[Wikitech-l] TemplateStyles coming to a wiki near you

[Gergo Tisza]

Hi all,

we'll enable TemplateStyles [1][2] tomorrow on mediawiki.org,
wikitech.wikimedia.org and some test wikis. (Today for those of you in UTC
or later time zones.)

TemplateStyles allows editors to add complex CSS to templates with the help
of a  tag. This makes template maintenance easier, lowers
the barrier of access (previously you had to be an admin to be able to add
new CSS) and empowers editors to create more user-, mobile- and
print-friendly templates.

For plans for rolling it out to content wikis see T168808 [3].

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateStyles
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:TemplateStyles
[3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168808
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Drop in mainpage pageviews?

[יגאל חיטרון]

I really do not remember where did I see this. I you are sure I'm wrong,
then I'm wrong and that's it.
Igal


2017-07-17 21:39 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :

> >It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong
> explanation.
>
> Sorry, not sure what you mean, can you link to any documentation we can
> maybe clarify? As the measure two metrics "Unique Devices" and "Pageviews"
> is completely different.
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, יגאל חיטרון 
> wrote:
>
> > It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong
> > explanation.
> > Igal
> >
> > 2017-07-17 20:52 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :
> >
> > > >I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> > > That had no effect on pageviews. I think you are probably mixing two
> > > different projects.
> > >
> > >
> > > As I mentioned pageview counting has not changed for more than 2 years.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > > Nuria
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:43 AM, יגאל חיטרון 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi. I do not remember when did this happen - this april or two years
> > ago.
> > > > I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> > > > Igal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2017-07-17 19:37 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :
> > > >
> > > > > > do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the
> way
> > > for
> > > > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the
> mobile
> > > web
> > > > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > > > >
> > > > > ... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more
> specific?
> > > We
> > > > > have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years
> > > > >
> > > > > There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and
> those
> > > get
> > > > > documented here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
> > > > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845
> > > > >
> > > > > Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes:
> > removal
> > > > of
> > > > > "bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due
> to
> > > > > having less bots.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון :
> > > > > > > Hello, Strainu.
> > > > > > > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll
> > > see,
> > > > > as I
> > > > > > > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized
> > > appears
> > > > in
> > > > > > > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > > > > > > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago
> > the
> > > > way
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the
> > mobile
> > > > web
> > > > > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> > > > > > announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Strainu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a
> > > > significant
> > > > > > >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April
> > this
> > > > > > >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to
> > justify
> > > > > > >> this drop?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Kezd%C5%91lap
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> > > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Main_Page
> > > > > > >> (slightly different pattern)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance
> > uk.wiki:
> > > > > > >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> > > > > > wikipedia.org=all-
> > > > > > >> 

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Drop in mainpage pageviews?

[Nuria Ruiz]

>It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong
explanation.

Sorry, not sure what you mean, can you link to any documentation we can
maybe clarify? As the measure two metrics "Unique Devices" and "Pageviews"
is completely different.

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, יגאל חיטרון 
wrote:

> It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong
> explanation.
> Igal
>
> 2017-07-17 20:52 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :
>
> > >I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> > That had no effect on pageviews. I think you are probably mixing two
> > different projects.
> >
> >
> > As I mentioned pageview counting has not changed for more than 2 years.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Nuria
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:43 AM, יגאל חיטרון 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi. I do not remember when did this happen - this april or two years
> ago.
> > > I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> > > Igal
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-07-17 19:37 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :
> > >
> > > > > do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way
> > for
> > > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile
> > web
> > > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > > >
> > > > ... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more specific?
> > We
> > > > have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years
> > > >
> > > > There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and those
> > get
> > > > documented here:
> > > >
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
> > > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845
> > > >
> > > > Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes:
> removal
> > > of
> > > > "bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due to
> > > > having less bots.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון :
> > > > > > Hello, Strainu.
> > > > > > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll
> > see,
> > > > as I
> > > > > > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized
> > appears
> > > in
> > > > > > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > > > > > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago
> the
> > > way
> > > > > for
> > > > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the
> mobile
> > > web
> > > > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> > > > > announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Strainu
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a
> > > significant
> > > > > >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April
> this
> > > > > >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to
> justify
> > > > > >> this drop?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Kezd%C5%91lap
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> > > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > > >> 01=2017-06=Main_Page
> > > > > >> (slightly different pattern)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance
> uk.wiki:
> > > > > >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> > > > > wikipedia.org=all-
> > > > > >> access=user=2016-01=2017-06=%D0%93%
> > > > > >> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
> > > > > >> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >>Strainu
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ___
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> > > > > >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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[Wikitech-l] More Detailed Browser Stats for Desktop Sites

[Nuria Ruiz]

Hello:


Please take a look at the new browser report with more detailed desktop
site data (all wikimedia projects agreggated):

https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#desktop-site-by-browser

Some highlights:

* Data is very stable over the last year

* Chrome in the lead with 45% of traffic, closely followed by IE (18%) and
FF (13%)

* The bulk of IE traffic is IE11 and IE7

* Edge shows up with 4% slowly catching up to Safari (5%)

* This data is still subject to fluctuations due to bot traffic not
identified as such.  We will be working on this next year.


Thanks,

Nuria
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Drop in mainpage pageviews?

[יגאל חיטרון]

It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong
explanation.
Igal

2017-07-17 20:52 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :

> >I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> That had no effect on pageviews. I think you are probably mixing two
> different projects.
>
>
> As I mentioned pageview counting has not changed for more than 2 years.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Nuria
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:43 AM, יגאל חיטרון 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi. I do not remember when did this happen - this april or two years ago.
> > I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> > Igal
> >
> >
> > 2017-07-17 19:37 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :
> >
> > > > do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way
> for
> > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile
> web
> > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > >
> > > ... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more specific?
> We
> > > have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years
> > >
> > > There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and those
> get
> > > documented here:
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log
> > >
> > >
> > > FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
> > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845
> > >
> > > Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes: removal
> > of
> > > "bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due to
> > > having less bots.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu  wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון :
> > > > > Hello, Strainu.
> > > > > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll
> see,
> > > as I
> > > > > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized
> appears
> > in
> > > > > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > > > > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the
> > way
> > > > for
> > > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile
> > web
> > > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> > > > announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
> > > >
> > > > Strainu
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a
> > significant
> > > > >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April this
> > > > >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to justify
> > > > >> this drop?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > >> 01=2017-06=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> > > > >>
> > > > >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > >> 01=2017-06=Kezd%C5%91lap
> > > > >>
> > > > >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > >> 01=2017-06=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> > > > >>
> > > > >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > >> 01=2017-06=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> > > > >>
> > > > >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > > >> 01=2017-06=Main_Page
> > > > >> (slightly different pattern)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance uk.wiki:
> > > > >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> > > > wikipedia.org=all-
> > > > >> access=user=2016-01=2017-06=%D0%93%
> > > > >> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
> > > > >> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>Strainu
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ___
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Drop in mainpage pageviews?

[Nuria Ruiz]

>I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
That had no effect on pageviews. I think you are probably mixing two
different projects.


As I mentioned pageview counting has not changed for more than 2 years.


Thanks,


Nuria

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:43 AM, יגאל חיטרון  wrote:

> Hi. I do not remember when did this happen - this april or two years ago.
> I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> Igal
>
>
> 2017-07-17 19:37 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :
>
> > > do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way for
> > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile web
> > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> >
> > ... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more specific? We
> > have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years
> >
> > There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and those get
> > documented here:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log
> >
> >
> > FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845
> >
> > Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes: removal
> of
> > "bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due to
> > having less bots.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu  wrote:
> >
> > > 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון :
> > > > Hello, Strainu.
> > > > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll see,
> > as I
> > > > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized appears
> in
> > > > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > > > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the
> way
> > > for
> > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile
> web
> > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > >
> > > Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> > > announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
> > >
> > > Strainu
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a
> significant
> > > >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April this
> > > >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to justify
> > > >> this drop?
> > > >>
> > > >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > >> 01=2017-06=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> > > >>
> > > >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > >> 01=2017-06=Kezd%C5%91lap
> > > >>
> > > >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > >> 01=2017-06=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> > > >>
> > > >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > >> 01=2017-06=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> > > >>
> > > >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> > > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > > >> 01=2017-06=Main_Page
> > > >> (slightly different pattern)
> > > >>
> > > >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance uk.wiki:
> > > >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> > > wikipedia.org=all-
> > > >> access=user=2016-01=2017-06=%D0%93%
> > > >> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
> > > >> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>Strainu
> > > >>
> > > >> ___
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Drop in mainpage pageviews?

[יגאל חיטרון]

Hi. I do not remember when did this happen - this april or two years ago.
I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
Igal


2017-07-17 19:37 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz :

> > do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way for
> > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile web
> > views. This can be the cause.
> > Igal (User IKhitron)
>
> ... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more specific? We
> have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years
>
> There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and those get
> documented here:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log
>
>
> FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845
>
> Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes: removal of
> "bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due to
> having less bots.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu  wrote:
>
> > 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון :
> > > Hello, Strainu.
> > > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll see,
> as I
> > > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized appears in
> > > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way
> > for
> > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile web
> > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> >
> > Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> > announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
> >
> > Strainu
> >
> > >
> > > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu"  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a significant
> > >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April this
> > >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to justify
> > >> this drop?
> > >>
> > >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > >> 01=2017-06=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> > >>
> > >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > >> 01=2017-06=Kezd%C5%91lap
> > >>
> > >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > >> 01=2017-06=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> > >>
> > >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > >> 01=2017-06=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> > >>
> > >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> > >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> > >> 01=2017-06=Main_Page
> > >> (slightly different pattern)
> > >>
> > >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance uk.wiki:
> > >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> > wikipedia.org=all-
> > >> access=user=2016-01=2017-06=%D0%93%
> > >> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
> > >> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>Strainu
> > >>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Drop in mainpage pageviews?

[Nuria Ruiz]

> do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way for
> pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile web
> views. This can be the cause.
> Igal (User IKhitron)

... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more specific? We
have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years

There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and those get
documented here:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log


FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845

Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes: removal of
"bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due to
having less bots.











On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu  wrote:

> 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון :
> > Hello, Strainu.
> > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll see, as I
> > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized appears in
> > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way
> for
> > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile web
> > views. This can be the cause.
> > Igal (User IKhitron)
>
> Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
>
> Strainu
>
> >
> > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu"  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a significant
> >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April this
> >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to justify
> >> this drop?
> >>
> >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> >> 01=2017-06=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> >>
> >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> >> 01=2017-06=Kezd%C5%91lap
> >>
> >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> >> 01=2017-06=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> >>
> >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> >> 01=2017-06=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> >>
> >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> >> wikipedia.org=all-access=user=2016-
> >> 01=2017-06=Main_Page
> >> (slightly different pattern)
> >>
> >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance uk.wiki:
> >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> wikipedia.org=all-
> >> access=user=2016-01=2017-06=%D0%93%
> >> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
> >> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>Strainu
> >>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018

[Subramanya Sastry]

Hi Nico,

If you don't mind, let us move this more bug/feature-specific discussion 
to Phabricator by filing bugs where appropriate. Or, we can have 
discussions on-wiki at 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:Linter. I'll copy 
your query to the talk page there and we can discuss it there.


Subbu.


On 07/17/2017 04:10 AM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Nicolas Vervelle 
wrote:



On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Subramanya Sastry 
wrote:


On 07/11/2017 05:13 AM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:

 - In the page dedicated to a category, there's a column telling if the
 problem is due to one template (and which one) or by several

templates, but
 I don't get this information in the REST API for Linter. Is it
possible to
 have it in the API result or should I deduce it myself where the
offset
 given by the API matches a call to a template?


Look for this in the template response.

|"templateInfo": { "multiPartTemplateBlock": true }|


Thanks ! I have updated WPCleaner to display the information about the
template (template name or multiple templates).


I've started adding a detection in WPCleaner (error #532) for the
missing-end-tag error reported by Linter (I'm starting with easy ones).

Is it normal that errrors inside a gallery tag are reported as being an
error in a "multiPartTemplateBlock" while it's directly inside the page
wikitext ?
Examples on frwiki : Manali
,
Zillis-Reischen

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018

[Nicolas Vervelle]

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Nicolas Vervelle 
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Subramanya Sastry 
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/11/2017 05:13 AM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
>>
>> - In the page dedicated to a category, there's a column telling if the
>>>
>> problem is due to one template (and which one) or by several
>>> templates, but
>>> I don't get this information in the REST API for Linter. Is it
>>> possible to
>>> have it in the API result or should I deduce it myself where the
>>> offset
>>> given by the API matches a call to a template?
>>>
>>
>> Look for this in the template response.
>>
>> |"templateInfo": { "multiPartTemplateBlock": true }|
>>
>
> Thanks ! I have updated WPCleaner to display the information about the
> template (template name or multiple templates).
>

I've started adding a detection in WPCleaner (error #532) for the
missing-end-tag error reported by Linter (I'm starting with easy ones).

Is it normal that errrors inside a gallery tag are reported as being an
error in a "multiPartTemplateBlock" while it's directly inside the page
wikitext ?
Examples on frwiki : Manali
,
Zillis-Reischen

...

Nico
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