Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Hong, Yongmin]

Forks are not updated automatically.

You wanted to mean mirror?

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2015. 7. 11. 오후 7:24에 "Federico Leva (Nemo)" 님이 작성:

> Ricordisamoa, 11/07/2015 10:19:
>
>> Forking is not copying.
>>
>
> It is. What you want to say is that it's not only that.
> Wiki lists of repositories never worked in a decade of attempts, but of
> course I can't stop you from the Nth failure. :)
> In the meanwhile I'm keeping lists at
> https://www.openhub.net/orgs/wikimedia
>
> Nemo
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Sam Wilson]

On 11/07/15 18:43, Ricordisamoa wrote:


Don't forget about 
https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/directory/#/keyword/wikisource!




Great idea! :) Thank you.

I've added http://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-cat-browser/toolinfo.json to 
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hay/directory



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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Ricordisamoa]

Il 11/07/2015 10:40, Sam Wilson ha scritto:



On 11/07/15 16:19, Ricordisamoa wrote:

Il 11/07/2015 10:09, Federico Leva (Nemo) ha scritto:

David Cuenca Tudela, 07/07/2015 07:51:

Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
https://github.com/Wikisource

Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official
repository for Wikisource scripts?


As there is interest by multiple people, I'd like to be an "admin" 
(owner?) there as well, so that I can copy ("fork") 
Wikisource-relevant repositories into it for the sake of 
discoverability.


Nemo



Forking is not copying.
Unexperienced people may think repositories hosted under the 
"Wikisource" organization are the 'official' and the most up-to-date 
versions. We'd end up like 
https://github.com/tool-labs/ricordisamoa-labs...

Why not to ask maintainers first?


I agree, I don't think it's a good idea for the org to have forks of 
elsewhere-updated repos. If they're Wikisource-specific things, then 
it'd be great to have the master repo under /wikisource (if the 
maintainer is keen).


For discoverability, I think a page on oldwikisource or meta, listing 
all Wikisource-related software, would be great. Then it wouldn't be 
limited to GitHub only, and the GitHub org could have it as it's 
homepage. (By the way, I set oldwikisource to be the org's homepage 
yesterday.)


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_software perhaps?


Don't forget about 
https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/directory/#/keyword/wikisource!




:)

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Ricordisamoa, 11/07/2015 10:19:

Forking is not copying.


It is. What you want to say is that it's not only that.
Wiki lists of repositories never worked in a decade of attempts, but of 
course I can't stop you from the Nth failure. :)
In the meanwhile I'm keeping lists at 
https://www.openhub.net/orgs/wikimedia


Nemo

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Sam Wilson]

On 11/07/15 16:19, Ricordisamoa wrote:

Il 11/07/2015 10:09, Federico Leva (Nemo) ha scritto:

David Cuenca Tudela, 07/07/2015 07:51:

Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
https://github.com/Wikisource

Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official
repository for Wikisource scripts?


As there is interest by multiple people, I'd like to be an "admin" 
(owner?) there as well, so that I can copy ("fork") 
Wikisource-relevant repositories into it for the sake of 
discoverability.


Nemo



Forking is not copying.
Unexperienced people may think repositories hosted under the 
"Wikisource" organization are the 'official' and the most up-to-date 
versions. We'd end up like 
https://github.com/tool-labs/ricordisamoa-labs...

Why not to ask maintainers first?


I agree, I don't think it's a good idea for the org to have forks of 
elsewhere-updated repos. If they're Wikisource-specific things, then 
it'd be great to have the master repo under /wikisource (if the 
maintainer is keen).


For discoverability, I think a page on oldwikisource or meta, listing 
all Wikisource-related software, would be great. Then it wouldn't be 
limited to GitHub only, and the GitHub org could have it as it's 
homepage. (By the way, I set oldwikisource to be the org's homepage 
yesterday.)


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_software perhaps?

:)

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Ricordisamoa]

Il 11/07/2015 10:09, Federico Leva (Nemo) ha scritto:

David Cuenca Tudela, 07/07/2015 07:51:

Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
https://github.com/Wikisource

Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official
repository for Wikisource scripts?


As there is interest by multiple people, I'd like to be an "admin" 
(owner?) there as well, so that I can copy ("fork") 
Wikisource-relevant repositories into it for the sake of discoverability.


Nemo



Forking is not copying.
Unexperienced people may think repositories hosted under the 
"Wikisource" organization are the 'official' and the most up-to-date 
versions. We'd end up like https://github.com/tool-labs/ricordisamoa-labs...

Why not to ask maintainers first?

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

David Cuenca Tudela, 07/07/2015 07:51:

Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
https://github.com/Wikisource

Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official
repository for Wikisource scripts?


As there is interest by multiple people, I'd like to be an "admin" 
(owner?) there as well, so that I can copy ("fork") Wikisource-relevant 
repositories into it for the sake of discoverability.


Nemo

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Cristian Consonni]

Ciao Alex,

2015-07-09 16:51 GMT+02:00 Alex Brollo :
> I feel github as a very difficult environment, recently I've been
> discouraged one more since I found that I can't install current version of
> the software into my PC, that runs Windows XP. Unluckily, both my skills and
> my hardware are poor.

A little clarification and some links for you.

GitHub is not an environment, it is just a website that, basically,
offer hosting for git repositories and other convenient
functionalities[*]. There are many such websites, for example
Bitbucket or GitLab/Gitorious. GitHub is very popular, it is backed by
a big company (which basically earns its money selling private hosting
space for (private) repositories) and for this reason they have
developed a GitHub dedicated GUI application for Windows that you can
use to interact with repositories on GitHub.

My point is, you don't actually need to use that application to work
with a git repository - whether it is hosted on GitHub, on a another
similar website/service or on your own server - you just need git on
Windows.

I have no experience about using git on Windows but from a quick
search the best project out there seems to be msygit
(), here you can find a guide[1]. If you
are used to SVN and TortoiseSVN I think that you may find
TortoiseGIT[2] more familiar.

HTH.

Ciao,

C
[1] https://nathanj.github.io/gitguide/tour.html
[2] https://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/
[*] Git is a version control system, and as such it does not have
access control (for example). if you need a way to discriminate who
can have read/write access to a given git repository you need to have
some software "in front" of your git repo to manage access control.
GitHub offer this kind of functionality (and a billion more)

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Alex Brollo]

Thanks Gaurav! I'll try it as soon as possible.
Alex

2015-07-09 22:01 GMT+02:00 Gaurav Vaidya :
>
>
> Github has one possible solution for this problem, called Gists (
> https://gist.github.com/) — a Gist is one or more files stored online and
> available for sharing or download with minimal information on who created
> them. Github tracks the version history of the files, who contributed to
> it, and allows any user to “fork” (duplicate) a Gist, while preserving the
> previous version history and linking back to the original Gist. That’s what
> I use to store and share code stubs! If you want to see what it looks like,
> here is a script I used to find a list of US places that had the same name
> as a state: https://gist.github.com/gaurav/1208725
>
> cheers,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Ricordisamoa]

Other Wikisource-related things on GitHub:

 * https://github.com/wsexport
 * https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Author-adder


Il 07/07/2015 07:51, David Cuenca Tudela ha scritto:

Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
https://github.com/Wikisource

Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official 
repository for Wikisource scripts?


Thanks!
Micru

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Gaurav Vaidya]

> On 9 Jul 2015, at 8:51 am, Alex Brollo  wrote:
> 
> I feel github as a very difficult environment, recently I've been discouraged 
> one more since I found that I can't install current version of the software 
> into my PC, that runs Windows XP. Unluckily, both my skills and my hardware 
> are poor. 
> 
> IMHO it could be an idea to couple github repository with one centralized 
> wikisource page (into oldwikisource?)  where to post "code stubs" far from 
> optimized, but sometimes running decent ideas, that could  inspire 
> sufficiently skilled programmers. 

Github has one possible solution for this problem, called Gists 
(https://gist.github.com/) — a Gist is one or more files stored online and 
available for sharing or download with minimal information on who created them. 
Github tracks the version history of the files, who contributed to it, and 
allows any user to “fork” (duplicate) a Gist, while preserving the previous 
version history and linking back to the original Gist. That’s what I use to 
store and share code stubs! If you want to see what it looks like, here is a 
script I used to find a list of US places that had the same name as a state: 
https://gist.github.com/gaurav/1208725 

cheers,
Gaurav
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Asaf Bartov]

(I don't have particular Wikisource code, but am comfortable with [and
active on] GitHub, so I'm happy to co-administrate the group, if needed.)

   A.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON  wrote:

>
>
> 2015-07-09 11:47 GMT+02:00 Nicolas VIGNERON :
>
>> 2015-07-09 11:22 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela :
>>
>>> @Nicolas: do you know this user? Could you ask him or her to add more
>>> participants to the repository so it becomes the official Wikisource github?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Micru
>>>
>>
>> No I don't know him/her/it but I just send a mail.
>>
>> In the other hand, I know Thibaut the second contributor (who was at
>> Wikimania Washington with Tpt and I think he is already on this list). I
>> send him a mail too.
>>
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>
>
> Thrasibule added Tpt. Thomas did you confirm ?
>
> Is someone else interrested? Thomas, can you add them?
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

2015-07-09 11:47 GMT+02:00 Nicolas VIGNERON :

> 2015-07-09 11:22 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela :
>
>> @Nicolas: do you know this user? Could you ask him or her to add more
>> participants to the repository so it becomes the official Wikisource github?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Micru
>>
>
> No I don't know him/her/it but I just send a mail.
>
> In the other hand, I know Thibaut the second contributor (who was at
> Wikimania Washington with Tpt and I think he is already on this list). I
> send him a mail too.
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>

Thrasibule added Tpt. Thomas did you confirm ?

Is someone else interrested? Thomas, can you add them?

Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Hong, Yongmin]

Wiki pages are not for code review. Proven by code reviewing extension from
mediawiki.org.

Wiki pages cannot do branch, merge, rebase, bisect, code review (+2~-2) etc
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2015. 7. 9. 오후 11:51에 "Alex Brollo" 님이 작성:

> I feel github as a very difficult environment, recently I've been
> discouraged one more since I found that I can't install current version of
> the software into my PC, that runs Windows XP. Unluckily, both my skills
> and my hardware are poor.
>
> IMHO it could be an idea to couple github repository with *one* centralized
> wikisource page (into oldwikisource?)  where to post "code stubs" far from
> optimized, but sometimes running decent ideas, that could  inspire
> sufficiently skilled programmers.
>
> Alex brollo
>
> 2015-07-09 11:47 GMT+02:00 Nicolas VIGNERON :
>
>> 2015-07-09 11:22 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela :
>>
>>> @Nicolas: do you know this user? Could you ask him or her to add more
>>> participants to the repository so it becomes the official Wikisource github?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Micru
>>>
>>
>> No I don't know him/her/it but I just send a mail.
>>
>> In the other hand, I know Thibaut the second contributor (who was at
>> Wikimania Washington with Tpt and I think he is already on this list). I
>> send him a mail too.
>>
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Alex Brollo]

I feel github as a very difficult environment, recently I've been
discouraged one more since I found that I can't install current version of
the software into my PC, that runs Windows XP. Unluckily, both my skills
and my hardware are poor.

IMHO it could be an idea to couple github repository with *one* centralized
wikisource page (into oldwikisource?)  where to post "code stubs" far from
optimized, but sometimes running decent ideas, that could  inspire
sufficiently skilled programmers.

Alex brollo

2015-07-09 11:47 GMT+02:00 Nicolas VIGNERON :

> 2015-07-09 11:22 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela :
>
>> @Nicolas: do you know this user? Could you ask him or her to add more
>> participants to the repository so it becomes the official Wikisource github?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Micru
>>
>
> No I don't know him/her/it but I just send a mail.
>
> In the other hand, I know Thibaut the second contributor (who was at
> Wikimania Washington with Tpt and I think he is already on this list). I
> send him a mail too.
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

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2015-07-09 11:22 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela :

> @Nicolas: do you know this user? Could you ask him or her to add more
> participants to the repository so it becomes the official Wikisource github?
>
> Thanks!
> Micru
>

No I don't know him/her/it but I just send a mail.

In the other hand, I know Thibaut the second contributor (who was at
Wikimania Washington with Tpt and I think he is already on this list). I
send him a mail too.

Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[David Cuenca Tudela]

@Nicolas: do you know this user? Could you ask him or her to add more
participants to the repository so it becomes the official Wikisource github?

Thanks!
Micru

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:05 AM, John Mark Vandenberg 
wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:15 PM, billinghurst 
> wrote:
> > Thrasibule appears to have uploaded to ocr-tools, so we can ask there
> for a
> > starter.
>
> Looks like they are most active on French Wikisource:
>
> https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Thrasibule
>
> (and have email enabled)
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[John Mark Vandenberg]

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:15 PM, billinghurst  wrote:
> Thrasibule appears to have uploaded to ocr-tools, so we can ask there for a
> starter.

Looks like they are most active on French Wikisource:

https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Thrasibule

(and have email enabled)

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[billinghurst]

Thrasibule appears to have uploaded to ocr-tools, so we can ask there for a
starter.

-- Billinghurst

On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 15:51 David Cuenca Tudela  wrote:

> Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
> https://github.com/Wikisource
>
> Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official repository
> for Wikisource scripts?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Github repository

[Andrea Zanni]

Also,
Amir created this great script that adds "wikilinks" within books on
Wikisource (right now, it adds the "Cited Author" template for found
authors, in Italian Wikisource, but it can easily adapted).
https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Author-adder

Github is hugely popular, and it would be very helpful to leave our code
there.

Aubrey

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Sam Wilson  wrote:

> That's a good idea. I'd never noticed it before. I could change ownership
> of this to it, if that was a good idea:
> https://github.com/samwilson/wikisource-cat-browser
>
> -sam.
>
> On Tue, July 7, 2015 1:51 pm, David Cuenca Tudela wrote:
> > Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
> > https://github.com/Wikisource
> >
> > Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official
> repository
> > for Wikisource scripts?
> >
> > Thanks!
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[Sam Wilson]

That's a good idea. I'd never noticed it before. I could change ownership
of this to it, if that was a good idea:
https://github.com/samwilson/wikisource-cat-browser

-sam.

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> Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
> https://github.com/Wikisource
>
> Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official repository
> for Wikisource scripts?
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[Wikisource-l] Github repository

[David Cuenca Tudela]

Does anybody know who is operating this repository?
https://github.com/Wikisource

Would it be possible to add more admins to make it the official repository
for Wikisource scripts?

Thanks!
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