Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Grah, too early in the morning unselfishly of course !!!

DJ


> On 17 nov. 2015, at 08:10, Derk-Jan Hartman  
> wrote:
> 
> Awesome !!
> And once more a thank you to Henrik who selflessly maintained his 
> stats.grok.se for so many years !!!
> 
> DJ
> 
> 
>> On 17 nov. 2015, at 04:40, Rachel diCerbo  wrote:
>> 
>> This is fantastic news - thank you so much, Analytics, Services, Ops, and
>> the communities who supported/requested this!
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Dan Andreescu 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Data Enthusiasts,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In collaboration with the Services team, the analytics team wishes to
>>> announce a public Pageview API
>>> .
>>> For an example of what kind of UIs someone could build with it, check out
>>> this excellent demo 
>>> (code)
>>> 
>>> .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The API can tell you how many times a wiki article or project is viewed
>>> over a certain period.  You can break that down by views from web crawlers
>>> or humans, and by desktop, mobile site, or mobile app.  And you can find
>>> the 1000 most viewed articles
>>> 
>>> on any project, on any given day or month that we have data for.  We
>>> currently have data back through October and we will be able to go back to
>>> May 2015 when the loading jobs are all done.  For more information, take a
>>> look at the user docs
>>> .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After many requests from the community, we were really happy to finally
>>> make this our top priority and get it done.  Huge thanks to Gabriel, Marko,
>>> Petr, and Eric from Services, Alexandros and all of Ops really, Henrik for
>>> maintaining stats.grok, and, of course, the many community members who have
>>> been so patient with us all this time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Research team’s Article Recommender tool
>>>  already uses the API to rank pages and
>>> determine relative importance.  Wiki Education Foundation’s dashboard
>>>  is going to be using it to count how
>>> many times an article has been viewed since a student edited it.  And there
>>> are other grand plans for this data like “article finder”, which will find
>>> low-rated articles with a lot of pageviews; this can be used by editors
>>> looking for high-impact work.  Join the fun, we’re happy to help get you
>>> started and listen to your ideas.  Also, if you find bugs or want to
>>> suggest improvements, please create a task in Phabricator and tag it with
>>> #Analytics-Backlog
>>> .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So what’s next?  We can think of too many directions to go into, for
>>> pageview data and Wikimedia project data, in general.  We need to work with
>>> you to make a great plan for the next few quarters.  Please chime in here
>>>  with your needs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Team Analytics
>>> 
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>> 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Awesome !!
And once more a thank you to Henrik who selflessly maintained his stats.grok.se 
for so many years !!!

DJ


> On 17 nov. 2015, at 04:40, Rachel diCerbo  wrote:
> 
> This is fantastic news - thank you so much, Analytics, Services, Ops, and
> the communities who supported/requested this!
> 
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Dan Andreescu  >
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Data Enthusiasts,
>> 
>> 
>> In collaboration with the Services team, the analytics team wishes to
>> announce a public Pageview API
>> .
>> For an example of what kind of UIs someone could build with it, check out
>> this excellent demo 
>> (code)
>> 
>> .
>> 
>> 
>> The API can tell you how many times a wiki article or project is viewed
>> over a certain period.  You can break that down by views from web crawlers
>> or humans, and by desktop, mobile site, or mobile app.  And you can find
>> the 1000 most viewed articles
>> 
>> on any project, on any given day or month that we have data for.  We
>> currently have data back through October and we will be able to go back to
>> May 2015 when the loading jobs are all done.  For more information, take a
>> look at the user docs
>> .
>> 
>> 
>> After many requests from the community, we were really happy to finally
>> make this our top priority and get it done.  Huge thanks to Gabriel, Marko,
>> Petr, and Eric from Services, Alexandros and all of Ops really, Henrik for
>> maintaining stats.grok, and, of course, the many community members who have
>> been so patient with us all this time.
>> 
>> 
>> The Research team’s Article Recommender tool
>>  already uses the API to rank pages and
>> determine relative importance.  Wiki Education Foundation’s dashboard
>>  is going to be using it to count how
>> many times an article has been viewed since a student edited it.  And there
>> are other grand plans for this data like “article finder”, which will find
>> low-rated articles with a lot of pageviews; this can be used by editors
>> looking for high-impact work.  Join the fun, we’re happy to help get you
>> started and listen to your ideas.  Also, if you find bugs or want to
>> suggest improvements, please create a task in Phabricator and tag it with
>> #Analytics-Backlog
>> .
>> 
>> 
>> So what’s next?  We can think of too many directions to go into, for
>> pageview data and Wikimedia project data, in general.  We need to work with
>> you to make a great plan for the next few quarters.  Please chime in here
>>  with your needs.
>> 
>> 
>> Team Analytics
>> 
>> ___
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>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread Rachel diCerbo
This is fantastic news - thank you so much, Analytics, Services, Ops, and
the communities who supported/requested this!

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Dan Andreescu 
wrote:

> Dear Data Enthusiasts,
>
>
> In collaboration with the Services team, the analytics team wishes to
> announce a public Pageview API
> .
> For an example of what kind of UIs someone could build with it, check out
> this excellent demo 
> (code)
> 
> .
>
>
> The API can tell you how many times a wiki article or project is viewed
> over a certain period.  You can break that down by views from web crawlers
> or humans, and by desktop, mobile site, or mobile app.  And you can find
> the 1000 most viewed articles
> 
> on any project, on any given day or month that we have data for.  We
> currently have data back through October and we will be able to go back to
> May 2015 when the loading jobs are all done.  For more information, take a
> look at the user docs
> .
>
>
> After many requests from the community, we were really happy to finally
> make this our top priority and get it done.  Huge thanks to Gabriel, Marko,
> Petr, and Eric from Services, Alexandros and all of Ops really, Henrik for
> maintaining stats.grok, and, of course, the many community members who have
> been so patient with us all this time.
>
>
> The Research team’s Article Recommender tool
>  already uses the API to rank pages and
> determine relative importance.  Wiki Education Foundation’s dashboard
>  is going to be using it to count how
> many times an article has been viewed since a student edited it.  And there
> are other grand plans for this data like “article finder”, which will find
> low-rated articles with a lot of pageviews; this can be used by editors
> looking for high-impact work.  Join the fun, we’re happy to help get you
> started and listen to your ideas.  Also, if you find bugs or want to
> suggest improvements, please create a task in Phabricator and tag it with
> #Analytics-Backlog
> .
>
>
> So what’s next?  We can think of too many directions to go into, for
> pageview data and Wikimedia project data, in general.  We need to work with
> you to make a great plan for the next few quarters.  Please chime in here
>  with your needs.
>
>
> Team Analytics
>
> ___
> Analytics mailing list
> analyt...@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
>
>


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Design and development principles

2015-11-16 Thread Rachel diCerbo
Thank you for this, Keegan - I'm looking forward to how this is iterated.
It looks to be going well so far!




On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Keegan Peterzell 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Please note that what I'm about to talk about is informative to how the
> Wikimedia Foundation develops MediaWiki software.
>
> As you may have seen, engineering in the Wikimedia Foundation is working to
> define the software product development process to be used internally [0].
> As part of this, I'm working on developing a list of guiding principles for
> the software development process [1]. For examples of what this looks like
> for some other organizations, please see [2] and/or [3].
>
> There is an initial draft of principles up that resulted from the above,
> located on MediaWiki.org [4]. These are high-level principles that are
> meant to be overarching reminders of good practice for WMF engineering, a
> sort-of poster on the wall. Vagrity is intentional to an extent as a
> result. As noted on the wiki page, this list is being developed in spirit
> with Wikimedia movement [5] principles, the Wikimedia Foundation's Guiding
> Principles for operation [6, and a survey of some staff to find out what is
> important to them in the process [7].
>
> Comments, questions, thoughts, and whatnot are welcome on the talk page
> [8].
>
> 0. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_product_development_process
> 1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles
> 2. http://www.unicefstories.org/principles
> 3. https://www.gov.uk/design-principles
> 4. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles/Draft
> 5. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement
> 6.
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Wikimedia_Foundation_Guiding_Principles
> 7. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles/Survey
> <~ still to be filled in
> 8.
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Design_and_development_principles/Draft
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the previous=yes parameter?

2015-11-16 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It comes up as the search result on a few Google queries, e.g. here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%D7%92%27%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%99+%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9F&oq=%D7%92%27%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%99+%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9F&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.319j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8&hl=he



On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:21 PM Brian Wolff  wrote:

> What did you do to get to a page that had that parameter?
>
> Parameters can come from anywhere, so its hard to say. But I would say
> most likely its from javascript (either common.js or gadget) [OTOH:
> searching for insource:previous doesn't give me anything]. Most of the
> time, MediaWiki would convert that to a url with index.php in it.
>
> --bawolff
>
> On 11/16/15, Denny Vrandečić  wrote:
> > An example here:
> >
> >
> https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%92'%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%AA%D7%9F_%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A1?previous=yes
> >
> > I couldn't find a description of the "previous" parameter. Does someone
> > know (and how do I find this out by myself)?
> >
> > (I was looking here:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php but could
> not
> > find anything, so I assume this comes from some extension, but I do not
> > know how to figure that out)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-16 Thread Jon Robson
On 17 Nov 2015 12:28 a.m., "Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" 
wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Jon Robson  wrote:
>
> > Why not? Whats wrong with a fixed width centered site?
>
>
>  Because reading
> text like this
> is really annoying
> when you have
> gigantic amounts
> of wasted
> whitespace on
> either side.
> (And it's even
> worse if someone
> decides that
> contrast is bad
> too...)

If you're annoyed by this yoh should probably upgrade your browser to one
that support media queries.

Wikipedia is not that special that it cant follow the various examples on
the web, meet its mission by ensuring older browsers can tender our content
and focus its energy on the majority of our development time on the people
who can upgrade their browsers

If this point is lost on everyone I give up.

>
> (apologies to people using non-HTML mail readers, you may be missing the
> point of this reply-by-example)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Contributing to Wikimedia Foundation

2015-11-16 Thread Brian Wolff
The bug references ORACLE, so its probably maintenance/oracle/tables.sql

--bawolff

On 11/16/15, Bill Morrisson  wrote:
> Thanks to Andre and Johan for the welcoming message and the tips to start
> out in the wikimedia community.
> I have been taking my time to look at the different links Andre pointed me
> to. Looking at this particular link
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs, I looked at this
> particular bug https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116759 and I'm confused
> on which particular tables.sql file to modify for there are several
> versions of it.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Andre Klapper 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 22:22 +0100, Bill Morrisson wrote:
>> > I want to contribute to Wikimedia's opensource projects. I am a newbie
>> > in
>> > PHP and MySQL(just started learning the language 8 months ago) and had
>> > in
>> > mind in contributing to the organization as soon as I am comfortable in
>> the
>> > languages.
>> > I would like to contribute in PHP and looking forward to learn
>> > javascript
>> > on the go with other projects as well. I would love to hear from
>> wikimedia
>> > if there is anything I can do first.
>>
>> Great! Thank you for your interest!
>>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute is an overview of all
>> the many ways how to contribute to Wikimedia.
>> As you state that you are interested in hacking,
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub
>> provides a high-level overview of MediaWiki development for hackers.
>> It also links to
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
>> for starters. If you are looking for some "easy" bugs to work on,
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs
>> is also linked from that page. It offers some queries for bug reports
>> in Wikimedia's issue tracking system.
>>
>> Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions!
>>
>> Looking forward to your first patch contribution!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> andre
>> --
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>> http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the previous=yes parameter?

2015-11-16 Thread Brian Wolff
What did you do to get to a page that had that parameter?

Parameters can come from anywhere, so its hard to say. But I would say
most likely its from javascript (either common.js or gadget) [OTOH:
searching for insource:previous doesn't give me anything]. Most of the
time, MediaWiki would convert that to a url with index.php in it.

--bawolff

On 11/16/15, Denny Vrandečić  wrote:
> An example here:
>
> https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%92'%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%AA%D7%9F_%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A1?previous=yes
>
> I couldn't find a description of the "previous" parameter. Does someone
> know (and how do I find this out by myself)?
>
> (I was looking here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php but could not
> find anything, so I assume this comes from some extension, but I do not
> know how to figure that out)
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[Wikitech-l] Design and development principles

2015-11-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Hi all,

Please note that what I'm about to talk about is informative to how the
Wikimedia Foundation develops MediaWiki software.

As you may have seen, engineering in the Wikimedia Foundation is working to
define the software product development process to be used internally [0].
As part of this, I'm working on developing a list of guiding principles for
the software development process [1]. For examples of what this looks like
for some other organizations, please see [2] and/or [3].

There is an initial draft of principles up that resulted from the above,
located on MediaWiki.org [4]. These are high-level principles that are
meant to be overarching reminders of good practice for WMF engineering, a
sort-of poster on the wall. Vagrity is intentional to an extent as a
result. As noted on the wiki page, this list is being developed in spirit
with Wikimedia movement [5] principles, the Wikimedia Foundation's Guiding
Principles for operation [6, and a survey of some staff to find out what is
important to them in the process [7].

Comments, questions, thoughts, and whatnot are welcome on the talk page [8].

0. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_product_development_process
1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles
2. http://www.unicefstories.org/principles
3. https://www.gov.uk/design-principles
4. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles/Draft
5. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement
6.
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Wikimedia_Foundation_Guiding_Principles
7. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles/Survey
<~ still to be filled in
8.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Design_and_development_principles/Draft

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] IRC office hour this Thursday: reconnecting with the shared hosting community

2015-11-16 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Gilles,

Thanks for leading this!  My reading of your agenda leads me to believe
that this is intended as a "problem solving" meeting, as described in
User:RobLa-WMF/Meetings#Taxonomy.  To quote that article:

*Problem-solving* - Discuss a problem that we don’t know how to solve.
> "Conversation for possibility" as described by 1999 article
> 
>
>- Successful outcome: an idea or a reasonably complete list of ideas
>for how to solve the problem
>
>
>- Successful outcome: consensus on the priority about the importance
>of solving this problem (or consensus that it isn’t a problem after all)
>
>
>- Non-goal: a decision for how to solve the problem
>
>
Does that seem like an accurate characterization for what you have planned
on Thursday?  I recommend structuring the conversation (and figure out
action items) to achieve your imagined goal.

Rob

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Gilles Dubuc  wrote:

> As part of T113210 [1], which is a broader discussion on track for the
> developer summit, I am hosting an IRC office hour [2] this Thursday at
> 19:00 UTC.
>
> Since shared hosting is a broad topic, this session will focus
> specifically on brainstorming ways to reconnect with the shared hosting
> community. Shared hosting mediawiki users are currently underrepresented in
> the greater mediawiki community. We rarely run into them in phabricator, on
> gerrit or on the mailing lists. Which means that people often have to think
> on their behalf about their use cases and issues, instead of getting direct
> input.
>
> There must be practical ways to bring those thousands of mediawiki users
> back into the fold, so to speak. Hopefully we can come up with interesting
> ideas to achieve that.
>
> And if you happen to be a shared hosting user, by all means, please join
> this IRC office hour :)
>
> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
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[Wikitech-l] What's the previous=yes parameter?

2015-11-16 Thread Denny Vrandečić
An example here:

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%92'%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%AA%D7%9F_%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A1?previous=yes

I couldn't find a description of the "previous" parameter. Does someone
know (and how do I find this out by myself)?

(I was looking here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php but could not
find anything, so I assume this comes from some extension, but I do not
know how to figure that out)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread James Forrester
On 16 November 2015 at 13:50, Dan Andreescu 
wrote:

> Dear Data Enthusiasts,
>
>
> In collaboration with the Services team, the analytics team wishes to
> announce a public Pageview API
> .
> For an example of what kind of UIs someone could build with it, check out
> this excellent demo 
> (code)
> 
> .
>

​This is great to see. Thank you everyone for your work on this.​

​Yours,
-- 
James D. Forrester
Lead Product Manager, Editing
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

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[Wikitech-l] Pageview API

2015-11-16 Thread Dan Andreescu
Dear Data Enthusiasts,


In collaboration with the Services team, the analytics team wishes to
announce a public Pageview API
.
For an example of what kind of UIs someone could build with it, check out
this excellent demo  (code)

.


The API can tell you how many times a wiki article or project is viewed
over a certain period.  You can break that down by views from web crawlers
or humans, and by desktop, mobile site, or mobile app.  And you can find
the 1000 most viewed articles

on any project, on any given day or month that we have data for.  We
currently have data back through October and we will be able to go back to
May 2015 when the loading jobs are all done.  For more information, take a
look at the user docs
.


After many requests from the community, we were really happy to finally
make this our top priority and get it done.  Huge thanks to Gabriel, Marko,
Petr, and Eric from Services, Alexandros and all of Ops really, Henrik for
maintaining stats.grok, and, of course, the many community members who have
been so patient with us all this time.


The Research team’s Article Recommender tool 
already uses the API to rank pages and determine relative importance.  Wiki
Education Foundation’s dashboard  is going
to be using it to count how many times an article has been viewed since a
student edited it.  And there are other grand plans for this data like
“article finder”, which will find low-rated articles with a lot of
pageviews; this can be used by editors looking for high-impact work.  Join
the fun, we’re happy to help get you started and listen to your ideas.
Also, if you find bugs or want to suggest improvements, please create a
task in Phabricator and tag it with #Analytics-Backlog
.


So what’s next?  We can think of too many directions to go into, for
pageview data and Wikimedia project data, in general.  We need to work with
you to make a great plan for the next few quarters.  Please chime in here
 with your needs.


Team Analytics
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[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia accepted in Google Code-in 2015 - Bring your tasks!

2015-11-16 Thread Andre Klapper
Wikimedia is among the 14 organizations in Google Code-in (GCI) 2015!
In Dec & Jan, many young students will want to contribute to Wikimedia.

Will you mentor some tasks? It's easy and fun.

GCI is a great opportunity to let new contributors complete those small
little tasks on your To-Do list! Task areas are: Code, docs/training,
outreach/research, quality assurance, and user interface.

Do your docs on your wiki need some improvements?
Does your template or gadget code needs some updates?
Do you have small and self-contained bugs you'd love to get fixed?
Does your UI have small design issues?
Do your old bugs welcome some testing?

Then become a mentor and enjoy working with a contributor!

Add yourself to the mentor's table on the wiki page, get an invitation
email to register on the contest site, and create tasks (which would
take you 2-3h to complete, or less technical ~30min "beginner tasks")!
Explain the expectations and deliverables in the task. Once the contest
starts on Dec 07, be ready to answer and review contributions quickly. 
See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in_2015#Mentors.27_corner

Need task ideas? Check out the list of "easy" tasks in Phabricator:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs
lists Phabricator queries for your area!

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in_2015 has all information.
Or just ask and we'll be happy to help!

Thank you!
andre

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[Wikitech-l] WMF Survey: Please help us understand third-party use of Wikipedia's content

2015-11-16 Thread Sylvia Ventura
Dear Wikipedia data/API user,

The WMF’s Engineering, Product and Partnerships teams are conducting a
short survey to help us understand how organizations are pulling and using
data from our projects. This information will inform future features and
improvements to our data tools and APIs.

We would appreciate a few minutes of your time. The link to the Survey
below will take you to a Google Form - there is no need to sign up to fill
out the survey. The survey should take no more than 10 minutes.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1yUrHzyLABN419RCDbzepjoRWCbaWYV4wbtbKPa95C4o/viewform?usp=send_form

Thank you for your input and feedback!

Warm wishes,

Sylvia

PS-- Apologies for the cross posting, you might see this note on a couple
of other lists.


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[Wikitech-l] IRC office hour this Thursday: reconnecting with the shared hosting community

2015-11-16 Thread Gilles Dubuc
As part of T113210 [1], which is a broader discussion on track for the
developer summit, I am hosting an IRC office hour [2] this Thursday at
19:00 UTC.

Since shared hosting is a broad topic, this session will focus specifically
on brainstorming ways to reconnect with the shared hosting community.
Shared hosting mediawiki users are currently underrepresented in the
greater mediawiki community. We rarely run into them in phabricator, on
gerrit or on the mailing lists. Which means that people often have to think
on their behalf about their use cases and issues, instead of getting direct
input.

There must be practical ways to bring those thousands of mediawiki users
back into the fold, so to speak. Hopefully we can come up with interesting
ideas to achieve that.

And if you happen to be a shared hosting user, by all means, please join
this IRC office hour :)

[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Contributing to Wikimedia Foundation

2015-11-16 Thread Bill Morrisson
Thanks to Andre and Johan for the welcoming message and the tips to start
out in the wikimedia community.
I have been taking my time to look at the different links Andre pointed me
to. Looking at this particular link
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs, I looked at this
particular bug https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116759 and I'm confused
on which particular tables.sql file to modify for there are several
versions of it.


On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Andre Klapper 
wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 22:22 +0100, Bill Morrisson wrote:
> > I want to contribute to Wikimedia's opensource projects. I am a newbie in
> > PHP and MySQL(just started learning the language 8 months ago) and had in
> > mind in contributing to the organization as soon as I am comfortable in
> the
> > languages.
> > I would like to contribute in PHP and looking forward to learn javascript
> > on the go with other projects as well. I would love to hear from
> wikimedia
> > if there is anything I can do first.
>
> Great! Thank you for your interest!
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute is an overview of all
> the many ways how to contribute to Wikimedia.
> As you state that you are interested in hacking,
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub
> provides a high-level overview of MediaWiki development for hackers.
> It also links to
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
> for starters. If you are looking for some "easy" bugs to work on,
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs
> is also linked from that page. It offers some queries for bug reports
> in Wikimedia's issue tracking system.
>
> Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions!
>
> Looking forward to your first patch contribution!
>
> Cheers,
> andre
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> http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
>
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] IE 8 will go JavaScript-less starting January 2016

2015-11-16 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Jon Robson  wrote:

> Why not? Whats wrong with a fixed width centered site?


 Because reading
text like this
is really annoying
when you have
gigantic amounts
of wasted
whitespace on
either side.
(And it's even
worse if someone
decides that
contrast is bad
too...)

(apologies to people using non-HTML mail readers, you may be missing the
point of this reply-by-example)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

2015-11-16 Thread Daren Welsh
>
> "Yes, we lack efficient and effective ways of cross-listing conversations"


This is something we would love to address in our organization. Between
email, chat, multiple wiki discussion/Flow pages, and issue trackers (like
Phabricator/GitHub/GitLab), it's difficult to ensure everyone is included
in the conversation and to prevent repetition across multiple conversations.

One approach we use in our wikis at NASA is to tag articles as "Related to"
other articles. Then we can have a query on each page showing everything
that is tagged as "Related to {{PAGENAME}}". We use Semantic MediaWiki for
this, but I'm sure many other approaches could provide similar
functionality. If Flow (or even core MW) could allow for a section of a
page to be tagged as "Related to" other articles, you could somewhat
automate linking. This would probably help people discover related
conversations.

Another idea I'll throw out there is something we have submitted to a few
grant proposals, called Wiki Conversations [1]. Basically, a tool allowing
users to "CC" a wiki, so the content is then "wikified" and linked to
related articles. So conversations like this one could be linked to the
Flow and Echo discussion pages.

Daren

[1] https://youtu.be/VacHe2f1hWA



On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Yes, we lack efficient and effective ways of cross-listing conversations,
> which might be another use case for which the Collaboration team might
> engineer some solutions, possibly involving Echo and/or Flow. (:
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Rachel diCerbo 
> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if the most effective place to have and follow conversations
> about
> > a product are on that product's page, rather than Lila's Talk page or
> > WM-L.
> >
> > The main page to talk about Echo notifications overall is here:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo_(Notifications)
> >
> > A particular problem is that that page is Flowized and I know that many
> > users prefer original Talk pages - but the RfC page  allows for Talk page
> > format. It's here:
> >
> >
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Cross-wiki_notifications
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Brian Wolff  wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, November 15, 2015, Pine W  wrote:
> > > > The discussion about Flothat I referened is currently happening on
> > Lila's
> > > > talk page on Meta. Would you like to join the conversation there? The
> > > > discussion there might get more staff attention than Wikimedia-l. (I
> > hear
> > > a
> > > > number of staff avoid Wikimedia-l because they find the tone to be
> > > hostile
> > > > and/or because the volume is more than they can handle.)
> > >
> > > You really think the staff that dont follow wikimedia-l are going to
> > follow
> > > lila's talk page?
> > >
> > > --bawolff
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