[Wikitech-l] Integrating who's been awesome? functionality to MediaWiki

2012-03-03 Thread Eranga Mapa
Dear Mr James Alexander,

I am Eranga. I'm a 3rd year Computer Science and Engineering undergraduate
at University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka. I am interested in participating in
gsoc 2012 programme with MediaWiki. Currently I'm developing a multimedia
extension for MediaWiki which synchronize videos with other content. I went
through the gsoc idea list in MediaWiki  gsoc 2012 page. Among those ideas,
I'm interested in who's been awesome? idea which has been published by
you. I want to know weather someone is already working on this idea.If it
is still available, I'm keen to start development with it with your
support.

Thank You


Undergraduate Computer Science and Engineering
University of Moratuwa
Student Member IEEE
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Re: [Wikitech-l] diff colors

2012-03-03 Thread Erwin Dokter

On 03-03-2012 01:11, Trevor Parscal wrote:

Erwin - what you are seeing is very strange. I tried to re-create it, but
you have other styles conflicting and causing problems. For instance, the
use of red text for the changed text is gone int he latest code. You may
also have other strange styles which may be affecting layout. Attached is
how that changeset looked on my localhost.

- Trevor


The only styling that may be conflicting is the original core styling. 
I'll try to filter that out and post the result. BTW, my screenshot was 
taken with Chrome 17.


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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9919]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r9919 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9919

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r9919:

Removal of stuck debugging stuff

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9921]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r9921 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9921

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r9921:

Some code combing, PEP 8, nicer output even for non-English replacements, error 
handling. Nothing serious this time. :-)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] diff colors - Chrome bug

2012-03-03 Thread Erwin Dokter

On 03-03-2012 01:11, Trevor Parscal wrote:

Erwin - what you are seeing is very strange. I tried to re-create it, but
you have other styles conflicting and causing problems. For instance, the
use of red text for the changed text is gone int he latest code. You may
also have other strange styles which may be affecting layout. Attached is
how that changeset looked on my localhost.

- Trevor


The red font color was the only conflicting style. The misalignment is 
apparently a result of Chrome not handling the combined padding of the 
table cell and diffchange spans that contain one or more Tabs.


Static diff with tabs: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Edokter/vector.cssdiff=479860362oldid=479858926


Firefox does *not* show the problem. Even IE8 manages to display it 
correctly. So this is a Chrome bug we need to work around.


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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112932]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Peachey88 posted a comment on MediaWiki.r112932.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112932#c31761

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112932:

Initial revision of HidePrefix extension.

Peachey88's comment:

pre'url' = 'http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HidePrefix',/pre

Should be HTTPS.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Mantis:
http://www.mantisbt.org/

I'm not sure whether it has all the features that Wikimedia projects
need, but it does have good internationalization.

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http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬



2012/3/3 John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com:
 I'm currently investigating alternative bug tracker and project management
 software for MediaWiki. To do that I'll be installing some different
 software on the Labs and importing existing bugs for evaluation by the
 development team and users. The following software is planned for test:


   - JIRA http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview + Greenhopper +
   Bonfire
   - YouTrack http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
   - The Bug Genie http://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php
   - Redmine http://www.redmine.org/
   - ChiliProject https://www.chiliproject.org/

 If you have any suggestions for this list I'd be glad to hear it.

 Of course, this goes back to the original request. To do this I need a dump
 of the current Bugzilla install. Is it possible for me to get this and
 under what conditions? Thank you.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112931]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Peachey88 posted a comment on MediaWiki.r112931.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112931#c31762

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112931:

Fixed link to extension page; README fixed.

Peachey88's comment:

* tttrunk/extensions/Genderize/Genderize.php/tt
pre+  'url' = 'http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Genderize',/pre
Should be HTTPS

* tttrunk/extensions/Genderize/README/tt
pre+== Links ==
56  +
57  +* Extension page: 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Genderize
58  +* Author page:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Van_de_Bugger
59  +* License page:   http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html/pre
MW links should be HTTPS, as well as GNU (if they support it).

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112932]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Peachey88 posted a comment on MediaWiki.r112932.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112932#c31763

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112932:

Initial revision of HidePrefix extension.

Peachey88's comment:

also the author link.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating who's been awesome? functionality to MediaWiki

2012-03-03 Thread James Alexander
Thanks Eranga!

It's great to see people interested so early and I'd love to share some of
my ideas and see what yours are. This weekend I will get together the notes
and mockups I made earlier and send you an email offlist.

James

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Eranga Mapa erangam...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Mr James Alexander,

 I am Eranga. I'm a 3rd year Computer Science and Engineering undergraduate
 at University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka. I am interested in participating in
 gsoc 2012 programme with MediaWiki. Currently I'm developing a multimedia
 extension for MediaWiki which synchronize videos with other content. I went
 through the gsoc idea list in MediaWiki  gsoc 2012 page. Among those ideas,
 I'm interested in who's been awesome? idea which has been published by
 you. I want to know weather someone is already working on this idea.If it
 is still available, I'm keen to start development with it with your
 support.

 Thank You


 Undergraduate Computer Science and Engineering
 University of Moratuwa
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:11 AM, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm currently investigating alternative bug tracker and project management
 software for MediaWiki. To do that I'll be installing some different
 software on the Labs and importing existing bugs for evaluation by the
 development team and users. The following software is planned for test:

Haven't we already been around this circle a few times?

I seem to remember we even had a couple installed on the WMF servers
if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] diff colors - Chrome bug

2012-03-03 Thread Erwin Dokter

On 03-03-2012 09:35, Erwin Dokter wrote:

The red font color was the only conflicting style. The misalignment is
apparently a result of Chrome not handling the combined padding of the
table cell and diffchange spans that contain one or more Tabs.


To be more precise: any left-or right padding or border of the 
.diffchange will throw off the horizontal alignment in Chrome. The cell 
padding has no effect.


This can be fixed by moving the borders to top/bottom and removing any 
left/right padding from .diffchange.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 March 2012 09:12, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Mantis:
 http://www.mantisbt.org/
 I'm not sure whether it has all the features that Wikimedia projects
 need, but it does have good internationalization.


Mantis is opaque and hacky. I was put off working on our work
installation when, tracing a bug, I found a page which calls a
function which calls a function which calls a *page* which calls a
function which looks up an enum. Mantis: exemplary PHP. The only
reason I haven't installed something else is that all bugtrackers are
horrible to install, run or both. We've actually been moving a lot of
our bugtracking to pivotaltracker.com, where at least we have active
support.

tl;dr all software sucks, *especially* bug trackers.


- d.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r103751]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Duplicatebug posted a comment on MediaWiki.r103751.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/103751#c31764

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r103751:

In the spirit of r103745, guard against invalid user names in 
SpecialContributions and SpecialDeletedContributions by checking for invalidity 
early, then passing User objects around. Loosely based on Søren Løvborg's patch 
on bug 26854

Duplicatebug's comment:

The use of User::newFromName does not remove leading/trailing whitespaces, 
please have a look at bug 34889. Thanks.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112931]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Van de Bugger posted a comment on MediaWiki.r112931.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112931#c31765

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112931:

Fixed link to extension page; README fixed.

Van de Bugger's comment:

All the links changed to use https protocol (GNU site supports it).
Thanks.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r83286]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Duplicatebug posted a comment on MediaWiki.r83286.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/83286#c31766

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r83286:

(bug 27590) prop=imageinfo now allows querying the media type

Duplicatebug's comment:

for list=filearchive: bug 34927

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112932]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Van de Bugger posted a comment on MediaWiki.r112932.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112932#c31767

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112932:

Initial revision of HidePrefix extension.

Van de Bugger's comment:

All links updated. Thanks.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r110209]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Siebrand changed the status of MediaWiki.r110209 to new
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/110209

Old status:  resolved
New status: new

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r110209:

[Special:MovePage] Split new title input, fix bug 29454 (byteLimit), 
namespaceSelector

* Two reasons:
-- Limit bug: Limit can't be enforced if the two are together
because only page_title is limited, the namespace prefix
is not part of the title. Plus even then, there is still
ambiguity with the various ways to denote namespaces (aliases)
and whitespace freedom between namespace, colon and title.
-- Extra feature: Now that the two are separate it' s easier
for users to move across namespaces as one doesn't have to type,
can't make spelling mistakes. Also, in the future we could exclude
certain target namespaces that are not possible or not allowed (now one can
perfectly submit a request to move from NS_CATEGORY or NS_FILE, only to
get a warning on submission). By showing them disabled in the drop down
this becomes clearer).

* Keeps backwards compatibility for gadgets and permalinks generated
by templates on wikis so that they can still pre-set the new title
from a url the old way. The new way can also be pre-set from the url,
and allows them to be set separately (wpNewTitleNs=10wpNewTitleMain=Infobox)
* Gadgets and templates linking to Special:MovePage with a preset target
-- Old way (still works): wpNewTitle=Template:Infobox
-- New way: wpNewTitleNs=10 (and/or) wpNewTitleMain=Infobox

* Fixes bug 29454; Depends on r109990;
-- (bug 29454) Enforce byteLimit for page title input on Special:MovePage

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112945]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Amire80 changed the status of MediaWiki.r112945 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112945

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112945:

typo fixes for 
http://education.wmflabs.org/index.php/Thread:MW_1.18_talk:Community_portal/it's_-_its

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Chad
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:03 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 tl;dr all software sucks, *especially* bug trackers.


Agreed. I've never found a bug tracker that I actually *liked*
using. Bugzilla happens to be the one I just hate the least.

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Merlijn van Deen
On 3 March 2012 02:11, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:

   - JIRA http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview + Greenhopper +
   Bonfire
   - YouTrack http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
   - The Bug Genie http://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php
   - Redmine http://www.redmine.org/
   - ChiliProject https://www.chiliproject.org/


Roundup  http://roundup.sourceforge.net/ , the tracker used for
http://bugs.python.org, might also be a candidate to consider. It's one of
the bug trackers I find least annoying to use . However, wouldn't adapting
Bugzilla to be less annoying be a more sensible option? Converting bugs
always is somewhat annoying.

Best,
Merlijn
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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9963]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r9963 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9963

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r9963:

Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112948]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of MediaWiki.r112948 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112948

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112948:

FIx r112907. Should have been the other way around.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112907]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of MediaWiki.r112907 to resolved
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112907

Old status:  new
New status: resolved

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112907:

Follow-up r112439 per code review.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9513]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r9513 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9513

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r9513:

More consistency updates.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9511]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r9511 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9511

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r9511:

Use [Rr]obot consistently.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112946]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Amire80 changed the status of MediaWiki.r112946 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112946

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112946:

address 
http://education.wmflabs.org/index.php/Thread:MW_1.18_talk:Community_portal/Become_an_Campus_Ambassador;

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r7538]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r7538 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/7538

Old status:  old
New status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r7538:

english grammar in help, +ksh

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r7524]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r7524 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/7524

Old status:  old
New status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r7524:

Grammatical corrections in help text.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r109848]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Duplicatebug posted a comment on MediaWiki.r109848.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/109848#c31769

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r109848:

Add the new SHA1 revision field to the XML export, add SHA1 field to 
export-0.6.xsd and fix namespace element from string to integer.

Duplicatebug's comment:

Why adding the sha1 in ttopenPage/tt? The xsd entry is for the revision, 
than you have to add the sha1 in method ttwriteRevision/tt.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread John Du Hart
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote:
 However, wouldn't adapting
 Bugzilla to be less annoying be a more sensible option? Converting bugs
 always is somewhat annoying.

I agree however there's only so much that can be done to improve
Bugzilla. BZ itself is only built to be a bugtracker, however it seems
that we are starting to need more features such as scrum (since teams
using that now use a different piece of software).

-- 
John

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r107636]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
P.Copp posted a comment on MediaWiki.r107636.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/107636#c31770

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r107636:

* Moved post-deletion code from WikiPage::doDeleteArticle() to 
WikiPage::doDeleteUpdates() so that it can be shared with page move
* Use WikiPage::doEditUpdates() and WikiPage::onArticleDelete() to do updates 
instead of reimplementing the whole thing in Title::moveTo(); avoids some bugs 
since the implementation differs from the one from WikiPage (notably the page 
and article count). This adds some more cache clearing, but they are needed 
depending on parameters (e.g. if the redirect is not created).

P.Copp's comment:

Possibly caused [[bugzilla:34937]]

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9085]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt posted a comment on pywikipedia.r9085.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9085#c31771

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r9085:

* Korean xliteration (2 new chars)

Xqt's comment:

No for-statement needed for one char only

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r8348]: New comment added, and revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r8348 to ok and commented it.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/8348#c31772

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r8348:

in some of wikis use bot argument for mark

Xqt's comment:

L10N needed

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r8374]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r8374 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/8374

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r8374:

error correction: n-dash transliterated as o instead of -

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9173]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r9173 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9173

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Do not keep asking after the first give up

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r8845]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Xqt changed the status of pywikipedia.r8845 to old
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/8845

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Added unit tests for i18n functions

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[Wikitech-l] PHP 5.4 has been released

2012-03-03 Thread Thomas Gries
FYI: http://www.php.net/archive/2012.php#id2012-03-01-1




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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 5.4 has been released

2012-03-03 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote:
 FYI: http://www.php.net/archive/2012.php#id2012-03-01-1


 Exciting! Lots of cool new things in 5.4.


And we will not be able to use them in core for next five years
because of shared hosting compatibility. Yay!

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[Wikitech-l] kkwiki needs help with JS and CSS

2012-03-03 Thread Mark A. Hershberger

[[User:Bolatbek]] has asked for help on kkwiki with styles and
Javascript.  Since my ability to help in these areas is limited, I'm
putting this out to wikitech-l:

It looks like (some?) infoboxes are right-aligned now.  See, for
example, [[kk:Қазақстан]]: http://hexm.de/g6

You can find reports of more problems on his talk page, especially this
bit:  https://kk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=870529oldid=495994

Thanks.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112953]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Aaron Schulz changed the status of MediaWiki.r112953 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112953

Old status:  new
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Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112953:

Change some DatabaseBase::query() calls to use more specific methods

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112951]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Aaron Schulz changed the status of MediaWiki.r112951 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112951

Old status:  new
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Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112951:

* (bug 34937) Fix for r107636: call WikiPage::onArticleCreate() when moving a 
page an not overriding the redirect

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Antoine Musso

Le 03/03/12 02:11, John Du Hart a écrit :

I'm currently investigating alternative bug tracker and project management
software for MediaWiki. To do that I'll be installing some different
software on the Labs and importing existing bugs for evaluation by the
development team and users.


Hello John,

I beg you to first establish a list of requirements and features we are 
looking after.  You do not want to invest any time installing a software 
we could dismiss right away just by looking at its specs (see at the 
bottom of this mail for examples).


Let me ask you a question, why do you feel we should move to another bug 
tracker?

Do you think that Bugzilla is missing features we could use?
For example, maybe some bug tracker also assist in planning release 
management.  I know Mantis has a nice interface for that.
Is that because other tools have a nicer interface? We could probably 
enhance the Bugzilla one.


I am not a huge fan of Bugzilla. It is certainly lagging in terms of 
neat features lack reporting and ease of navigation between components. 
But so far, Bugzilla seems to fit our needs nicely.



As for testing there is probably no point in loading our existing bugs 
since close to nobody, beside hexmode, know our bugs well enough to take 
advantage of it.  Instead we can use some demo accounts or just install 
a version for sandboxing purposes. Both way would be easier than 
investing time in migrating bugs to some other tracker.


If you want some bugs, you can try out Bugzilla JSON interface which is 
used to generate the release reports. Entry point is:

  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/jsonrpc.cgi

Guillaume wrote a blog post about bug tracker, you might want to have a 
look at it:

http://www.gpaumier.org/blog/520_scaling-up-software-development-for-wikimedia-websites-tools/


Find below my comments about the proposed softwares:


The following software is planned for test:

 - JIRAhttp://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
+ Greenhopper + Bonfire


I guess it was installed on Toolserver just because it was written in 
Java, a language that River Tarnell like.

Anyway, I would dismiss it just because that is a proprietary software.



- YouTrackhttp://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/


Proprietary software as well.


- Redminehttp://www.redmine.org/
- ChiliProjecthttps://www.chiliproject.org/


The later being a fork of the former. Both are written in ruby which, as 
far as I know, our operation team do not want to hear about on our 
production cluster.



 - The Bug Geniehttp://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php
Demo:
http://www.opensourcecms.com/demo/1/259/The+Bug+Genie



If you have any suggestions for this list I'd be glad to hear it.


Have a look at mantis http://www.mantisbt.org/ :-) I like it a lot.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112950]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Reedy changed the status of MediaWiki.r112950 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112950

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112950:

Updating svn:mime-type, follow up to r112875.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112954]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Aaron Schulz changed the status of MediaWiki.r112954 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112954

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112954:

* Removed check for invalid object in formatResult(), Title::makeTitle() always 
returns an object
* Don't call Title::exists() when result is not cached since the page must 
exist, and this was issuing a database query per row
* Reorder some variables for better clarity
* Don't execute the LinkBatch if there are now rows
* Call methods directly on ResultWrapper instead of DatabaseBase in 
preprocessResults()
* Use local context to get message

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Merlijn van Deen
On 3 March 2012 20:20, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Anyway, I would dismiss it just because that is a proprietary software.

I never quite understand this argument. What is wrong with using
proprietary software if it's the best software you can use?  Or, to turn it
around: Why force your developers to work with suboptimal software /just
because/ it's open source?

Best,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread John Du Hart
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote:
 On 3 March 2012 20:20, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Anyway, I would dismiss it just because that is a proprietary software.

 I never quite understand this argument. What is wrong with using
 proprietary software if it's the best software you can use?  Or, to turn it
 around: Why force your developers to work with suboptimal software /just
 because/ it's open source?

 Best,
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I agree with that, just because it's proprietary doesn't mean we can't
consider it.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112960]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Aaron Schulz changed the status of MediaWiki.r112960 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112960

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112960:

DatabaseBase::selectRow() return a simple object, not a ResultWrapper instance

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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 5.4 has been released

2012-03-03 Thread Antoine Musso

Le 03/03/12 18:43, Thomas Gries a écrit :

FYI: http://www.php.net/archive/2012.php#id2012-03-01-1


I would get it just for the shorter array syntax =)

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r66638]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
QChris posted a comment on MediaWiki.r66638.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/66638#c31773

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r66638:

* Remove compatibility code for pre-5.1 versions of PHP
* Re-connect to db after error in strencode()

QChris's comment:

The log message says to remove pre-5.1 versions of PHP, but kills a guard for 
5.0.13 of /MySQL/.

Current INSTALL file lists = MySQL-4.0.14 as requirement. So for users of 
MySQL between 4.0.14 and 5.0.(1)3, this yields an additional connection attempt.
But I assume the code is not executed often enough and the user base for those 
versions is too small to be relevant ;)

(If there are relevant users for those versions, the MySQL ChangeLog reports 
the change in default reconnection settings in version 5.0.3, not 5.0.13; just 
in case some problems arise between those versions)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 5.4 has been released

2012-03-03 Thread Chad
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
 Le 03/03/12 18:43, Thomas Gries a écrit :

 FYI: http://www.php.net/archive/2012.php#id2012-03-01-1


 I would get it just for the shorter array syntax =)


Those 5 extra characters must be a real burden to type ;-)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Tomasz Finc
Didn't robla do this same analysis about a year ago? Are his notes up
somewhere so that we don't waste time on solutions that simply won't work.
Finding those could make this go way faster. Adjusted for whatever has
changed in the projects since his review of course.
02-03-2012 17:11 użytkownik John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com napisał:

 I'm currently investigating alternative bug tracker and project management
 software for MediaWiki. To do that I'll be installing some different
 software on the Labs and importing existing bugs for evaluation by the
 development team and users. The following software is planned for test:


   - JIRA http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview + Greenhopper +
   Bonfire
   - YouTrack http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
   - The Bug Genie http://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php
   - Redmine http://www.redmine.org/
   - ChiliProject https://www.chiliproject.org/

 If you have any suggestions for this list I'd be glad to hear it.

 Of course, this goes back to the original request. To do this I need a dump
 of the current Bugzilla install. Is it possible for me to get this and
 under what conditions? Thank you.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread John Du Hart
On Mar 3, 2012 2:20 PM, Antoine Musso hashar
hashar%2b...@free.fr+hashar%2b...@free.fr
wmf hashar%2b...@free.fr@
hashar%2b...@free.frfree.frhashar%2b...@free.fr
wrote:

 Le 03/03/12 02:11, John Du Hart a écrit :

 I'm currently investigating alternative bug tracker and project
management
 software for MediaWiki. To do that I'll be installing some different
 software on the Labs and importing existing bugs for evaluation by the
 development team and users.


 Hello John,

 I beg you to first establish a list of requirements and features we are
looking after.  You do not want to invest any time installing a software we
could dismiss right away just by looking at its specs (see at the bottom of
this mail for examples).


Fair enough. I think what I'm looking for is a bug tracker that is more
easier to use for both developers and users. I would also like tools that
allow us to better visualize progress on bugs and what's fixed or needed
for a released. Finally an API that doesn't suck would be nice

 Let me ask you a question, why do you feel we should move to another bug
tracker?
 Do you think that Bugzilla is missing features we could use?
 For example, maybe some bug tracker also assist in planning release
management.  I know Mantis has a nice interface for that.
 Is that because other tools have a nicer interface? We could probably
enhance the Bugzilla one.

 I am not a huge fan of Bugzilla. It is certainly lagging in terms of neat
features lack reporting and ease of navigation between components. But so
far, Bugzilla seems to fit our needs nicely.


But I'm sure we could do better!

 As for testing there is probably no point in loading our existing bugs
since close to nobody, beside hexmode, know our bugs well enough to take
advantage of it.  Instead we can use some demo accounts or just install a
version for sandboxing purposes. Both way would be easier than investing
time in migrating bugs to some other tracker.


I disagree. I think that if the software supports an importer it wouldn't
hurt to use it for the demo.

 If you want some bugs, you can try out Bugzilla JSON interface which is
used to generate the release reports. Entry point is:
  https:// https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/jsonrpc.cgi
bugzilla.wikimedia.org
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/jsonrpc.cgi/https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/jsonrpc.cgi
jsonrpc.cgi https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/jsonrpc.cgi


Again most of the software supports an import via a database dump so I'd
rather use that.

 Guillaume wrote a blog post about bug tracker, you might want to have a
look at it:
 http://http://www.gpaumier.org/blog/520_scaling-up-software-development-for-wikimedia-websites-tools/
www.gpaumier.orghttp://www.gpaumier.org/blog/520_scaling-up-software-development-for-wikimedia-websites-tools/
/blog/520_scaling-up-software-development-for-http://www.gpaumier.org/blog/520_scaling-up-software-development-for-wikimedia-websites-tools/
wikimediahttp://www.gpaumier.org/blog/520_scaling-up-software-development-for-wikimedia-websites-tools/
-websites-tools/http://www.gpaumier.org/blog/520_scaling-up-software-development-for-wikimedia-websites-tools/


Interesting. Again, it seems we're in agreement for the need of a better
project management tool.


 Find below my comments about the proposed softwares:

 The following software is planned for test:

  - JIRAhttp:// http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
www.atlassian.com http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
/software/ 
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overviewjirahttp://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
/overview http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
 + Greenhopper + Bonfire


 I guess it was installed on Toolserver just because it was written in
Java, a language that River Tarnell like.
 Anyway, I would dismiss it just because that is a proprietary software.


- YouTrackhttp:// http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
www.jetbrains.com
http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack//http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
youtrack 
http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack//http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/



 Proprietary software as well.

Like I replied earlier, this is not a major concern.

- Redminehttp:// 
 http://www.redmine.org/www.redmine.org/http://www.redmine.org/

- ChiliProjecthttps:// https://www.chiliproject.org/
www.chiliproject.org/ https://www.chiliproject.org/


 The later being a fork of the former. Both are written in ruby which, as
far as I know, our operation team do not want to hear about on our
production cluster.



Fair enough.


  - The Bug Geniehttp:// http://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php
www.thebuggenie.com
http://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php/http://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php
index.php http://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php
 Demo:
 http:// http://www.opensourcecms.com/demo/1/259/The+Bug+Genie
www.opensourcecms.comhttp://www.opensourcecms.com/demo/1/259/The+Bug+Genie
/demo/1/259/The+Bug+Geniehttp://www.opensourcecms.com/demo/1/259/The+Bug+Genie



 If you 

Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Chad
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
 As for testing there is probably no point in loading our existing bugs since
 close to nobody, beside hexmode, know our bugs well enough to take advantage
 of it.  Instead we can use some demo accounts or just install a version for
 sandboxing purposes. Both way would be easier than investing time in
 migrating bugs to some other tracker.


I'm going to have to disagree here. There's quite a few of us who've
been around here for ages and have more than a passing knowledge
of what's in Bugzilla.

Then again, I'm fine with the status quo so I'm not volunteering to
test anyway.

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 March 2012 19:20, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Have a look at mantis http://www.mantisbt.org/ :-) I like it a lot.


Have you ever fixed it when it's broken? Anything looks good when it's
working, but I've found the experience of trying to bugfix a broken
Mantis horrible.

If Bugzilla mostly works and its breakages have so far been fixable
in-house, that's a *powerful* advantage right there, and it would take
really quite strong reasons to move.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 March 2012 20:23, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with that, just because it's proprietary doesn't mean we can't
 consider it.


It's a seriously strong point in its disfavour.


- d.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9085]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Malafaya posted a comment on pywikipedia.r9085.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9085#c31774

Commit summary for pywikipedia.r9085:

* Korean xliteration (2 new chars)

Malafaya's comment:

True. I kept the form used throughout the file for uniformity sake. There are 
other lines of code with one char and a for statement.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread John Du Hart
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3 March 2012 20:23, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with that, just because it's proprietary doesn't mean we can't
 consider it.


 It's a seriously strong point in its disfavour.


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I really don't understand why we'd rather suffer than use a superior
proprietary product.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread John Du Hart
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Then again, I'm fine with the status quo so I'm not volunteering to
 test anyway.


Oops too late, already had you down ;)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Chad
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
 I beg you to first establish a list of requirements and features we are
 looking after.  You do not want to invest any time installing a software we
 could dismiss right away just by looking at its specs (see at the bottom of
 this mail for examples).


While we're talking about requirements--let me say that something I'd
ike to see if we move bugtrackers is LDAP support (does BZ have this?).
We're moving more and more tech services to LDAP, so it would make
sense to integrate our bugtracker there as well.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Chad
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
 I beg you to first establish a list of requirements and features we are
 looking after.  You do not want to invest any time installing a software we
 could dismiss right away just by looking at its specs (see at the bottom of
 this mail for examples).


 While we're talking about requirements--let me say that something I'd
 ike to see if we move bugtrackers is LDAP support (does BZ have this?).
 We're moving more and more tech services to LDAP, so it would make
 sense to integrate our bugtracker there as well.


Answered my own question--yes BZ does support LDAP out of the
box, no plugins required.

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating who's been awesome? functionality to MediaWiki

2012-03-03 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
James, thanks for your responsiveness! But please do that response
onlist so it's easy to link to  for other people to chime in. :-)

Eranga, tell us more about your multimedia extension for MediaWiki that
synchronizes videos with other content!  A link to the extension would
be great.

Thanks,

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Volunteer Development Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation


On 03/03/2012 01:14 AM, James Alexander wrote:
 Thanks Eranga!
 
 It's great to see people interested so early and I'd love to share some of
 my ideas and see what yours are. This weekend I will get together the notes
 and mockups I made earlier and send you an email offlist.
 
 James
 
 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Eranga Mapa erangam...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Mr James Alexander,

 I am Eranga. I'm a 3rd year Computer Science and Engineering undergraduate
 at University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka. I am interested in participating in
 gsoc 2012 programme with MediaWiki. Currently I'm developing a multimedia
 extension for MediaWiki which synchronize videos with other content. I went
 through the gsoc idea list in MediaWiki  gsoc 2012 page. Among those ideas,
 I'm interested in who's been awesome? idea which has been published by
 you. I want to know weather someone is already working on this idea.If it
 is still available, I'm keen to start development with it with your
 support.

 Thank You


 Undergraduate Computer Science and Engineering
 University of Moratuwa
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 March 2012 22:44, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really don't understand why we'd rather suffer than use a superior
 proprietary product.


https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Values

Duplicability down to the infrastructure is considered extremely
important, or the free content isn't free. Open core fails this
test.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 March 2012 23:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3 March 2012 22:44, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really don't understand why we'd rather suffer than use a superior
 proprietary product.

 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Values
 Duplicability down to the infrastructure is considered extremely
 important, or the free content isn't free. Open core fails this
 test.


(I will note that the Foundation has used nonfree software in
infrastructure, e.g. Java before it was freed, Solaris 10 - but only
on the way to something free.)


- d.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Antoine Musso

John Du Hart wrote:

I really don't understand why we'd rather suffer than use a superior
proprietary product.


I have been using Linux as a main platform for years and eventually was 
fed up with the graphical interface. I switched to Mac which, with Aqua, 
has the best ergonomy around (gnome 3 kde 4 were epic failures).


So, indeed, I sometime stop being idealist and get pragmatic.

The reason I am dismissing proprietary product is probably because we 
have been building Wikipedia on top of free software stack for the last 
11 years.  I clearly remember someone being trolled out of an IRC 
channel just because he suggested to use some Java software, then 
non-free software.


It might change. But I would prefer having us sticking to FOSS.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread John Du Hart
It's a bug tracker. It's not critical to the operation of a clone and can
be replaced. In fact, some teams are using mingle which is a proprietary
agile project manager.
On Mar 3, 2012 6:26 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3 March 2012 22:44, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:

  I really don't understand why we'd rather suffer than use a superior
  proprietary product.


 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Values

 Duplicability down to the infrastructure is considered extremely
 important, or the free content isn't free. Open core fails this
 test.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Antoine Musso

Le 03/03/12 23:37, David Gerard a écrit :
snip

Have you ever fixed it when it's broken? Anything looks good when it's
working, but I've found the experience of trying to bugfix a broken
Mantis horrible.


Luckily, I had people fixing my bug reports :-)


If Bugzilla mostly works and its breakages have so far been fixable
in-house, that's a *powerful* advantage right there, and it would take
really quite strong reasons to move.


My point. I do not think there is anything better for us than Bugzilla.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread John Du Hart
I know you don't think that currently however I would like the opportunity
to convince you otherwise.
On Mar 3, 2012 6:35 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Le 03/03/12 23:37, David Gerard a écrit :
 snip

 Have you ever fixed it when it's broken? Anything looks good when it's
 working, but I've found the experience of trying to bugfix a broken
 Mantis horrible.


 Luckily, I had people fixing my bug reports :-)

  If Bugzilla mostly works and its breakages have so far been fixable
 in-house, that's a *powerful* advantage right there, and it would take
 really quite strong reasons to move.


 My point. I do not think there is anything better for us than Bugzilla.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 March 2012 23:52, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mar 3, 2012 6:35 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 My point. I do not think there is anything better for us than Bugzilla.

 I know you don't think that currently however I would like the opportunity
 to convince you otherwise.


Which one are you involved with?


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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112752]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Randomfvideos posted a comment on MediaWiki.r112752.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112752#c31775

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112752:

Refactored checks to see if we should be displaying the MobileFrontend view and 
removed dependency on looking for /only/ x-device headers so we handle 
previously unhandled cases where a user is using useformat=mobile; As part of 
refactor added methods to check if a user is coming from a mobile device 
(denoted by presense of x-device headers) or if a user is coming from a 'faux' 
mobile device (when using something like useformat=mobile); Added query string 
handling for mobile URL construction; Added corresponding tests; Added some 
additional cleanup to the tearDown routine in tests to unset x-device headers 
and refresh the value of ExtMobileFrontend:: to its default state.

Randomfvideos's comment:

What is this about?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread John Du Hart
I don't understand the question. Are you implying that I have some sort of
relationship with one of these vendors? If that's the case then I'd like to
inform you that's not the case. My motive here is giving developers and
users access to better tools so that we can make a better product.
On Mar 3, 2012 7:08 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3 March 2012 23:52, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mar 3, 2012 6:35 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

  My point. I do not think there is anything better for us than Bugzilla.

  I know you don't think that currently however I would like the
 opportunity
  to convince you otherwise.


 Which one are you involved with?


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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112964]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
SPQRobin changed the status of MediaWiki.r112964 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112964

Old status:  new
New status: ok

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112964:

Localisation update for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112952]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
SPQRobin changed the status of MediaWiki.r112952 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112952

Old status:  new
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Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112952:

Simplify description message.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112933]: Revision status changed

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
SPQRobin changed the status of MediaWiki.r112933 to ok
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112933

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi John,

I'm happy that you're looking at this, because I can't say that I'm
thrilled with Bugzilla, and I'd be happy to see a better alternative
to it.  However, I also kinda agree with Chad: it's not that I love
Bugzilla, but rather we haven't yet found a system that's better
enough to invest in a migration.  That's been the state of things for
so long that it's very easy to get cynical about it.  That said, I'm
keeping an open mind, and I'm intrigued by one of your suggestions
(Bug Genie).  More on that in a bit.

One requirement I would like to place on a new system, should we go
there, is that it support Wikimedia SUL in some form.  I realize that
Bugzilla doesn't support this, but the point behind this requirement
would be that if we're going to go through a painful migration,
integration with our existing login system needs to be one of the
benefits.  It might mean that this project come behind some form of
OpenID provider support on the Wikimedia cluster.

More inline...

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:11 PM, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm currently investigating alternative bug tracker and project management
 software for MediaWiki. To do that I'll be installing some different
 software on the Labs and importing existing bugs for evaluation by the
 development team and users. The following software is planned for test:


   - JIRA http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview + Greenhopper +
   Bonfire

I've got a lot of experience with JIRA that I'm happy to share
offlist.  Since this has partially devolved into a discussion about
open vs proprietary, I think you should read this:
http://www.atlassian.com/licensing/license

...and not install it until you have.  There will be a test  ;-)

Generally, it's going to take a lot to convince me that a proprietary
solution is going to work for us.

   - YouTrack http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
   - The Bug Genie http://www.thebuggenie.com/index.php
   - Redmine http://www.redmine.org/
   - ChiliProject https://www.chiliproject.org/

Redmine is the one that was the frontrunner the last evaluation we did in 2010:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tracker/PM_tool

There's possibly some other stuff to look at on the 2010 list.

As I alluded to, I'm intrigued by The Bug Genie.  Looks like it's
PHP-based open source, under active development for 10 years, and that
they've put some thought into the UI.  I don't think that one came up
in our last eval, but it probably should have.  I'd encourage you to
nudge that one higher on your list.

 Of course, this goes back to the original request. To do this I need a dump
 of the current Bugzilla install. Is it possible for me to get this and
 under what conditions? Thank you.

There's some confidential information in there, so possibly an NDA.
I'll talk to Sumana on Monday about this.

One thing that I would ask of you, though, is to be mindful of our
community's actual capacity for disruptive change and
development/operations capacity in general.  The reason why we dropped
this project back in 2010 was that it became clear that we were trying
to do too many things in parallel, and not doing any of those things
well.  While WMF has more capacity, and you're helping out by
volunteering this work, we still might not have capacity for this
project.  Even if you do a lot of the work, it will be both a
disruption for others, as well as a fair amount of work for others.

Given we're smack dab in the middle of an incredibly disruptive change
(migrating from SVN to Git), it seems like this might be the wrong
time to do anything more than experiments.  So, that's not to say
don't evaluate other systems, but just be mindful that success might
still mean waiting until late 2012 or even 2013 for the project to
really begin in earnest.  If you're ok with that, then I say great!
If that sounds like way too long to wait after doing a lot of work,
then I'd caution against starting.

Rob

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Re: [Wikitech-l] install php-fss on php 5.3

2012-03-03 Thread Tim Starling
On 03/03/12 02:00, Yury Katkov wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 I want to install php module php-fss on php5.3 since I heard that it boosts
 MediaWiki performance a lot. Is it possible to do that? Is it installed on
 wikipedias?

Prior to r82645, FSS was used in the wikitext parser for expanding
tags like nowiki and ref. Installing FSS sped up this phase
significantly. In MediaWiki 1.18 and later this is no longer the case,
that part of the parser was rewritten to be fast whether or not FSS is
installed.

There are still a few uses of FSS in MediaWiki and its extensions:

* Malayalam and Arabic character set normalisation
* Chinese and Serbian variant conversion
* Parsing edit section links (MWTidy)
* Extensions: AbuseFilter, LiquidThreads, FCKeditor and Transliterator

You probably won't get enough of a performance benefit to make it
worthwhile unless you are using one of the four content languages
mentioned above or Transliterator.

The installation procedure is the same as any PHP extension, i.e.

phpize
./configure
make
sudo make install

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com writes:

 Fair enough. I think what I'm looking for is a bug tracker that is more
 easier to use for both developers and users. I would also like tools that
 allow us to better visualize progress on bugs and what's fixed or needed
 for a released. Finally an API that doesn't suck would be nice

I'm not about to argue for the user-friendliness of Bugzilla or
visualization that it offers.  However, I have used the API extensively
and, while I do agree that there are areas it could be improved, I've
found it useful for most things.

Hack-ability is a big benefit here.  Lots of other people use Bugzilla
and adapt it to their needs.  Some of those changes get incorporated
into the core.

Mozilla, for instance, created MediaWiki integration that might help
with visualization:
http://lawrencemandel.com/2012/02/23/embed-bugzilla-data-in-wikimo-pages/

(This was later disabled because of the load on Bugzilla, but I think it
is a start. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/731672.)

And the Mozilla has certainly shown that Bugzilla's UI (at least for
entering bugs, which is the biggest pain point for for new users) can be
made better.

I don't think Bugzilla is the best it could possibly be.

But, I do think there is the problem of known pain (Bugzilla) versus
the unknown pain that will come with learning a new system and then
adapting to its quirks and inadequacies.

I would rather use the energy to adapt Bugzilla to our needs.

 Proprietary software as well.

 Like I replied earlier, this is not a major concern.

I think you'll find quite a lot of resistance from me on this point.

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Bugmeister
Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla

2012-03-03 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org writes:

 One requirement I would like to place on a new system, should we go
 there, is that it support Wikimedia SUL in some form.  I realize that
 Bugzilla doesn't support this, but the point behind this requirement
 would be that if we're going to go through a painful migration,
 integration with our existing login system needs to be one of the
 benefits.  It might mean that this project come behind some form of
 OpenID provider support on the Wikimedia cluster.

Bugzilla does allow you to add in your own authentication system, so I
would say it supports it in some form.  But yes, SUL should be high on
the list.

Mark.

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[Wikitech-l] diff colors

2012-03-03 Thread Steven Walling
On Thursday, March 1, 2012, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 I've gone ahead and resolved bug #11374 after committing r112836.

 Screenshot of new diff styles:
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=10148

 Brandon and I talked about the colors and the way color-blind people will
 perceive them - this color set provides the best cross-cultural and
 accessible approach so far. The design also improves contrast issues and
 draw attention to the changed portions better than any previous versions.

 - Trevor

I *really* like this design. Much better than the current diff style, and
not just for the color blind. ;-) Accentuating changed phrases more
strongly and removing color where unnecessary makes it much easier to scan
a diff.

Just my 2 cents,

Steven
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Database dump of Bugzilla (John Du Hart)

2012-03-03 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
John Du Hart wrote:

 I really don't understand why we'd rather suffer than use a 
 superior proprietary product.

David Gerard pointed out:
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Values
 
 Duplicability down to the infrastructure is considered extremely
 important, or the free content isn't free. Open core fails this
 test.

Not to mention open source allows WMF and volunteers to fix bugs and 
add features themselves. Non-FOSS software also greatly decreases the 
chance of available volunteer expertise and help (unless the software 
happens to be extraordinarily popular (e.g. Windows, Word).

-- 
Greg Sabino Mullane g...@endpoint.com
End Point Corporation
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[Wikitech-l] PDF Download

2012-03-03 Thread Nasir Khan
Hi,

From the very beginning, there is a problem in the PDF Download tool and
that is it can not properly render the Bengali and some of the other Indic
languages (might be all Indic languages). A few bug was reported earlier
and the developers tried to solve the issues but unfortunate it was not
completely fixed.

Here i have a question that at this moment is there any developer of
developer group is working on this issue? if yes then i want to join with
him. But is no one is engaged with it then is is possible to apply GSoC for
this issue.

I am involved with the Wikimedia Bangladesh and within a short time we are
going to arrange outreach programs outside of the city area. For that
purpose the offline version will help us a lot. That is why i am
interested.

regards
nasir khan



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Re: [Wikitech-l] PDF Download

2012-03-03 Thread K. Peachey
CCing in the PP dev team, Since I don't know if any of them are on this list.

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Nasir Khan nasir8...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 From the very beginning, there is a problem in the PDF Download tool and
 that is it can not properly render the Bengali and some of the other Indic
 languages (might be all Indic languages). A few bug was reported earlier
 and the developers tried to solve the issues but unfortunate it was not
 completely fixed.

 Here i have a question that at this moment is there any developer of
 developer group is working on this issue? if yes then i want to join with
 him. But is no one is engaged with it then is is possible to apply GSoC for
 this issue.

 I am involved with the Wikimedia Bangladesh and within a short time we are
 going to arrange outreach programs outside of the city area. For that
 purpose the offline version will help us a lot. That is why i am
 interested.

 regards
 nasir khan



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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112931]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Peachey88 posted a comment on MediaWiki.r112931.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112931#c31776

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112931:

Fixed link to extension page; README fixed.

Peachey88's comment:

r112937 is the followup to this revision.

In future when do a revision to follow up based on another one (Eg: due to 
comments), please inculde the revision you are following on from in the commit 
summary, in the style of rXX somewhere in the message so they 
automatically link in CR.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r112932]: New comment added

2012-03-03 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Peachey88 posted a comment on MediaWiki.r112932.
URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112932#c31777

Commit summary for MediaWiki.r112932:

Initial revision of HidePrefix extension.

Peachey88's comment:

r112938 is the follow up for this revision.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] kkwiki needs help with JS and CSS

2012-03-03 Thread Liangent
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 [[User:Bolatbek]] has asked for help on kkwiki with styles and
 Javascript.  Since my ability to help in these areas is limited, I'm
 putting this out to wikitech-l:

 It looks like (some?) infoboxes are right-aligned now.  See, for
 example, [[kk:Қазақстан]]: http://hexm.de/g6

It works now after I did some cache purging actions.

 You can find reports of more problems on his talk page, especially this
 bit:  https://kk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=870529oldid=495994

 Thanks.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] PDF Download

2012-03-03 Thread Santhosh Thottingal
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Nasir Khan nasir8...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 From the very beginning, there is a problem in the PDF Download tool and
 that is it can not properly render the Bengali and some of the other Indic
 languages (might be all Indic languages). A few bug was reported earlier
 and the developers tried to solve the issues but unfortunate it was not
 completely fixed.

The PDF library used with the Collection extension of Mediawiki is
reportlab. Reportlab uses its own internal rendering engine and not
capable of handling complex scripts like Indic.  Such a rendering
engine will not scale to meet the requirements of hundreds of
scripts/languages that we support.

 Here i have a question that at this moment is there any developer of
 developer group is working on this issue? if yes then i want to join with
 him.

I had discussed this with Pediapress developers in the past.  I
started a project many months back to develop a general purpose PDF
rendering library for complex scripts and I had announced it here:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/002198.html
And I have an online version based on the code in development
http://silpa.org.in/Render. It can create PDFs from Bengali wiki pages
and possibly most of the scripts that we support. The text rendering
engine used is Pango. This is my petproject and 2-3 people joined me,
but recently it is inactive in development since we are not getting
free time.  The library require lot of work to reach a reasonably
usable state. Then it require good amount of effort to integrate with
collection extension.

The project is hosted at https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pypdflib
and available in Debian.


Thanks
Santhosh

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Re: [Wikitech-l] PDF Download

2012-03-03 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 03/03/2012 10:25 PM, Santhosh Thottingal wrote:
 Here i have a question that at this moment is there any developer of
 developer group is working on this issue? if yes then i want to join with
 him.
 
 I had discussed this with Pediapress developers in the past.  I
 started a project many months back to develop a general purpose PDF
 rendering library for complex scripts and I had announced it here:
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/002198.html
 And I have an online version based on the code in development
 http://silpa.org.in/Render. It can create PDFs from Bengali wiki pages
 and possibly most of the scripts that we support. The text rendering
 engine used is Pango. This is my petproject and 2-3 people joined me,
 but recently it is inactive in development since we are not getting
 free time.  The library require lot of work to reach a reasonably
 usable state. Then it require good amount of effort to integrate with
 collection extension.
 
 The project is hosted at https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pypdflib
 and available in Debian.
 
 
 Thanks
 Santhosh

Santhosh, it looks like Nasir might be interested in working on this as
a Google Summer of Code project:

 ... Is [it] possible to apply GSoC for this issue.

If this is the case, Santhosh, would you be interested in possibly
mentoring Nasir?

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Volunteer Development Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation

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