Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimania tour of Rahul Desmukh

[Yohann Thomas]

(sorry for the delay, just following the 24hrs email rule)

Hi Bodhi

I would request you to please read my email completely. If you want, I can
give you an excerpt of my email, which should answer your questions.

//In a similar way, our President Mr Rahul Deshmukh had earlier attended
the Berlin Wikimedia Conference representing Wikimedia India & then
subsequently was *invited* to Wikimania, especially the Chairperson's
meeting at Wikimania. You will find the agenda in the link below.

https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_Chairpersons_meeting_July_20,_2018

With this invitation , Rahul Deshmukh had requested CIS-A2K to fund its
trip & they accepted his proposal. //


Regards,
Yohann Thomas
Secretary
Wikimedia India


On Fri 3 Aug, 2018, 18:33 Bodhisattwa Mandal, 
wrote:

> Hi Yohann,
>
> Thanks for your mail.
>
> If you check the link of chairperson's meeting, you can see, that many
> participants were not president of any affiliates, they attended the
> meeting on behalf of the president. For example, Nahid Sultan attended the
> meeting on behalf of Wikipedia Bangladesh (WMBD) as the General Secretary
> of WMBD. It is not mandatory to join the meeting as a President of any
> affiliates, usually, if one representative of an affiliate is present in
> that conference, he can represent the affiliate.
>
> In Wikimania 2018, 2 EC members, Viswa Prabha and Krishna Chaitanya
> Velaga, were present and one of them could have attended the meeting on
> behalf of WMIN. Can you please explain, why WMIN decided to spend a huge
> amount of donation money to send WMIN president to attend a meeting, where
> his presence is not at all mandatory. Does WMIN consider these two members
> unfit to attend such meeting?
>
> Waiting for your reply,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
> On 3 Aug 2018 6:05 pm, "Yohann Thomas"  wrote:
>
> Dear Bodhi & other community members
>
> First of all, I would apologise for the delay in reply. Wikimedia India is
> run by 7 board members(as you are already aware) & any discussion on any
> topic, requires inputs from all of them.. Since all are unpaid volunteers &
> have their own professional lives apart from Wikimedia India, there was a
> delay in drafting a reply.
>
> As it is a well known fact, Wikimedia India is a volunteer run
> organisation. There are board members, who discharge their duties towards
> the chapter, as well as serve their regional communities (as well as user
> groups) in their volunteer roles.
>
> Another well known fact is that, Wikimedia India still isn't financially
> independent & is still dependent on external funding which is fraught with
> regulatory hurdles, including obstacles related to FCRA.
>
> Having said that, many community members juggle their different roles in
> community, affiliates, committees & in personal & professional roles to
> attend different conferences run by the Wikimedia & its volunteers around
> the world.
> In a similar way, our President Mr Rahul Deshmukh had earlier attended the
> Berlin Wikimedia Conference representing Wikimedia India & then
> subsequently was invited to Wikimania, especially the Chairperson's meeting
> at Wikimania. You will find the agenda in the link below.
>
>
> https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_Chairpersons_meeting_July_20,_2018
>
> With this invitation , Rahul Deshmukh had requested CIS-A2K to fund its
> trip & they accepted his proposal.
>
> Going a little off topic & concluding my email, I would really want to
> appreciate & acknowledge the work done by Abhinav on & offline in relation
> to the chapter. Eventhough Abhinav, prematurely left the chapter before his
> term expired, he still continues to support the chapter on different
> issues, inspite of us still battling with all our regulatory hurdles. I
> wish there were more such vocal well wishers, when the chapter is going
> through a difficult time.
>
> Regards,
> Yohann Thomas
> Secretary
> Wikimedia India
>
> 
> On Fri 27 Jul, 2018, 12:32 Bodhisattwa Mandal, <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> WMIN chapter president Rahul Deshmukh attended Wikimania 2018 in Cape
>> Town without being selected for any type of scholarship. My question is why
>> was he sent to the conference depriving other community members from India
>> who were in the waiting list.
>>
>> He spoke in the informal chairpersons' meetup for few minutes. The
>> meeting doesn't require president of the organization's presence, and
>> already there were 2 EC member of WMIN present, who could have attended the
>> meeting.
>>
>> To me, this is utter misuse of power and abuse of donation money.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India community mailing list admins

[Asaf Bartov]

(If there's any list the community would like to revive or add moderators
to, but encounters lost passwords or unresponsive admins, please document
that on Meta as well and draw my attention to it, after reaching some
agreement.  I can ask WMF Operations team members to regain control of the
list and add the moderators.)

A.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:19 PM Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Recently, there was a major subscription attack to all the mailing lists.
> Email ids from aol and yahoo were used to subscribe in bulk.  Probably,
> during the corrective measures, this kind of problem might have occurred.
>
> In case of any posting issues, raising them to the list admins usually
> solves them quickly.
>
> Regards
> -Sudhanwa
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <
> kcvel...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> The Indian community mailing list is arguably the most used mailing list
>> by the Indian Wikimedia community. However, recently some users have
>> reported problems with subscription and sending messages as
>> non-subscribers. All these issues are need to be dealt by the list admins
>> at the earliest possible. However, the issues remain unsolved.
>>
>> So I think more active community members must be added as mailing list
>> admins so that these issues can be addressed in a timely manner.
>>
>> List info at:
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/Wikimediaindia-l
>>
>> Looking forward for comments from other members.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Krishna Chaitanya V.
>> User:KCVelaga
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] CIS-A2K : Transparency and Other Issues

[Abhinav srivastava]

Thank You Tito for your mail.

I would request you to address the issues within 10 days from now. This is
just a request.

Also, one of your colleagues and also my friend informed me that he wanted
to reply but his e-mail is being moderated or blacklisted. I have taken
this issue with the mailing list admins and the admins have looked into the
issue clarifying the said collegeue wasn’t moderated or blacklisted. In
case, any issue still arises, please ping me and I will do my best to
settle this.

Thank You for writing back.

Abhinav

On Sunday, August 5, 2018, Tito Dutta  wrote:

> Hello Abhinav,
> On behalf of the team, I confirm that we have received your questions.
> Thanks for these questions.
> We have a hectic schedule right now because of few things such as CIS (the
> main institution's) strategy meet, staff transition, grant report, and some
> other works.
>
> Transparency and accountability  are very important topics. If things are
> not clear for a couple of events, we must work on it.
>
> Some other member or I'll get back with answers in a few days.
>
> (I am cc-ing Sunil Abraham, ED, of the institution, in this email)
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
> me over email or phone call.
>
>
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 13:47, Abhinav srivastava 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Friends From CIS-A2K,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am bringing up a discussion based on few of the concerns expressed on
>> the other mail thread. I would like to acknowledge on record, the past few
>> years CIS-A2K has reached out to communities (besides Focussed Language
>> Area) much more effectively. I may be the first person to say this publicly
>> but I am sure many more would echo my views here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now what concerns me and something CIS-A2K already knows, when the
>> community has started acknowledging your work much more, CIS-A2K has been
>> acting as the necessary intervention in times of crisis why transparency is
>> being not paid its due.
>>
>>
>>
>> I list some of my questions which everyone is already aware of and would
>> request a reply. I would request you to not break the bullet and reply each
>> of them separately. Of course! If you are comfortable.
>>
>>
>>
>> ==Conference==
>>
>>
>>
>> (a)Did CIS-A2K organize a conference/meetup in Bengaluru this summer?
>>
>> (b)   How were the delegates selected and which communities were invited?
>>
>> (c)For all those communities who were invited (based on your
>> response to part b) was an official notification sent via village pump,
>> mailing list, reaching out to User Group representatives?
>>
>> (d)   Is there a legitimate reason to be non-transparent in the process?
>>
>> (e)When a former CIS-A2K staff informed you about not maintaining
>> transparency why was still no heed paid to it (if part d of the question is
>> NO)?
>>
>> (f) Can reports, learning patterns etc be shared with the community?
>>
>> (g)How much funds were involved?
>>
>> (h)   What were the responsibilities of different CIS-A2K staff during
>> the workshop?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==Reports==
>>
>> (a)What has been stopping CIS-A2K to share their monthly reports on
>> the mailing list and their Report Section of Wikimedia Meta?
>>
>> (b)   Can we hear about the reports, shortly?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> @Satdeep: I could not find any Meta page but I do find a page which is
>> put under-construction and this mentions you. Were you a part of this? If
>> Yes, I am not able to understand, the entire argument you had posted
>> yesterday about reporting guidelines and transparency.
>>
>> Only If, You Were A Party to This.
>>
>> To Everyone, I understand I may be playing the devil’s role here. Some of
>> my close aides have already advised me to stay back since I am damaging my
>> personal reputation.
>>
>> My argument is simple if my personal image promotes inclusiveness and
>> transparency. I will be happy to remain a soldier fighting.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Abhinav
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Special:Block with partial block function, Second set of designs up for comment

[Tito Dutta]

This partial block thing might be interesting. In case you have not seen it
on the wikimedia-l mailing list, you can check it below.

Thanks
Tito Dutta
Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
me over email or phone call.


-- Forwarded message -
From: Sydney Poore 
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 20:55
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Special:Block with partial block function, Second
set of designs up for comment
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 


Hello all,

The Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team is continuing to talk
with the Wikimedia community about adding a partial blocks function to
Special:Block.1

No functionality will change for sitewide blocks. All existing blocks will
remain in place and the ability to block users from the entire wiki will
remain as-is.

In addition to sitewide blocks, a partial block would be the ability to
block a user from:

   1.

   Editing one or more specific page(s)
   2.

   Editing all pages within one or more namespace(s)
   3.

   Uploading files
   4.

   Emailing other users


Alex Hollender, a User Experience designer at Wikimedia Foundation, has a
second set of wireframe designs of Special:Block with partial block
included. You can take a look at the wireframes and leave us your feedback
on Meta.2

Please spread the word and forward this email to others (especially
administrators) who might be interested in helping re-design
Special:Block's layout. In particular, feedback is needed about the best
ways to create a log that will work well with the existing administrator
workflows.

1.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_health_initiative/Per_user_page,_namespace,_category,_and_upload_blocking

2.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_health_initiative/Per-user_page,_namespace,_and_upload_blocking#Second_designs

For the Anti-Harassment Tools team,

Sydney Poore
-- 
Sydney Poore
Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation
Trust and Safety team;
Anti-harassment tools team
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] CIS-A2K : Transparency and Other Issues

[Tito Dutta]

Hello Abhinav,
On behalf of the team, I confirm that we have received your questions.
Thanks for these questions.
We have a hectic schedule right now because of few things such as CIS (the
main institution's) strategy meet, staff transition, grant report, and some
other works.

Transparency and accountability  are very important topics. If things are
not clear for a couple of events, we must work on it.

Some other member or I'll get back with answers in a few days.

(I am cc-ing Sunil Abraham, ED, of the institution, in this email)

Thanks
Tito Dutta
Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
me over email or phone call.


On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 13:47, Abhinav srivastava 
wrote:

> Dear Friends From CIS-A2K,
>
>
>
> I am bringing up a discussion based on few of the concerns expressed on
> the other mail thread. I would like to acknowledge on record, the past few
> years CIS-A2K has reached out to communities (besides Focussed Language
> Area) much more effectively. I may be the first person to say this publicly
> but I am sure many more would echo my views here.
>
>
>
> Now what concerns me and something CIS-A2K already knows, when the
> community has started acknowledging your work much more, CIS-A2K has been
> acting as the necessary intervention in times of crisis why transparency is
> being not paid its due.
>
>
>
> I list some of my questions which everyone is already aware of and would
> request a reply. I would request you to not break the bullet and reply each
> of them separately. Of course! If you are comfortable.
>
>
>
> ==Conference==
>
>
>
> (a)Did CIS-A2K organize a conference/meetup in Bengaluru this summer?
>
> (b)   How were the delegates selected and which communities were invited?
>
> (c)For all those communities who were invited (based on your response
> to part b) was an official notification sent via village pump, mailing
> list, reaching out to User Group representatives?
>
> (d)   Is there a legitimate reason to be non-transparent in the process?
>
> (e)When a former CIS-A2K staff informed you about not maintaining
> transparency why was still no heed paid to it (if part d of the question is
> NO)?
>
> (f) Can reports, learning patterns etc be shared with the community?
>
> (g)How much funds were involved?
>
> (h)   What were the responsibilities of different CIS-A2K staff during
> the workshop?
>
>
>
>
>
> ==Reports==
>
> (a)What has been stopping CIS-A2K to share their monthly reports on
> the mailing list and their Report Section of Wikimedia Meta?
>
> (b)   Can we hear about the reports, shortly?
>
>
>
>
>
> @Satdeep: I could not find any Meta page but I do find a page which is put
> under-construction and this mentions you. Were you a part of this? If Yes,
> I am not able to understand, the entire argument you had posted yesterday
> about reporting guidelines and transparency.
>
> Only If, You Were A Party to This.
>
> To Everyone, I understand I may be playing the devil’s role here. Some of
> my close aides have already advised me to stay back since I am damaging my
> personal reputation.
>
> My argument is simple if my personal image promotes inclusiveness and
> transparency. I will be happy to remain a soldier fighting.
>
>
>
>  Abhinav
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