Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
Actually, I've looked at this a bit more deeply and it appears it could be the same conference after all. It sounds like lots of people already have this in hand. To avoid duplication then, I'll leave it with you and concentrate on the film festival later in the year. Thank you, Stevie On 20 March 2014 23:00, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: Hi Joe, sounds like a grant applicationhttps://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Project_grantswould be worth making Regards Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/ Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 20 March 2014 18:49, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: I posted that page on the wikimania wiki so it is independent of your contact. The August SciFi conference at ExCel is Loncon3 - the World Science Fiction convention. It is the weekend after Wikimania. It is very well attended by authors so would be a good place to gather voice intros and even interviews. - It will have an exhibition hall with dealers tables, art exhibition, poster displays. Do we want a table there for our voice intro booth? - It will have a large program of panels on all kinds of stuff SF fans are interested in. Do we have a photographer interested in hanging out in the Green room taking pics of panel members? - It will have the Hugo award ceremony (If you buy membership you get to vote and you get a copy of most of the nominated works included in your membership). - It will have a multimedia stream and a music stream and a lot of hanging out in bars discussing stuff till late. Is WMUK interested in participating? Is WMUK interested in paying for memberships for volunteers who would be willing to man a booth? Loncon3 is starting to finalise their arrangements so we need to decide what we are interested in doing. Yours Joe On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Michael Peel michael.p...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: On 19 Mar 2014, at 16:01, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Perhaps something to be taken offlist with those interested, so we don't break any confidences? Or keep things on-list/on-wiki for transparency? I'd be potentially interested in helping do something here. With the August SciFi conference in London - I know one of the organising committee for that, and previously put them in touch with Ed/James/Saad to see if anything could be done. I'm not sure whether the page on the Wikimania wiki is related to that contact, or if it's an independent activity. If it is separate, then I'd be happy to provide another introduction here... Thanks, Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
I posted that page on the wikimania wiki so it is independent of your contact. The August SciFi conference at ExCel is Loncon3 - the World Science Fiction convention. It is the weekend after Wikimania. It is very well attended by authors so would be a good place to gather voice intros and even interviews. - It will have an exhibition hall with dealers tables, art exhibition, poster displays. Do we want a table there for our voice intro booth? - It will have a large program of panels on all kinds of stuff SF fans are interested in. Do we have a photographer interested in hanging out in the Green room taking pics of panel members? - It will have the Hugo award ceremony (If you buy membership you get to vote and you get a copy of most of the nominated works included in your membership). - It will have a multimedia stream and a music stream and a lot of hanging out in bars discussing stuff till late. Is WMUK interested in participating? Is WMUK interested in paying for memberships for volunteers who would be willing to man a booth? Loncon3 is starting to finalise their arrangements so we need to decide what we are interested in doing. Yours Joe On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Michael Peel michael.p...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: On 19 Mar 2014, at 16:01, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Perhaps something to be taken offlist with those interested, so we don't break any confidences? Or keep things on-list/on-wiki for transparency? I'd be potentially interested in helping do something here. With the August SciFi conference in London - I know one of the organising committee for that, and previously put them in touch with Ed/James/Saad to see if anything could be done. I'm not sure whether the page on the Wikimania wiki is related to that contact, or if it's an independent activity. If it is separate, then I'd be happy to provide another introduction here... Thanks, Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
Hi Joe, sounds like a grant applicationhttps://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Project_grantswould be worth making Regards Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 20 March 2014 18:49, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: I posted that page on the wikimania wiki so it is independent of your contact. The August SciFi conference at ExCel is Loncon3 - the World Science Fiction convention. It is the weekend after Wikimania. It is very well attended by authors so would be a good place to gather voice intros and even interviews. - It will have an exhibition hall with dealers tables, art exhibition, poster displays. Do we want a table there for our voice intro booth? - It will have a large program of panels on all kinds of stuff SF fans are interested in. Do we have a photographer interested in hanging out in the Green room taking pics of panel members? - It will have the Hugo award ceremony (If you buy membership you get to vote and you get a copy of most of the nominated works included in your membership). - It will have a multimedia stream and a music stream and a lot of hanging out in bars discussing stuff till late. Is WMUK interested in participating? Is WMUK interested in paying for memberships for volunteers who would be willing to man a booth? Loncon3 is starting to finalise their arrangements so we need to decide what we are interested in doing. Yours Joe On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Michael Peel michael.p...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: On 19 Mar 2014, at 16:01, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Perhaps something to be taken offlist with those interested, so we don't break any confidences? Or keep things on-list/on-wiki for transparency? I'd be potentially interested in helping do something here. With the August SciFi conference in London - I know one of the organising committee for that, and previously put them in touch with Ed/James/Saad to see if anything could be done. I'm not sure whether the page on the Wikimania wiki is related to that contact, or if it's an independent activity. If it is separate, then I'd be happy to provide another introduction here... Thanks, Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
Hello everyone, I'm aware that asking this question here may just cause my inbox to melt... I recently met with the organiser of a sci-fi film festival. As a part of the festival they have a big convention which is, I think, being held at the ExCel arena this year in London. It's early days but we're exploring the possibility of Wikimedia UK doing something within the convention. There will be lots of writers there, and sci-fi film folk. There's lots of scope for things, such as getting photos and sound files for Commons, editing training, an editathon... there's lots of potential. If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Thank you, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
This would be a good event to run a stall or wikilounge, perhaps with a live display of photos uploaded to Commons of the event. The English Wikipedia tends to have the topic well covered, though quality portraits are hard to get or artworks released. I follow sf authors and so would be interested in supporting a stall photography or helping with initial discussions. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
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On 19 March 2014 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Yes; interested in this generally, and from a voice-intro persepctive. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
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I've expressed my interest too off-list - this is really close to my house so it'd be lovely to attend. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 12:37, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 19 March 2014 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Yes; interested in this generally, and from a voice-intro persepctive. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
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We have a page for this onhttps://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Science_Fiction_Worldcon_in_London._August_14_to_18,_2014the Wikimania website, I suggest people who are interested go there and flesh that page out. The 14th to 18th August is very much part of the fringe of Wikimania and there will be some Wikimanians still in London, especially if there are SF fans coming. The final planning of this would be an interesting topic for a 30 minute slot https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissionsat Wikimania, both for interested parties to meet each other, finalise plans for the con and perhaps for other editors to add to the wishlist of recordings images or just sit in on the planning of such an event. Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 19 March 2014 12:57, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: I've expressed my interest too off-list - this is really close to my house so it'd be lovely to attend. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 12:37, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 19 March 2014 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Yes; interested in this generally, and from a voice-intro persepctive. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
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Can we add mention of this into the Wikimania calendar https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org.uk/document/d/1Rie5Zd4D-fF5zT9MYlX0mbCGO6-f0jnft0Kx4_vGSxk/editwe are creating please? Jon On 19 March 2014 14:29, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: We have a page for this onhttps://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Science_Fiction_Worldcon_in_London._August_14_to_18,_2014the Wikimania website, I suggest people who are interested go there and flesh that page out. The 14th to 18th August is very much part of the fringe of Wikimania and there will be some Wikimanians still in London, especially if there are SF fans coming. The final planning of this would be an interesting topic for a 30 minute slot https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissionsat Wikimania, both for interested parties to meet each other, finalise plans for the con and perhaps for other editors to add to the wishlist of recordings images or just sit in on the planning of such an event. Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 19 March 2014 12:57, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: I've expressed my interest too off-list - this is really close to my house so it'd be lovely to attend. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 12:37, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 19 March 2014 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Yes; interested in this generally, and from a voice-intro persepctive. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
I'm not sure that it's the same conference...? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 14:29, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: We have a page for this onhttps://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Science_Fiction_Worldcon_in_London._August_14_to_18,_2014the Wikimania website, I suggest people who are interested go there and flesh that page out. The 14th to 18th August is very much part of the fringe of Wikimania and there will be some Wikimanians still in London, especially if there are SF fans coming. The final planning of this would be an interesting topic for a 30 minute slot https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissionsat Wikimania, both for interested parties to meet each other, finalise plans for the con and perhaps for other editors to add to the wishlist of recordings images or just sit in on the planning of such an event. Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 19 March 2014 12:57, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: I've expressed my interest too off-list - this is really close to my house so it'd be lovely to attend. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 12:37, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 19 March 2014 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Yes; interested in this generally, and from a voice-intro persepctive. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
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Damn! But we can link o possible synergy I think. On 19 March 2014 14:40, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: I'm not sure that it's the same conference...? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 14:29, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: We have a page for this onhttps://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Science_Fiction_Worldcon_in_London._August_14_to_18,_2014the Wikimania website, I suggest people who are interested go there and flesh that page out. The 14th to 18th August is very much part of the fringe of Wikimania and there will be some Wikimanians still in London, especially if there are SF fans coming. The final planning of this would be an interesting topic for a 30 minute slot https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissionsat Wikimania, both for interested parties to meet each other, finalise plans for the con and perhaps for other editors to add to the wishlist of recordings images or just sit in on the planning of such an event. Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 19 March 2014 12:57, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I've expressed my interest too off-list - this is really close to my house so it'd be lovely to attend. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 12:37, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 19 March 2014 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Yes; interested in this generally, and from a voice-intro persepctive. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
Not the same conference, alas. But I will invite the festival organiser along to Wikimania. It will give him a sense of the kind of things that can be arranged. It's good to see so much interest in this. Once I have some more details I'll invite the festival organiser in for a coffee and to meet some folks form the community with a view to getting an event page up on the wiki. If my memory serves me correctly the festival and conference are in October / November. More to follow later. Thanks and regards, Stevie On 19 March 2014 14:42, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Damn! But we can link o possible synergy I think. On 19 March 2014 14:40, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: I'm not sure that it's the same conference...? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 14:29, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: We have a page for this onhttps://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Science_Fiction_Worldcon_in_London._August_14_to_18,_2014the Wikimania website, I suggest people who are interested go there and flesh that page out. The 14th to 18th August is very much part of the fringe of Wikimania and there will be some Wikimanians still in London, especially if there are SF fans coming. The final planning of this would be an interesting topic for a 30 minute slot https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissionsat Wikimania, both for interested parties to meet each other, finalise plans for the con and perhaps for other editors to add to the wishlist of recordings images or just sit in on the planning of such an event. Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 19 March 2014 12:57, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I've expressed my interest too off-list - this is really close to my house so it'd be lovely to attend. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 12:37, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 19 March 2014 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Yes; interested in this generally, and from a voice-intro persepctive. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*.
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
Yes - I'm not sure where Wikimania came in to the conversation! It's not anything to do with Wikimania! On 19 March 2014 14:52, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: Attending the convention in August is part of the fringe and I have added it as such, but I think that rather implies we might consider having a stall or something there? The Film festival is so long after Wikimania that I would treat it as a WMUK event outside of Wikimania Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 19 March 2014 14:42, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Damn! But we can link o possible synergy I think. On 19 March 2014 14:40, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I'm not sure that it's the same conference...? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 14:29, Jonathan Cardy jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: We have a page for this onhttps://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Science_Fiction_Worldcon_in_London._August_14_to_18,_2014the Wikimania website, I suggest people who are interested go there and flesh that page out. The 14th to 18th August is very much part of the fringe of Wikimania and there will be some Wikimanians still in London, especially if there are SF fans coming. The final planning of this would be an interesting topic for a 30 minute slot https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissionsat Wikimania, both for interested parties to meet each other, finalise plans for the con and perhaps for other editors to add to the wishlist of recordings images or just sit in on the planning of such an event. Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 19 March 2014 12:57, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I've expressed my interest too off-list - this is really close to my house so it'd be lovely to attend. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 12:37, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote: On 19 March 2014 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Yes; interested in this generally, and from a voice-intro persepctive. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
Sounds sensible, but before we do that, let's make sure we're talking about the same event... On 19 March 2014 15:59, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Hi Stevie, I'm already in discussion with somebody involved with the convention. We haven't got anything firm yet (there was going to be more conversation at the Coventry meetup on the 30th), so unless you've already made some headway, perhaps we should merge the conversations? Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell On Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I'm aware that asking this question here may just cause my inbox to melt... I recently met with the organiser of a sci-fi film festival. As a part of the festival they have a big convention which is, I think, being held at the ExCel arena this year in London. It's early days but we're exploring the possibility of Wikimedia UK doing something within the convention. There will be lots of writers there, and sci-fi film folk. There's lots of scope for things, such as getting photos and sound files for Commons, editing training, an editathon... there's lots of potential. If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Thank you, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
Perhaps something to be taken offlist with those interested, so we don't break any confidences? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 19 March 2014 16:01, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: Sounds sensible, but before we do that, let's make sure we're talking about the same event... On 19 March 2014 15:59, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Hi Stevie, I'm already in discussion with somebody involved with the convention. We haven't got anything firm yet (there was going to be more conversation at the Coventry meetup on the 30th), so unless you've already made some headway, perhaps we should merge the conversations? Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell On Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I'm aware that asking this question here may just cause my inbox to melt... I recently met with the organiser of a sci-fi film festival. As a part of the festival they have a big convention which is, I think, being held at the ExCel arena this year in London. It's early days but we're exploring the possibility of Wikimedia UK doing something within the convention. There will be lots of writers there, and sci-fi film folk. There's lots of scope for things, such as getting photos and sound files for Commons, editing training, an editathon... there's lots of potential. If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Thank you, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
Hi Stevie, I'm already in discussion with somebody involved with the convention. We haven't got anything firm yet (there was going to be more conversation at the Coventry meetup on the 30th), so unless you've already made some headway, perhaps we should merge the conversations? Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell On Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 11:02, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I'm aware that asking this question here may just cause my inbox to melt... I recently met with the organiser of a sci-fi film festival. As a part of the festival they have a big convention which is, I think, being held at the ExCel arena this year in London. It's early days but we're exploring the possibility of Wikimedia UK doing something within the convention. There will be lots of writers there, and sci-fi film folk. There's lots of scope for things, such as getting photos and sound files for Commons, editing training, an editathon... there's lots of potential. If anyone is interested in meeting with the convention / festival organiser do let me know and we'll see if we can set something up. Thank you, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?
On 19 Mar 2014, at 16:01, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Perhaps something to be taken offlist with those interested, so we don't break any confidences? Or keep things on-list/on-wiki for transparency? I'd be potentially interested in helping do something here. With the August SciFi conference in London - I know one of the organising committee for that, and previously put them in touch with Ed/James/Saad to see if anything could be done. I'm not sure whether the page on the Wikimania wiki is related to that contact, or if it's an independent activity. If it is separate, then I'd be happy to provide another introduction here... Thanks, Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
