[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Flagged Protection in the UK press
(This doesn't seem to have come through... Also, expect more to come. Mike) Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net Date: 25 August 2009 14:05:29 BDT To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Communications Committee wmfc...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Flagged Protection in the UK press Flagged Protection has been covered today by (so far!) BBC News (with quotes from me): http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8220220.stm The Times (with quotes from me): http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/ article6809285.ece Also The 10 biggest Wikipedia hoaxes http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/ article6809313.ece Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia- appoints-volunteer-editors-vet-changes-articles-living-people.html Guardian Blog: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/aug/25/wikipedia- crowdsourcing ... all because of the New York Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/technology/internet/25wikipedia.html Mike Peel Wikimedia UK ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Flagged Revs on BBC Radio 5 Live ~6:50pm BST tonight
Radio 5 Live just called, they want to do a piece on the flagged revisions media buzz on today's drivetime show. I'll be on by phone around 6:50pm BST (17:50 UTC). - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Flagged Protection in the UK press
- Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: and Andrew Turvey should be talking on Tom McGurk’s Irish radio show as I type this (6.45pm BST). They didn't get the email in time unfortunately, so will be doing it tomorrow instead. Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Flagged Revs on BBC Radio 5 Live ~6:50pm BST tonight
2009/8/25 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Were you on earlier than expected? I tuned it at around 6:45pm and apparently missed you. Yeah, they ran out of football to babble about or something. Drivetimes tend to end up on iPlayer, presumably today's will in due course. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flagged revs
2009/8/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: This is telly and Very Important. I'll have my suit and tie ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsnight Perhaps I'll get Paxmanned! I NEED INFORMATION. * When's Flagged Revs being switched on? * Where's the latest version of *precisely what's happening*? * etc? I can arse it through for Radio 5, but Newsnight is a bit scary! For those not familiar with British TV, Newsnight is probably the most highbrow current affairs program we have. This is a very big deal! Best of luck to you David, I know you'll do a fantastic job. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flagged revs
On Tue, August 25, 2009 7:52 pm, Michael Peel wrote: Another thought: this is actually more open than just locking the article. :-) I've been trying to push precisely that point. People view this as a bad thing, but as long as Wikipedia doesn't apply it to everything and uses it to replace the current protection of articles, then it could work very well. I would push the alternative to protection angle. It should be used like a taser should be used - as an alternative to shooting people, not as a routine tool. Unfortunately, I've yet to find a page that describes how wide-spread the flagged protection is intended to be... I've noticed a dearth of information on that too. J -- Jonathan G Hall jonat...@sinewave42.com ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flagged revs
2009/8/25 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net: I just want to confirm everything that David's saying. In addition, after today's volume of phone calls, I need to recover, and really lack the energy to go on TV at that time of night. ;-) Yes. When there's a media feeding frenzy, it's all-hands time! As I posted here about the IWF kerfuffle ... Mike's been directing this one and the WMUK phone seems to be where more of the action is these days. So that's good. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Talis Incubator for OpenEducation funding available
Simple English Wikipedia has always had a people learning English scope, perhaps? - Original Message - From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Talis Incubator for OpenEducation funding available Would it be worth applying for a grant via the below incubator? Particularly for the schools' project, I guess - does anyone have other projects in mind that this would suit? Thanks, Mike Begin forwarded message: From: Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com Date: 20 August 2009 03:08:13 BDT To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription) interna...@lists.wikimedia.org, chapt...@wikimedia.ch Subject: [Internal-l] Talis Incubator for Open Education funding available Reply-To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination \(closed subscription\) interna...@lists.wikimedia.org Via the Creative Commons blog - http://creativecommons.org/weblog/ entry/17005 Talis Incubator for Open Education For the latest news follow us on twitter: @talisincubator Talis understands the growing importance of the Open Education movement and its potential impact on how education is accessed, assessed and certified. Aimed at individuals or small groups, the Talis Incubator for Open Education provides angel funding and other forms of assistance for ideas and projects that have the potential to further the cause of Open Education through the use of technology. All we ask in return is that you donate or ‘open source’ the intellectual property generated back to the communities that could benefit most from your work. The brief 1. Write a proposal outlining your Open Education related project or idea, making a bid for funding of between £1,000 and £15,000. 2. After reviewing and making sure your proposal meets the guidelines, submit it to incuba...@talis.com. 3. A proposal review board made up of independent thought leaders and Talis representatives decide which projects get funding. 4. For successful bids, Talis awards you the funds and organises any other help you have asked for. 5. Complete the project according to the schedule outlined in your proposal. 6. Talis helps you to make sure your work is disseminated amongst the community. from http://blogs.talis.com/education/incubator/ they also note We also welcome applications from outside the UK, however we regret that we can only consider and award amounts in GBP (£), so if you are from outside the UK please account for exchange rate fluctuation, and make sure you can receive funds paid in GBP. Looks a bit interesting! cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Internal-l mailing list interna...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flagged revs
Well done, David, good work! It's a pity you weren't able to emphasise the this is better than what we had before point more, but at least you managed to mention it. However, it sounded like the plan was to have all BLPs flag protected, but I don't see that on the description of the trial. In fact, it doesn't seem to mention it having anything to do with BLPs other than BLP being one of the policies an article needs to satisfy to be flagged. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight tonight! re: flagged revs
Also watched it with interest, I was also shaking my head when she said that free editing had been a 'mirage' all along. I think the point that this was just a short trial and was not something that would come quickly was not emphasised enough, but meh. But yes, I certainly would not be brave enough to step up and talk about FlaggedRevs. Great work, David. :) - Chris On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: Well done, David, good work! It's a pity you weren't able to emphasise the this is better than what we had before point more, but at least you managed to mention it. However, it sounded like the plan was to have all BLPs flag protected, but I don't see that on the description of the trial. In fact, it doesn't seem to mention it having anything to do with BLPs other than BLP being one of the policies an article needs to satisfy to be flagged. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Y! Alert: Wikimedia UK Blog
Now that we've got this new blog, it would be useful if we could get the various media integrated so that the message is getting through all the different channels. I've been looking at ways to get blog posts automatically fed into the email list. I've come across Yahoo Alerts, which runs off the RSS feed and seems to work, but it doesn't give you any images and mixes in the image captions to the text. Of course there is a link to the story if anyone wants to follow up. My question: would people like, in principle to receive an alert like this to this email group whenever a blog story is published? If so, is a Yahoo Alert like below good enough? Does anyone know of any other system that is better? Andrew Forwarded Message - From: Yahoo! Alerts ale...@yahoo-inc.com To: andrewrtur...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, 25 August, 2009 18:22:23 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Y! Alert: Wikimedia UK Blog Yahoo! Blog Alert Yahoo! Alerts My Alerts The latest from Wikimedia UK Blog • Welcome to the Wikimedia UK blog! Welcome to the Wikimedia UK blog! Image via Wikipedia Welcome to the blog of Wikimedia UK , the chapter of the Wikimedia projects covering the United Kingdom. We’ll be using this blog to bring you news and information both about Wikimedia UK and Wikimedia projects within the UK in general. Location of UK in Europe (Image via Wikipedia ) Wikimedia UK aims to be as transparent as possible – our board meetings are held publicly on IRC, all important decisions are discussed first on our mailing list , and we have a monthly newsletter . All of our initiatives are volunteer-driven ( get involved! ) and are funded by your donations . We are kept running by our membership , which is open to all ( join now! ). We hope that this blog will let us be even more transparent, and communicate more efficiently with you (either as a member, as a user of Wikimedia or simply some who uses or takes interest in our projects or open knowledge as a whole). Please, subscribe to the RSS feed , leave comments, and get in touch if there’s something you want to post here. CREATE MORE ALERTS: Auctions - Find out when new auctions are posted Horoscopes - Receive your daily horoscope Music - Get the newest Album Releases, Playlists and more News - Only the news you want, delivered! Stocks - Stay connected to the market with price quotes and more Weather - Get today's weather conditions You received this email because you subscribed to Yahoo! Alerts. Use this link to unsubscribe from this alert. To change your communications preferences for other Yahoo! business lines, please visit your Marketing Preferences . To learn more about Yahoo!'s use of personal information, including the use of web beacons in HTML-based email, please read our Privacy Policy . Yahoo! is located at 701 First Avenue, Sunnyvale, CA 94089.___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Flagged Revs on BBC Radio 5 Live ~6:50pm BST tonight
2009/8/26 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: It's on iPlayer now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00m9plf/5_live_Drive_25_08_2009/ 2:41:50 to 2:45:05. (6:40pm to 6:44pm.) - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Y! Alert: Wikimedia UK Blog
2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: My question: would people like, in principle to receive an alert like this to this email group whenever a blog story is published? Yes. If so, is a Yahoo Alert like below good enough? Maybe. Does anyone know of any other system that is better? I hope so. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Flagged Revs on BBC Radio 5 Live ~6:50pm BST tonight
2009/8/25 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/8/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/8/25 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Radio 5 Live just called, they want to do a piece on the flagged revisions media buzz on today's drivetime show. I'll be on by phone around 6:50pm BST (17:50 UTC). Anita whatsit's intro was Wikipedia is locking down o noez, editors Were you on earlier than expected? I tuned it at around 6:45pm and apparently missed you. It's on iPlayer now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00m9plf/5_live_Drive_25_08_2009/ I'll see if I can rip the audio stream for non-UK listeners' amusement. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Flagged Revs on BBC Radio 5 Live ~6:50pm BST tonight
2009/8/26 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/8/26 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: It's on iPlayer now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00m9plf/5_live_Drive_25_08_2009/ 2:41:50 to 2:45:05. (6:40pm to 6:44pm.) I've just listened to it. Very good indeed! If only Newsnight had just played a copy of that interview... You didn't mention that pages are protected already, but it wasn't really necessary, you were given the chance to explain that this is a good thing, regardless of what is happening now. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Y! Alert: Wikimedia UK Blog
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Andrew Turveyandrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote: Now that we've got this new blog, it would be useful if we could get the various media integrated so that the message is getting through all the different channels. For posting to social networks (like twitter, which you guys have now), Ping.fm http://ping.fm/ is very useful. It posts the same message to a ton of networks. :-) Does anyone know of any other system that is better? You could try feedburner out, maybe. http://feedburner.google.com/ -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
