Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tale of two workshops

2011-03-08 Thread Gautam John
Thank you, Bala.

 The best way to grab their attention is to switch off/use sparingly the
 powerpoint presentation and talk to them about the articles they understand.

Really interesting - I would have thought that an slidedeck
introduction would work but your point is something I shall
incorporate in to my learnings.

 And on the other extreme are the wikimedia editor / jimmy wales videos -
 they are shiny, distracting and IMO ultimately pointless to the Indian
 audience

Would 'Indian' videos, so to speak, in multiple languages work better?
Maybe this is something we could work on?

 I have found out using live examples works best. I talked about wikipedia
 articles on subjects familiar to them (academic subject articles are an
 absolute no no in the beginning).

TASMAC being this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TASMAC If so,
hehe. I completely see how it would interesting.

Also, how important does everyone see having say, ten or so, laptops
and data cards to use is?

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tale of two workshops

2011-03-08 Thread Jessie Wild
Really interesting to read, Bala - thanks for taking the time to write 
this up!

On 3/7/2011 11:05 PM, BalaSundaraRaman wrote:
 Let's please document such reports at 
 http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and/or wikimedia.in apart 
 from emailing to the list.

In terms of documentation, I wanted to direct you all to the draft 
University programming plan currently in development.  The general plan 
describing the overall need and approach towards university program work 
can be found at the outreach wiki: 
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_University_Program

Four different models are outlined as ways to reach universities: via 
classrooms, student groups, university staff, and outside constituents.  
The local Wikimedian Community/chapter falls into this last category, 
and the suggestions/activities you recorded here are great examples of 
involvement.  There is a shell of page for this created on outreach as 
well: 
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/External_approach_-_example_activities

It would be great to capture some of these thoughts on this last page 
specifically!

Thanks again -
Jessie

-- 
Jessie Wild
Special Projects Manager
Global Development
Wikimedia Foundation


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[Wikimediaindia-l] A tale of two workshops

2011-03-07 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
Hi all,

This is a brief report on the two Wiki workshops in Tamil Nadu in the
previous two weeks

==
*Coimbatore - 26 February 2011.*

This workshop was conducted in the PSG College of Technology, Coimbatore, as
part of their Technical festival Kriya 2011. I arranged for this workshop
through cold calling - I mailed a dozen colleges in the Coimbatore area,
proposing a wiki introduction section and the students union head of PSG
replied with a request for a formal proposal to present to their dean. I did
so and the workshop was okayed. It was a closed workshop - only for students
attending Kriya 2011 and had a registration fee of Rs. 100 (for which the
attendees got a participation certificate from the college).

150 students had pre-registered for the workshop and about a 100 turned up
on the day. The capacity of the computer lab was 50 and we had arranged for
three separate sessions. The sessions were about 1.5 hours in length with 45
of minutes of me talking and another 45 minutes of editing wikipedia live.
All the computers in the lab had internet connections and so it was easy to
teach them edit directly (and earned the lab's IP a couple of warning
templates in en wiki). The first two sessions had like 75 people and the
last one 10 people (post lunch only a few turned up). It was a typical
engineering college crowd - familiar with social networking/file
sharing/search the internet for assignment research, but nothing more than
that. They all had used wikipedia but were unsure about editing it - the
most cited excuse was they didnt think they were upto it.

The sessions were a mixed success - half the crowd had turned up for the
participation certificate and it was difficult to retain their attention.
But the other half was eager to learn something new and there were a few
very enthusiastic people eager to contribute

(photos and report in Ta wiki -
http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BF_26,_2011_%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88_%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8B%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%88
)


*March 5, Puthanampatti, Trichy

*This was a completely different experience from the previous week. While i
had arranged the PSG workshop, this one came looking for me. Two of the
faculty members of Nehru memorial college at Puthanampatti near Trichy had
attended the NIT -Trichy workshop on Feb 20 and had liked what they saw.
They asked me if i could do a workshop in their college. It is a rural arts
and science college sitting in the middle of nowhere. It has excellent
infrastructure - faculty that cares, good labs and a fantastic library but
the students are terminally shy.

This workshop was organised under a UGC scheme for students appearing for
govt exams, so the theme was slightly different - how to use wikipedia as a
learning resource. There were the usual two sessions - a couple of hours of
me blabbing and an hour of hands on editing. Nearly 100 students attended
the first session where i introduced wikipedia and taught them how to use it
as a learning resource (chasing the references, ref desk, commons,
wikiversity, wikibooks, wiktionary etc) and how editing an article on the
subject would require researching which leads to learning on their part.
There were a few IAS/competitive examinations aspirants in the audience and
i was to able to show how wikipedia would help them learn faster than say
competition success review et al. The intro session went well, but when we
reconvened for the live session after lunch, the non-computer science
students didn't turn up at the lab. The organisers said they left because
they are unsure of using internet. But the compsci crowd remained and we
spent a good one hour editing Tamil wikipedia. We created an article in Ta
wiki for their college, added references, photos, internal links, external
links, categories etc and they got the general idea of wiki editing very
quickly (which led to a rash of experimental articles and an increase in
workload of ta wiki admins :-)). Since this was the compsci crowd, teaching
them wiki markup was remarkably easy - they immediately grasped it and
started editing articles.

The college paid me 2500 Rs allocated to the resource person by UGC for
such activities. It was an awkward situation accepting money - but they had
to present their accounts and show that the money allocated by UGC was
actually spent, so i couldnt say no. I took the money and  donated 2100 Rs
(minus my travelling + pamphlet expenses) to the foundation. Maybe the
chapter can work out some sort of guidelines for this whole getting paid in
the line of outreach thing. (The donation to foundation minus expenses was
an idea i got from the prevailing paid editing practice in en wiki)

Photos and tamil report here -

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tale of two workshops

2011-03-07 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
Hi Bala Jeyaraman,


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote:



 Hi all,

 This is a brief report on the two Wiki workshops in Tamil Nadu in the
 previous two weeks
 --snip--


Delighted to read your reports and observations. I firmly believe in  wiki
academy events in colleges with good infrastructure as the way to do
outreach with maximum effect. I have done about 5 of them in Andhrapradesh
and published reports of the same on blog and on wiki (in Telugu). I   am
eagerly looking for volunteers to take the thread and do more. I am glad to
see your initiative in Tamil wiki.

I appreciate your gesture of donating the fee minus expenses received from
the college to the foundation. Your suggestion to chapter to work out
better mechanism/policy with regard to the same is welcome.


Cheers
Arjuna Rao Chavala
http://teluginux.blogspot.com/2009/10/6-2009.html (Telugu blog about the
first Telugu wiki academy)
Article in Telugu wiki newsletter
Tewikivarthahttp://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%A1%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BE:%E0%B0%A4%E0%B1%86%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80_%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%B0%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%A4/2010-12-07/%E0%B0%A4%E0%B1%86%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80_%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%88_%E0%B0%85%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%97%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%B9%E0%B0%A8%E0%B0%BE_%E0%B0%B8%E0%B0%A6%E0%B0%B8%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B8%E0%B1%81on
Telugu wiki academies
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