Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding
On 13 September 2011 09:22, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Picking up on Richard's Suggestions for Merchandise, as we are about to start working with Museum Galleries Scotland to drive involvement and a new GLAM events programme, I am considering how to brand it. Are there any views for or against using an image of Wikimedia in Scotland rather than just the WM-UK logo? My concern is that some will resist joining in a UK branded programme but would rush to support a country specific initiative. If it gets better results, we could follow a similar pattern for Wales and avoid appearing to push UK in every document (or teeshirt). Before signing the chapters agreement with the WMF, we were careful to amend it to include permission for us to call ourselves Wikimedia Scotland (etc.) in order to leave our options open for this kind of thing. You could, therefore, use a Wikimedia Scotland logo (with some small print making clear that both Wikimedia Scotland and Wikimedia UK are trading names of Wiki UK Ltd. on anything more important that a t-shirt). The downside of that is that it harms brand recognition, since neither brand is getting used as much as a single brand would be. The only question really is whether the benefit from appeasing Scottish nationalists outweighs the harm from splitting our brand. I don't know enough about Scottish nationalism to know, but I can believe that it would be. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:22, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any views for or against using an image of Wikimedia in Scotland rather than just the WM-UK logo? My concern is that some will resist joining in a UK branded programme but would rush to support a country specific initiative. If it gets better results, we could follow a similar pattern for Wales and avoid appearing to push UK in every document (or teeshirt). Reductio ad absurdum: Unless it says Wikimedia East Sussex, I'm not interested! ;-) -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise
On 12 September 2011 21:28, Harry Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: I don't know how much use postcards, even Wikimedia postcards, would get, but some of the Commons POTYs would be great for that kind of thing. How we get past look at the pretty picture to upload your own, I'm not sure. In my (relatively limited) experience, it's not the smallest sizes that are left over! ;) What else makes a good platform for advertising Commons? Some mosaic Commons postcards (possibly from WMDE?) were floating around at Wikimania, and were very popular - well, they vanished fast, anyway. In my experience, a lot of people take these to be pretty pictures to put somewhere rather than to use as postcards qua postcards, which is fair enough, but perhaps we could capitalise on this. If they're not actually using the back, we don't need to leave it blank - so why not pre-print it with a message? Some options: a) a quick guide to uploading to Commons, in two or three steps. b) ditto for creating an enwiki (or other project) account. c) a general introduction to free content. d) the story of the image. The latter requires careful research and selection, but is potentially very impressive if we do it right - This picture of a sycamore was taken on June 2008 by Maria, a German Wikipedia editor in Munich. Since then, it's been used to illustrate 48 articles in 36 different language editions of Wikipedia, where it's been seen well over four hundred thousand times. It's used in over a hundred other websites as a stock photograph, and has appeared in a magazine and a children's schoolbook. - and it should be fairly easy to follow that with a message of you can really contribute something worthwhile! -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding
If we have a brand that is unacceptable to Scotland (or a portion of it) then do we need to change rather than split our brand? Is it the UK bit? Would the flag be more acceptable or a map of our country (yes I know that gives the Irish a problem). Is it possible to use the Wikimedia logo next to a Scottish logo and fudge the issue? Wikimedia's message is internationalist not nationalist. a thought Roger On 13 September 2011 13:07, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: Actually the situation with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is quite different. Working in those nations with a UK name and an address in England tends to go down rather less well (particularly if you are dealing with institutions that are part of the national cultural fabric, as we are likely to). My only concern about using different national branding is that it might give an impression of more actual devolution than there genuinely is. One solution to that is to actually have some devolution. If there are people interested in taking responsibility for Scottish cultural outreach, then they could just be given a budget and left to get on with it (with some oversight from the board, of course). Well, indeed. Personally I would like to see that happen, but I think we are at least a year away from it at the moment. Chris ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin Chair WMUK http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2 ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise
I'm not convinced that Postcards are that big an opportunity, unlike Xmas cards there isn't a tradition of buying charity ones. I'm sure we could do an awesome pack of seasonal greetings cards and there is a well developed infrastructure around that for us to get into. Where there may well be a gap in the market for Postcards is for many local areas with a little bit of tourism but not enough to support Postcard production in the era of high volume printing. So tourists to London can find Postcards of Big Ben and Tower bridge in hundreds of outlets. But the combination of Commons as source of images and the revolution in print economics does give us the opportunity to create a Postcard service. I don't know what the minimum economic run would be for it to be interesting, but I suspect it would be within reach of some individual shops. I'm thinking in terms of a webservice that allows people to say where they are and offers local pictures (from commons) but with a category and search based option that gives access to everything else. This could let people choose a bunch of designs and volumes, and buy by credit card or Paypal with delivery by Post. The only drawback, and it is a big one, is that anyone could launch a rival service and undercut us. Unlike Xmas cards there is no tradition of choosing charity ones where it comes to Postcards. Regards WSC On 13 September 2011 00:34, iain.macdon...@wikinewsie.org wrote: Add a 'your pic here' line under the postcard photo? Might it be possible, also, to arrange people - retailers, say - to order themselves ANY Commons image with that tagline beneath as a postcard? Maybe have images verified first somehow, to prevent copyright abuse. Massive infrastructure and time work, but blue sky and all that. Iain Original Message Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise From: Harry Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com Date: Mon, September 12, 2011 9:28 pm To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org I don't know how much use postcards, even Wikimedia postcards, would get, but some of the Commons POTYs would be great for that kind of thing. How we get past look at the pretty picture to upload your own, I'm not sure. In my (relatively limited) experience, it's not the smallest sizes that are left over! ;) What else makes a good platform for advertising Commons? Harry -- *From:* Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com *To:* 'Harry Mitchell' hjmitch...@ymail.com; wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Monday, 12 September 2011, 21:08 *Subject:* RE: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise Tshirts are good, but you do have to get every size, and invariably there’ll be loads of “extra extra” sizes left over. Something that’d encourage people to upload to commons would be good though – I did get a WM Commons Christmas card last year from Mr Forrester! Postcards would be cheap, easy to make, and we’ve got some wonderful pictures. But would they be good at getting people to upload? PS – I’m loving these ideas. Flip-flops especially! *From:* wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [ mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.orgwikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Harry Mitchell *Sent:* 12 September 2011 19:03 *To:* wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise How about t-shirts or something that encourage people to upload their images to Commons? I've long thought that more people *would* if they knew about it. Harry -- *From:* George Watson george.wat...@wikinewsie.org *To:* wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Monday, 12 September 2011, 18:44 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com wrote: That said, we can worry about the specific legalities later - I don't want to get bogged down in them now. The idea that there may even be any sort of legal dimension hadn't occurred in even the most over-active and alert synapses of my fevered brain! So, I don't know how I managed to plant that seed... No, I was just trying to picture the merchandise, so whether it was going to have a UK mention on it or just be plain Wikimedia was about picturing it. I'm hoping for some blue-sky ideas. If you could hand something to someone in the street - one thing - that would make them edit Wikipedia, what would you like it to be? Something that makes the person go hmmm... or ooh!... WereSpiel's ideas of mousemats and mugs are tried and tested but I think none the worse for that. If it were within our abilities to revolutionise merchandising I suspect we'd be typing our emails on solid gold keyboards. But, OK, blue-sky and would really make me edit? I think the one thing that would most make me want
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise
Wikimedia Christmas cards using seasonal Commons images are a good idea. Ditto the charity calendars idea. If we want those available for this Christmas, though, we'd probably need to get the ball rolling (however one does that, it's not my area of expertise) fairly soon. Harry From: WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 14:04 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise I'm not convinced that Postcards are that big an opportunity, unlike Xmas cards there isn't a tradition of buying charity ones. I'm sure we could do an awesome pack of seasonal greetings cards and there is a well developed infrastructure around that for us to get into. Where there may well be a gap in the market for Postcards is for many local areas with a little bit of tourism but not enough to support Postcard production in the era of high volume printing. So tourists to London can find Postcards of Big Ben and Tower bridge in hundreds of outlets. But the combination of Commons as source of images and the revolution in print economics does give us the opportunity to create a Postcard service. I don't know what the minimum economic run would be for it to be interesting, but I suspect it would be within reach of some individual shops. I'm thinking in terms of a webservice that allows people to say where they are and offers local pictures (from commons) but with a category and search based option that gives access to everything else. This could let people choose a bunch of designs and volumes, and buy by credit card or Paypal with delivery by Post. The only drawback, and it is a big one, is that anyone could launch a rival service and undercut us. Unlike Xmas cards there is no tradition of choosing charity ones where it comes to Postcards. Regards WSC On 13 September 2011 00:34, iain.macdon...@wikinewsie.org wrote: Add a 'your pic here' line under the postcard photo? Might it be possible, also, to arrange people - retailers, say - to order themselves ANY Commons image with that tagline beneath as a postcard? Maybe have images verified first somehow, to prevent copyright abuse. Massive infrastructure and time work, but blue sky and all that. Iain Original Message Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise From: Harry Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com Date: Mon, September 12, 2011 9:28 pm To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org I don't know how much use postcards, even Wikimedia postcards, would get, but some of the Commons POTYs would be great for that kind of thing. How we get past look at the pretty picture to upload your own, I'm not sure. In my (relatively limited) experience, it's not the smallest sizes that are left over! ;) What else makes a good platform for advertising Commons? Harry From: Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com To: 'Harry Mitchell' hjmitch...@ymail.com; wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011, 21:08 Subject: RE: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise Tshirts are good, but you do have to get every size, and invariably there’ll be loads of “extra extra” sizes left over. Something that’d encourage people to upload to commons would be good though – I did get a WM Commons Christmas card last year from Mr Forrester! Postcards would be cheap, easy to make, and we’ve got some wonderful pictures. But would they be good at getting people to upload? PS – I’m loving these ideas. Flip-flops especially! From:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Harry Mitchell Sent: 12 September 2011 19:03 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise How about t-shirts or something that encourage people to upload their images to Commons? I've long thought that more people *would* if they knew about it. Harry From:George Watson george.wat...@wikinewsie.org To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011, 18:44 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com wrote: That said, we can worry about the specific legalities later - I don't want to get bogged down in them now. The idea that there may even be any sort of legal dimension hadn't occurred in even the most over-active and alert synapses of my fevered brain! So, I don't know how I managed to plant that seed... No, I was just trying to picture the merchandise, so whether it was going to have a UK mention on it or just be plain Wikimedia was about picturing it. I'm hoping for some blue-sky ideas. If you could hand something to someone in the street - one thing - that would make them edit
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise
We've almost certainly missed the boat for this year, and both should stay firmly on the drawing board until we have registered charity status. Once we are a registered charity then many things will become much easier, but until then we risk potential partners saying registered charities only. I know that Payroll giving is legally only for registered charities, but I suspect we'd find others baulking t putting a non-charity in the charity cards section of a shop. When we do get this going we will also need to be aware of leadtimes - Payroll giving may be quite quick to start, but I suspect that the charity calender business involves buyers from the big multiples making decisions with ample time to get attractive printing deals long before Christmas. More realistically lets hope to get some test volumes in for Xmas 2012 and serious calender revenue in Xmas 2013. WSC On 13 September 2011 14:33, Harry Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Wikimedia Christmas cards using seasonal Commons images are a good idea. Ditto the charity calendars idea. If we want those available for this Christmas, though, we'd probably need to get the ball rolling (however one does that, it's not my area of expertise) fairly soon. Harry -- *From:* WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com *To:* wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 14:04 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise I'm not convinced that Postcards are that big an opportunity, unlike Xmas cards there isn't a tradition of buying charity ones. I'm sure we could do an awesome pack of seasonal greetings cards and there is a well developed infrastructure around that for us to get into. Where there may well be a gap in the market for Postcards is for many local areas with a little bit of tourism but not enough to support Postcard production in the era of high volume printing. So tourists to London can find Postcards of Big Ben and Tower bridge in hundreds of outlets. But the combination of Commons as source of images and the revolution in print economics does give us the opportunity to create a Postcard service. I don't know what the minimum economic run would be for it to be interesting, but I suspect it would be within reach of some individual shops. I'm thinking in terms of a webservice that allows people to say where they are and offers local pictures (from commons) but with a category and search based option that gives access to everything else. This could let people choose a bunch of designs and volumes, and buy by credit card or Paypal with delivery by Post. The only drawback, and it is a big one, is that anyone could launch a rival service and undercut us. Unlike Xmas cards there is no tradition of choosing charity ones where it comes to Postcards. Regards WSC On 13 September 2011 00:34, iain.macdon...@wikinewsie.org wrote: Add a 'your pic here' line under the postcard photo? Might it be possible, also, to arrange people - retailers, say - to order themselves ANY Commons image with that tagline beneath as a postcard? Maybe have images verified first somehow, to prevent copyright abuse. Massive infrastructure and time work, but blue sky and all that. Iain Original Message Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise From: Harry Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com Date: Mon, September 12, 2011 9:28 pm To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org I don't know how much use postcards, even Wikimedia postcards, would get, but some of the Commons POTYs would be great for that kind of thing. How we get past look at the pretty picture to upload your own, I'm not sure. In my (relatively limited) experience, it's not the smallest sizes that are left over! ;) What else makes a good platform for advertising Commons? Harry -- *From:* Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com *To:* 'Harry Mitchell' hjmitch...@ymail.com; wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Monday, 12 September 2011, 21:08 *Subject:* RE: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise Tshirts are good, but you do have to get every size, and invariably there’ll be loads of “extra extra” sizes left over. Something that’d encourage people to upload to commons would be good though – I did get a WM Commons Christmas card last year from Mr Forrester! Postcards would be cheap, easy to make, and we’ve got some wonderful pictures. But would they be good at getting people to upload? PS – I’m loving these ideas. Flip-flops especially! *From:* wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [ mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.orgwikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Harry Mitchell *Sent:* 12 September 2011 19:03 *To:* wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise How about t-shirts or something that
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise
Charity Christmas cards and calendars are ordered in about March for sale in August onwards, which is regarded as in time for Christmas. We also don't have the typical charity Christmas shopping demographic - our donor demographic wants everything available online and instantly and probably doesn't start thinking about Christmas until December. Payroll giving is definitely something we should offer when we are a charity, but is in no sense easy to set up (and it's also very much an ugly duckling in the fundraising world, lengthy discussion as to reasons why). Chris (slightly in critic mode) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise
On 13 September 2011 15:18, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: Charity Christmas cards and calendars are ordered in about March for sale in August onwards, which is regarded as in time for Christmas. Yes, this Xmas is out. But I throw it out there now in the hope we might remember for next year.. We also don't have the typical charity Christmas shopping demographic - our donor demographic wants everything available online and instantly and probably doesn't start thinking about Christmas until December. The brilliant thing about calendars is that it doesn't matter - we won't be targeting our donor demographic. We will just be selling calendars; a nice calendar will sell anywhere, and if it is for a charitable cause, all the better! I've sold calendars for a few of the businesses/NFP's I consult for and they are a consistently solid fundraising route. Tom ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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On 12 September 2011 21:08, Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com wrote: Something that’d encourage people to upload to commons would be good though – I did get a WM Commons Christmas card last year from Mr Forrester! Postcards would be cheap, easy to make, and we’ve got some wonderful pictures. But would they be good at getting people to upload? To clarify, I faked a range of seasonal greetings cards with the Wikimedia Community logo and a reference to the source from Commons on the back, using Moo. Partially as a prompt to people about doing merchandise, to be honest. :-) I know I'm really sad, but a Wikimedia logo lapel pin (in coloured enamel) would be very nice for regular office-workers like me who want to demonstrate the wiki-love in their regular lives. And of course, Wikimedia Deutschland's lanyard that's so over-specified you could use one to attach your parachute to it are great, too. J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding
On 13 September 2011 14:00, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote: If we have a brand that is unacceptable to Scotland (or a portion of it) then do we need to change rather than split our brand? Is it the UK bit? Would the flag be more acceptable or a map of our country (yes I know that gives the Irish a problem). We need a name, we can't just have a picture. (Or we'll end up being The Chapter formerly known as Wikimedia UK!) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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On 13 September 2011 13:58, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: +1. I very much like this idea! Does anyone know who set that up/who was in charge of that idea? Commons has the PDFs here (which are bizarrely distorted by mediawiki, but there you go): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Commons_Postcard.pdf http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Commons_Postkarte_(sw).pdf You can probably chase down the original details via the author (or just by asking WMDE directly) -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Payroll giving is easy to set up, just very difficult to recruit for, and difficult to measure which recruitment methods worked. There has to be an intermediary who takes money from employers and distributes it to the charities that the employees have nominated. Last time I looked there were only three or four intermediaries and I think they aimed to support any registered charity that an employee chose. So the difficult thing is getting inside the organisation and getting people to donate via payroll giving rather than direct debit. As Chris said it is seen as something of an ugly duckling, hence you only need 10% participation in any one company to get the Government's gold award. I achieved 25% in a company I used to work at. WSC On 13 September 2011 15:18, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: Charity Christmas cards and calendars are ordered in about March for sale in August onwards, which is regarded as in time for Christmas. We also don't have the typical charity Christmas shopping demographic - our donor demographic wants everything available online and instantly and probably doesn't start thinking about Christmas until December. Payroll giving is definitely something we should offer when we are a charity, but is in no sense easy to set up (and it's also very much an ugly duckling in the fundraising world, lengthy discussion as to reasons why). Chris (slightly in critic mode) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: UK versus regional branding
On 13 September 2011 13:05, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: One solution to that is to actually have some devolution. If there are people interested in taking responsibility for Scottish cultural outreach, then they could just be given a budget and left to get on with it (with some oversight from the board, of course). An approach that gives you a real headache when someone makes the same request for London (on population grounds it makes sense). There is at the present time nowhere near the the level of activity for that kind of split to make sense. Even if we did have the numbers slits work far better if they cover areas that everyone in that area can access. A group that covered everything from Gretna to Thurso makes little sense. -- geni ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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The decision shouldn't be made based on population, but on whether there would be a significant benefit. A Scottish group could be much more effective in Scotland than a UK group. The same isn't true of London. Londoners have a reputation for forgetting the rest of the country exists, but they don't object to it. On Sep 13, 2011 11:28 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 September 2011 13:05, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: One solution to that is to actually have some devolution. If there are people interested in taking responsibility for Scottish cultural outreach, then they could just be given a budget and left to get on with it (with some oversight from the board, of course). An approach that gives you a real headache when someone makes the same request for London (on population grounds it makes sense). There is at the present time nowhere near the the level of activity for that kind of split to make sense. Even if we did have the numbers slits work far better if they cover areas that everyone in that area can access. A group that covered everything from Gretna to Thurso makes little sense. -- geni ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
