hindi Wikipedia met up at Crafts Museum to meet each other and collaborate
> on Crafts GLAM project.  The meeting started with a round of introductions,
> including short talks from the existing editors of how they got introduced
> to Wikipedia and what keeps them motivated to edit and what kind of
> articles they edit.  There's a separate blog post about the Crafts Museum
> GLAM project that's coming out shortly - but a quick summary of the meet
> up.  4 of the 5 new editors edited.  They improved the articles on a type
> of sari, a kind of metal handicraft, a class of textile and added content
> to the Crafts museum page on Hindi Wikipedia!  Pictures are uploaded 
> here.
>  User: अनिरुद्ध, User:Siddhartha_Ghai and User:Roboture inspired and guided
> the new editors.  User:Anilbhardwajnoida, a Museum staff member, was
> specially congratulated for his really good contributions (after starting
> to edit only a couple of months ago.)
> Saturday afternoon, 17 community members (2 existing and 15 new editors)
> on English Wikipedia met up at the British Council.  This was the meeting
> of the British Council Wikipedia Club members and this was a follow-up
> session to the initial Wikipedia introduction sessions conducted a little
> while earlier.  10 of the new editors edited - including creating a new
> article of a locality in Delhi and Indian chewing gum brand, improving the
> articles of a famous Delhi landmark and a Delhi school as well as building
> on the articles of an Indian architectural element and a kind of darshan
> dating back to Akbar's time!  They also added content on a couple of local
> food items and a couple of pictures on Commons! User:Theo10011 &
> User:Hisham helped new editors on a whole host of queries they had.
>
> Sunday morning, 5 community members (2 existing and 3 new editors) on Odia
> Wikipedia met up at Hauz Khas.  A WikiWorkship was conducted.  A journalist
> who attended covered it in the The Political and Business Daily.
>  Additional WikiWorkshops and press coverage were planned in Delhi.
>  Pictures are uploaded 
> here.
> A new editor created an article about a traditional Odia food.
>  User:Rashmirparida and User:Psubhashish conducted the session.
>
> Sunday afternoon, 14 community members (2 existing and 12 new editors) on
> Malayalam Wikipedia met up at Hauz Khas.  A WikiWorkshop was conducted for
> the participants who included 3 women, 1 school student  and 1 retired
> person.  They also discussed a potential partnership with the Malayalam
> Mission in New Delhi, as well as follow-up outreach session.  This meet-up
> was covered in the leading Malayalam newspapers, Malayalam Manorama and
> Mathrubhumi.  Pictures are uploaded 
> here.
> User:Subeesh Balan and User:Shijualex conducted the workshop.
>
> I hope there are more meet-ups in more languages in Delhi and other cities.
>
> --
>
> *Subha*
>
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> in the sum of all knowledge.  Help us make it a reality!*
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Announcing 17th Wikipedia Mumbai Community Meetup.

2012-07-09 Thread nikita belavate 
Hii All,

As discussed earlier, we have planned a meetup on the coming Saturday i.e
on 14th in Bandra,Mumbai at the Flarepath's office. We are planning to have
an Editing session too this time.

The following is the Wiki page for the meetup.The details of venue,
address, time etc. are mentioned there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/Mumbai17

and the Facebook event page link:
https://www.facebook.com/events/383347728392090/

Would be great to have suggestions with regards to any tips about your
experience of conducting editing sessions in the past, so that we can be
more careful.

Warm Regards,
Nikita Belavate.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages

2012-07-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
I'm not too sure. I assume that if one language has a keyboard then
all of them should have. But seeing that this is Google, I have a
feeling this is the same Indic Input that they have for Desktops.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Experimenting with Virtual Outreach

2012-07-09 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan 
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Nitika  wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I was thinking of experimenting conducting online outreach.  I want to try
> out if we can do an effective outreach event using a google+ (video)
> hangout.  Virtual outreach has a number of advantages:
>
> * No investment of time/effort/cost in travel
> * Personal attention to each participant (because of individual
> video/screenshare facilities.)
> * No complications of no laptops available at the venue or a limit on
> creating user names from a single IP address during the event
> * Lower dependency on institutions/college fests to organize an event for
> us.
> * Not limited by physical presence. Sitting in Kanyakumari,  one can
> conduct outreach for interested folks in Kashmir!
>
> This is just a trial to test if online outreach is effective, doable and
> manageable. This could be one of the ways forward!  (Potentially, we could
> have more community members doing more events with a more diverse audience.)
>

Hello all,

Adding to the list of advantages, the entire session gets automatically
recorded and is available on Youtube. (So 1 good session will reach much
more people than participants) I recently participated on one such hangout
and happened to talk about Tamil Wiki projects, Translatewiki etc(though as
stop gap arrangement) and can be watched here[1]. It would be great if this
mode of outreach can be tried again. IIRC the first one did not go all well
due to connectivity issues, but we can always try again!

[1] 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=1uwmGhQFgH4

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Do not donate to Wikipedia

2012-07-09 Thread Béria Lima 
Asaf, GAC isn't for Participation grants, I don't know why you throwing
that in the people who disagree. And you said yourself you needed to
consult with WMIN, they are telling a big "NO", why you don't refuse the
grant?
_
*Béria Lima*

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. *


On 9 July 2012 03:00, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Hello, everyone.
>
> I have responded on the grant talk page.  Let's keep this conversation in
> one place, there:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation_talk:AbhiSuryawanshi/NASA_LARSS_program#Chapter_consultation.3F
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>Asaf
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Béria Lima  wrote:
>
>> *John:* Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.
>>
>> *Gautan*: The "Grants" team in this case is Asaf only. The GAC didn't
>> review participation grants.
>>
>> *Ravishankar*: If you want to make your concern visible, post on
>> Wikimedia mailing list 
>> _
>> *Béria Lima*
>>
>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
>> construir esse sonho. *
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 July 2012 11:51, John Vandenberg  wrote:
>>
>>> I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
>>> participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
>>> is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
>>> organisation.
>>>
>>> The grant request page is quite confusing.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John 
>>> wrote:
>>> > On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I
>>> continue
>>> >> to see any such grant."
>>> >
>>> > Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
>>> > read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
>>> > and did fund the grant.
>>> >
>>> > Why are you holding out such a threat?
>>> >
>>> > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Gautam
>>> > 
>>> > http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
>>> >
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[Wikimediaindia-l] 4 community meet-ups; 40 participants; 15 new editors; 10 articles; ONE WEEKEND!

2012-07-09 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi 
Hi All,

I wanted to share an update of a fantastic weekend in Delhi.
Saturday morning, 8 community members (3 existing and 5 new editors) on
Hindi Wikipedia met up at Crafts Museum to meet each other and collaborate
on Crafts GLAM project.  The meeting started with a round of introductions,
including short talks from the existing editors of how they got introduced
to Wikipedia and what keeps them motivated to edit and what kind of
articles they edit.  There's a separate blog post about the Crafts Museum
GLAM project that's coming out shortly - but a quick summary of the meet
up.  4 of the 5 new editors edited.  They improved the articles on a type
of sari, a kind of metal handicraft, a class of textile and added content
to the Crafts museum page on Hindi Wikipedia!  Pictures are uploaded
here.
 User: अनिरुद्ध, User:Siddhartha_Ghai and User:Roboture inspired and guided
the new editors.  User:Anilbhardwajnoida, a Museum staff member, was
specially congratulated for his really good contributions (after starting
to edit only a couple of months ago.)
Saturday afternoon, 17 community members (2 existing and 15 new editors) on
English Wikipedia met up at the British Council.  This was the meeting of
the British Council Wikipedia Club members and this was a follow-up session
to the initial Wikipedia introduction sessions conducted a little while
earlier.  10 of the new editors edited - including creating a new article
of a locality in Delhi and Indian chewing gum brand, improving the articles
of a famous Delhi landmark and a Delhi school as well as building on the
articles of an Indian architectural element and a kind of darshan dating
back to Akbar's time!  They also added content on a couple of local food
items and a couple of pictures on Commons! User:Theo10011 & User:Hisham
helped new editors on a whole host of queries they had.

Sunday morning, 5 community members (2 existing and 3 new editors) on Odia
Wikipedia met up at Hauz Khas.  A WikiWorkship was conducted.  A journalist
who attended covered it in the The Political and Business Daily.
 Additional WikiWorkshops and press coverage were planned in Delhi.
 Pictures are uploaded
here.
A new editor created an article about a traditional Odia food.
 User:Rashmirparida and User:Psubhashish conducted the session.

Sunday afternoon, 14 community members (2 existing and 12 new editors) on
Malayalam Wikipedia met up at Hauz Khas.  A WikiWorkshop was conducted for
the participants who included 3 women, 1 school student  and 1 retired
person.  They also discussed a potential partnership with the Malayalam
Mission in New Delhi, as well as follow-up outreach session.  This meet-up
was covered in the leading Malayalam newspapers, Malayalam Manorama and
Mathrubhumi.  Pictures are uploaded
here.
User:Subeesh Balan and User:Shijualex conducted the workshop.

I hope there are more meet-ups in more languages in Delhi and other cities.

-- 

*Subha*

*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Do not donate to Wikipedia

2012-07-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
Ravi, do note that the same person requested a Grant for a Pune club
where he wanted money for food expenses as well.
On an unrelated note, there is a NASA-ISRO-BU Space Camp being held in
Coimbatore.

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