Re: [Wikitech-l] Looking for WikiDev Summit main topics and volunteers
Hi Quim and Wikitechans, I'd like to volunteer especially re what I've recently emailed about in the email thread "[Wikitech-l] How to grow our technical community - Wikimedia Developer Summit," especially it's Wikimedia multi-lingual focus. Scott On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:06 AM, Quim Gil <q...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi Mathieu, let me retry to reply with a generic answer that might be > useful to other people thinking about proposing topics for the Summit. > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Mathieu Stumpf Guntz < > psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > > > Hi Quim and everyone on the list, > > > > One of my spare time project is to "translate" programming languages to > > Esperanto. I already achieved a Javascript translation within the > > Babylscript project <http://www.babylscript.com/>. Currently I'm working > > on a translation of Lua <https://github.com/psychoslave/lupa>. I chose > > Lua because I wish I was able to code in (somewhat) plain Esperanto when > > writing Scribunto modules on Esperanto Wikimedia projects. > > > > So, I would be happy to know opinions of other developers about such a > > project, and even more important, what steps would you see as necessary > > to make it possible. Would that be a project interesting for a Wikimedia > > Developer Summit? > > > > Let's start with the definition of the Wikimedia developer Summit: > > "The annual meeting to push the evolution of MediaWiki and other > technologies supporting the Wikimedia movement." > > Is your topic within scope? Then let's continue with the main topics > proposed for this edition: > > * A plan for the Community Wishlist 2016 top results > * Handling wiki content beyond plaintext > * A unified vision for editorial collaboration > * Building a sustainable user experience together > * Building on Wikimedia services: APIs and Developer Resources > * How to manage our technical debt > * Artificial Intelligence to build and navigate content > * How to grow our technical community > > Does your proposal fit in any of these main topics? If so, you are > especially encourage to submit a proposal for an activity. If not, you > still can propose an Unconference session. The interest raised by your > proposal (in the form of active participation and subscribers) will help > you and us organizers figure out the best time and place for this activity. > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_ > Summit/Call_for_participation#Selection_process > > -- > Quim Gil > Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - http://scottmacleod.com - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing Srishti Sethi, our new Developer Advocate
Welcome, Srishti! From the MIT Media Lab to Wikimedia Foundation! How great! It would be great to chat further about your work at the Media Lab with UnHangouts and at the WMF - and wiki CC WUaS as well; might you participate in the open ArchCom (Architecture Committee) meeting this afternoon from 2-3pm PT in Internet Relay Chat - #wikimedia-office ... https://webchat.freenode.net - as a start? I'd like to invite you, Srishti, (and all Wikitechans/Wikidatans/Wikimedians in the SF Bay Area) to the Wikidata 4th birthday party on Wednesday, October 26 from 12:30-1:30 at Red Door Coffee SF on 111 Minna Street - https://www.wikidata.org/ wiki/Wikidata:Fourth_Birthday/Events. (CC World University and School donated CC WUaS to CC Wikidata last autumn. WUaS is bringing the cake to this party. Wiki WUaS is accrediting on MIT OpenCourseWare in its 7 languages+ to create free CC "Harvards of the Web" with free CC Uni degrees in all countries' main languages. WUaS holds an open hive meeting space at AFSC / SFFM on 9th Street at Mission on M & W, 10-noon, not far from the Wikimedia Foundation at all). (Waiting here to hear if I made the short list for a tenure track MIT Media Lab junior faculty position. Will head back to Cambridge, MA, to give a talk and for interviews in late October / early November if I do.) Welcome to the WMF wiki world of SF and looking forward to meeting and talking with you in person. Namaste, Scott https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alangi Derick <alangider...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > You are highly welcome Srishti > Sethi. Hope you will enjoy working with the entire Wikimedia Foundation and > it's various departments. I wish you a nice stay in the Wikimedia > Foundation. Once again, you are welcome and I am hoping to work with you > > Cheers > Alangi Derick N > > On Oct 12, 2016 7:52 AM, "Quim Gil" <q...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > The Technical Collaboration team is very happy to introduce you to > Srishti > > Sethi <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)>, our new > > Developer Advocate. Srishti will lead our efforts to engage volunteer > > developers in Wikimedia software projects and to grow the Wikimedia > > technical community. In her first assignments, she will help promote > > Community Wishlist projects, the Wikimedia Developer Summit, and > > Wikimedia’s participation in Google Code-in. Srishti just relocated from > > Boston to San Francisco, and she will work at the Wikimedia Foundation > > office. > > > > Srishti originally hails from Rajasthan, India. She recently finished her > > Masters in Media Arts and Sciences from the MIT Media Lab, where she was > > exploring how online platforms for learning could be made more peer-led, > > engaging, participatory and accessible to diverse populations. At the > Media > > Lab, Srishti contributed to the design, development, and research of > > Unhangout (http://unhangout.media.mit.edu), a platform for running > > large-scale un-conference style events online. > > > > Before joining MIT, she was working as a software developer with a > startup > > organization in India. As an undergrad, she was involved with the open > > source community GNOME and its educational project GCompris. > > > > In her spare time, Srishti likes to play ping-pong, do long bike trips, > > take photographs and make masala chai for friends. :) > > > > Please join us in welcoming Srishti! > > > > -- > > Quim Gil > > Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - World University and School - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Crediting the work of our community members
Rob and Wikimedians, To further credit the work of Wikimedia community members, could we explore using the Douglas Adams' SQID example (which Markus shared with the Wikidata list recently ... [Wikidata] SQID evolved again: references http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q42 ) ... and build upon this incorporating the Wikipedia user pages (and your above examples) a Wikipedia crediting process anticipating/planning for all 11 billion people (an estimate from Swedish statistician Hans Rosling and many others) in all 8,000 languages. (CC World University and school is planning in parallel to be in all 8,000 languages and plan for all people on earth by 2100, as well as seek to build in Bitcoin and Blockchain in conjunction with developing best STEM CC OpenCourseWare centric law schools in all countries' main languages, even as WUaS develops CC university degrees accrediting on CC MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC). This would potentially lead to further planning for integrating Wikidata/Wikibase via SQID with Wikitech/Wikimedia/Wikipedia community members' contributions and in many languages. Cheers, Scott On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Rob Lanphier <ro...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Andre Klapper <aklap...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > Is there a Phabricator task [associated with MediaWiki CREDITS file > membership] so this topic does not get forgotten? > > Not that I'm aware of. It's easy to get lost looking through the > various attempts to objectively characterize contributions (he says, > just emerging from the fog of doing so himself). Here's a few places > a person could go: > * <https://korma.wmflabs.org/browser/scm.html> > * <https://www.openhub.net/p/mediawiki/contributors> > * <https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/graphs/contributors> > * <http://koti.kapsi.fi/~federico/crstats/core.txt> > > ...and that's hardly comprehensive. The "productivity of mediawiki > developers" thread from April[1] probably has some other sources I've > missed. If I were to spend more time on this, I would start looking > for the Phab tickets associated with the stats on Korma. > > I concur with Jon that we should endeavor to move to a more objective > (and ideally, more automated) mechanism for acknowledgement, so that > we don't have to rely on contributors confidently declaring that they > deserve acknowledgement. > > Rob > [1] > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/86127 > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] An early preview from WikiCite
Great, Dario! Scott On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Dario Taraborelli < dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hey all, > > Wikimedia Deutschland and the Wikimedia Foundation hosted the WikiCite > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016> event in Berlin last week, > bringing together a large group > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016#Participant_list> of > Wikidatans, Wikipedians, librarians, developers and researchers from all > over the world. > > The event built a lot of momentum around the definition of data models, > workflows and technology needed to better represent source and citation > data from Wikimedia projects, Wikidata in particular. > > While we're still drafting a human-readable report > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Report>, I thought I'd > share > a preview of the notes from the various workgroups, to give you a sense of > what we worked on and to let everyone join the discussion: > Main workgroups > Modeling bibliographic source metadata > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Group_1> > > Discuss and draft data models to represent different types of sources as > Wikidata items > Reference extraction and metadata lookup tools > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Group_2> > > Design or improve tools to extract identifiers and bibliographic data from > Wikipedia citation templates, look up and retrieve metadata > Representing citations and citation events > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Group_3> > > Discuss how to express the citation of a source in a Wikimedia artifact > (such as a Wikipedia article, a Wikidata statements etc.) and review > alternative ways to represent them > (Semi-)automated ways to add references to Wikidata statements > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Group_4> > > Improve tools for semi-automated statement and reference creation > (StrepHit, ContentMine) > Use cases for source-related queries > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Group_5> > > Identify use cases for SPARQL queries involving source metadata. Obtain a > small open licensed bibliographic and citation graph dataset to build a > proof-of-concept of the querying and visualization potential of source > metadata in Wikidata. > Additional workgroups > Wikidata as the central hub on license information on databases > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Group_6> > > Add license information to Wikidata to make Wikidata the central hub on > license information on databases > Using citations and bibliographic source metadata > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Group_7> > > Merge groups working on citation structure and source metadata models and > integrate their recommendations > Citoid-Wikidata integration > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016/Group_8> > > Extend Citoid to write source metadata into Wikidata > > We're opening up the wikicite-disc...@wikimedia.org mailing list to anyone > interested in interacting with the participants in the event (we encouraged > them to use the official wikidata list for anything of interest to the > broader community). Phabricator also has a dedicated tag > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikicite/> for related initiatives. > > The event was generously funded > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite_2016#Funding> by the Alfred P. > Sloan Foundation, the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation, and Crossref. > We'll be exploring the feasibility of a follow-up event in the next 6-12 > months to continue the work we started in Berlin and bring in more people > than we could host due to funding/capacity. > > Best, > > Dario > on behalf of the organizers > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Rob Lanphier appointed to the Architecture Committee
Congratulations, Rob,and Architecture Committee! (And thanks very much, Rob, for creating the #WorldUnivandSch IRC channel out of the Wikitech office hour in #wikimedia-office IRC channel the other day). Cheers, Scott On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 4:59 AM, Quim Gil <q...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Congratulations! I hope this helps pushing forward the idea of working > groups that Rob has been pushing (among others). > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > Woot! > > > > -- brion > > > > On Monday, April 25, 2016, Tim Starling <tstarl...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > At the previous meeting of the MediaWiki Architecture Committee (April > > > 20), the members present approved the appointment of Rob Lanphier to > > > the committee. > > > > > > Rob was the main instigator in the formation of the committee in 2014. > > > Lately he has been taking an active role, chairing the weekly meetings > > > and writing the meeting agenda. In recognition of the excellent work > > > he has been doing, and in the interests of transparency, we decided to > > > formalise his membership. > > > > > > -- Tim Starling > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > -- > Quim Gil > Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom RFC update #5
tor.wikimedia.org/T130528> (no shepherd). > > T122942 RFC: Support language variants in the REST API > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122942> (Gabriel): Discussing options > with Reading. > No activity in the last two weeks: > > T124504 Transition WikiDev '16 working areas into working groups > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124504> (RobLa) > > T66214 Use content hash based image / thumb URLs & define an official thumb > API <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214> (Brion) > > T113034 RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034> (Daniel) > > T128351 RFC: Notifications in core > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128351> (Brion) > > T122825 Service ownership and minimum maintenance requirements > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122825> (Gabriel) > > T54807: Identify and remove legacy preferences from MediaWiki core > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54807> (no shepherd) > > T88596 Improving extension management > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88596> (Daniel) > > T11 RFC: Introduce notion of DOM scopes in wikitext > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T11> (Tim) > > T120164 RFC: Institute "last call" period for MediaWiki RfCs > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120164> (WIP) > > T118517 RFC: Use for media > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118517> (Brion) > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom RFC update #4
core > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130528> (no shepherd) > > > > T122942 RFC: Support language variants in the REST API > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122942> (Gabriel) > > > > T124504 Transition WikiDev '16 working areas into working groups > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124504> (RobLa) > > > > T66214 Use content hash based image / thumb URLs & define an official > thumb > > API <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214> (Brion) > > > > T113034 RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034> (Daniel) > > > > T122825 Service ownership and minimum maintenance requirements > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122825> (Gabriel) > > > > T128351 RFC: Notifications in core > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128351> (Brion) > > > > T118517 RFC: Use for media > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118517> (Brion) > > > > T88596 Improving extension management > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88596> (Daniel) > > > > T11 RFC: Introduce notion of DOM scopes in wikitext > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T11> (Tim) > > > > T120164 RFC: Institute "last call" period for MediaWiki RfCs (WIP) > > > > > > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia in Pig Latin
Ryan, Rob and WikiTechans, How can we build such "Pig Latin" language innovation potential into a wiki UNIVERSAL TRANSLATOR - e.g. http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - and in all 7,097 + languages - in http://www.ethnologue.com/world - and also re 7943 entries+ in Glottolog for languages - http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language - but newly in MediaWiki WUaS - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/WUaS_En_Wiki/index.php?title=Languages - which you greatly helped to install on Jan 6, 2016, Ryan! Thank you! (This languages' page was formerly http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages) And how can we build this now also with Wikidata in 300 Wikipedia languages (and also building on Content Translation and Google Translate)? Thanks too to WMF's Rob Lanphier for beginning a new #WorldUnivandSch IRC channel in the Wikidata office hour last Wednesday! WUaS will plan to hold office hours at 3pm PT to begin (just after the Wednesday at 2pm PT Wikidata office hour in #wikimedia-office). Unfortunately this Wednesday I won't be able to attend because I'll be at a Stanford Law China Guiding Cases Project and re the China Law School at World University and School - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/China_Law_School_at_WUaS - planned in Mandarin and possibly other Chinese languages. CC MIT OCW is in Mandarin - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/ - and CC WUaS is developing with CC MIT OCW in 7 languages+. Rob, suggestions for good ways to develop CC WUaS MediaWiki / Wikidata in this #WorldUnivandSch IRC chat channel beyond the two questions I posted on Wednesday when you began this momentous channel, which questions people will also find here - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/03/cyclamen-questions-posed-to-wikimedia.html ? Would you be able please to keep an eye on this #WorldUnivandSch IRC chat channel at times and re Wikimedia developers? Thank you! Best, Scott On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:08 AM, C. Scott Ananian <canan...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a > language variant in enwiki. It would allow out SFO developers to > familiarize themselves with how language converter works, in a script they > can (mostly) read and understand. It also is *almost but not quite* > reversible (consider "ashway", which could correspond to both "wash" and > "ash"), another property it had in common with many real script > transliterations (often one script will have upper/lowercase distinctions > which are not written in the other script, for example), so it is a useful > test case when thinking about how visual editor (say) ought to work with > variants. > > So while you enjoy your igpay atinlay today, spare a thought or two for the > real internationalization issues it resembles. > --scott > On Apr 1, 2016 11:44 AM, "Ryan Kaldari" <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > Due to popular demand, I've implemented a patch to dynamically convert > all > > Wikipedia content into Pig Latin. Give it a try and let me know what you > > think: > > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280927/ > > > > Note that this implementation is language agnostic, but it works best > with > > Latin scripts. For those of you looking for support for Pig Latin as a > > language variant, try Liangent's patch instead: > > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72053/ > > > > Cheers, > > Kaldari > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement
; I don't see *anything* about energy consumption or environmental impact > > in > > > their statistics there. > > > > > > They do measure the relative balance of various energy sources, but > that > > > means little... We could probably be burning big lumps of coal and > have a > > > positive environmental impact if our relative energy consumption is > much > > > lower than competing sites might have been, but that isn't measured in > > any > > > way. > > > > > > They also measure some sort of "commitment" and "championship" of > > specific > > > energy sources, which sounds nice but doesn't in any way measure energy > > > usage or environmental impact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would very much like to change that and set up a page called > > > > "Environmental > > > > impact <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact>" on > > Meta. > > > I > > > > have already discussed the issue with a few people both from the > > > Wikimedia > > > > Foundation's management and from the Wikimedia community and have > > > received > > > > positive responses. > > > > > > > > > > Neat! > > > > > > -- brion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to further advance the project, I would like to learn more > > about > > > > how much energy Wikipedia's servers use. As far as I can tell, these > > > > figures are not public, but I believe they could very well be. > > > > > > > > Also, I am interested to learn how changing a server site's energy > > > sources > > > > can be carried out on the operations side since the United States > > energy > > > > sector hasn't been completely deregulated yet. > > > > > > > > So, thank you very much for any comments! Maybe there also is an even > > > > better forum to discuss these questions? > > > > > > > > Finally, if you would like to support my project, please consider > > adding > > > > your name to this list > > > > < > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact#Show_your_support > > > >. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Lukas Mezger / User:Gnom <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gnom> > > > > ___ > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > ___ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > -- > Katherine Maher > > Wikimedia Foundation > 149 New Montgomery Street > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 > +1 (415) 712 4873 > kma...@wikimedia.org > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom RFC update
Thanks for this helpful overview, Gabriel! Scott On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Gabriel Wicke <gwi...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi, > > please have a look at this week's summary of new and ongoing RFC > discussions. There are several new RFCs, and some existing ones are moving > close to a decision. No RFCs were decided finally this week. > > Because of the parallel Hackathon, no IRC discussion is scheduled for next > week. > > Gabriel > > New RFCs: > > T130663 WIP RFC: Reference API requirements and options > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130663> (Timo): API access and > component markup for references; focus on gathering use cases / > requirements. > > T122942 RFC: Support language variants in the REST API > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122942> (Gabriel): Different options > for supporting languange variant selection in the REST API. Needed for > languages like Chinese. > > T122825 Service Ownership and Maintenance > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122825> (Gabriel): Ownership and > minimum maintenance requirements for production services. Strongly driven > by unclear ownership of OCG (PDF renderer). > > T39902 RFC: Implement rendering of redlinks (in a post-processor?) > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T39902> (Gabriel): Solutions for > highlighting links to non-existing pages in Parsoid HTML. Main question is > preprocessing vs. separate metadata processed on client. > > T130528 RFC: PSR-6 Cache interface in Mediawiki core > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130528> (No shepherd): Exploring use > of > standard PHP cache interface. > > Today's IRC session: > > T124792 Service Locator for MediaWiki core > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124792> (Daniel): Introduce a service > locator (aka DI container) to allow code in mediaWiki core to make use of > the Dependency Injection (DI) and Service Locator (SL) patterns. > > The discussion showed general support. Several participants expressed a > desire to write more code with it before making a final call. Concrete > suggestions on areas would be welcome. Tentative working group forming, > aiming to discuss at Jerusalem Hackathon. > > Under discussion: > > T129435 RFC: drop support for running without mbstring > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129435> (Gabriel): Very focused RFC by > Max. Main question in discussion so far is whether polyfilling is worth it. > Max reaching out to mediawiki-l. > > T108655 Standardise on how to access/register JavaScript interfaces > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108655> (Roan): No update since last > week, I need to split this task but I haven’t had time to yet. Last week’s > update: > > Considering to split out contentious part (file-based require, or something > like it; to support embedding libraries), move forward on less > controversial part (basic module-name-based require infrastructure) > > T18691 RFC: Section headings should have a clickable anchor > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18691> (Timo): Under discussion with > Volker and Frontend Standards Group. Volker and team to collect different > benefits and concerns to determine whether this is generally a desirable > feature. And to explore other conceptually different solutions to the > underlying use case of “sharing a link to a section” (e.g. a better table > of contents, or live address bar). > > T124504 Transition WikiDev '16 working areas into working groups > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124504> (RobLa): No concrete progress; > MZMcBride advocates for organic growth. > > T128351 RfC: Notifications in core > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128351> (Brion): No movement last > week. > Needs clarification of interfaces & scope as follow-up from IRC meeting. > > T66214 Use content hash based image / thumb URLs & define an official thumb > API <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66214> (Brion): Clarified > requirements & priorities in last week's IRC discussion. Needs update to > reflect discussion. > > T118517 [RFC] Use for media > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118517> (Brion): Revisit soon. > > T88596 Improving extension management > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88596> (Daniel): Discussion is picking > up again, patch for review. > > T113034 RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034> (Daniel): Has been discussed > before, needs somebody to actually take this on. > > T11 [RFC] Introduce notion of DOM scopes in wikitext > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T11> (Tim): Active related > discussion and prototyp
Re: [Wikitech-l] Using assignees for RFC shepherd
Rob, MZMcBride and All, And what's a shepherd in relation to the facilitator of any specific committee (if this is relevant)? Can someone please circulate a summary of RUST decision-making again? (Is this relevant - https://oqi.wisc.edu/resourcelibrary/uploads/resources/Project_Prioritization_Guide_v_1.pdf ?) Thank you, Scott On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: > Rob Lanphier wrote: > >In the ArchCom meeting earlier today, Daniel, Timo, Tim and I discussed > >the way we handle RFC assignments in Phabricator. Previously, the RFC > >would frequently be assigned to person writing the RFC. As we try out > >the Rust model (per T123606 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123606>), > >and as we try to increase the speed by which RFCs move though the > >process, we thought it would make sense to also assign RFCs to shepherds > >on the ArchCom. > > > >We didn't discuss all of the implications of this in the meeting today, > >but we think this might help us scale our RFC triage process. What do > >you all think? > > I guess <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Governance> > tries to answer the question "what's a shepherd?" > > --- > * Nominate a shepherd from a (sub)team to guide an RFC through the process. > ** Makes sure that stakeholders are informed. > ** Guides the discussion. > ** Once the discussion plateaus or stalls & in coordination with the RFC >author(s), announces and widely publicizes a "Final Comment Period", >which is one week. > --- > > I'm still not really sure what any of this means. The biggest focus seems > to be on speed and throughput for the RFC process itself, when the focus > should actually be code quality, sustainability, and overall architecture. > > I found the recent RFC discussion about adding an expiration field to the > watchlist table to be very disappointing. My impression was that people > were more concerned with quickly pushing through a new feature (with > unknown user interface implications) than with solving the deeper > underlying problems we have with page lists. > > MZMcBride > > > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Using assignees for RFC shepherd
Sounds good, Rob, and All, Thanks for all of your good work on this! Scott On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Rob Lanphier <ro...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi folks, > > In the ArchCom meeting earlier today, Daniel, Timo, Tim and I discussed the > way we handle RFC assignments in Phabricator. Previously, the RFC would > frequently be assigned to person writing the RFC. As we try out the Rust > model (per T123606 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123606>), and as we > try to increase the speed by which RFCs move though the process, we thought > it would make sense to also assign RFCs to shepherds on the ArchCom. > > We didn't discuss all of the implications of this in the meeting today, but > we think this might help us scale our RFC triage process. What do you all > think? > > Rob > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in the RFC decision making process
Congratulations for these big "process" steps - great! Scott On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Gabriel Wicke <gwi...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > In the last weeks we have been exploring ways to improve our technical > consensus building and decision making process. I wrote a short RFC > [1] describing some issues, and proposed to adopt ideas from the Rust > community [2] to address them. The discussion on the task and in an > IRC meeting showed broad support for the proposals. > > In yesterday's architecture committee meeting, we decided to adopt > much of the Rust RFC decision making process [3] on a trial basis. > Concretely, this means: > > - We will nominate a member of the architecture committee as a > shepherd, guiding an active RFC through the process. Among other > things, the shepherd is responsible for informing all relevant > stakeholders of the ongoing discussion on the task. The shepherd might > also lead an IRC discussion on the RFC, which will be summarized on > the task. > > - Once the discussion on a task plateaus or stalls, the shepherd (in > coordination with the RFC author(s)) announces and widely publicizes a > "Final Comment Period", which is one week. > > - At the end of the "Final Comment Period", the architecture committee > decides based on the points made in the RFC discussion, and justifies > its decision based on the overall project principles and priorities. > If any new facts or aspects are surfaced in this discussion, a new > Final Comment Period needs to be started before making a decision. > > For now, we are holding off on the second part of the RFC, the > introduction of working groups. There is agreement that we need to > broaden the involvement and scale the process, but the details of how > are still under discussion. > > Gabriel > > [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Governance > [2]: > https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/blob/master/text/1068-rust-governance.md > [3]: > https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/blob/master/text/1068-rust-governance.md#decision-making > > _______ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom
Hi Rob, Matt and All, CC World University and School, potentially planning to develop with MediaWiki in all of Wikipedia's ~ 300 languages, plus the remaining 7,638 other ones, would consider being part of this Architecture Committee subgroup, or forked group. (CC WUaS is like CC Wikipedia/Wikidata with best STEM CC OCW such as CC MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC) and planning to develop accrediting CC universities' in all countries' main languages and wiki schools in all 7,938 languages). Thanks. Scott On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Rob Lanphier <ro...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Matthew Flaschen <mflasc...@wikimedia.org > > > wrote: > > > On 01/22/2016 05:03 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > >> > >> The reason I want the rename [in T124255 > >> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124255>]: ArchCom is the mechanism > >> we hope to ensure > > > > we build and deploy increasingly excellent software on the Wikimedia > >> production cluster in a consensus-oriented manner. MediaWiki is at the > >> center of this, but ArchCom's responsibility doesn't end with MediaWiki. > >> > > > > In my opinion, there needs to be a group leading development of MediaWiki > > itself, focusing on the product and the product roadmap (influenced by > who > > uses it). WMF is a critically important user of MW, but not the only > one. > > [...] I would suggest we might want them to be separate groups. The > group > > in charge of MW's roadmap would not have to care about things like major > > operations/puppet restructuring, while the WMF cluster group would. > > > > (Note, this is related to the discussions about MediaWiki Foundation, but > > doesn't need to wait on that). > > > > Logically, I think your long-term vision makes sense. Managing the > software we deploy to the WIkimedia cluster is a lot of work, and it > deserves focus. > > In the short-term, I believe a non-Wikimedia focused subgroup of ArchCom > may make sense. The declining MediaWiki use outside of Wikimedia has been > a longstanding problem for us, but not the biggest problem. ArchCom's > focus is (and should continue to be) the needs of Wikimedia. > > The reason why I'm delineating it as a subgroup is not a power grab, but an > essential step toward building the trust required for long term viability > of a MediaWiki(?) Foundation to be viable. The fact that the people > working on the "MediaWiki Foundation" are still(!) using the name > "MediaWiki" represents a failure of imagination among all of us. For > example, if MW Stake wants to be a viable upstream, there has to be a > stake/steak pun buried in there somewhere that could represent a great name > for a viable fork of MediaWiki. > > Yes, I used the word "fork". I believe Wikimedia Foundation would love it > if MediaWiki forked, and we were "forced" to switch to the fork. There are > other projects (e.g. gcc, KHTML/WebKit, Inkscape) that were helped by a > fork. WMF wouldn't be offended at all by an attempt to create a viable > fork, as we know that there is a limit to how much we work we should try to > fund off of our current donation model. If we should be pressuring anyone > to make non-Wikimedia use of MediaWiki viable, it shouldn't be WMF, someone > from Wikia should step up. :-P > > As it stands, Wikimedia Foundation is the only trusted upstream for the > MediaWiki codebase. I believe WMF should jealously guard the "MediaWiki" > trademark, if for no other reason than to force someone to come up with a > different name. "MediaWiki" and "Wikimedia" are too similar, and there are > not good reasons for us to license that trademark to anyone else. WMF > doesn't have a patent on the alphabet; come up with your own damn name ;-) > > Naming isn't the only issue for a viable fork, though. There are other > things that a viable fork would need for WMF to trust it: > >- An upstream repository. This could be anywhere (even Github!). We >would need to be able to trust that upstream would collaborate with us > to >solve our dealbreakers. >- Trusted architects with clear vision and leadership >- A governance structure that allows WMF to operate as a worthy peer > > We have healthy relationships with other upstreams (e.g. Phabricator, > Debian, Composer), and though we don't always agree with the choices of our > upstream, we strive to collaborate with respect, and we figure out what to > do if upstream makes a choice that creates a problem for us. > > So: forks welcome! Any takers? > > Rob > ___
Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom
Hi Rob, "@Robla-WMF : Can you please clarify the first sentence "We now MediaWiki-RfCs and RfC, which now greatly complicates being able to rename "mediawiki-rfcs" " ... in this https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124255 ? " Cheers, Scott On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Rob Lanphier <ro...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Those with a keen eye will notice that I filed T124255 > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124255>, which calls for renaming > #MediaWIki-RfCs in Phab to "#ArchCom-RfC". This would be a boring Phab > administrivia email if it was simply that. > > The reason I want the rename: ArchCom is the mechanism we hope to ensure > we build and deploy increasingly excellent software on the Wikimedia > production cluster in a consensus-oriented manner. MediaWiki is at the > center of this, but ArchCom's responsibility doesn't end with MediaWiki. > > T124255 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124255> is an odd place to > have > a more sweeping conversation about the scope of ArchCom, but it'll do for > now. Feel free to comment there or on this mailing list. > > Thanks > Rob > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Updates on WMF product leadership
Congratulations, Wes, Best, Scott On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Lila Tretikov <l...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > All, > > I want to share an update about the WMF’s product leadership. As of today, > Wes Moran has stepped into the role of Vice President of Product. In this > role, he’ll oversee the Foundation’s product across all audience verticals, > reporting to me. Please join me in welcoming Wes into this new role. > > Wes has more than 17 years of experience in product design and development, > with expertise in open source communities, user-centered design, > interaction design, user experience, user research and testing, product > management, and more. Since joining the Foundation, he led the > newly-created Discovery team to focus on user needs, transparency, and > accountability, and worked closely with our colleagues at Wikimedia > Deutschland on key projects such as Wikidata. He has been an invaluable > resource as we have continued to recruit for a Chief Technology Officer, > working with Terry and myself to cover critical leadership > responsibilities. > > With this change, Tomasz Finc, Katie Horn, Toby Negrin, and Trevor Parscal > will report to Wes. Tomasz will now lead the Discovery team. Tomasz has > been Director of Discovery and helped build and lead development of this > new team. He has served in many leadership capacities over his 7 years here > at the foundation and joined us from Amazon where he worked with the A9 > search team. Please join me in congratulating Wes and Tomasz. > > Lila > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President - 415 480 4577 - http://scottmacleod.com - Please donate to tax-exempt 501 (c) (3) - World University and School - via PayPal, or credit card, here - - http://worlduniversityandschool.org - or send checks to - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Modernizing our content platform: Kick-off meeting on Tuesday
Gabriel and Wikimedians, Sorry I missed this meeting, but thanks for these followup Wikitech resources. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99088 https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#drafts/14e0d31ef6f33ad7?projector=1 Regards, Scott On Jun 23, 2015 4:01 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Vibha, sorry I missed your reply before the meeting. The discussion was mostly technical an centered around two main areas: - content storage and dependency tracking / change propagation - page content representation, content composition and editing We collected and discussed a list of use cases and their respective challenges on an etherpad [1]. In the end, we resolved to follow up with more focused work around the two main themes. I'll summarize the discussion in a task per area and post them here. Gabriel [1]: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Content_platform On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Updated URLs, we're in R37 on air stream: http://youtu.be/RcE2kecrsIk Max of 15 users: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdub-Rs4mI_4UjTEzTgU7GKBkgjV5s0kXASoA9Tno4gJK34_Q On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Vibha Bamba vba...@wikimedia.org wrote: This sounds fairly dev centric with Front end/ UX implications. Will the discussion be fairly technical? Let us know if Design should attend. Vibha Bamba Senior Designer | WMF Design On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Reminder: This is today! When: *Tuesday, June 23rd, 13:00 - 14:30 PT* [3] Where: * *https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/wikimedia.org/contentplatform https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/wikimedia.org/contentplatform* * *room 37* in the office On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, a few of us have recently collected and roughly prioritized some open architectural questions [1]. The area that stood out as needing most urgent attention is adapting our content platform to long-term changes in the way users interact with our site [2]. People are using a wider range of devices, from feature phones to multi-core desktops. Many users are looking for short factoids and definitions, while others prefer to immerse themselves in detailed articles with rich multimedia content. MediaWiki is currently not very optimized to support such a diverse set of use cases. To address this, we see a need to improve our platform in the following areas: - Storage: To better separate data from presentation, we need the ability to store multiple bits of content and metadata associated with each revision. This storage needs to integrate well with edits, history views, and other features, and should be exposed via a high-performance API. - Change propagation: Edits to small bits of data need to be reliably and efficiently propagated to all content depending on it. The machinery needed to track dependencies should be easy to use. - Content composition and caching: Separate data gives us the freedom to render infoboxes, graphs or multimedia elements dynamically, depending on use case and client. For performance and flexibility, it would be desirable to assemble at least some of these renders as late as possible, at the edge or on the client. We don't expect to tackle all of this at once, but are starting to look into several areas. If you are interested in helping, then we would like to invite you to join us for a kick-off meeting: *When: Tuesday, June 23rd, 13:00 - 14:30 PT [3]* *Where: *A *hangout* link will be posted here before the meeting; room 37 in the office. If you can't attend, then please have a look at our current notes and let us know what you think [2]. Gabriel Wicke, Daniel Kinzler, Brion Vibber, Tim Starling, Roan Kattouw, Ori Livneh [1]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96903 [2]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99088 [3]: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=MediaWiki+content+platform+kick-offiso=20150623T13p1=224ah=1am=30 -- Gabriel Wicke Principal Engineer, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Engineering mailing list engineer...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/engineering ___ Engineering mailing list engineer...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/engineering -- Gabriel Wicke Principal Engineer, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikitech-l] Read the VisualEditor process review
Thanks, Greg, Joel and All, Best, Scott Best, Scott Hello everybody! For the past couple months, Joel Aufrecht and I have been working on a project to document and improve the VisualEditor team's processes; we just published a draft of our report https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/2015_Process_Review on mediawiki.org. If you're interested, please read it over and, of course, shout at us on the talk page if we wrote anything stupid. In addition to the team's significant strengths, we identified three major challenges we'd like to work on: - Consulting stakeholders like Analytics and Design Research often have trouble engaging with VE’s development. - The process for early-stage requirements and design decision-making is informal and incomplete. - The team has a high reporting load which may no longer be justified. Next week, we'll start to expand the report with some proposed solutions (suggestions welcome!) Have a good weekend! — Neil P. Quinn https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Neil_P._Quinn-WMF, product analyst Wikimedia Foundation +1 (202) 656 3457 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] VisualEditor on Wikipedia now faster with RESTBase
Gabrielle and All, Thanks for these great speedy innovations! Cheers, Scott On Mar 19, 2015 4:08 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Amazing. Even for larger articles, it seems to load quicker, or at least as quick, as the classic edit box. Superb job! On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:52 PM Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great job team On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello all, Earlier this morning, we made some good progress towards a faster VisualEditor experience by loading the HTML from https://rest.wikimedia.org/, the REST content API that entered beta production a bit over a week ago [1]. Preliminary data shows a drop of mean client HTML load times by close to 40% from about 1.9 seconds to 1.2 seconds. The reasons for this speed-up are primarily a reduction in HTML size by 30-40%, achieved by storing page metadata separately in RESTBase [2], and storing (rather than caching) the HTML of all Wikipedia articles, thus eliminating expensive cache misses. So far we have enabled this optimization on all Wikipedias. Other projects with VisualEditor support will follow over the next week. There are also a lot more optimizations in the pipeline. Eventually, we hope to completely eliminate the need to re-load the page for editing by using the same Parsoid-generated HTML for regular page views. While many people helped to make RESTBase and the content API a reality (see the original announcement [1]), I want to specially call out Marko Obrovac for doing much of the integration work with MediaWiki and the VisualEditor extension. I hope that you enjoy the newly faster VisualEditor experience as much as we do! Sincerely -- Gabriel Wicke Principal Software Engineer, Wikimedia Foundation [1]: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2015- March/081135.html [2]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RESTBase ___ Wmfall mailing list wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfall ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC meeting this week
Tim: Can I please ask a general question about AuthManager and ContentHandler, since I'm a little unfamiliar with them, and in terms of Wikipedia's 288 languages? How do these work inter-lingually? And in what ways are - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/AuthManager - and - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89733 - anticipating adding additional languages? Thanks. Scott On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: In the next RFC meeting we will discuss the following RFCs: * AuthManager https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/AuthManager * Allow ContentHandler to expose structured data to the search engine https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89733 The second one is not a proper RFC page on mediawiki.org, because Daniel Kinzler felt like being an anti-wiki rebel this week ;) The meeting will be on the IRC channel #wikimedia-office on chat.freenode.net at the following time: * UTC: Wednesday 21:00 * US PST: Wednesday 13:00 * Europe CET: Wednesday 22:00 * Australia AEDT: Thursday 08:00 -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Scott MacLeod http://scottmacleod.com http://worlduniversityandschool.org/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC meeting this week
Thanks! On Mar 4, 2015 12:33 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 03/04/2015 02:27 PM, Scott MacLeod wrote: Brad, Legoktm and All, Interesting and thanks. And how does ContentHandler - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89733 - Allow ContentHandler to expose structured data to the search engine work generally, and particularly vis-a-vis adding further languages to Wikipedia's 288, for example? What's the process for wiki-adding languages here hypothetically? Each page has a defined language. By default it is wgContLang (a global variable). However, ContentHandler has a getPageLanguage method ( https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/ 631186747a916454c71ee49c7d078c5faa1a009b/includes%2Fcontent% 2FContentHandler.php#L641) that allows customizing how this works. MediaWiki interfaces (menus, tabs, button text), etc. are also documented into many languages. Separately, the WMF process for adding new project languages (e.g. NewLanguage Wikipedia) begins at https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Requests_for_new_languages . Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC meeting this week
Brad, Legoktm and All, Interesting and thanks. And how does ContentHandler - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89733 - Allow ContentHandler to expose structured data to the search engine work generally, and particularly vis-a-vis adding further languages to Wikipedia's 288, for example? What's the process for wiki-adding languages here hypothetically? Thanks, Scott On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 03/04/2015 10:55 AM, Scott MacLeod wrote: Tim: Can I please ask a general question about AuthManager and ContentHandler, since I'm a little unfamiliar with them, and in terms of Wikipedia's 288 languages? How do these work inter-lingually? And in what ways are - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/AuthManager - and - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89733 - anticipating adding additional languages? Thanks. AuthManager is mainly an internal backend refactor that has nothing to do with language support. -- Legoktm ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Scott MacLeod http://scottmacleod.com http://worlduniversityandschool.org/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis
Kunal, Erik and All, So great! How will Linked Data be added to, and develop with, these interlingual Global User Pages - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalUserPage ? Cheers, Scott http://worlduniversityandschool.org/ http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages (planned for all 7,870 languages) On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:19 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hooray! This is so cool. /goes to edit her meta userpage... -- phoebe p.s. re: babel, my absolute favorite use is on Wikidata, where you can add babel templates to your userpage and then get the appropriate fields to add stuff in that language :) I love showing that to people who are getting started on Wikidata. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Global user pages have now been deployed to all public wikis for users with CentralAuth accounts. Documentation on the feature is available at mediawiki.org[1], and if you notice any bugs please file them in Phabricator[2]. Thanks to all the people who helped with the creation and deployment (incomplete, and in no particular order): Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki, Isarra, MZMcBride, Nemo, Quiddity, Aaron S, Matt F, James F, and everyone who helped with testing it while it was in beta. [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalUserPage [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=PHID-PROJ-j536clyie42uptgjkft7 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Scott MacLeod http://scottmacleod.com http://worlduniversityandschool.org/ This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Thoughts: stateless services with open servers?
Gabriel and Wikimedia developers, In what ways might you be anticipating developments with SemanticMediaWiki, and in what ways not? Scott On Jan 28, 2015 9:52 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Another possibility is to shell out to nodejs-based services as an alternative to running them as ongoing web services. I have a hard time imagining a situation where you can install node and everything else, but would not just apt-get install parsoid https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Setup or mathoid. VMs that can run MediaWiki with all bells whistles start at around $3 per month http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml these days, and are likely to become even cheaper. I believe we can make installing a fully-featured MediaWiki service system as simple as copypasting 2-3 lines to a shell, or even executing a remote installer script that runs those lines for you. Additionally, we can offer VM images derived from the same install process through Bitnami or others. To make this happen, we need to evaluate the options, make a decision and then follow through by making this our recommended and supported installation mechanism providing a solid upgrade path for existing content. I created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87774 as a high-level tracking bug for the task of evaluating and deciding on a distribution strategy targeted at VMs. Gabriel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Thoughts: stateless services with open servers?
Gabriel, Thanks ... yes, that's what I meant, and I wonder further if SemanticMediaWiki will become very central five or ten years out (might it even displace MediaWiki itself as we know it now)? Scott On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Scott, On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Scott MacLeod helia...@gmail.com wrote: Gabriel and Wikimedia developers, In what ways might you be anticipating developments with SemanticMediaWiki, and in what ways not? I definitely think that the mechanism needs to support the (optional) installation of SMW or other extensions. Just called this out in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87774. I'm not 100% sure if that's what you meant though, so please elaborate if you had something else in mind. Gabriel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Scott MacLeod http://scottmacleod.com http://worlduniversityandschool.org/ This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm leaving the Wikimedia Foundation
Farewell, Sumana, Sorry you're leaving WikiMedia, appreciating your good spirits, and looking forward to staying in communication. Best regards, Scott http://scottmacleod.com https://twitter.com/WorldUnivandSch http://worlduniversityandschool.org :'( Going to miss you Sumana! (Hopefully we can meet up in the city one day.) *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Sumana, Thanks for writing that up and the bits of helpful advice you gave me over the years. And like Micru, I have to agree with this part: And I'd like to [...] exclude destructive communication from my life (yes, there's some amount of burnout on toxic people and entitlement). This is such a tragic waste on many levels. It's very hard to make real progress towards an organizations goals and have fun in doing so, if the environment contains to much of this. Even if every single person involved is putting effort towards those goals. You are definitely not the first person to leave the WMF (in part) because of this. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Frontend standardization discussion continues Thursday
Thanks Sumana for facilitating the Skins meeting today ... Great to see a Wikipedia developers' conversation in action ... Friendly regards, Scott On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Trevor's rewritten https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Redo_skin_framework so please take a look before today's chat, which is in about 6 hours. Feel free to leave comments on the talk page. Sumana Harihareswara Senior Technical Writer Wikimedia Foundation On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-07-10 22:30 UTC this Thursday, 10 July, in #wikimedia-office on Freenode, Trevor Parscal discusses https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Redo_skin_framework which will have more details. This is a followup to the June 25th discussion - see the meeting page for links. 22:30 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=22min=30sec=0day=10month=07year=2014 is, unlike the last meeting, better for Australia China than for Europe: 12:30am Friday in Berlin 6:30pm in Boston 3:30pm in San Francisco 6:30am in Beijing 8:30am in Sydney Sumana Harihareswara Senior Technical Writer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we have any data in wikidata / wiktionary that could be used for mechanic translations?
If you Petr were going to take a rules' based approach to what you've outlined above, and use the already existing Wikidata interlinguality, which I think is based around the 'item with a label' (think a Wikipedia Encyclopedia article - is this correct?), and build on Wiktionary, could one 'reduce' Wikidata's intelinguality from an 'item' to a 'word' (and also co-anticipate voice, smartphones, and extensibility / scalability to all 7,106+ languages, for example, as well)? What else would be needed, and what would some of the initial challenges to beginning this way? Cheers, Scott (I write the above in the context of developing wiki CC MIT OCW-centric WUaS for free online university degrees, and which plans to be in all 7106+ languages http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages as schools, and develop a universal translator - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - as well). On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: On 05/22/2014 05:41 PM, Petr Bena wrote: I was looking for a free (possibly open source) provider of automatic translations for my open source application I am working on and quite had troubles finding some. Then I realized we have a project called wiktionary which could possibly (I was assuming it's open dictionary) help me here, but I was quite disappointed as I couldn't find any simple way to perform simple queries like: There are several open-source machine translation projects. They are either rule-based or statistics-based. One of the rule-based projects is Apertium. When you start from zero, building a rule-based system gives you a useful system quite fast, especially if the two languages are similar. A statistics-based system (such as Google Translate) requires enormous amounts of data to become useful. It's not something that you can start as a subproject within Wiktionary, not even as a separate WMF project. It's a very large task. One naive approach is to base a statistics-based machine translator (SMT) on the European Union's freely available parallel text corpus. When you try to translate Finnish terve (which means: hello!) into English in such a system, it will say health, since the same word also means health, and EU texts only talk about healthcare, never hello. -- Lars Aronsson (l...@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we have any data in wikidata / wiktionary that could be used for mechanic translations?
Great ... looks like MediaWiki Content translation and Wiktionary may provide another important approach to a possible Universal Translator ... :) Scott On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: this isn't about translation of content of current wikimedia projects, but more about creating a generic tool that anyone could use to translate anything, so not really what [[Content translation]] describes On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is currently being developed: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation It will provide all the tools needed to translate wiki articles, including dictionary lookup. The back-end service interfaces will be fairly generic will use open source tools like dictd and apertium, so might be useful for non-wiki projects. Yes, this statistics based system would be more like what I meant, but keep in mind that if it was open, so that anyone could contribute on that database, just like wikipedia is, it would probably collect enormous amount of data pretty quickly, just as wikipedia did. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: A statistics-based system (such as Google Translate) requires enormous amounts of data to become useful. It's not something that you can start as a subproject within Wiktionary, not even as a separate WMF project. It's a very large task. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Welcome Dmitry Brant as Software Developer to the Mobile App Team
Welcome, Dmitry! Scott On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Welcome Dmitry! I'm looking forward to working with you :D On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Welcome, Dmitry! Dan On Tuesday, 22 April 2014, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I am pleased to announce that Dmitry Brant joins WMF this week as a Software Engineer for the Mobile App Team! Dmitry will be working remotely from Cleveland, OH, where he has lived ever since immigrating from Moscow, Russia many years ago. He joins the Wikimedia Foundation coming from a previous life in speech recognition software for use in military robots, UGVs, and medical devices, and an even earlier life in software for controlling welding equipment and industrial robotic cells. Dmitry believes passionately in WMF's mission, and is excited to help enhance the Wikipedia user experience on mobile platforms. In his spare time he creates software for digital forensics and data recovery [1]. In his other spare time, he's an avid guitar player, blogger, and mushroom forager. Dmitry will work closely with Yuvi to further enhance the user experience for the upcoming native Wikipedia app. Please welcome Dmitry! [1] - http://diskdigger.org ___ Wmfall mailing list wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfall -- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager for Platform Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wmfall mailing list wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfall -- Arthur Richards Software Engineer, Mobile [[User:Awjrichards]] IRC: awjr +1-415-839-6885 x6687 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki on Google App Engine
I'd be interested in working on this. Scott On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Denny Vrandečić vrande...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone manage to get MediaWiki running on Google App Engine? I am a bit dense, it seems, and would appreciate a few pointers. Cheers, Denny ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Engineering Community Team changes
Congratulations, Quim and Sumana! :) Scott On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Frances Hocutt frances.hoc...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations to both of you! -Frances On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, I'd like to announce some changes in the Engineering Community Team[1]. The headlines: * Quim Gil is taking over as the new Engineering Community Manager, effective immediately * Sumana Harihareswara is stepping into a new role as Senior Technical Writer, also effective immediately The details: The Engineering Community Team (ECT) is made up of Andre Klapper, Guillaume Paumier, Quim Gil, and Sumana Harihareswara. We started ECT with Sumana leading the group back in 2012. The ECT team has flourished under Sumana's leadership. Our internship programs have scaled up pretty dramatically, all of the while increasing in quality of output and diversity of students. We've also gotten steadily better in engineering communications, with weekly engineering updates (translated even!) and great two way communication around software bugs and other site issues. She would be the first to point out that a lot of this was driven by members of the team, but she set up the conditions for many of the team's achievements (e.g. getting us involved in Outreach Program for Women, tirelessly recruiting and nurturing new volunteers, and working with the team to hammer out requirements for the new things they've rolled out). Sumana led the team until taking a three month sabbatical to attend Hacker School in New York starting in October of last year. In the interim, Quim Gil stepped in to lead ECT. After coming back from sabbatical, Sumana has decided that she would like to take on a role with more of a technical emphasis to utilize her newly honed skills. As it turned out, we also independently identified the need to hire a technical writer (even going so far as advertising an RFP while Sumana was out, though we weren't able to fill the role). Sumana's increased focus on technical work combined with her background as a professional writer made this a pretty obvious fit for the role. Her current project is organizing RFC review[2] and documenting the process, using the process for reviewing MediaWiki architectural changes as a means for documenting our architecture. Thankfully, Sumana hired a ready-made successor with Quim Gil, who was until now our Technical Contributor Coordinator. In the past couple of years, he overseen a big increase in the number of interns that get involved in our projects via Google Summer of Code and Outreach Program for Women. Quim has deep experience in engineering community management, and kept things working really well during Sumana's absence. With Sumana moving into a different role that then one vacated by Quim, Quim will hold onto many of his previous technical contributor coordination responsibilities. So, for things you used to contact Quim about, please still contact Quim. Congratulations Quim and Sumana on your new roles! Rob [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering_Community_Team [2] RFC review: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] English lessons today
Erika and Sumana, Is it ok to mention on this Wikimedia email list that I added your lessons to World University and School's English language wiki subject - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/English_language ? (WUaS is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW, with free, university degrees planned). With friendly regards, Scott On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Sorry for the late notice. Right now, an English tutor is at http://notes.wikimediadc.org/p/english-lessons helping people improve their English writing skills. If you have written an email to wikitech-l or a blog post or something, and you would like an English tutor to check that it's in correct English and give you tips to improve your writing for next time, you can put it on http://notes.wikimediadc.org/p/english-lessons and volunteer Erika Hanson will help you. My internet connection is terrible right now so I can't help out, but if you're having trouble connecting, you can contact Erika writer...@gmail.com personally. She's also interested in continuing this practice again in the next few months. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Moodle Wikiversity - new Moodle plugin interfaces with MediaWiki
Hi Sumana, Jan, Quim and Wikimedia Developers, I just wanted to let you know that: MIT OCW-centric, free World University and School, in English, is soft-launched ... http://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/2013/04/world-university-and-school-in-english.html... for free (C.C.), online, MIT-centric, university degrees ... and that WUaS has added and adds such Moodle Wikiversity - new Moodle plugin interfaces with MediaWiki ... resources ... to 'Educational Software' and http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Educational_Softwareand 'Courses and Schools' ... http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Courses . If you are a high school student actively interested in applying to free, online, Creative Commons' licensed, MIT OCW-centric World University and School in English, or know of one, this autumn 2013 - with complete applications due by January 1, 2014, at 12 pm Pacific Time - please email WUaS now at - worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com - with a brief letter just saying you're interested. Here's the link to the developing Admissions office at WUaS page - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Admissions_at_World_University_and_School . Best, Scott On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 04/18/2013 07:14 AM, Jan Luca wrote: Hallo Sumana, I have created a section for creating a Moodle-extension for MW: https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Mentorship_programs/** Possible_projects#MediaWiki-**Moodle_extensionhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#MediaWiki-Moodle_extension It would be nice if somebody else would help with item 1 because I'm not the best designer. There should be people with more experience than me. Ok, at least with you there is enough technical expertise to get the project going if an interested student shows up. Please create a related enhancement request in Bugzilla, under Mediawiki extensions Extension requests, and link it from the wiki entry. Thank you for contributing your skills mentoring newcomers! -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgilhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Translate extension design walkthrough
Hello Pau and the Language Engineering team, I just noticed your email, Pau, so missed your presentation. Greetings from the San Francisco Bay Area. While I haven't looked at the YouTube video record yet, I would like to inquire how to collaborate further with the Language Engineering team. I'm developing World University and School, which is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW, with free, online, C.C., MIT-centric, university degrees planned, in many languages, as well as wiki-schools for people-to-people teaching in all 7,413+ languages and 204+ countries. WUaS would like to develop an universal translator, building on Wikipedia's 285 languages, as well as Google Translate, etc. The beginning wiki subject page for this is here - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - and I'll add this video from yesterday as reference. May I add you to WUaS's sporadic, email list? Best regards, Scott On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Pau Giner pgi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, The YouTube link for the event is http://youtu.be/EQgaafveZ_U In a few minutes this will become into a live streaming that allow you to view the event live from any YouTube-capable device. Later, the same link will contain the recording of the session. Please. let me know if anyone is also interested in joining as an additional participant. thanks On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Pau Giner pgi...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Language Engineering team is in the process of redesigning the Translate extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate. The Translate extension turns MediaWiki into a localisation platform, and it is used in Meta-Wiki, mediawiki.org and a few other Wikimedia wikis, as well as other opensource projects, to make them available in multiple languages. We are planning to do a walkthrough for the latest revision of the designs tomorrow. Since the extension is used by many different projects and users, we want to make this meeting open to get feedback from anyone interested. So we welcome you to join us in the discussion: *When.* Wednesday 27 of February at 8:30 PST (San Francisco), 16:30 UTC (UK), 17:30 CET (most of Europe), and 22:00 IST (India). *What.* During the meeting we'll discuss information from our design specificationhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Translate-workflow-spec.pdf and the current implementation available at translatewiki.nethttp://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translatetux=1. Feel free to take a look to the docs or try the new UI before the event. *How* to participate. The event will be broadcasted using Google Hangouts On Air, so that it can be seen live or accessed later. We'll share the URL as the event approaches. The #mediawiki-i18n IRC channel will be used to get questions from the audience. If you are interested in entering the hangout for a face-to-face participation, you can ping me and I'll send an invite as long as there are free seats remaining. Pau -- Pau Giner Interaction Designer Wikimedia Foundation -- Pau Giner Interaction Designer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] TechOps welcomes Mike Wang...
Welcome, Mike! Scott http://scottmacleod.com On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome, Mike! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: SMWCon Fall 2012 Program
Thanks! Scott On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott and everyone! The conference is now are being broadcasted! Go to the Adobe connect page here: https://webconf.vc.dfn.de/smwcon/ - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Scott MacLeod helia...@gmail.com wrote: Markus, Thanks for this, and great! Will any of this be streamed in real time? Cheers, Scott On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: [Forwarded from semediawiki-user, apologies for cross-posting] (This is about the Semantic MediaWiki User Conference Fall 2012, see http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2012) Dear all, the program for the upcoming SMWCon in Cologne is becoming more and more stable [1]. Most talks should be at their almost final location now. There are quite a few highlights that are worth mentioning: * We have two exciting keynote talks by Denny Vrandecic (Wikimedia Germany e.V.) and Peter Haase (fluidOps): Denny will introduce Wikidata, the next big thing for Wikipedia, and the underlying software Wikibase. The co-operation of SMW and Wikidata will be an important topic of this SMWCon. Peter will introduce the Information Workbench, a semantic knowledge management solution by fluidOps. For the first time, SMWCon will include a number of talks on related systems that are not SMW. Other highlights in this category include OntoWiki, BlueSpice, SlideWiki, and the Drupal-based Planetary System. I am sure that it will be insightful and inspiring to exchange experiences with these projects. * We'll have a number of practical experience talks. I am particularly looking forward to the insights of Wikia Inc., presented by Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy). * Joel Natividad will join us live from NY to report about his award-winning sites and new smart city projects. * And of course there will be plenty of updates on SMW and its old and new extensions, including a number of presentations about using SMW in completely new ways. The tutorial day will leave more space for discussions and practical work, especially to discuss problems and ideas with the developers (as usual, we will have a very high concentration of those). As a special non-semantic tutorial, Yury Katkov will share his first-hand experience in fighting spam on semanticweb.org and semantic-mediawiki.org, a topic that concerns many public SMW sites. Cheers, Markus [1] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2012/Agenda ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: SMWCon Fall 2012 Program
Thanks, Yury! Scott On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott! We will do our best to organize the live stream but at the moment there is no guarantee. In any case, we will record the video from the conference and make it available for everyone after the conference. - Yury Katkov On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Scott MacLeod helia...@gmail.com wrote: Markus, Thanks for this, and great! Will any of this be streamed in real time? Cheers, Scott On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: [Forwarded from semediawiki-user, apologies for cross-posting] (This is about the Semantic MediaWiki User Conference Fall 2012, see http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2012) Dear all, the program for the upcoming SMWCon in Cologne is becoming more and more stable [1]. Most talks should be at their almost final location now. There are quite a few highlights that are worth mentioning: * We have two exciting keynote talks by Denny Vrandecic (Wikimedia Germany e.V.) and Peter Haase (fluidOps): Denny will introduce Wikidata, the next big thing for Wikipedia, and the underlying software Wikibase. The co-operation of SMW and Wikidata will be an important topic of this SMWCon. Peter will introduce the Information Workbench, a semantic knowledge management solution by fluidOps. For the first time, SMWCon will include a number of talks on related systems that are not SMW. Other highlights in this category include OntoWiki, BlueSpice, SlideWiki, and the Drupal-based Planetary System. I am sure that it will be insightful and inspiring to exchange experiences with these projects. * We'll have a number of practical experience talks. I am particularly looking forward to the insights of Wikia Inc., presented by Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy). * Joel Natividad will join us live from NY to report about his award-winning sites and new smart city projects. * And of course there will be plenty of updates on SMW and its old and new extensions, including a number of presentations about using SMW in completely new ways. The tutorial day will leave more space for discussions and practical work, especially to discuss problems and ideas with the developers (as usual, we will have a very high concentration of those). As a special non-semantic tutorial, Yury Katkov will share his first-hand experience in fighting spam on semanticweb.org and semantic-mediawiki.org, a topic that concerns many public SMW sites. Cheers, Markus [1] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2012/Agenda ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: SMWCon Fall 2012 Program
Markus, Thanks for this, and great! Will any of this be streamed in real time? Cheers, Scott On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: [Forwarded from semediawiki-user, apologies for cross-posting] (This is about the Semantic MediaWiki User Conference Fall 2012, see http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2012) Dear all, the program for the upcoming SMWCon in Cologne is becoming more and more stable [1]. Most talks should be at their almost final location now. There are quite a few highlights that are worth mentioning: * We have two exciting keynote talks by Denny Vrandecic (Wikimedia Germany e.V.) and Peter Haase (fluidOps): Denny will introduce Wikidata, the next big thing for Wikipedia, and the underlying software Wikibase. The co-operation of SMW and Wikidata will be an important topic of this SMWCon. Peter will introduce the Information Workbench, a semantic knowledge management solution by fluidOps. For the first time, SMWCon will include a number of talks on related systems that are not SMW. Other highlights in this category include OntoWiki, BlueSpice, SlideWiki, and the Drupal-based Planetary System. I am sure that it will be insightful and inspiring to exchange experiences with these projects. * We'll have a number of practical experience talks. I am particularly looking forward to the insights of Wikia Inc., presented by Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy). * Joel Natividad will join us live from NY to report about his award-winning sites and new smart city projects. * And of course there will be plenty of updates on SMW and its old and new extensions, including a number of presentations about using SMW in completely new ways. The tutorial day will leave more space for discussions and practical work, especially to discuss problems and ideas with the developers (as usual, we will have a very high concentration of those). As a special non-semantic tutorial, Yury Katkov will share his first-hand experience in fighting spam on semanticweb.org and semantic-mediawiki.org, a topic that concerns many public SMW sites. Cheers, Markus [1] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2012/Agenda ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Semediawiki-user] Colours of the sun (Was: [SMW-devel] Semantic mediawiki and map data)
Dear Markus, Yury, Semantic MediaWikians, and Wikitechians, Thanks for your feedback about Semantic mediawiki and map data coordinate-wise, in terms of colors: SMW does not have a special datatype for representing colours. You can encode wavelengths as numbers. Sound data is not supported, nor is any such support planned right now. (Markus K.) In thinking through broadly, and planning for, for example, how both modeling a virtual classroom (e.g. a chemistry classroom, in something like an interactive, movie-realistic OpenSim or WoW) as well as a virtual universe might work, coordinate-wise for color and sound, vis-a-vis World University and School, as well as with Wikidata and Wikibase, I'm curious about a number of coordinate-related questions, particularly cross-language-wise, in Semantic Mediawiki's annotating semantic data within wiki pages, thus turning a wiki that incorporates the extension into a semantic wiki (from Wikipedia) for the future. For example, will Google Translate in Android, for example, be able to articulate code-wise with 1) Semantic Mediawiki, and 2) Wikidata and Wikibase, say, ten years in the future, for color as well as sound translation, for an universal translator (http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator), for example, when viewing Monet's sunrise - http://www.med.yale.edu/neurobio/mccormick/fill_in_seminar/Slide2.JPG - in the Sunhala language (from Sri Lanka) and asking questions of the painting, or adding a Semanticwiki annotation (say, between the Sinhala language and the Hungarian language, in text or voice), or, further, even listening to the sounds of, while watching its colors change, of the sun (presuming this generates sound) 92 million miles away, and annotating this, at some point in the future. Even though Semantic Mediawiki has no plans to support sound, if Wikidata and Wikibase have plans to support sound files (or don't), say, to wiki edit about the colors of the sun, or Monet's painting, via coordinates, is there a way for World University and School, as we grow (here's WUaS's Computational Linguistics' wiki subject, with a number of MIT OCW courses to begin, for example), to build on Semantic Mediawiki, Wikidata and Wikibase, but particularly Wikidata, for sound? What URL might point me to Semantic Mediawiki, Wikidata and Wikibase's plans, but particularly Wikidata's, for mapping coordinate and sound development? Coding for sound support seems possibly very valuable in the development of Semantic Mediawiki, Wikidata and Wikibase, for the future, in addition to developing sophisticated coordinates for, for example, mapping the sun as the internet itself develops, but the Semantic Mediawiki and Wikidata projects are immense as they are, so I'm glad you're focusing them so knowledgeably and skillfully. Thanks and cheers, Scott http://scottmacleod.com http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Scott, I would recommend you to encode the color as RGB\CMYX coordinates and connect it to the widget that can represent color based on its RGB coordinates. - Yury Katkov On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: Dear Scott, SMW does not have a special datatype for representing colours. You can encode wavelengths as numbers. Sound data is not supported, nor is any such support planned right now. Markus On 18/09/12 20:55, Scott MacLeod wrote: Markus and Semantic MediaWikians, Thinking broadly, is there a way to map to, for example, a specific color/hue in a specific painting, and even changing-colors in a kaleidoscopic exhibit, in a specific museum, in a hypothetical all-museums-in-all-languages' Museum (see World University and School beginning Museums' wiki Subject page - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Museums - for free, Creative Commons' content)? Or, similarly, to map to a specific color in the sun, 92 million miles away (http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Astronomy)? Might it be fruitful, similarly, in Semantic MediaWiki to be able to map to sound with coordinates ... for example in the Music School at WUaS - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University_Music_School ... or to a Symphonic production - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Symphony_Orchestra_at_World_University_and_School ? Is any of this, or related, possible, planned for, or sensible? Scott On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Kim Eik k...@heldig.org wrote: I seem to have isolated the issue to the method getProperyValues in the class SqlStubSemanticData. Here it seems that there is some kind of mixup going on when i have defined a container to hold coordinates. According to the code it seems that it tries to fetch a given array entry with the key of the property in mStubPropVals. So if i have defined the property
Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC office hours with the Localisation team 2012-09-19 16:30 UTC
Hi Srikanth I'd like to participate in this meeting but am new to my IRC reader (Colloquy) ... hope to chat with all of you soon. Cheers Scott http://scottmacleod.com On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan (WMF) slakshma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan (WMF) slakshma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello everyone, You're invited to the IRC office hours with the Localisation team[1] at the Wikimedia Foundation. Date: 2012-09-19 Time: 16.30 UTC Venue: #wikimedia-office Agenda: 1. Project Milkshake update. 2. Language teams and tracking i18n metrics. 3. Q A Reminder, This starts in 15 minutes! -- Srikanth L Wikimedia Localisation Team ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata
Wikitechians, It's exciting that the Hungarian Wikipedia folks will be first to deploy in Wikidata, and the Italian Wikipedia people may be the 2nd! What's the deployment plan, for languages 10 through 285 (number of Wikipedia languages) through 7,358 (per The Ethnologue), particularly in terms of developing community email lists (graduate students?) Is there a Meta Wiki deployment page for all languages, paralleling this - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Deployment? What's the current state of email lists / wiki pages for all of Wikipedia's 285 language communities? (Wikipedia is now in 285 languages, as of August 2012 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Wikipedia). In this deployment process, would a 7,358 language-deep, universal translator, or security questions, in TOR, for example, as part of Wikipedia, influence deployment in any heretofore unforeseen ways? World University and School is planning for all 3000-8000 languages, each as a wiki page to begin: http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages. WUaS is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW, with free, online degrees planned. World University and School also plans to deploy in Wikidata, and in all 3,000-8,000 languages, each a wiki, subject page / school, to begin. WUaS bases this range on The Ethnologue - http://www.ethnologue.com/ - which now says they have 6,909 languages, whereas Wikipedia says they have 7,358 languages - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnologue. WUaS also plans to facilitate the development of an universal translator - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - building on Google Translate and others. So many languages, and as wikis, is wondrous ... :) Hungarian and Italian Wikipedia rock! Cheers, Scott / Aphilo On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: Result: after some explanations we have 26 supporters in addition to 3 initiators/starters, and no opposers. (22 of them in the first 24 hours.) As I wrote earlier, this is an enthusiastic community. So huwiki is looking forward to test Wikidata. :-) Let's do it! That is really great news. Thank you! I'll keep you posted as soon as we have more news about the next steps and dates. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata
Wikidatans, Is there a possibility that we could also include German as a third language here for deployment testing? Not only are many Wikipedians on this list familiar with the German Wikipedia and are German speakers (for a sizable development community) but in beginning to develop World University and School's (like Wikipedia with MIT OCW) second language (WUaS is planning for all 3,000-8,000 languages and an universal translator - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - building on Google Translate +), I know German, and German open educational resources will be significantly sizable in a way I can read, and eventually aggregate. Is this already happening, in addition to Hungarian (I'm fairly new on this email list)? World University and School is also interested in integrating, in this early phase, WUaS's wiki development with Wikipedias in its deployment on Wikidata, if at all possible. Cheers, Scott http://scottmacleod.com http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/14 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de Just to keep everyone updated: We have discussed this here at Wikimania together with a few of the admins of the Hungarian Wikipedia. Things are looking good and the next step is to take this to the Hungarian Wikipedia to figure out if the community is ok with this and then go for it if approved. The proposal has just been announced on village pump. Alea iacta est. -- Bináris ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata
Denny and Wikimedians, In what ways might World University and School (which is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW), with plans to be in all 3,000-8,000 languages, and 200 countries, each a school or beginning university as a wiki page, to begin, participate in this process? The English version presently has nearly 500 wiki pages. Here's WUaS's Subject Template, - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE - as one key to WUaS's structure. Cheers, Scott On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 7/10/12 3:14 PM, jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote: ...You say Keeping the control over the formatting in the client wiki seems desirable to me overlooks the fact that normal wiki rules-of-the-road apply within the wikidata environment also, where authors certainly should be able to exert control, likely even more so, over infobox content styling. My understanding is that normal wiki rules-of-the-road will not apply on WikiData, as the editing interface will be form-based, not wikitext-based. WikiData will not house any infoboxes, only the data that the Wikipedias will pull into their infoboxes (and elsewhere). Housing the infoboxes on WikiData would be a terrible idea for several reasons: * Every Wikipedia does infoboxes differently depending on the policies and conventions of that wiki (for example, on English Wikipedia we strongly discourage flag icons in infoboxes, while other wikis don't care). * Infoboxes are only 1 possible use of WikiData. Other possibilities: ** Setting the birth and death dates in the lead sentences of biographies ** Setting the coordinates displayed on geography articles ** Populating the interlanguage links (already planned) Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Adam Wight joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer
Welcome, Adam Wight! Scott On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello everyone, It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Adam Wight has joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a Fundraising Engineer. Before joining us, Adam was customizing open-source web services for non-profits at Giant Rabbit. This makes him the first Fundraising engineer to be familiar with CiviCRM **before** joining the team — in fact, he has contributed event registration workflow and other minor changes back to the project. :-) He also did work on the Atako Project (the first open-source Google Gadget directory), “Halfway Library” to share and review books, and “Prokaryote” a evolution/behavior patterns simulator used in university and high school classrooms. If you ever snuck into the Unix lab to get their workstations running SETI@home, you probably used his code (he wrote the X-windows implementation). He has recently contributed an Offline extension for Mediawiki, and he is helping with a distributed wiki project OneCommons. Welcome Adam! All very cool projects :) On the side, he’s involved with a number of education and agricultural projects, including being the programmer at the Multinational Exchange for Sustainable Agriculture and is a cofounder and worker at The Local food coop at UC Berkeley. He also is obsessed with blacksmithing (no, this is not a new coding process — I mean that he’s a blacksmith and has been a carpenter and housepainter). We should start having local foodie/Wikipedian dinners! Edit this eggplant? -- phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this email message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy/delete all copies of the transmittal. Thank you. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
