Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [తెవికీ] Fwd: Updates about Wikimedia Foundation Community brand and marketing coordinator visit to India
Hi, I have some concerns regarding this whole process which, I think, need to be addressed as soon as possible. As far as I have understood, Samir is coming to India to get feedback from the Indian affiliates and communities about the re-branding proposal and report it back to WMF. Re-branding is a very debatable proposal which will definitely affect, in a controversial and unclear way, the future of almost all emerging communities, affiliates and sister projects. So, my questions are, 1) Why was information about Samir's trip to India, not declared to the communities well ahead of time so that the communities and affiliates could express their voices and concerns directly with preparation? 2) Who decided that visiting only Punjabi, Hindi and Bangalore communities is sufficient enough to provide the feedback of all Indian communities? Why were not other communities and affiliates included in the process? What criteria these three communities met so that they can represent the voices from all over the country and why not other communities consulted about this? Why is Samir staying in Patiala, Delhi and Bangalore for extra days for local sightseeing and not utilizing the days to communicate with other communities and who planned for this kind of schedule? How will it be ensured to provide ample opportunity for community members to express their opinions? Online session is not a good option as many don't have the necessary infrastructure to do so. There is a feeling in the community that re-branding is already a made decision by the WMF and this kind of non-transparency further endorses that theory. Hoping to get positive responses. Regards, Manoj Kulkarni On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:14 PM Dr. Manavpreet Kaur < dr.manavpreetk...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Gopala > > I am sorry but these are working days plus we are being informed at the > last minute where even if we submit our inability or interest to join, > there are very little chances of the submission being considered or any > rescheduling. Before discussing these agenda points with the foundation > members, the community needs to discuss them within the group so that we > all have a basic understanding of what we need to achieve from this > meeting. There are people who are located in different regions of Punjab > and might need some time to plan their visit too. Also, there are people > who are not on the mailing list. This is a very important meeting and like > many other wikimedians, I wish to be a part of it too but because of > prior commitments, I won't be able to attend on 18th April. > We have been involved with the movement for years, contributing online and > planning outreach activities, such meetings are really important for all of > us taking initiatives to take the movement forward. > I agree with everyone and I believe we should have had an online meeting > first and the communities should have been informed a few weeks before the > event. > > Regards, > Manavpreet Kaur > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:53 PM Suyash Dwivedi > wrote: > >> Hello >> 16 April 2019 for Hindi Wikimedians ?, sorry I can not come or >> participate in such a short notice. I suggest you to inform atleast a few >> weeks before for such kind of important meetings. >> >> Regards, >> Suyash Dwivedi >> (U:Suyash.dwivedi) >> Hundi Wikimedians User Group (Flag Bearer) >> sent from mobile, please consider any typos >> >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 6:23 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < >> kcvel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This message was originally Telugu Wikimedia mailing list on the >>> branding community consultation discussion, by Manoj Kulkarni. I am looping >>> in the Indian mailing list, where this discussion was originally going on. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 5:49 PM manoj kulkarni < >>> kulkarnimanoj1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, I have some concerns regarding this whole process which, I think, need to be addressed as soon as possible. As far as I have understood, Samir is coming to India to get feedback from the Indian affiliates and communities about the re-branding proposal and report it back to WMF. Re-branding is a very debatable proposal which will definitely affect, in a controversial and unclear way, the future of almost all emerging communities, affiliates and sister projects. So, my questions are, 1) Why was information about Samir's trip to India, not declared to the communities well ahead of time so that the communities and affiliates could express their voices and concerns directly with preparation? 2) Who decided that visiting only Punjabi, Hindi and Bangalore communities is sufficient enough to provide the feedback of all Indian communities? Why were not other communities and affiliates included in the process? What criteria these three communities met so that they can represent the voices from all
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [తెవికీ]Fwd: Updates about Wikimedia Foundation Community brand and marketing coordinator visit to India
Thanks Krishna for forwarding the mail to main thread in Indian mailing list. My mails are not reached at Indian mailing list, although I have successfully subscribe the to the list. I am again cc to Indian mailing list. we should discuss your tread also https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2019-April/014000.html Regards, Manoj Kulkarni On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 6:23 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga wrote: > This message was originally Telugu Wikimedia mailing list on the branding > community consultation discussion, by Manoj Kulkarni. I am looping in the > Indian mailing list, where this discussion was originally going on. > > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 5:49 PM manoj kulkarni < > kulkarnimanoj1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have some concerns regarding this whole process which, I think, need to > > be addressed as soon as possible. > > > > As far as I have understood, Samir is coming to India to get feedback > from > > the Indian affiliates and communities about the re-branding proposal and > > report it back to WMF. Re-branding is a very debatable proposal which > will > > definitely affect, in a controversial and unclear way, the future of > almost > > all emerging communities, affiliates and sister projects. > > > > So, my questions are, > > 1) Why was information about Samir's trip to India, not declared to the > > communities well ahead of time so that the communities and affiliates > could > > express their voices and concerns directly with preparation? > > 2) Who decided that visiting only Punjabi, Hindi and Bangalore > communities > > is sufficient enough to provide the feedback of all Indian communities? > Why > > were not other communities and affiliates included in the process? What > > criteria these three communities met so that they can represent the > voices > > from all over the country and why not other communities consulted about > > this? > > Why is Samir staying in Patiala, Delhi and Bangalore for extra days for > > local sightseeing and not utilizing the days to communicate with other > > communities and who planned for this kind of schedule? > > How will it be ensured to provide ample opportunity for community > members > > to express their opinions? Online session is not a good option as many > > don't have the necessary infrastructure to do so. > > > > There is a feeling in the community that re-branding is already a made > > decision by the WMF and this kind of non-transparency further endorses > that > > theory. > > > > Hoping to get positive responses. > > > > Regards, > > Manoj Kulkarni > > ___ > > WikiTe-L mailing list > > wikit...@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikite-l > > > ___ > WikiTe-L mailing list > wikit...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikite-l > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [తెవికీ] Fwd: Updates about Wikimedia Foundation Community brand and marketing coordinator visit to India
Hi Gopala I am sorry but these are working days plus we are being informed at the last minute where even if we submit our inability or interest to join, there are very little chances of the submission being considered or any rescheduling. Before discussing these agenda points with the foundation members, the community needs to discuss them within the group so that we all have a basic understanding of what we need to achieve from this meeting. There are people who are located in different regions of Punjab and might need some time to plan their visit too. Also, there are people who are not on the mailing list. This is a very important meeting and like many other wikimedians, I wish to be a part of it too but because of prior commitments, I won't be able to attend on 18th April. We have been involved with the movement for years, contributing online and planning outreach activities, such meetings are really important for all of us taking initiatives to take the movement forward. I agree with everyone and I believe we should have had an online meeting first and the communities should have been informed a few weeks before the event. Regards, Manavpreet Kaur On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:53 PM Suyash Dwivedi wrote: > Hello > 16 April 2019 for Hindi Wikimedians ?, sorry I can not come or participate > in such a short notice. I suggest you to inform atleast a few weeks before > for such kind of important meetings. > > Regards, > Suyash Dwivedi > (U:Suyash.dwivedi) > Hundi Wikimedians User Group (Flag Bearer) > sent from mobile, please consider any typos > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 6:23 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga > wrote: > >> This message was originally Telugu Wikimedia mailing list on the branding >> community consultation discussion, by Manoj Kulkarni. I am looping in the >> Indian mailing list, where this discussion was originally going on. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 5:49 PM manoj kulkarni < >> kulkarnimanoj1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have some concerns regarding this whole process which, I think, need to >>> be addressed as soon as possible. >>> >>> As far as I have understood, Samir is coming to India to get feedback >>> from >>> the Indian affiliates and communities about the re-branding proposal and >>> report it back to WMF. Re-branding is a very debatable proposal which >>> will >>> definitely affect, in a controversial and unclear way, the future of >>> almost >>> all emerging communities, affiliates and sister projects. >>> >>> So, my questions are, >>> 1) Why was information about Samir's trip to India, not declared to the >>> communities well ahead of time so that the communities and affiliates >>> could >>> express their voices and concerns directly with preparation? >>> 2) Who decided that visiting only Punjabi, Hindi and Bangalore >>> communities >>> is sufficient enough to provide the feedback of all Indian communities? >>> Why >>> were not other communities and affiliates included in the process? What >>> criteria these three communities met so that they can represent the >>> voices >>> from all over the country and why not other communities consulted about >>> this? >>> Why is Samir staying in Patiala, Delhi and Bangalore for extra days for >>> local sightseeing and not utilizing the days to communicate with other >>> communities and who planned for this kind of schedule? >>> How will it be ensured to provide ample opportunity for community >>> members >>> to express their opinions? Online session is not a good option as many >>> don't have the necessary infrastructure to do so. >>> >>> There is a feeling in the community that re-branding is already a made >>> decision by the WMF and this kind of non-transparency further endorses >>> that >>> theory. >>> >>> Hoping to get positive responses. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Manoj Kulkarni >>> ___ >>> WikiTe-L mailing list >>> wikit...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikite-l >>> >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [తెవికీ] Fwd: Updates about Wikimedia Foundation Community brand and marketing coordinator visit to India
Hello 16 April 2019 for Hindi Wikimedians ?, sorry I can not come or participate in such a short notice. I suggest you to inform atleast a few weeks before for such kind of important meetings. Regards, Suyash Dwivedi (U:Suyash.dwivedi) Hundi Wikimedians User Group (Flag Bearer) sent from mobile, please consider any typos On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 6:23 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga wrote: > This message was originally Telugu Wikimedia mailing list on the branding > community consultation discussion, by Manoj Kulkarni. I am looping in the > Indian mailing list, where this discussion was originally going on. > > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 5:49 PM manoj kulkarni < > kulkarnimanoj1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have some concerns regarding this whole process which, I think, need to >> be addressed as soon as possible. >> >> As far as I have understood, Samir is coming to India to get feedback from >> the Indian affiliates and communities about the re-branding proposal and >> report it back to WMF. Re-branding is a very debatable proposal which will >> definitely affect, in a controversial and unclear way, the future of >> almost >> all emerging communities, affiliates and sister projects. >> >> So, my questions are, >> 1) Why was information about Samir's trip to India, not declared to the >> communities well ahead of time so that the communities and affiliates >> could >> express their voices and concerns directly with preparation? >> 2) Who decided that visiting only Punjabi, Hindi and Bangalore >> communities >> is sufficient enough to provide the feedback of all Indian communities? >> Why >> were not other communities and affiliates included in the process? What >> criteria these three communities met so that they can represent the voices >> from all over the country and why not other communities consulted about >> this? >> Why is Samir staying in Patiala, Delhi and Bangalore for extra days for >> local sightseeing and not utilizing the days to communicate with other >> communities and who planned for this kind of schedule? >> How will it be ensured to provide ample opportunity for community members >> to express their opinions? Online session is not a good option as many >> don't have the necessary infrastructure to do so. >> >> There is a feeling in the community that re-branding is already a made >> decision by the WMF and this kind of non-transparency further endorses >> that >> theory. >> >> Hoping to get positive responses. >> >> Regards, >> Manoj Kulkarni >> ___ >> WikiTe-L mailing list >> wikit...@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikite-l >> > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [తెవికీ] Fwd: Updates about Wikimedia Foundation Community brand and marketing coordinator visit to India
This message was originally Telugu Wikimedia mailing list on the branding community consultation discussion, by Manoj Kulkarni. I am looping in the Indian mailing list, where this discussion was originally going on. On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 5:49 PM manoj kulkarni wrote: > Hi, > > I have some concerns regarding this whole process which, I think, need to > be addressed as soon as possible. > > As far as I have understood, Samir is coming to India to get feedback from > the Indian affiliates and communities about the re-branding proposal and > report it back to WMF. Re-branding is a very debatable proposal which will > definitely affect, in a controversial and unclear way, the future of almost > all emerging communities, affiliates and sister projects. > > So, my questions are, > 1) Why was information about Samir's trip to India, not declared to the > communities well ahead of time so that the communities and affiliates could > express their voices and concerns directly with preparation? > 2) Who decided that visiting only Punjabi, Hindi and Bangalore communities > is sufficient enough to provide the feedback of all Indian communities? Why > were not other communities and affiliates included in the process? What > criteria these three communities met so that they can represent the voices > from all over the country and why not other communities consulted about > this? > Why is Samir staying in Patiala, Delhi and Bangalore for extra days for > local sightseeing and not utilizing the days to communicate with other > communities and who planned for this kind of schedule? > How will it be ensured to provide ample opportunity for community members > to express their opinions? Online session is not a good option as many > don't have the necessary infrastructure to do so. > > There is a feeling in the community that re-branding is already a made > decision by the WMF and this kind of non-transparency further endorses that > theory. > > Hoping to get positive responses. > > Regards, > Manoj Kulkarni > ___ > WikiTe-L mailing list > wikit...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikite-l > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
