Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chilcot Report uses OGL

[Joseph Fox]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but copyright protection laws in the UK usually
trump claims of public interest. We'd probably need some landmark court
case to prove otherwise.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 at 23:51 とある白い猫  wrote:

> I do not understand what you are asking me. Do you want me to find you an
> academic paper regarding the BBC for an exception we should seek? Why would
> I do this?
>
> The question here is simple: Do we seek to acquire these files in the
> interest of the general public or do we not bother to attempt this?
>
>   -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
>
> On 12 July 2016 at 16:03, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
>
>> On 12 July 2016 at 12:22, とある白い猫  wrote:
>>
>> > I am not really interested in discussing general policy of the BBC etc.
>> > regarding copyright at this point.
>>
>> Neither am I; I asked whether you could substantiate your claim that:
>>
>>   BBC and commercial providers can be compelled [to relinquish their
>>   rights] on the basis of public interest
>>
>> If you cannot, I'm happy to leave things there.
>>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chilcot Report uses OGL

[とある白い猫]

I do not understand what you are asking me. Do you want me to find you an
academic paper regarding the BBC for an exception we should seek? Why would
I do this?

The question here is simple: Do we seek to acquire these files in the
interest of the general public or do we not bother to attempt this?

  -- とある白い猫  (To Aru Shiroi Neko)

On 12 July 2016 at 16:03, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 12 July 2016 at 12:22, とある白い猫  wrote:
>
> > I am not really interested in discussing general policy of the BBC etc.
> > regarding copyright at this point.
>
> Neither am I; I asked whether you could substantiate your claim that:
>
>   BBC and commercial providers can be compelled [to relinquish their
>   rights] on the basis of public interest
>
> If you cannot, I'm happy to leave things there.
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chilcot Report uses OGL

[Charles Matthews]

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:The_Report_of_the_Iraq_Inquiry_-_Executive_Summary.pdf
is work in progress.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chilcot Report uses OGL

[Andy Mabbett]

On 12 July 2016 at 16:17, Charles Matthews
 wrote:

>>Neither am I; I asked whether [...]

> WP:DTS

You have quoted me selectively; omitting: "If you cannot, I'm happy to
leave things there."

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chilcot Report uses OGL

[Charles Matthews]

> 
> On 12 July 2016 at 15:03 Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> 
> Neither am I; I asked whether [...]
> 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chilcot Report uses OGL

[Andy Mabbett]

On 12 July 2016 at 12:22, とある白い猫  wrote:

> I am not really interested in discussing general policy of the BBC etc.
> regarding copyright at this point.

Neither am I; I asked whether you could substantiate your claim that:

  BBC and commercial providers can be compelled [to relinquish their
  rights] on the basis of public interest

If you cannot, I'm happy to leave things there.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chilcot Report uses OGL

[とある白い猫]

I am not really interested in discussing general policy of the BBC etc.
regarding copyright at this point. I would kindly ask we discontinue
pursuing that line of questions.

Instead, I would like to point out the specific files that relate to the
Iraq Inquiry.[1] These are briefings that should be freely licensed in the
interest of the general public. I do not believe we should be discouraged
on how complex the process is. Regardless of how complex this may be, we
should attempt to the best of our abilities and available resources.

This is why I suggested seeking MPs to highlight the interests of the
general public and progress from there. I am under the impression that BBC
etc facilitated the recordings and own the intellectual property.

[1]:
http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/Search/?query==False=0=0=0=0=0===2


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On 10 July 2016 at 19:28, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 10 July 2016 at 09:26, とある白い猫  wrote:
>
> > BBC and commercial providers can be compelled on the basis of public
> > interest
>
> Can you provide a citation or case study to substantiate that claim?
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRPedia down?

[Roger Bamkin]

Andy, wmuks support seems very amateur. Is it worth pointing out that
they have a contract to keep it running. They seem to rely on the community
to spot errors and then fix them. They should be testing it every week and
fixing it without being prodded. Oh and hope you're OK. Cheers roger
On 6 Jul 2016 5:05 pm, "Andy Mabbett"  wrote:

> The URL:
>
>http://qrwp.org/The_Son_of_Man
>
> returns (for me)
>
>Sorry, but Wikipedia does not have the page
>"The_Son_of_Man" in your language (en). Please
> try reading the Google auto-translated version.
>
> Or read in one of the following languages:
>
> - The_Son_of_Man
>
> with the last line linked to:
>
>https://qrwp.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Son_of_Man
>
> which times out.
>
> Yet:
>
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Son_of_Man
>
> returns the expected article.
>
> What's broken?
>
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